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00:20 BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel
00:21 asciilifeform Landgull: when nato dies its long-overdue death, cometh the bulldozer
00:22 Landgull Sure. But there are still plenty of parts of the world where the food supply comes from within 100 miles of the city.
00:24 asciilifeform Landgull: planning to live by gleaning ?
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00:25 decimation new zealand comes to mind
00:25 decimation it's full of socialist derps but pretty self-sufficient
00:26 BingoBoingo Landgull: Come to scenic southern illinois!
00:26 Landgull Well, you strike me as a pretty decent coder/developer, ascii. In any country that is an outsourcing location for devs, being able to develop and being a native English speaker makes you a valuable hire.
00:26 asciilifeform Landgull: i'd rather be boiled for soap
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00:26 asciilifeform than work as 'coder'
00:26 decimation Landgull: I think ascii's goal is to sleep ad libitum
00:26 Landgull I'm in Lviv, Ukraine right now. I can walk down to the market and buy a kilo of fresh strawberries for the local equivalent of $.50, and a bottle of vodka for $2.50
00:27 decimation can also catch a 7.62 round
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00:27 BingoBoingo <Landgull> Well, you strike me as a pretty decent coder/developer, ascii. In any country that is an outsourcing location for devs, being able to develop and being a native English speaker makes you a valuable hire. << Alf is in a more dangerous position. He is an excellent flenser and polisher. Intellectually uninteresting work will shave decades off of his life.
00:27 BingoBoingo <Landgull> I'm in Lviv, Ukraine right now. I can walk down to the market and buy a kilo of fresh strawberries for the local equivalent of $.50, and a bottle of vodka for $2.50 << Welcome to my back yard
00:28 Landgull Well, if you're smart enough to know how to allocate memory in C, you can find a way to earn $500 a month anywhere in the world.
00:28 asciilifeform Landgull: in a way that doesn't make you save up for a pistol to blow brains with?
00:28 decimation let us know when Putin the Great asks for german colonists to come back to odessa
00:28 asciilifeform if i were smart enough for this, would not be living in usa now.
00:28 Landgull Well, what do you do in the USA now? And Putin has no interest in Lviv.
00:29 asciilifeform Landgull: i must refer you to the logs. it is difficult to describe
00:30 Landgull Fair enough. All I know is that I'd plow fields to avoid going back to the US.
00:30 asciilifeform Landgull: presently i work on automation of reverse-engineering on x86. prior to that, as a reverse engineer. prior to that, high-performance computing for biotech, as sole programmer in entire outfit
00:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45206 @ 0.00032854 = 14.852 BTC [-] {2}
00:31 Landgull So, if you sold those skills freelance, for $100 an hour, you could work for 10 hours a month and live very comfortably in most parts of the world.
00:31 Landgull Most non-anglophone parts.
00:32 asciilifeform !s meatwot
00:32 assbot 11 results for 'meatwot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meatwot
00:32 asciilifeform Landgull: ^ must refer you to logs.
00:32 trinque !s variety speak
00:32 assbot 48 results for 'variety speak' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=variety+speak
00:32 decimation Landgull: I desire to work 0 hours per month for someone else
00:33 decimation neigh impossible in fiat world
00:33 Landgull Decimation: As do I. But that's much easier to achieve when your expenses are $500, not $5,000.
00:34 decimation sure, dollar pollution is high in the us, but that's where I'm stuck. like ascii, my wot is here
00:34 asciilifeform Landgull: one thing to be aware of is that logic analyzer still costs 500 in lvov. and electron microscope still costs 500000, just like in new york.
00:34 asciilifeform (plus a few tonnes' shipping)
00:35 decimation ^ that too
00:35 decimation electronics has been completely 'globalized'
00:35 Landgull Fair points as well. And I'm not suggesting Lviv as a specific destination, I'm here meeting the girlfriend's family - though it's really quite a nice city.
00:36 asciilifeform no just pointing out the limitations of 'move, shave some zeroes from your expenses'
00:36 asciilifeform it works for, e.g., rent
00:36 decimation and food to some extent
00:36 asciilifeform not so much for actually -fucking living- life
00:36 decimation that requires - actual city
00:37 Landgull I guess it depends on what pieces of life you consider living. I'm not arguing that it's easier to get out of the US, if it were easier it would be done.
00:37 asciilifeform it requires functioning industrial economy
00:37 decimation ascii you could probably buy a few acres of iowa for a few $k
00:37 asciilifeform decimation: and eat roots, berries ?
00:37 decimation heh yeah exactly
00:37 Landgull You can buy enough rental properties in Lviv to live indefinitely with indefinite free time for ~$100k USD.
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00:37 asciilifeform decimation: not to mention that tax is still payable in usd
00:37 asciilifeform and not roots, berries.
00:38 decimation indeed. then your only choice is to live under a stump like that one guy
00:38 asciilifeform Landgull: until the city is liberated and they shoot everyone who ever held u.s. passport
00:38 asciilifeform (rest assured there is a list)
00:38 BingoBoingo decimation> ascii you could probably buy a few acres of iowa for a few $k << Not really, Chicoms are buying Iowa like it is going out of style.
00:38 Landgull Ascii: No-one really hates Americans, unless you're the socks with sandals type.
00:38 asciilifeform Landgull: guess again.
00:38 decimation Landgull: read many books?
00:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this is the reason you can't buy so much as a square metre in, e.g., patagonia. that is, if you and i can afford it, ted turner can afford 1,000,000+ of it and at 1000x bid
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00:39 decimation !article 58
00:39 decimation !s article 58
00:39 assbot 3 results for 'article 58' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=article+58
00:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the only reason you and i even can afford food is that he doesn't need all of it
00:39 Landgull ...I'm telling you from having been to a number of places and talked to a number of people, I've yet to meet anyone who hates American people.
00:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed. We are limited to the border swamps
00:40 Landgull Plenty hate the American government.
00:40 decimation Landgull: the point is that when they want to throw you in the gulag, nicities like 'we liked americans' mean jack shit
00:41 Landgull ...except the only gulags that still exist are in the USA.
00:41 decimation heh
00:41 Landgull And North Korea.
00:41 Landgull But I'm not advocating trying to migrate to North Korea.
00:41 decimation russia and china have thier own versions
00:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14939 @ 0.0003375 = 5.0419 BTC [+] {3}
00:42 Landgull Most governments don't have the kind of resources to do US style insanity.
00:44 Landgull And most people in the world don't have the culture of violence that the US does.
00:44 asciilifeform Landgull: culture of bending over and quietly taking arse rape is an improvement ?
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00:45 Landgull Well, the Ukrainians have thrown more molotovs at their government than anyone else recently.
00:45 asciilifeform a healthy tradition of violence is quite possibly the only thing u.s. has left going for it.
00:45 Landgull And probably will again soon.
00:45 decimation lol ukrainians have done was usg wills
00:46 decimation !s nuland
00:46 assbot 14 results for 'nuland' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nuland
00:46 Landgull I know all about Nuland.
00:46 Landgull And the US corruption of the Maidan.
00:49 decimation asciilifeform: I bought one of those termteks, gonna see if it works
00:49 decimation I want a remote console for my server
00:49 asciilifeform decimation: consider posting a pic of the insides
00:49 decimation sure no problem
00:50 Landgull But seriously, it takes 10 minutes of talking to actual Ukrainians walking around here to see that they haven't bought USgov propaganda properly. As much as the information net wants you to believe it's the same everywhere, it isn't.
00:50 decimation they don't have to buy it for some army or other to show up to 'liberate' them
00:50 asciilifeform Landgull: there's a couplea million folks a few 100 km east of you who will have your head on a pike if you stick around.
00:50 asciilifeform don't imagine they won't.
00:50 decimation or encourage you to do your patriotic duty
00:51 Landgull Ascii: 1) I can buy a plane ticket somewhere else if a real invasion happened. 2) If the Russians came into the Ukrainian speaking part of Ukraine, they'd be fighting a massive guerrilla war...they're succeeding in Donetsk and Luhansk because the people there are Russians and have a Russian identity.
00:52 decimation the red army was famous for putting machine gunners behind the troops, for encouragement
00:52 asciilifeform Landgull: ask the older locals how the guerilla war worked out for them '45-'60
00:53 decimation or how it worked out for the anti-asad syrians
00:53 decimation or how it worked out for the anti-chinese vietnamese
00:53 asciilifeform and this notion that one can buy plane ticket during invasion...
00:53 * asciilifeform won't even comment on this
00:54 asciilifeform !s diamond train
00:54 assbot 0 results for 'diamond train' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=diamond+train
00:54 Landgull I'd mention that I'm out here doing what you claim to want to do.
00:54 decimation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Saigon#/media/File:Saigon-hubert-van-es.jpg
00:55 asciilifeform Landgull: then you have a catastrophic misconception of what i would like to do.
00:55 Landgull You don't want to get out of the US?
00:55 asciilifeform i want out of u.s. on -my- terms
00:55 asciilifeform and when i say 'out', i mean 'out'
00:55 asciilifeform and not living in a u.s. colony
00:55 asciilifeform which 100% of cis, and esp. west ua, is
00:55 asciilifeform just as new zealand is
00:55 asciilifeform or poland
00:56 decimation indeed, such a place probably does not exist
00:56 Landgull Before I came here, I would have said the same thing.
00:56 trinque it's going to have to be an underground-undersea base
00:56 Landgull And the government is owned by the US here, but the government here doesn't have any actual power.
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00:56 asciilifeform trinque: they exist but generally you gotta be ethnic
00:56 decimation trinque: undersea is laughably insecure
00:56 asciilifeform trinque: e.g., cn
00:56 Landgull That's the thing that's virtually impossible to understand while you're still in the US.
00:56 trinque decimation: note the hyphen, not a slash
00:56 trinque underground *and* undersea!
00:57 decimation heh
00:57 decimation you livin in a volcano?
00:57 trinque cover's blown
00:57 decimation Landgull: the thing is, if you make trouble and usg wants you, the derpy local government will please their masters
00:58 Landgull Sure, they will. What kind of trouble are you looking to make?
00:58 decimation replace fiat with bitcoin?
00:58 Landgull Do you have enough money for them to notice you exist?
00:59 decimation if bitcoin becomes close to replacing any major fiat, it will be 'enough money' for everyone to notice
00:59 asciilifeform Landgull: e.g., weev, had no money.
00:59 asciilifeform neither did the 'ufo hacker' kid in uk
00:59 asciilifeform nor, afaik, mr assange
00:59 asciilifeform money is not needed to be gassed
01:00 Landgull If bitcoin starts replacing fiat, the USgov isn't going to have the resources to come after you.
01:00 decimation and to monetize bitcoin is to destroy the entire usd financial 'system'
01:00 Landgull As for the rest: How many of them lived in non-anglophone countries?
01:00 decimation which is why they will pinch you as soon as they can
01:00 trinque Landgull: I'd expect some tumultuous years before that's complete
01:01 Landgull Sure. But I'd expect your chances are better in a country where the government is essentially non-existent than they are somewhere that they know where you are and can knock on your door.
01:01 asciilifeform they are making the slow but inevitable transition from fraud to robbery
01:02 decimation ^ which is when it will be useful to live in a 'culture of violence'
01:02 asciilifeform Landgull: other thing is, if you rely on electronic banks in any way whatsoever, they'll simply zero your accounts
01:02 asciilifeform and send you a complimentary plane ticket back to gulag
01:02 Landgull Ascii: cash, and meatWOT, and btc are all keys to avoiding that.
01:03 asciilifeform Landgull: if you have enough of these to last your entire natural life, we're happy for you
01:03 Landgull My girlfriend is from here. Her family likes me. If it were THAT dire, I'd go run away to their village and help them grow food.
01:04 decimation how many people in that village will know about the foreigner?
01:04 asciilifeform y'know, for all the things said about american prison, at least no one is compelled to be involved in the growing of food there.
01:04 decimation aye, most of the 'resources' he complains about are spent feeding prisoners
01:05 Landgull If you're going to declare yourself an enemy of the USgov and be a real threat to them, they'll find you, sure.
01:05 decimation or RUgov
01:05 Landgull Or any major government.
01:05 decimation or maybe they will round up the 'dissidents' to be shot to encourage the masses
01:05 Landgull If you just don't want flashbangs coming in your window and poisonous food, then you can have a much better life outside of the US.
01:06 * asciilifeform tries to recall the last time americans threw grenade in his window
01:06 BingoBoingo <Landgull> If you just don't want flashbangs coming in your window and poisonous food, then you can have a much better life outside of the US. << I have yet to seem flashbangs tyvm. I just has a single FBI agent and single treasury agent sweating on my front lawn like the hambeasts they were.
01:07 * asciilifeform tries to recall the last time he ate synthetic food
01:08 Landgull Ascii: There is no actual food available in the US unless you grow it yourself. Seriously. I didn't think it was that bad until I ate real food. As for the flashbangs: people get no-knocked all the time. You're the ones saying they're going to send death-squads to Ukraine after me, but you're not worried about them doing the same to you from in their backyard?
01:08 BingoBoingo Landgull: I am terribly worried of that.
01:08 asciilifeform Landgull: the queue must be long, i'm still waiting to be gassed, give'em some time
01:08 decimation generally no-knocks are done of folks who give the cops some reason to think they will be a threat
01:08 BingoBoingo But I am terribly resigned to being low on the cue
01:09 asciilifeform 'prison is like the grave, room can be found for everyone' (ru proverb)
01:09 Landgull If they want you, they'll find you wherever you go. But it takes a lot more wanting to deal with finding you somewhere else than it does to find you when you're wrapped up with a bow for them.
01:10 asciilifeform Landgull: interestingly, it is much cheaper to have you picked up in an 'orcish' land than in, e.g., new york
01:10 asciilifeform because the dirty work can be done with local hands, and bureaucratic niceties are 100% optional
01:10 Landgull Plus, as I said, the USgov owns the UAgov, but unlike the US where the government really effects your life, the government here is a mass of incompetent bureaucracy without any serious ability to organize anything.
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01:11 decimation no lawyers, etc
01:11 asciilifeform Landgull: ^ and this doesn't affect your life?!
01:11 decimation no other parts of usg to fiddle
01:11 Landgull Well, I'm not trying to be here on a permanent visa.
01:11 BingoBoingo <Landgull> Plus, as I said, the USgov owns the UAgov, but unlike the US where the government really effects your life, the government here is a mass of incompetent bureaucracy without any serious ability to organize anything. << Kinda why Phillipines is on my exit candidate list. Massively orchish and USG proving proving ground for cultural failures.
01:11 Landgull And I'm not suggesting Lviv as the destination of the century - like I said, I'm here to meet the girlfriend's family.
01:11 asciilifeform Landgull: besides, they did organize very well to shell a few million ru folks in east ua day and night. that will be paid for eventually.
01:12 Landgull Yeah, but most of those soldiers are extremely hostile to the UAgov at this point. It's more likely to be paid for by the UAarmy than the RUarmy.
01:12 asciilifeform Landgull: they're bringing in u.s. mercenaries. will be many good lulz.
01:12 Landgull I've heard the Phillipines are good. I've never been there.
01:13 BingoBoingo http://pastebin.com/B1t1i1nx << WHo was in charge of gossipd???
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01:14 decimation I was unaware that generals took the opinion of their troops into account
01:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: artifexd
01:14 BingoBoingo ;;later tell artifexd http://pastebin.com/B1t1i1nx
01:15 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:15 Landgull If the troops have more guns than they have generals...
01:15 decimation then mutineers are shot?
01:15 Landgull These people have been fighting for actual independence, from everyone, for over 100 years. They've fought poles, they've fought germans, they've fought russians.
01:15 Landgull Unlike the USgov with a nebulous idea of "we want to spread democracy guyz" they actually know what they're fighting for.
01:15 asciilifeform Landgull: fighting to be zimbabwe, yes
01:16 asciilifeform Landgull: if they had learned to manufacture so much as an alarm clock, much less airplane or nuke, they would be somewhere on the road to where 'independence' is thinkable outside of a lunatic asylum
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01:16 asciilifeform as we have it - zimbabwe.
01:16 Landgull Ascii: Most of the "economic development" in the world is fed by debt-bubbles.
01:16 decimation I was under the impression that they wanted to recreate the waffen ss
01:16 asciilifeform decimation: aha, with pitchforks (what'll be left after nato packs up)
01:17 decimation http://rt.com/news/155364-ukraine-nazi-division-march/
01:18 Landgull As for the nazi issue: Yes, Bandera and UPA are considered cultural heroes here, and yes they co-operated with the germans, because they thought it was their best chance for an independent Ukraine.
01:18 decimation of course, as moldbug said, actual nazis would ahve been horrified by these guys
01:18 Landgull Most of the things you're saying are what I thought before I actually got on an airplane and came here.
01:18 asciilifeform Landgull: i happen to have been born there.
01:18 Landgull In Lviv?
01:19 asciilifeform 600km east
01:19 asciilifeform odessa
01:20 Landgull Are you Russian or Ukrainian?
01:20 asciilifeform ru
01:20 decimation wait, I thought ukrainian was kind of a rural-hick version of russian (as a language)
01:20 asciilifeform when the ukrs came, changed the street signs, and forced their chimp dialect to be taught in schools, my folks packed up for usa.
01:20 asciilifeform decimation: it is
01:21 asciilifeform decimation: phun phact: 'u kraina' ~= 'on the hinterlands'
01:21 decimation the idea that western ukraine exists as a separate race or language is hilarious
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01:21 BingoBoingo Landgull: May I suggest lever action rifle as a solution to your problems. Since pistol caliber casting rounds with coinsilver is surprisingly reasonable
01:22 Landgull ...except I can look at people and tell who is Russian and who is Ukrainian. And again: I'm not saying Ukraine is the mecca to run to, I'm saying that getting out of the US to somewhere that is saner, (and yes, UA is saner than the US) is worth the effort.
01:22 asciilifeform Landgull: west ua is ethnically own things, yes. largely pl and hu folks
01:23 decimation russia itself isn't exactly homogenous
01:24 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
01:24 Landgull Ascii: holodomor and resettling of russians during the USSR definitely effected the country in a big way, demographically, such that "historically Ukrainian" lands aren't really Ukrainian anymore.
01:24 asciilifeform decimation: when most foreigners think of ru, they picture something roughly like the duchy of moscovy circa 1300s
01:24 * BingoBoingo pictures Sean Connery's home in Hunt for the Red October
01:25 asciilifeform *1500
01:26 Landgull But the Ukrainians are an actual race and culture - yes they're similar to the Poles, the Hungarians, and the Russians, but whether or not they're a biological race or just a cultural and linguistic one, they've a strong sense of national identity and a strong desire for national self-determination.
01:26 decimation asciilifeform: yeah but what about all the turkic and mongoliod autonomous regions
01:26 asciilifeform next Landgull will have us consider the pakistanis or taiwanese 'an ancient and own race and culture'
01:26 Landgull I also think that Crimea and eastern UA shouldn't probably be part of the same country as western and central UA.
01:27 asciilifeform rather than the anglo-created zoos they are
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01:27 decimation Urdu having sprung from the wisdom of the british line-drawers
01:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.0003292 = 6.0244 BTC [-]
01:27 asciilifeform and i'd like to learn of the ancient and proud race of south korea.
01:27 Landgull Except the people here have been fighting to be their own country since before the US became an empire.
01:27 decimation Landgull: what about Zabaykalsky Krai
01:28 asciilifeform Landgull: mainly fighting poles, and turks, yes
01:28 Landgull Decimation: It's not something I know enough about to make any comment on.
01:28 asciilifeform and to avoid rape & pillage, rather than 'to be own country', which is really a 19th c. psychiatric disease
01:28 asciilifeform and in its most acute manifestations, far more recent than that
01:29 decimation my point is that there are plenty of autonomous oblasts inside ru which have similiar 'ethnic and liguistic' claims
01:29 decimation hell, so do the apache in arizona
01:29 Landgull And if they want independence, why shouldn't they have it?
01:29 asciilifeform decimation: i will add that usg works tirelessly to help -them- as well 'wake up' to their 'ancient and proud cultural identity and thirst for independence'
01:29 decimation because they suck, and cannot achieve it
01:30 Landgull So, you're opposed to US imperialism, but simultaneously think that people shouldn't have a right to self-determination?
01:30 asciilifeform Landgull: any flea-bitten village can become an independent country. all it needs to do is learn to manufacture ballistic rockets and nukes by the thousands.
01:30 asciilifeform and submarines to sail them on.
01:30 decimation woah, I never said I was opposed to us imperialism
01:30 decimation I'm opposed to the lack of liberty in the us
01:30 asciilifeform anything short of this, is just switching the selection of imperial rapist
01:31 asciilifeform Landgull: 'right to self-determination' comes from these gadgets and nowhere else.
01:31 Landgull Ascii: a kalashnikov in the hands of every resident would achieve the same thing.
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01:31 mats fun fact: some large radio telescopes were built for earth to moon to earth surveillance of su radars
01:31 asciilifeform Landgull: only if you're goatfuckistan
01:31 asciilifeform with no infrastructure
01:31 asciilifeform mats: i thought this was well-known
01:32 mats why would you think that
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01:32 decimation what is your kalash going to do against a T-72?
01:32 Landgull You don't go running headfirst towards tanks unless you're an idiot.
01:32 decimation or an entire village pointing the finger at the foreign wrecker
01:32 asciilifeform decimation: notice how usg is in kandahar but not in moscow
01:32 mats fun fact: there are ascii art animals in the windows source
01:32 asciilifeform it is not enough for the defensive weapon to make attack unprofitable, or even suicidal. it must be -unthinkable-
01:33 asciilifeform as in - 'new york is glass'
01:33 decimation yeah, cn and ru are more-or-less independent
01:33 Landgull ...for the last time, I'm not saying "Hey guys, you should move to Ukraine." or that I'm moving to Ukraine for that matter - I prefer South America on the whole. I'm saying that if you want personal liberty, and to not live in an insane culture, you can actually leave and be better off.
01:34 asciilifeform Landgull: i was merely arguing that you have not actually left usa
01:34 decimation and I'm saying that you have lept from the frying pan into the fire
01:34 asciilifeform just living in the 76th state or the like.
01:34 decimation you are part of the greater-usaia that has no pretense of rights
01:34 asciilifeform yes, flat in lvov costs about what it does in iowa.
01:34 asciilifeform but why is this exciting
01:35 decimation ^ if ascii wanted to live in a mut hut, he could do in the us for the same price
01:35 mats fun fact: an untrusted process can invoke ACPI control methods with arbitrary arguments.
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01:35 asciilifeform cheaper
01:35 asciilifeform no need for airplane.
01:35 decimation could even carry kalash
01:35 asciilifeform mats: untrusted ~= without admin ?
01:35 mats yeah
01:35 asciilifeform mats: considering the ease of bypassing uac on all known winblows, sorta academic
01:36 decimation mats: probably depends on how retarded your hardware is
01:36 asciilifeform mats: or the abundance of buggy legit-signed drivers to dynamically load and exploit
01:36 Landgull Ascii: I won't disagree with you (decimation, you're wrong.) that most of the world is currently under the USgov thumb, to some degree. But you are still better off in an outlying part of it, where the control is less potent, and has much less influence on your daily life (like, in terms of being able to buy food that doesn't make you sick, and being able to date girls who aren't insane) than you are sitting in their back yard
01:37 asciilifeform Landgull: get back to us re: the girls once you have $0
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01:37 asciilifeform and re: their sanity once you renounce your u.s. passport formally
01:37 decimation heh yeah
01:38 Landgull Ascii: met the girl in Canada, she pays for half of everything, and she's not interested in ever going back to the west, because it's too insane.
01:38 * asciilifeform cannot comment on the specifics of Landgull's case here, but the overall prognosis of americans who go abroad 'for the gurlz' is dire
01:39 Landgull Decimation: You're imagining that governments in the rest of the world work like the US government. I.E. the laws on the books matter. They can pass a law saying just about anything they want, but they don't have the means to enforce it and they have a population that is used to just ignoring government stupidity instead of bending over.
01:39 Landgull The babusya/babushkas here have more power than Poroshenko does.
01:39 asciilifeform Landgull: this cuts both ways. if locals start charging you $1000/mo for the great privilege of your flat not being torched, the officials -also- will not care.
01:40 Landgull Sure. And it's why you do need to actually integrate. I.E. learn the language, get to know people, etc.
01:40 asciilifeform if Landgull did this - congrats to him
01:40 Landgull Same thing with the women. If you go to Ukraine, find English speaking girls, and flash your passport and cash around, you're going to have a bad day.
01:40 Vexual how much is the chapagne agian?!?!
01:41 Landgull ~40-50 hryvnyas. So $2-3
01:41 Landgull Ascii: I'm working, slowly, on my Ukrainian. My Spanish is much better.
01:41 Vexual yeah depends where you go i suppose
01:42 decimation Landgull: seems like a high price to pay in terms of years of your life for very thin guarantees
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01:42 Landgull Decimation: I'm not running from, I'm running to.
01:42 Landgull I used to be running from.
01:43 Landgull I like learning languages, and I like buying my food in an open air market from the person who grew it.
01:44 Vexual i like strip joints
01:44 Vexual prolly where i went wrong
01:45 Landgull Haha. I also like cheap vodka and cops you can bribe away from petty crimes.
01:45 Vexual in australia, its too hot for the cops to get out of the car mostly
01:45 Vexual they do finger wagging with the windows up
01:46 Landgull XD
01:47 Landgull I'd rather there were a safe, sane, stable country where I could go, build a business, and have a normal life, but that's not going to exist until btc finishes what it has started.
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01:48 Landgull And if the western finance system does come crashing down, you're going to be better off in poor countries (granted that you can live like a local) because they're used to things like that happening. USistan will devolve into utter insanity.
01:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16174 @ 0.00032862 = 5.3151 BTC [-]
01:53 Vexual safe, sane, and stable are all kind subjective
01:54 Vexual why most people stay put
01:54 Landgull !up Vexual
01:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15474 @ 0.00033521 = 5.187 BTC [+]
01:56 Landgull Sure, it's not for everyone.
01:57 Vexual what, moving or sanity?
01:57 Landgull Moving. The fact that people still pay for cable is proof that the second isn't for everyone.
01:58 Vexual cable tv?
01:59 Landgull It was more of a quip than a serious comment - but I know a number of people who spend their time yelling at the box because of what obama/the republicans/the gays/the church did today.
01:59 Vexual oh yes
01:59 Vexual where are you now, forgive my memeory constraints
01:59 Vexual asia?
01:59 Landgull Right now, Lviv, Ukraine.
01:59 Vexual north asia
02:00 Landgull For the next 2.5 months.
02:00 Vexual chapagnes that cheap huh?
02:01 Vexual you must be doing something right
02:01 Landgull Cost of living, for the same standard of living, is ~5-10x lower here than in the US
02:02 Vexual can you get a good tomato?
02:02 Landgull If you actually go shop at the market and take public transport, as opposed to walling yourself off in some hotel.
02:02 Landgull The food is better than anything I've ever had before.
02:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00032505 = 4.4532 BTC [-]
02:03 Landgull People from the villages around Lviv bring in what they grow and sell it to you. No mass-produced GMO rin tomatoes.
02:04 Landgull The reason tomatoes are pink instead of red is they're heterozygous for RIN, or ripening-inhibition gene to make them ship better.
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02:04 Vexual i kinda like em firm like that
02:04 Vexual for sandwiches
02:05 Landgull Well, they're still firm, because they're fresh. But you have to go to the market every day or two because the food goes bad quickly.
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02:06 Landgull Which sounds like a bad thing, but I'd like to know why it is that chicken rots much faster in Ukraine than in the US...
02:06 Landgull If the bacteria won't eat it...
02:06 Vexual fuck furn around here and the shits got maggots
02:07 Vexual old school aussie fridge was a flyscreen
02:08 Landgull I'm not trying to claim that this is some kind of paradise, it's absolutely not, and you have to give up a lot of the "first world" comforts.
02:08 Vexual like strippers that dont pull a gun?
02:08 Landgull Eh, violence here when it happens is much more the fist fight sort than the murder sort.
02:09 Landgull Or the "I want your money" and then run away sort.
02:09 Landgull It's definitely safer than the city I grew up in back in the US.
02:11 Vexual sounds like a no-brainer
02:12 mircea_popescu in sadder news, a reasonably recent 8 core server is doing block verification at the rate of 28 seconds per.
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02:12 mircea_popescu back when it was comissioned coupla years ago it blazed through them at the rate of 7-10 seconds per.
02:12 mircea_popescu if one scales shit linarily, a 20mb block would be verified by this machine in 560 seconds, or just a shade under 10 minutes
02:13 mircea_popescu meaning that the average server your average internaut can't afford would barely keep up with the chain.
02:14 Landgull So doesn't that mean the 20mb block will self-defeat?
02:14 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> if one scales shit linarily, a 20mb block would be verified by this machine in 560 seconds, or just a shade under 10 minutes << Welcome to my world
02:14 Vexual it means it time to vet ur nodes or ask someone else to bitcoin for you
02:15 mircea_popescu Landgull the 20mb block is a transparent attempt by the usg to take control back.
02:15 mircea_popescu it will self-defeat once the last policeman is buried in the coffin of the last politician.
02:16 Landgull I don't think they can keep fighting physics and math forever.
02:16 BingoBoingo Apparently some upstate politician who called himself Illinois fats died this week.
02:16 Vexual rabies?
02:16 mircea_popescu the masquerade where "people" ie, social media astroturf is misrepresented as being in favour of this atrocity...
02:17 mircea_popescu "we joined bitcoin because we didn't like the banks so please take our bitcoin and put it in a bank"
02:18 Vexual they renamed rabies here when they discovered over 50% of the fruitbats had it
02:18 Vexual different strain
02:19 Vexual still kills you
02:19 Landgull Sure, but at least you didn't die of rabies.
02:20 Vexual well define a species
02:20 Landgull That was sarcasm.
02:20 Vexual as was mine, kinda
02:20 Landgull Homo facebookus would have to be aware of its life to die.
02:21 Vexual more of an openeded intelecutal thingus really
02:23 mircea_popescu i guess.
02:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4676 @ 0.00033521 = 1.5674 BTC [+]
02:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34277 @ 0.00034431 = 11.8019 BTC [+] {2}
02:27 BingoBoingo !up Vexual
02:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22223 @ 0.00034815 = 7.7369 BTC [+] {2}
02:29 Vexual southpark episides are so much easier to invent than southpark episides
02:32 Vexual ^some ada for alf
02:35 Vexual shoulda read seinfelf
02:35 Vexual d
02:36 Vexual where you malign yourslef agains your best friend and make funny mistakes
02:36 Vexual its funny coz its true
02:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152492 << o.O
02:38 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 03:48:44; Landgull: They can't ban flights in and out of the US, that would strangle the beast.
02:39 mircea_popescu what is this, crazy logic hour ?
02:40 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152507 << amusingly, the best pay for teaching greek was after the city collapsed
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02:40 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 03:51:56; asciilifeform: esp. after u.s. is done
02:40 mircea_popescu not before.
02:40 Landgull It would, though. The US learned from the USSR: you're better off making people believe that you'll be murdered and raped and strangled if you go anywhere and leave the hotel. It keeps people in line much more effectively than a travel ban would.
02:40 Landgull If a few dissidents flee, what of it? They were dissidents anyway.
02:41 Landgull But if you try to ban leaving, they have to admit what they really are.
02:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152520 << this and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152525 make for excellent reading. alf's developing the delivery skills of a character in a tenessee williams play.
02:41 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 04:24:38; asciilifeform: Landgull: planning to live by gleaning ?
02:41 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 04:26:29; asciilifeform: Landgull: i'd rather be boiled for soap
02:42 mircea_popescu Landgull the future hears you and says "your cheap psycho-skullduggery holds no power here".
02:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152529 << for the local equivalent of checking someone else's privilege for them, yeah.
02:43 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 04:27:15; decimation: can also catch a 7.62 round
02:47 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152567 << i wonder what should be happening in one's head who "owns" real estate in random country but employs no army there.
02:47 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 04:37:45; Landgull: You can buy enough rental properties in Lviv to live indefinitely with indefinite free time for ~$100k USD.
02:48 mircea_popescu what's the idea, someone'll indemnify you, come hell or high water, because they deeply care ?
02:49 Vexual reminds me of kenilworth of btct fame whos books i just went over
02:49 Landgull I don't own real estate in Lviv and won't particularly recommend it as an investment. Though it's probably better than a US bank account, which I do have.
02:49 mircea_popescu if one's forced to pick prolly best pick a mix, but yeah
02:50 Landgull I wouldn't be in a bitcoin channel if I thought that assets a government can take from you easily were a good idea. XD
02:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152594 << yes, actually, it is.
02:51 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 04:44:55; asciilifeform: Landgull: culture of bending over and quietly taking arse rape is an improvement ?
02:51 Vexual next time theyll sitck to assob, lol
02:51 mircea_popescu the us would be infinitely better if instead of "raising awareness" the impotent twerps would be busy accepting rape into their lives.
02:52 Landgull As for the rest: if you're in line at a slaughterhouse, your best move is always to try to get away, even if you risk being shot in the process. Uncertain success is better than certain failure, and life in the US has become so intolerable that I'd rather take my chances with an uncertain future than with a certain one.
02:52 mircea_popescu who're you again ?
02:52 Vexual at least 800k missing, and all the vexual sundies add app to an obscenely close number to the allwoable sundries
02:52 Landgull I'm a newb.
02:53 mircea_popescu that's a what.
02:53 Landgull I'm just some guy who found this place a few weeks ago, read the logs for a while, and decided that I'd like to join the community here, if it'll have me.
02:54 mircea_popescu Landgull so what's flyotech ?
02:55 Landgull Heh. Was a startup I was working on, using black soldier fly larvae to convert organic waste into biodiesel, fish feed, and fertilizer. Actually got it into Startup Chile, but my business partner refused to go to Chile and cost me the grant.
02:56 mircea_popescu married ?
02:56 mircea_popescu the partner i mean
02:56 Landgull Patents are in the process. And yeah, it was the girlfriend - not married yet, but she has his balls just the same.
02:57 Landgull It's for the best, the more I've learned about the "start up community" the more they make me want to gouge out my own eyes.
02:57 mircea_popescu beware of women affraid to travel and fuck strangers. they make horrible wives.
02:58 Landgull I'd say if you're dating a girl who would allow you to not go to something like that, you're dating the wrong woman.
02:59 Landgull Either way, a couple other people have caught onto similar ideas and have gotten pretty far ahead of me by now, but I put in a patent app a while back and with any luck I'll be able to license those out when I get done with it.
02:59 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152634 << nuttiest thing i ever heard. so go into the secret service headquarters, kick the boss out of his office and play quake on his desktop for an evening.
02:59 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 04:56:21; Landgull: And the government is owned by the US here, but the government here doesn't have any actual power.
03:01 Landgull Meh - fair point, but I mean they have very limited ability to screw with people who are just trying to live their lives.
03:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5257 @ 0.00033911 = 1.7827 BTC [-]
03:02 mircea_popescu you confuse two unrelated things. thieves do not steal the brickwork but leave it behind for similar reasons.
03:02 mircea_popescu apparently, it's because they have very limited ability to screw with stuff.
03:02 mircea_popescu but on tyhe other hand, make the bricks out of solid gold and see.
03:02 Landgull Sure, if the Ukrainians had anything to steal, the government would rapidly begin to steal it. But right now it's more profitable for them to steal from the USG.
03:03 mircea_popescu you see where this is going ?
03:04 Landgull Sure. And my response is that I expect to dry my laundry on a clothesline until fiat is dead.
03:04 mircea_popescu i once knew a guy who deigned to pick up the phone half the time when desperate hot women were calling to beg him to let them come over for a spell.
03:05 mircea_popescu obviously, this doesn't work for everybody.
03:05 mircea_popescu but mayhap it'll work for your clothesline
03:05 Landgull But I still prefer people who steal from you because they're just stealing from you and they want your stuff to people who steal for you and ask you to say it's for your own good.
03:05 Landgull The Ukie lot only try to steal your stuff, they don't bother trying to rape your mind.
03:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28451 @ 0.00033844 = 9.629 BTC [-]
03:06 Landgull steal from you, rather*
03:07 mircea_popescu arguably they do the same thing, with the means their limited intellect allows them to try and employ. or to quote :
03:09 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> you confuse two unrelated things. thieves do not steal the brickwork but leave it behind for similar reasons. << And this is the warning flag Ferguson is a special failure. Theives steal the bricks.
03:09 mircea_popescu "Orangutans are among the most forceful of mammals. Bornean orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus) exhibited aggression in almost 90 percent of their copulations, including when the females were not resisting. A possible explanation for aggressive behaviors in primates is that it is a way for males to train females to be afraid of them and be more likely to surrender to future sexual advances."
03:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5618 @ 0.00033911 = 1.9051 BTC [+]
03:12 Landgull Sure, but having grown up in the US, the buttons that were implanted in me can still be pushed by their propaganda.
03:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152686 << in this he has a point. the thirld world derps are comically incompetent to a degree perhaps best typified by that kidnapped columbian general in charge of supressing farc last year.
03:12 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:10:49; Landgull: Plus, as I said, the USgov owns the UAgov, but unlike the US where the government really effects your life, the government here is a mass of incompetent bureaucracy without any serious ability to organize anything.
03:12 mircea_popescu the bar to effectual interdiction can be as low as a dozen armed trained hands.
03:13 mircea_popescu so yes it is much cheaper, in the sense that if you're cheap it's cheaper and if not it can't be done.
03:14 Landgull There's not really anywhere safe to go with assets, including btc, though it beats most of the alternatives.
03:14 mircea_popescu much like the flea market works. cheapest half-and-half to be had in the lands, but you won't get any pornstar poon there.
03:14 BingoBoingo From what I've read Sinaloa's fortunes have taken a turn for the worse since their USG connections at the top were revealed
03:14 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo interesting how that works huh.
03:14 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Truly.
03:16 BingoBoingo Meanwhile Los Zetas and the other non-USG cartel have their Eric Holder weapons somewhere...
03:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152697 << wut was that ?
03:16 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:13:08; BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/B1t1i1nx << WHo was in charge of gossipd???
03:16 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Freenode banned #fatpeoplehate
03:16 mircea_popescu heh
03:17 BingoBoingo Imagine that though. An actual social justice cause organized on Freenode and B&
03:18 mircea_popescu why don't they go to 8chan instead.
03:18 BingoBoingo Their core is still on Reddit
03:18 BingoBoingo Their IRC is a sideshow
03:19 mircea_popescu they also sound pretty retarded.
03:19 BingoBoingo Happens with any broadly inclusive cause
03:19 mircea_popescu overeager young males with significant socialisation deficit.
03:19 mircea_popescu i guess.
03:20 BingoBoingo But on reddit they are nearly as popular as Bitcoin to within 2%
03:21 mircea_popescu lol mkay
03:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00034844 = 3.1011 BTC [+]
03:21 mircea_popescu and bottlecaps are more popular than sex.
03:22 mircea_popescu "Thin privilege is uploading a picture of yourself that takes under 1 minute to render"
03:22 mircea_popescu lmao
03:23 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You have to understand since you left 'Murica it has only gotten heavier
03:23 chetty thin privilege? thats a parody I hope ...
03:23 mircea_popescu chetty your hopes are misplaced!
03:23 BingoBoingo chetty: We can wish, but reality...
03:24 BingoBoingo Orcs are always going to bitch about Elf priviledge
03:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152707 << check out alf hating on teh ukrs.
03:24 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:16:13; asciilifeform: Landgull: if they had learned to manufacture so much as an alarm clock, much less airplane or nuke, they would be somewhere on the road to where 'independence' is thinkable outside of a lunatic asylum
03:25 * punkman just saw two of the largest landwhales I've seen in a while... in one of those tiny Smart cars
03:26 Landgull Mircea: out of curiosity, wouldn't Romania be culturally closer to Ukraine than to the USA? I'm curious which of the two you would prefer to live in (or, for that matter, if there's a place that's better in your mind.)
03:26 punkman I don't know why fat people would buy that car, they didn't look comfortable at all.
03:26 * BingoBoingo hates Walmart's move to supercenter's last decade because it cemented scooty puff culture as a mainstream thing
03:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152726 << no, actually, this is factual. "small russians".
03:27 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:21:16; decimation: the idea that western ukraine exists as a separate race or language is hilarious
03:28 mircea_popescu Landgull romania is culturally close to things that no longer exist, not have existed for a long time. romanian is the closest thing to spoken latin still left around.
03:29 mircea_popescu i'll take ukrainian girls and usian machinery as it used to be and bid both let me be.
03:29 Landgull Sure, but given that we're still in meatspace, one does have to pick a corner of it, or at least a corner at any given time.
03:31 mircea_popescu aha
03:32 mircea_popescu in other lulz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Kuban
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03:33 Landgull I think the rise of the nation state has caused people to think that there are supposed to be hard lines between ethnicities and cultures.
03:34 mircea_popescu or vice-versa.
03:35 Landgull If a state of affairs is highly profitable for a minority at the expense of a majority, and is maintained via force, I tend to think it's not entirely self-organizing.
03:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152740 << fun fact : the hutu massacre has its origins in the fact that belgian missionaries selectively raped gracile, lighter skinned girls for a century
03:35 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:27:03; asciilifeform: rather than the anglo-created zoos they are
03:35 mircea_popescu which created, actually did create, an ethnic subset, with its own fenotypical and cultural particularities
03:36 mircea_popescu which got... reclaimed.
03:36 mircea_popescu Landgull as you age you'll notice that organizing anything is too much effort for most minorities, and in general what they do is try to ride waves, like flies plowing.
03:37 mircea_popescu a minority that actually organises its ascendancy over any majority is the supreme good.
03:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152767 << he just does :D
03:38 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:32:11; mats: why would you think that
03:39 Landgull So I take it you're a fan of the Assad government, then? Or the House of Saud?
03:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00034593 = 5.0679 BTC [-] {3}
03:43 mircea_popescu me ? nope.
03:43 Landgull Both minority groups that organized their way to power by becoming useful as puppets to larger entities (RU and USA, respectively.) Arguably better than the mob that is trying to seize power, but then, that mob is mostly backed by the respective large entities anyway.
03:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152762 << this recipe, if taken voluntarily and out of a love of freedom, leads to pashtunistan. a great place to make actual friends, a horrible place to live. or get laid.
03:43 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:31:22; Landgull: Ascii: a kalashnikov in the hands of every resident would achieve the same thing.
03:44 mircea_popescu if taken up centrally directedly, it's north korea.
03:44 mircea_popescu Landgull where you got the idea that the saudites came to power serving the us ?
03:44 Landgull It's how they've solidified and maintained it.
03:45 mircea_popescu ...
03:45 mircea_popescu next you're gonna tell me the us exists by serving tenochtitlan
03:45 Landgull So, what is Saudi oil priced in nowadays?
03:46 mircea_popescu historically, saudi kingdom was well established and independent back when wolves ate more people on the us east coast than people killed wolves. politically, the us has ~alkways~ been the bitch in the us-saudi relationship.
03:46 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> next you're gonna tell me the us exists by serving tenochtitlan << Eric Holder's ATF did...
03:46 mircea_popescu you figure if al pacino makes a movie for new line cinema, nlc is doing HIM a favour by this ?
03:47 Landgull That only solidifies the argument that the House of Saud is a minority that came to power by will rather than by riding a wave.
03:47 mircea_popescu i don't see it.
03:48 mircea_popescu just, much larger waves in this world than the us.
03:48 mircea_popescu the golden crescent has its own centrifugal dynamics, what.
03:48 BingoBoingo Hell in Arabi Wahabism is bgger than USia as ISIL demonstrates
03:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27613 @ 0.00034847 = 9.6223 BTC [+] {2}
03:50 mircea_popescu http://rt.com/news/155364-ukraine-nazi-division-march/ << the 2nd historical chick brigade...
03:51 Landgull If one recognizes the value of some asset, such as oil, and uses it to its fullest benefit to gain power, I'd find it hard to successfully argue that it's not a group coming to power by organizing its ascendency.
03:51 mircea_popescu except this situation only exists in sid meyer's "civilisation"
03:52 BingoBoingo And exists best in the sequel
03:53 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152784 << welcome to the 101th state lol.
03:53 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:35:14; mats: fun fact: an untrusted process can invoke ACPI control methods with arbitrary arguments.
03:54 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152794 << ok, now you're being plain mean. if there's a broad group of women that are upright in that sense, it'd be the ukrs.
03:54 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:37:26; asciilifeform: Landgull: get back to us re: the girls once you have $0
03:55 Landgull But what I mean is this: your argument is a non-form because the goal posts can always be shifted. If they have a strategic advantage of any sort, it can be claimed as a wave. Some strategic advantage will always exist. So the only way a minority can organize against a majority without "just riding a wave" is if they ignore all of their strategic advantages - which would make your supreme good exceedingly foolish. It's like say
03:56 BingoBoingo Dude's resigning https://bitbet.us/bet/1154/fifa-president-sepp-blatter-out-of-office-in/
03:57 mircea_popescu Landgull there's no hard and fast requirement that what happens is perceptible. this in the general. there's also no requirement that what is perceptible is perceptible to you (ie, any arbitrary agent). the expectation that you personally would understand what happened in x or y complex political situation is, to me, highly comedic.
03:57 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that was fast.
03:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah, he press conferenced it.
03:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152809 << you're married, aren't ya ? what guarantees.
03:58 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:42:05; decimation: Landgull: seems like a high price to pay in terms of years of your life for very thin guarantees
03:59 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152819 << ahahaha i nearly fell over.
03:59 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 05:47:08; Landgull: I'd rather there were a safe, sane, stable country where I could go, build a business, and have a normal life, but that's not going to exist until btc finishes what it has started.
03:59 mircea_popescu go, build business.
03:59 mircea_popescu ah such lolg.
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04:01 Landgull Even if the cause is imperceptible, without some skill of maintenance everything crumbles in time. Which book is a best seller today is likely random and inscrutable, no book would be read 1,000 years after being written without skill.
04:01 mircea_popescu except very good books are lost and very bad books still read.
04:02 Landgull Sure, but if we were to be forced to place a bet on what would be read 1,000 years from now, my bet would go towards the good.
04:02 mircea_popescu whose good ?
04:03 BingoBoingo brb, naps
04:03 Landgull Yours.
04:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41150 @ 0.00033483 = 13.7783 BTC [-] {4}
04:04 mircea_popescu forget the thousand, take the hundred. lazar meir, since we've discussed him earlier, had some very strange ideas about good, and constructed a very crazy united states. forcing a point it could be said that he is the architect of today's woes in the hinterlands, exactly like lincoln is the architect of the black poverty and racial tensions.
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04:04 mircea_popescu so now... nobody would have disagreed at the time that his madonna whore complex is "wholesome" - their exact words.
04:05 mircea_popescu i struggle to find any value in any of his productions, and you certainly don't even know what they are.
04:05 mircea_popescu it's been... 70 years.
04:06 mircea_popescu meanwhile le chien andalou still stands, or to quote herr orwell... "Clearly, such people are undesirable, and a society in which they can flourish has something wrong with it."
04:06 Landgull Since you're right that I don't know who he is, I can't respond to that argument.
04:06 Landgull I do hate Lincoln more than any other US president, though.
04:09 Landgull Thank you for the debate - I concede the point and I'm off to run errands. I am, however, still waiting for someone to claim and argue for their corner of meatspace, instead of against mine (of the moment.)
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04:28 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152462 <<< catching chickens yet or what?
04:28 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 03:39:14; BingoBoingo: In other news, training to get into shape for boxing training is progressing nicely. 80 pushups yesterday... May be able to try a boxing gym next year. Would be nice if I could line it up with USian exodus
04:28 cazalla if you can catch chickens, you can catch greased lightning
04:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00032729 = 6.9876 BTC [-] {2}
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05:47 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152845 <<< i dunno man, whoever heard of tomatoes going bad after 2 days? (and i grow em every summer) maybe some chernobyl variety?
05:47 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 06:04:14; Landgull: The reason tomatoes are pink instead of red is they're heterozygous for RIN, or ripening-inhibition gene to make them ship better.
05:47 cazalla oops wrong one http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152848
05:47 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 06:05:18; Landgull: Well, they're still firm, because they're fresh. But you have to go to the market every day or two because the food goes bad quickly.
06:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26728 @ 0.0003487 = 9.3201 BTC [+]
06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7996 @ 0.0003491 = 2.7914 BTC [+]
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00034564 = 11.6308 BTC [-] {2}
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06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41219 @ 0.00034853 = 14.3661 BTC [+] {3}
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06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62200 @ 0.00033606 = 20.9029 BTC [-] {3}
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07:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78850 @ 0.00034012 = 26.8185 BTC [+] {2}
07:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00033157 = 10.8423 BTC [-] {2}
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07:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00034773 = 7.2328 BTC [+] {4}
08:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00032436 = 1.6669 BTC [-] {2}
08:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6296 @ 0.00033076 = 2.0825 BTC [+]
08:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18204 @ 0.00033076 = 6.0212 BTC [+]
08:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00032426 = 3.8911 BTC [-]
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.0003248 = 4.8395 BTC [+]
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09:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00032426 = 8.9496 BTC [-]
09:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.0003246 = 4.3821 BTC [+]
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09:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32770 @ 0.00032479 = 10.6434 BTC [+] {2}
09:48 mats fun fact: creators of the BLE spec published it with known vulnerabilities, e.g: "None of the pairing methods provide protection against a passive eavedropper during the pairing process as predictable or easily established values for TK are used." (BLE Core 4.0, Vol.3, p604)
09:51 jurov BLE: Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers: BLE: Bilingual Education: BLE: Branch If Less or Equal: BLE: Bulletin de Littérature Ecclésiastique (French: Bulletin of Ecclesiastical Literature)
09:51 jurov ?
09:52 jurov oh, prolly bluetooth stuff
09:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.0003248 = 3.0694 BTC [+]
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.0003248 = 8.4123 BTC [+]
09:57 mats Bluetooth Low Energy
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10:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00032496 = 7.4091 BTC [+] {2}
10:35 lobbes thanks for dropping this in the logs, alf: http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/thematic_tutorials/numtheory_rsa.html
10:36 lobbes I'm finding it quite useful for understanding rsa fundamentals
10:47 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
10:48 BingoBoingo !up cosmo
11:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36414 @ 0.00034158 = 12.4383 BTC [+] {2}
11:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11086 @ 0.00034346 = 3.8076 BTC [+]
11:04 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152859 << wait till they offer hardware accelerators (sold to usg catamites only, naturally)
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11:04 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 06:12:05; mircea_popescu: in sadder news, a reasonably recent 8 core server is doing block verification at the rate of 28 seconds per.
11:04 hanbot !uo cosmo
11:05 hanbot kramer?
11:05 hanbot !up cosmo
11:05 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152896 << greeks had culture
11:05 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 06:40:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152507 << amusingly, the best pay for teaching greek was after the city collapsed
11:07 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153001 << what happened here
11:07 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 07:32:45; mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Kuban
11:08 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153062 << what ideas did he have, other than liking the smell of money ?
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11:08 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 08:04:26; mircea_popescu: forget the thousand, take the hundred. lazar meir, since we've discussed him earlier, had some very strange ideas about good, and constructed a very crazy united states. forcing a point it could be said that he is the architect of today's woes in the hinterlands, exactly like lincoln is the architect of the black poverty and racial tensions.
11:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29617 @ 0.00033335 = 9.8728 BTC [-]
11:10 hanbot cazalla, things go bad in the tropics like you wouldn't believe. i am half surprised to find dry folded clothes still there a few days later.
11:18 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
11:20 scoopbot_revived Dotcom Scores Victory Against Forfeiture in New Zealand Court http://qntra.net/2015/06/dotcom-scores-victory-against-forfeiture-in-new-zealand-court/
11:26 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: i didn't opt into the US legal regime either
11:26 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Your parents did that for you.
11:27 ben_vulpes today in fiatderping news
11:27 ben_vulpes i am opening a "health savings account"
11:27 ben_vulpes they want me to scan in my passport and upload it to their secure portal.
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11:27 ben_vulpes MHM SURE.
11:28 BingoBoingo lol
11:28 ben_vulpes just take the magic digits that identify me as a ("loyal") subject of the crown
11:32 BingoBoingo https://imgur.com/gallery/9CAfo
11:35 ascii_field BingoBoingo: what was this
11:36 BingoBoingo ascii_field: The FBI's plane flying in circle company
11:36 ascii_field l0l
11:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00033107 = 5.0488 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00033964 = 9.1703 BTC [+] {2}
11:42 * BingoBoingo surprised they didn't call it "Circle" but they wasted that name on financial surveillance
11:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00033801 = 1.876 BTC [-]
11:43 punkman heh
11:49 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
11:56 mod6 Update: v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphange Amputation } is up to block: 344679
11:56 mod6 Also, eulora v0.1.0 running in ubuntu 14.04 :]
11:57 mod6 Thanks to chetty & jurov!
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14359 @ 0.00034024 = 4.8855 BTC [+]
12:06 BingoBoingo !up liquidassets
12:07 liquidassets Looks like coinbase is starting to make their fork from bitcoin
12:08 BingoBoingo Oh?
12:08 shinohai Are they switching to XT ?
12:08 liquidassets received an email today that they have decided to sever our banking relationship
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12:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00034909 = 12.7767 BTC [+] {4}
12:08 liquidassets They're definitely starting to get nervous as investment demand grows
12:12 jurov how is that related to btc fork?
12:12 liquidassets it's inevitable
12:13 liquidassets \they're going to be payment processors for their merchants and consumers
12:13 liquidassets they're not going to provide liquidity for the investment crowd
12:16 liquidassets it seems I've lost my ability to easily turn btc into cash. Not that I didn't anticipate this eventually happening
12:16 scoopbot_revived NYDFS Announces Final Bitlicense Rules http://qntra.net/2015/06/nydfs-announces-final-bitlicense-rules/
12:17 danielpbarron oh, i was gonna ask what kind of customer you are to them
12:17 danielpbarron you're doing the opposite thing i'm doing
12:17 liquidassets Sure of course
12:18 liquidassets so I"m pretty careful by nature
12:18 danielpbarron i have no trouble selling bitcoin for USD; i need coinbase to easily get bitcoin
12:18 liquidassets I buy my btc through them
12:18 liquidassets as I have slowly since Nov. 2013
12:19 danielpbarron ah, then my termination email is probably on its way as well :/
12:19 danielpbarron i hope they at least finish my pending stuff
12:19 liquidassets once I learned how to set up my own wallets I started taking them back
12:19 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
12:20 liquidassets sometimes I buy a few small things using their interface like a trezor or mycelium entropy
12:20 liquidassets made a larger sized investment recently, which seems to have triggered it
12:20 liquidassets pulled about $20K bezzlebucks from ameritrade account
12:21 danielpbarron oh phew, that's more than I've done total probably
12:21 ascii_field l0l, rich people problems
12:21 liquidassets transferred to my coinbase account and bought about 80 btc
12:21 danielpbarron did you get the 80 coins?
12:22 liquidassets they're still sitting there in my "vault"
12:22 danielpbarron what does that mean
12:22 danielpbarron do you have the private key or not
12:22 liquidassets I wanted to come here and tell you guys, also updated my twitter
12:22 mats lol
12:22 mats do go on
12:22 liquidassets No i don't have my private keys from coinbase
12:22 danielpbarron oh then you didn't get it yet :/
12:23 danielpbarron withdraw!
12:24 liquidassets that's what she said...yes sir
12:24 ascii_field why would anyone let btc sit in a 'gox' for a millisecond longer than necessary ?
12:25 lobbes ^ I get paranoid with .25 sitting somewhere outside my control, can't imagine 80 BTC O.o
12:26 mike_c I used to use it as a hot wallet. keep a bit there for access from anywhere. never more than i was willing to lose
12:31 mats that was so much better than i expected
12:32 jurov looks like imma put hefty premium on my btc dealings with americans :D
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12:33 liquidassets that sux, oh well
12:34 liquidassets not like we're ground zero on this political fight
12:40 BingoBoingo !up liquidassets
12:41 BingoBoingo Of course, we're ground 3
12:41 BingoBoingo Infinitely more grounds than zero
12:41 liquidassets I guess I don't know what jurov means by that, I still have pride as an American
12:42 liquidassets ground 3?
12:42 fluffypony gay pride?
12:43 liquidassets lol, sure fluffypony gay pride
12:44 liquidassets what is a measure of a country? mircea_popescu around?
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12:44 trinque eh, it had a good run, but the golden age is long since past and was far too short
12:44 trinque hm, nevermind, that's not even a good run
12:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25756 @ 0.00034149 = 8.7954 BTC [-]
12:48 jurov heh i meant if it's so hard to get btc, set higher sell price
12:48 liquidassets It was a Hollywood movie for sure
12:48 liquidassets I could probably get btc no problem...plenty of ganja dealers trying to offload
12:49 liquidassets It feels like now I"m dealing with drug dealers, whereas before I didn't have to
12:50 liquidassets but then again, that is why I"m here...for the WoT
12:51 liquidassets I'd still like to have a bank, but the WoT seems very powerful, unstopable.
12:52 liquidassets ;;gettrust liquidassets
12:52 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user liquidassets to user liquidassets: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=liquidassets&dest=liquidassets | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=liquidassets | Rated since: never
12:52 lobbes !gettrust liquidassets
12:52 assbot Trust relationship from user lobbes to user liquidassets: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=lobbes&to=liquidassets | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/liquidassets/
12:52 liquidassets !h
12:52 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
12:52 mats you should walk away if the other person indicates criminal intent
12:53 mats generally, anyway.
12:53 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
12:54 liquidassets Ha! how would they indicate? not if they're a very good drug dealer
12:54 ascii_field liquidassets: traditional usg entrapment op
12:54 liquidassets exactly, unsavory
12:55 liquidassets thing is, as it stands, I have to outright AVOID it
12:55 liquidassets everyday I play this, I know that you know that I know that you know bullshit
12:59 liquidassets this entire area's economy, where I'm at, mostly has been sustained through lots of liquidtide with bleach
13:01 liquidassets !UP liquidassets
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 105 @ 0.0162 = 1.701 BTC [+]
13:05 thestringpuller !t h rent
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.01620000 / 0.0162 / 0.01620000 (125 shares, 2.02500000 BTC), 7D: 0.01450002 / 0.01570442 / 0.01699900 (448 shares, 7.03558160 BTC), 30D: 0.01450002 / 0.01630866 / 0.01700000 (1298 shares, 21.16864560 BTC)
13:13 danielpbarron !up liquidassets weird that you get your bitcoin *from* the drug dealers and not the other way around
13:13 danielpbarron that means their customers are paying in bitcoin? I know the typical drug user and they don't have any bitcoin
13:14 danielpbarron makes more sense that the dealers want to *get* the bitcoin as a way to deal with some of their undocumented wealth
13:14 liquidassets I've ONLY got my bitcoin from Coinbase and maybe a few hundred thousand satoshi from mycelium deals
13:14 ascii_field mycelium deals ?
13:15 liquidassets danielpbarron it was a unique situation here where there were a few dealers who were holding lots of btc from sr
13:15 danielpbarron and you met them in person.. ??
13:15 liquidassets No someone from my meat wot
13:15 chetty fyi, 3 people online at eulora :)
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13:15 liquidassets ascii_field have you seen the mycelium app?
13:16 ascii_field !s mycelium
13:16 assbot 65 results for 'mycelium' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mycelium
13:16 liquidassets it allows you to trade in person. You can post ads whether you're interested in buying or selling btc
13:16 danielpbarron isn't it like the uber of bitcoin trading?
13:17 liquidassets what mycellium danielpbarron?
13:17 danielpbarron yeh
13:17 danielpbarron iphone app where anyone can be an exchange
13:17 liquidassets I suppose it is for me now
13:18 danielpbarron i wouldn't deal with anyone outside my WoT at this point
13:18 liquidassets which is fine, I don't sell much of any btc anyway, but investment creates liquidity and liquidity creates value
13:19 liquidassets I have no WoT lol
13:19 liquidassets ;;gettrust liquidassets
13:19 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user liquidassets to user liquidassets: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=liquidassets&dest=liquidassets | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=liquidassets | Rated since: never
13:19 chetty you are here ----
13:19 chetty hang around, participate :)
13:19 danielpbarron i don't mean strictly limited to what assbot tracks
13:19 ascii_field http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/317tys/psa_warning_mycelium_for_ios_read << l0l, loses wallets ?
13:20 danielpbarron although there is some overlap
13:20 liquidassets danielpbarron have you read gpg contracts? fascinating
13:20 danielpbarron yes
13:20 danielpbarron i use them all the time
13:22 liquidassets chetty 7 months in :) reading logs, happy to be here
13:25 liquidassets danielpbarron It seems I'm only in a position to lead, there are no equals around me to be in my WoT, maybe 1 or 2 people tops
13:25 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
13:25 liquidassets danielpbarron as far as I'm aware there is assbot and there is meatwot, am I missing others?
13:25 shinohai Don't feel bad liquidassets, I haz none either :/
13:26 shinohai ;;gettrust shinohai
13:26 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user shinohai to user shinohai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=shinohai&dest=shinohai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=shinohai | Rated since: Tue Apr 7 10:13:45 2015
13:27 liquidassets shinohai https://youtu.be/22QYriWAF-U
13:28 danielpbarron it's !gettrust
13:28 shinohai lol
13:28 danielpbarron gribble is yet another WoT
13:28 trinque nobody gives out "new blood" anymore?
13:28 shinohai Oh i know, I was calling to gribble, forgot to clarify xD
13:28 trinque liquidassets: shinohai: register keys
13:28 danielpbarron they did
13:28 danielpbarron i rated shinohai
13:28 trinque ah, cool
13:28 shinohai !gettrust
13:28 assbot You need to specify one (or two) nicks.
13:28 shinohai Yeah danielpbarron rated me
13:28 liquidassets they should be there trinque
13:29 trinque !gettrust liquidassets
13:29 assbot Trust relationship from user trinque to user liquidassets: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=trinque&to=liquidassets | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/liquidassets/
13:29 trinque !rate liquidassets 1 new blood
13:29 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ef4a5033cfcff767
13:30 trinque !v assbot:trinque.rate.liquidassets.1:7547f5e26af005e8111840cb2aab25507ef2ee4017db44416f952643d0242f6c
13:30 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for liquidassets with note: new blood
13:30 liquidassets been waiting for that, thanks trinque
13:30 danielpbarron heh
13:30 trinque easy come easy go, as they say
13:30 liquidassets ha hay, ok I'll remember that
13:30 shinohai So who was it that had those mp cult t-shirts
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13:34 ascii_field http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/288C257808D1EDC5CC8AEDE447AF8D1DB224D1C23F309C2A7E06D46F7E6B087F
13:35 mircea_popescu another 29 huh.
13:35 mircea_popescu you really should poison the P with first 10k primes or something.
13:35 ascii_field mircea_popescu: thought about doing that
13:35 ascii_field not hard
13:35 mircea_popescu indeed.
13:36 ascii_field it'll be in the next update.
13:36 mircea_popescu kinda what my "universal keys" idea was trying to do, for "well chosen" so to speak small primes.
13:36 mircea_popescu but really there's no excuse not to have the small ones in.
13:36 ascii_field also interesting would be last 10,000 primes.
13:36 ascii_field (within 2^2048 bound, say)
13:36 mircea_popescu which incidentally is not THAT hard to compute
13:36 ascii_field aha
13:37 mircea_popescu ascii_field listen, can you add a json for the stats which outputs url of newest found pore ?
13:37 mircea_popescu then we can get will dunne to add it to scoopbot.
13:37 ascii_field hm good idea
13:37 * ascii_field will have to actually look up how this works
13:38 ascii_field this is literally the only working www gizmo i ever wrote
13:38 trinque heh! lucky you
13:39 mircea_popescu trinque i read his stuff for curiosity, i was so wtf'd. "this doesn't look like www code..."
13:39 trinque better if he doesn't absorb the braindamage
13:39 ascii_field it was written in great haste, and a little crufty, yes
13:39 ascii_field could easily be half as long
13:40 trinque I'm busy crafting a shit-spelunking suit out of parenscript for future web endeavors
13:40 mircea_popescu my mental notes were more on the lines of "o look, it's clear that the author understands what his code does" and "o look, there's actually a reason for this stuff to be here"
13:41 ascii_field mircea_popescu: what else have you been reading, for contrast? winblows src ?
13:41 trinque mircea_popescu: yes, most web code looks like a venezuelan shanty town, parts scrounged from all over, haphazardly bolted or taped in
13:42 mircea_popescu ascii_field ^
13:42 trinque I'm convinced 99% of the industry does not actually know how to code
13:42 BingoBoingo And that is the beter web code
13:43 trinque just knows how to stack overflow and pip install
13:43 mircea_popescu "it works" "can you explain why or how ?" "above my pay grade, i just paste stuff and hit f9"
13:43 ascii_field ah, those.
13:43 * ascii_field has very limited direct exposure to those
13:43 ben_vulpes ˘source of what?
13:43 mircea_popescu we complain about the meagre attempts at natural language shanonizing , but what of the poor computers ?
13:43 ben_vulpes oh le scoop?
13:45 mircea_popescu hm ?
13:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153108 << atm what they're offering is "software updates" that "speed it up" by... not doing it anymore.
13:46 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 15:04:47; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1152859 << wait till they offer hardware accelerators (sold to usg catamites only, naturally)
13:46 mircea_popescu very usglike.
13:46 mircea_popescu "increase your verification speed tenfold by only checking one block in ten!!1 how to make money renting out the space inside your nose!" etc
13:47 ascii_field ahahaha headers-only sync
13:48 ascii_field for some reason i inescapably think of those chinese thumb drives with terabytes of space (how? just loops around a 128M thing)
13:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00035049 = 9.6385 BTC [-]
13:48 mircea_popescu the "after block x only sync because gavin has said magics about block x" is NOT much better.
13:49 mircea_popescu it's just a rougher implementation of the "verify 1 in x" concept.
13:50 mircea_popescu and i will note that the 28 seconds figure is merely an average - plenty of blocks actually do take minutes to check.
13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3963 @ 0.00035106 = 1.3913 BTC [+]
13:50 mircea_popescu for that matter, a maximal 1MB block should be designed and tested against on a variety of systems just to see.
13:51 mircea_popescu but i suspect that common hardware takes well over two minutes to verify a 1mb block full of txn, which is to say 1500 or so of them.
13:52 ascii_field one more reason to bake the thing into hardware
13:52 mircea_popescu (if you do the math, 100 ms for a full bitcoin sig check thing is about where it is)
13:53 ascii_field btw, sig-checking parallelizes
13:53 mircea_popescu ascii_field baking the thing into the hardware is exactly equal to import usg.h
13:53 ascii_field (not in the idiot bitcoind, no. but mathematically)
13:53 mircea_popescu ascii_field yes, but this is the most delicate part of the chicken's spleen.
13:53 ascii_field mircea_popescu: ecdsa in particular ?
13:53 mircea_popescu just, doing it without fucking anything up.
13:54 * ascii_field doesn't grasp why mircea_popescu thinks this to be hard
13:54 mircea_popescu worst case scenario here being where you get it 99.9999% right, and then everyone thinks you got it,
13:54 mircea_popescu and then two yerars later 0.00001% happens and the chain is split.
13:55 ascii_field as if we had anything like certainty that the chain is not splittable -now-
13:55 ascii_field between 0.5.3 and 0.8+ say
13:55 mircea_popescu we have five year's live testing :D
13:56 ben_vulpes i don't think further splits are avoidable
13:56 mircea_popescu eh, 0.8+ is the kindergarten. if it splits the total loss is ~= two fatties and a stray dog.
13:56 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the idea is to try and avoid splits in the actual codebase.
13:58 ben_vulpes (unrelated: http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid)
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13:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00035337 = 5.2299 BTC [+]
13:59 ben_vulpes (communisticism!)
13:59 ben_vulpes i too miss titlebot
13:59 ben_vulpes it provided a nice indexing of links
13:59 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:00 ascii_field ben_vulpes: where did it go? somehow i missed this
14:00 ben_vulpes kakobrekla and williamdunne had a slapfight over titles
14:00 ben_vulpes kako turned them off
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14:00 ascii_field why?!
14:01 mircea_popescu "This isn't an accident: I have intentionally adjusted my teaching materials as the political winds have shifted. (I also make sure all my remotely offensive or challenging opinions, such as this article, are expressed either anonymously or pseudonymously)."
14:01 ben_vulpes ask him, not me.
14:01 punkman iirc title proxy server died
14:01 mircea_popescu lol ok. /me fails to manage to care, or summon any respect or interest, for the opinions of poltrons.
14:02 ben_vulpes "All the old, enlightened means of discussion and analysis —from due process to scientific method — are dismissed as being blind to emotional concerns and therefore unfairly skewed toward the interest of straight white males."
14:02 mircea_popescu yeh titlebot!
14:03 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes in particular i find this schmuck objectionable, and quite worthy of everything coming to him, because much like the thief who's not one bit sorry he stole, and terribly terribly sorry he got caught,
14:04 mircea_popescu his objection entirely reduces to "hey libertards, wasn't it great back when we were opressing the conservatives, you know, those rednecks *rolleyes*
14:04 mircea_popescu instead of now when we're fucking each other in the ass ???"
14:04 mircea_popescu o yeah, totally worthy of intellectual sympathy this, trotksy raped by stalin's gonna get all my walmart cards.
14:06 BingoBoingo !b 3
14:06 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0SZ7EYJ.txt )
14:06 mircea_popescu they didn't seem to care all that much about "discussion and analysis" or "due process" or "scientific method" back when those were pointing and laughing at their idiocy, from global warming to fad cures to the whole heap of dumb they live in. but now, suddenly... they wish to be saved by the icons of some sort of wisdom that they never had anything to do with, not anymore than the pigeons shitting on statues are part
14:06 mircea_popescu of marbled antiquity at any rate.
14:07 mircea_popescu the fate of the us libertard is ~exactly~ what it was going to be, except fifty years ago they laughed at "o that could never happen" with all the imberbity of idiocy, and today they're all "nobody could have foreseen"
14:08 mircea_popescu i hope he gets fucking burned at the stake, for his guild - the greatest guilt that there can be - choosing to be a cog in the wrong machine.
14:08 mircea_popescu hitler at least was wrong. this guy - he's the pinnacle of evil, unredeemable and unworthy of redemption.
14:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64550 @ 0.0003462 = 22.3472 BTC [-] {3}
14:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153117 << that is a particularly inapt characterisation of the fellow.
14:19 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 15:08:54; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153062 << what ideas did he have, other than liking the smell of money ?
14:19 mircea_popescu he was a congress poland jew, fully imbued of the entire "messiah will come if we garden the shit out of this world" stuff that resulted in the gassings
14:20 ascii_field 'tikkun olam' (TM) ?
14:20 mircea_popescu (yes dear chitlins, there is deep philosophical disagreement behind the entire jew massacre - it's not the conveniently packaged "acts of an unhinged mind". german idealism and jewish materialism clashed, and the jews lost.)
14:21 mircea_popescu ascii_field the grandfather of that.
14:21 ascii_field afaik that's what they actually called the doctrine
14:21 mircea_popescu at any rate, the guy's notions of HOW EXACTLY one'd go about fixing the world are what's at issue. much like a large swath of reform retards - in both judaic sects, xtianity and mainstream - he was the mechanicist persuasion.
14:21 ascii_field 'repair the world'
14:22 mircea_popescu which is to say - do not swear, spit or ejaculate insite , go to heaven.
14:23 mircea_popescu ascii_field you have to understand : the phrase as such is mostly used as a certain jew-libertard term of art.
14:23 mircea_popescu it existed, with a slightly different intension, in medieval kabbalism
14:23 ascii_field iirc it goes back to 16th c.
14:24 * ascii_field not expert
14:24 mircea_popescu but the concept that informs herr meir is one node up from the medievalist thing as noted
14:24 mircea_popescu which is why i said "grandfather"
14:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.00035338 = 18.8705 BTC [+] {2}
14:30 mircea_popescu in any case, hollywood pre meyer is https://cinenthusiast.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/joan-blondell.jpg and the molls. post-meyer it's "angels with dirty faces" and "You're Andy Hardy! You're the United States! You're the Stars and Stripes. Behave yourself! You're a symbol!" and then everybody loves raymond and... "to our current period of time"
14:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10925 @ 0.00034493 = 3.7684 BTC [-] {2}
14:32 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
14:34 trinque hm I'm starting to consider an in-wot paid IRC host
14:34 trinque for those without bouncers
14:34 mircea_popescu can't hurt.
14:36 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153127 << what could possibru go wrong.
14:36 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 15:27:41; ben_vulpes: they want me to scan in my passport and upload it to their secure portal.
14:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153149 < lol you had a banking relationship ?
14:38 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 16:08:14; liquidassets: received an email today that they have decided to sever our banking relationship
14:38 mircea_popescu you being the bank, i presume ? as they... aren't ?
14:39 mike_c my fking computer just died.. couple pops and started belching big smelly clouds of smoke.
14:39 liquidassets I suppose in my own mind..?
14:39 mircea_popescu ftr, i didn't follow the logic of that entire conversation.
14:39 mircea_popescu mike_c what srsly ?
14:39 mike_c yeah, never had that happen before.
14:39 mircea_popescu 80% it's the power supply
14:39 mike_c i guess the power supply went bad..
14:39 mircea_popescu anyway, air that shit out. it's toxic.
14:40 mike_c no visible damage to anything, so can't imagine it was a hard drive, and it was a lot of smoke
14:40 mike_c really? great.
14:40 mircea_popescu o shit, the old days when drives actually had mechanical failures of the mechanical sort.
14:40 mircea_popescu like busted wheels. with dented casings and whatnot
14:40 mircea_popescu if anyone wonders why the 20mb maxtors were encased in fucking steel armor... well...
14:40 liquidassets If I buy my bitcoin from coinbase then it follows that they'll allow me to sell to them and deposit dollars into my bank account
14:41 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153368 < false, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-05-2015#1143760
14:41 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 18:00:41; ben_vulpes: kako turned them off
14:41 assbot Logged on 22-05-2015 18:06:39; kakobrekla: thats cause mp/cp fucked up one of his servers
14:41 mircea_popescu oh is this because when i had to move server ?
14:41 mircea_popescu wouldja rather dig into fixing it or just have scoopbot do it kakobrekla ?
14:42 kakobrekla moved server, broke log1, made log2 work then it went broken with varnish
14:43 kakobrekla fix log1 and titles will work
14:43 mircea_popescu hm.
14:43 mircea_popescu how's the "Broken with varnish" thing go, i didn't actually keep that thing
14:44 thestringpuller liquidassets: if you buy from coinbase you end up on like 5-6 different watch lists
14:44 thestringpuller and if you sell to coinbase the local LE shows up at your door
14:44 liquidassets I anticipated that, we all are as Americans
14:44 mircea_popescu "fugitive disentitlement doctrine" ahahaha that's rich. incidentally - it's how england became a dutch colony, they "deemed the king to have abdicated by fleeing"
14:44 kakobrekla well, "Apr 28 16:33:36 <mircea_popescu>yes varnishing brb"
14:45 liquidassets that's fine, watch me, is my response
14:45 kakobrekla that was while i was working on log1 and thats the last i heard from you.
14:45 mircea_popescu kakobrekla oh i'm sorry. service was briefly interrupted because the fucking beast kept needing apache restarted. but i'm done fucking with it.
14:45 mircea_popescu was done that same day, apparently failed to properly announce ?
14:46 liquidassets Everything is sourced I'm not the one ML
14:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83982 @ 0.00035436 = 29.7599 BTC [+] {4}
14:47 liquidassets mircea_popescu question directed at me?
14:47 mircea_popescu nope.
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68661 @ 0.00035203 = 24.1707 BTC [-] {6}
14:49 kakobrekla ill look into in a tad later.
14:49 liquidassets thestringpuller I don't want to care about it anymore, I just want to document
14:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153190 << poor guys.
14:51 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 16:32:37; jurov: looks like imma put hefty premium on my btc dealings with americans :D
14:51 mircea_popescu like the soviets in the 80s, turks sold them all sorts of banal shit at 130-150% because ...
14:52 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153200 << how exactly is the us "a country" ? is this from the obama "country of africa" doctrine ?
14:52 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 16:44:03; liquidassets: what is a measure of a country? mircea_popescu around?
14:53 liquidassets I don't follow, is that a slight because his ancestry is closer to africa than yours, or are you arguing that he wasn't born in the United States?
14:54 mircea_popescu i am saying that one should have to be about as clueless as obama to imagine the us a country. how is it a country ?
14:54 mircea_popescu it's about as much a country as the soviet union would have been, if it were run by quisling.
14:55 liquidassets I don't know, it FEELS like a country to me, has boarders, armies, laws etc..
14:55 mircea_popescu aha. so maybe it's really a cock
14:55 mircea_popescu it FEELS like a cock to plenty of people.
14:55 liquidassets yea but who's cock?
14:55 mircea_popescu africa's, apparently.
14:55 liquidassets LOL
14:56 liquidassets doubtful
14:56 liquidassets so there are scales of countries? mircea_popescu
14:58 mircea_popescu if you're gonna call something a country, you'd best have a definition of what that means. apparently your definition's all feeling, in which case... what's to say.
14:58 mircea_popescu you can feel anything you feel like.
14:58 liquidassets So please mircea_popescu define it for me
14:59 liquidassets I mean it's where I was born, there's politics and rules which seem to change or evolve over time
15:00 liquidassets there's the constitution and bill of rights, we have the dominate world reserve money supply
15:00 mircea_popescu you mean, United States the Maternity Hospital, as in country ?
15:00 chetty liquidassets, or lately its more like overnight
15:00 mircea_popescu qhahaha what!
15:01 mircea_popescu so wait, "we" do ? are you sure the people holding the money are aware you're including yourself ? got a license for it ?
15:01 liquidassets We have our constitution interpreted by supreme court laws..
15:01 mircea_popescu and moreover, bitcoin's the dominant word word money word, whatever you mean by those.
15:01 liquidassets When I use the word "we" I mean, I cannot remove myself as a US Citizen
15:01 liquidassets fuck yea mircea_popescu I'm with you on that
15:02 mircea_popescu my clothes have a bank account. inasmuch as they can't get off me and i have a bank account :D
15:03 liquidassets mircea_popescu yea which is why my next "moves" are to be determined
15:04 chetty you can stop admitting it liquidassets , I claim everything but when I can :)
15:04 liquidassets mircea_popescu are you saying that you need a license to hold money?
15:05 mircea_popescu i am saying that while some people in the us have some money, your association with them seems tenuous. it's always a good idea to ask THEM if they feel "we" towards you. obviously you feel "we" towards them.
15:05 mircea_popescu what exactly has yellen done to make you think it's a "we" ?
15:06 liquidassets mircea_popescu I am TAXED
15:06 mircea_popescu so is the sheep.
15:06 mircea_popescu "we the sheep herd" ?
15:06 trinque "wait, there's a hierarchy in the USA? surely not!"
15:07 * trinque admits that this struck him far later in life than it ought
15:08 mircea_popescu trinque kinda hard to see past all the schoolyard verbiage and the "requests for public comment" and whatnot.
15:08 mircea_popescu or, to quote mayer again, "Listen to me! I don't care what you do in private. Just don't do it in public. In public, behave. Your fans expect it."
15:08 liquidassets Definitely a hierarchy in the US but until I get to lizard hitler I will be unsatisfied
15:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153237 << win.
15:10 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 17:15:38; chetty: fyi, 3 people online at eulora :)
15:10 mircea_popescu liquidassets who are ye anyway ?
15:11 liquidassets an individual on the internet
15:11 liquidassets salesman by trade
15:12 liquidassets I deal propertay
15:12 mircea_popescu mmmkay...
15:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72300 @ 0.00035063 = 25.3505 BTC [-] {2}
15:14 liquidassets you don't seem satisfied...I don't know mircea_popescu I don't know what I am,,ok?
15:14 mircea_popescu ok.
15:15 mircea_popescu i would propose to you that's an excellent definition of a country : that place where young adults know who they are.
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15:15 mircea_popescu they get their father's name and something their mother picked, this is meaningful in a country and meaningless in a prison.
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15:16 liquidassets I guess I can be a lot of things, who I am is kind of a mystery,, at least to me
15:16 mircea_popescu right.
15:16 liquidassets ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 GPG contracts and wants to know where the fuck 100 satoshi went. Trilema.com Consistent, powerful.
15:16 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
15:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109168 @ 0.00033813 = 36.913 BTC [-] {5}
15:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153291 << actually... this is an idea...
15:19 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 17:30:48; shinohai: So who was it that had those mp cult t-shirts
15:19 mircea_popescu i'm gonna send one to my mother!
15:19 mircea_popescu who had made the things ?
15:20 shinohai I want one. The world needs a good cult to fight r/bitcoin, and you *do* look interesting on a shirt.
15:20 mircea_popescu shinohai there's also http://trilema.com/2013/rng-board-is-here-cute-shirts-bonus/
15:23 shinohai The cute bonus is very nice.
15:26 nubbins` thanks, i generally don't take photos w/ it tucked anymore
15:26 nubbins` but figured i'd make an exception
15:29 mircea_popescu lawl
15:29 liquidassets http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-06-2015#1153509 <<like,, I say "my name" and the heavens open up?
15:29 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 19:15:48; mircea_popescu: they get their father's name and something their mother picked, this is meaningful in a country and meaningless in a prison.
15:29 mircea_popescu somethinglikethat.
15:29 liquidassets Ha ha ok,, sweet
15:32 mircea_popescu !up shout-user91
15:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83350 @ 0.00032844 = 27.3755 BTC [-]
15:40 lobbes <shinohai> ..and you *do* look interesting on a shirt. << move over, che guevara
15:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20182 @ 0.00032844 = 6.6286 BTC [-]
15:42 liquidassets before I take off for the day, can anyone share how you authenticate, so as to produce a rating?
15:43 lobbes !h
15:43 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
15:45 lobbes if you have upped yourself, then you are already 'authed' enough to leave a rating
15:46 liquidassets ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 GPG contracts and wants to know where the fuck 100 satoshi went. Trilema.com, Consistent.
15:46 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
15:46 lobbes still must decrypt OTP from assbot for the rating however
15:46 liquidassets lobbes didn't return a otp
15:46 lobbes also, try '!'
15:47 lobbes not ";;"
15:47 liquidassets !rate mircea_popescu 2 GPG contracts and wants to know where the fuck 100 satoshi went. Trilema.com Consistent.
15:47 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/6db4cdcd5e0bc8f7
15:48 trinque liquidassets: ;; is gribble, ! is assbot
15:48 liquidassets assbot:liquidassets.rate.mircea_popescu.2:b30375d51d7913085960b892b1cb8f818bd3168c05ea19399cecc93977a75881
15:48 trinque liquidassets: stick a !v in front
15:49 liquidassets !v assbot:liquidassets.rate.mircea_popescu.2:b30375d51d7913085960b892b1cb8f818bd3168c05ea19399cecc93977a75881
15:49 assbot Successfully added a rating of 2 for mircea_popescu with note: GPG contracts and wants to know where the fuck 100 satoshi went. Trilema.com Consistent.
15:49 liquidassets ty
15:52 liquidassets Have a great day #b-a see y'all next time
15:52 trinque adios
15:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53582 @ 0.00035685 = 19.1207 BTC [+] {3}
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00032748 = 10.4302 BTC [-] {2}
16:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00032498 = 9.3269 BTC [-] {3}
16:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00033097 = 1.3901 BTC [+]
16:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.00032441 = 6.8288 BTC [-]
16:39 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:39 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/29D4AB4C1D200C86FB06AB27CA9C38448622E11D3107C3A23E06C538C85B2CD0
16:40 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:40 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu not in magic-98 pattern
16:40 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:40 thestringpuller no eulora for ascii_field
16:40 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu or at least one of the mods - wasn't
16:40 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:40 ascii_field thestringpuller: believe or not, i do not actually own a machine which could run it.
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3022 @ 0.00033097 = 1.0002 BTC [+]
16:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58545 @ 0.00032277 = 18.8966 BTC [-] {5}
16:55 ben_vulpes apt-cache madison ??? what the hell.
17:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22916 @ 0.00033818 = 7.7497 BTC [+] {2}
17:05 thestringpuller my disbelief is more in you playing video games in general
17:05 thestringpuller ascii_field: derives pleasure from reading circuit schematics
17:06 ascii_field thestringpuller: i set up a strict msdos box not long ago, mainly for games
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17:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00033952 = 4.0573 BTC [-]
17:47 kakobrekla title parser is back online
17:48 mike_c http://bitcoin-assets.com/
17:48 assbot #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AL2pnU )
17:48 mike_c nice!
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18:06 mircea_popescu 64424509455 eh
18:06 mircea_popescu 4294967297 * 3 * 5
18:07 mircea_popescu i think this is 5's first time.
18:08 mircea_popescu yay thanks kakobrekla
18:08 kakobrekla welcome
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18:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49900 @ 0.00031947 = 15.9416 BTC [-] {2}
18:29 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRm3ezx4BLg
18:29 assbot Jack Warner Bloopers 1954 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iiux4o )
18:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00032159 = 10.5482 BTC [+]
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34423 @ 0.00031781 = 10.94 BTC [-] {2}
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14621 @ 0.00031699 = 4.6347 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20893 @ 0.00031699 = 6.6229 BTC [-]
18:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70002 @ 0.00032236 = 22.5658 BTC [+] {2}
18:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81417 @ 0.00031718 = 25.8238 BTC [-] {3}
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19:18 mircea_popescu !up Avenged2
19:18 mircea_popescu !up williamdunne
19:18 Avenged2 Whats up people how you chilling?
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.00031645 = 3.6234 BTC [-]
19:18 nubbins` terminally
19:18 Avenged2 Whats up people how you chilling?
19:19 nubbins` terminally
19:19 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbpgtpvBLU1qfvizao1_500.jpg something like that.
19:19 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1dNd731 )
19:22 Avenged2 meowmix081 in the house
19:25 ben_vulpes meowmix808andheartbreaks
19:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71417 @ 0.00031596 = 22.5649 BTC [-] {2}
19:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85928 @ 0.000315 = 27.0673 BTC [-] {3}
19:34 BingoBoingo !up STRML
19:46 * asciilifeform for the first time in his life, encountered a defective... jumper.
19:46 asciilifeform srsly wtf 11111!111!!!!!
19:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00031409 = 8.5904 BTC [-]
19:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40050 @ 0.00031323 = 12.5449 BTC [-] {2}
20:01 jurov https://www.facebook.com/pages/Eulora/1439975486317739 likelike :D
20:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1M66Bix )
20:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88600 @ 0.00033001 = 29.2389 BTC [+] {4}
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20:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44230 @ 0.00032501 = 14.3752 BTC [-]
21:00 kakobrekla deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1YXPBWJ.txt
21:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1cytlf2 )
21:00 deedbot- accepted: 1
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21:18 mircea_popescu jurov ahaha nice
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58436 @ 0.00032452 = 18.9637 BTC [-]
21:20 mircea_popescu in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdhzbobfoW1qfpdc0o1_500.gif
21:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmFzG4 )
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21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132804 @ 0.00032436 = 43.0763 BTC [-] {2}
21:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133946 @ 0.00032815 = 43.9544 BTC [+] {2}
21:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91767 @ 0.00033298 = 30.5566 BTC [+] {2}
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22:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194882 @ 0.00032952 = 64.2175 BTC [+] {2}
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3425 @ 0.00033834 = 1.1588 BTC [+]
22:36 mod6 ;;bc,stats
22:36 gribble Current Blocks: 359312 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1551 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 46426119555.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -2.4448
22:38 decimation ugh vox.com makes me want to throw things
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 12195 @ 0.00111 = 13.5365 BTC
22:45 decimation asciilifeform: how cheap does shit have to get to have to resort to making defective jumpers?
22:45 decimation I swear one day electronics will be made of pocket lint and dust
22:48 decimation https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155617891025177 < look at that, sheryl sandberg wrote a eulogy for her husband (in which she talks about herself)
22:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1SXgV1E )
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90193 @ 0.00032463 = 29.2794 BTC [-] {2}
22:54 hanbot decimation it's a eulojournal. yoga funerals are prolly next.
22:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00032143 = 7.3607 BTC [-] {2}
22:55 decimation hehe
23:03 decimation !up gernika
23:04 gernika Howdy. Sorry for all the joins/parts. Gotta get znc up again.
23:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104372 @ 0.00033841 = 35.3205 BTC [+] {2}
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5828 @ 0.00033935 = 1.9777 BTC [+]
23:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75100 @ 0.00033935 = 25.4852 BTC [+]
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33695 @ 0.00032043 = 10.7969 BTC [-]
~ 15 minutes ~
23:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31895 @ 0.0003241 = 10.3372 BTC [+]
23:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101992 @ 0.00031831 = 32.4651 BTC [-]
23:42 decimation asciilifeform: did you bolt mod your model m's?
23:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.0003183 = 11.6498 BTC [-]
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