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00:03 grubles ?
00:03 grubles ohai mircea_popescu
00:04 joecool grubles
00:04 joecool wat
00:04 grubles wat wat?
00:04 mircea_popescu heya
00:07 grubles joecool, ?
00:07 KRS-1 Hi.
00:08 joecool grubles: ?
00:08 grubles you wat'd me
00:09 joecool grubles: wat
00:10 grubles stahp!
00:10 grubles and buy my mpex acct
00:10 joecool how much you want to sell it for
00:10 grubles pm
00:22 KRS-1 so this is the new high
00:22 KRS-1 heh
00:22 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
00:22 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.00011, Best ask: 116.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.48888, Last trade: 116.48900, 24 hour volume: 175921.25091255, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 137.46000, 24 hour vwap: 118.66396
00:23 Chaang-Noi im happy with 116
00:23 Chaang-Noi honestly think its too high
00:24 Chaang-Noi i just hope we dont ever go under 50 again
00:26 mircea_popescu seems unlikely.
00:26 Chaang-Noi yeah
00:27 Chaang-Noi but im pretty sure we will see double digits again
00:27 Chaang-Noi this bubble bull seems over, maybe not but seems we got to wait a while for the next huge run up
00:33 grubles lol well which is it goat
00:34 Chaang-Noi i think we will slowly trend down for a while until we find stable
00:34 Chaang-Noi have no idea what that is, and i might not be right
00:34 Chaang-Noi im not god you know:)
00:34 Chaang-Noi i just hope that finnish guy send me that 100k usd for the 134$ price muhahahah
00:35 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i bet you he won't.
00:35 mircea_popescu at which point scammer tag ?
00:35 Chaang-Noi that was the point of this
00:36 Chaang-Noi he has 2 weeks
00:36 Chaang-Noi from monday
00:36 jcpham scammer tags are tossed around on the forums like they mean something
00:36 jcpham narcs narcing narcs
00:37 Chaang-Noi ill still have a thread. the point was to have him prove he is a "player"
00:37 Chaang-Noi i honestly thought he would turn me down but he said he will do it
00:37 Chaang-Noi he is either a troll or just fucking crazy, or high
00:37 jcpham i watched 2 people report each other to admins over bullshit in a thread today like it meant something
00:37 jcpham he deleted my posts
00:37 Chaang-Noi if he is a troll we will find out soon enough
00:38 Chaang-Noi i wont report to an admin, ill just make a thread
00:38 jcpham i'll make a thread too
00:38 Chaang-Noi i just want to prove that he is a troll, or i get 100kusd
00:38 jcpham it will be my first one
00:38 Chaang-Noi its win win for me
00:38 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23001 BTC [-]
00:39 Chaang-Noi go cognitive:)
00:39 grubles just wondering but how are people trading with you still goat
00:39 Chaang-Noi what do you mean how?
00:39 Chaang-Noi dont you know how bankls and btc works?
00:39 grubles after all the pirate and tygrr stuff and whatnot
00:39 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 12 @ 0.23 = 2.76 BTC [-]
00:39 Chaang-Noi lol im not pirate, and paid in fuill all my insured shit
00:39 jcpham ;;gpg info Chaang-Noi
00:39 gribble No such user registered.
00:39 Chaang-Noi i was a ppt
00:39 jcpham see grubles
00:39 jcpham it's that easy
00:40 mircea_popescu <jcpham> narcs narcing narcs <<< this
00:40 grubles you never gave pirate the id info for your ppt peeps right?
00:40 jcpham that's how i feel about the forum in 3 words
00:40 Chaang-Noi no one has made a scammers thread aginst me but some nefario perv who did it cuz i said nefario was a scammer, but after a week he apoligized and took it down
00:41 jcpham that's what i mean forum scammer tags don't mean shit
00:41 jcpham if you had on otc key
00:41 Chaang-Noi grubles one i never had it, and even if i did, i would need the concent of the people before i passed that info on
00:41 grubles the forum in general doesnt mean shit
00:41 jcpham we'd have fucked it all up by now
00:41 mircea_popescu grubles pumping pirate was something everyone except me did.
00:41 Chaang-Noi anyway that finish guy claims to have sent me 100k usd with no escrow
00:41 mircea_popescu you're late tagging giga, too, for that matter.
00:41 mircea_popescu and whoever else, take your pick.
00:41 grubles pumping in what way exactly?
00:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2896 BTC [-]
00:41 grubles vouching for him?
00:42 mircea_popescu pumping is pumping.
00:42 Chaang-Noi well people were saying i was helping pirate but i was really helping theymos, he asked for me to do it, to help his glbse stock price
00:42 dub cee pee in the blockchain news dropped yet?
00:42 grubles like penis pumping or what??
00:42 mircea_popescu what, running his ppt is bad and that's it ?
00:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8188 @ 0.00068748 = 5.6291 BTC [+]
00:42 jcpham i was there in the btcst thread with Chaang-Noi
00:42 mircea_popescu dujb
00:42 Chaang-Noi yes dub its just links right? who cares :/
00:42 mircea_popescu dub not yet
00:42 jcpham theymos asked for an invite and no one referred him
00:42 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23001 BTC [+]
00:42 jcpham so goat made a ppt
00:42 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 16 @ 0.23 = 3.68 BTC [-]
00:42 dub Chaang-Noi: fox is gonna care
00:43 mircea_popescu ya well they're not smart enough yet.
00:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.29 = 7.74 BTC [+]
00:43 Chaang-Noi jcpham i refured theymos, pirate just did not accept fast enough
00:43 jcpham so should've referred theymos
00:43 jcpham that's funny
00:43 Chaang-Noi dub fox, muyhahahaha lol
00:43 jcpham he didn't trust theymos then
00:43 grubles referred theymos for what?
00:43 jcpham because he responded pretty fast
00:43 grubles a btcst acct?
00:43 jcpham to me
00:43 Chaang-Noi jcpham theymos asked me to refur him, i did, then theymos did not want to wait and asked for the ppt so i did
00:44 jcpham ijs
00:44 dub ;;ud refur
00:44 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=refur | simply to "fuck" normally used to refur to the anal region.
00:44 Chaang-Noi yeah theymos asked me to get him a btcst account
00:44 mircea_popescu lol
00:44 jcpham it is so funny
00:44 dub was expecting greatness
00:44 jcpham in retrospect
00:44 mircea_popescu jcpham mostly to me but yeah.
00:44 Chaang-Noi theymos wanted to pump his glbse stock and get dividends
00:44 Chaang-Noi i was like fine
00:44 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40002 BTC [+]
00:44 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-]
00:44 jcpham no one is legit.
00:44 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-]
00:44 jcpham no one.
00:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.400001 = 0.8 BTC [-]
00:45 mircea_popescu i still have the logs of the -onepercent doods getting all hot under their collar about it lol.
00:45 Chaang-Noi then it went sideways and theymos did not do the right thing
00:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.400001 = 1.2 BTC [-]
00:45 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi o, you did right ? it's just theymos' fault is all.
00:45 jcpham except me. 129% legit
00:45 grubles are you still after pirate legally Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang?
00:45 Chaang-Noi fault for pirate? no
00:45 Chaang-Noi but theymos did not do what was right in all of this.
00:45 grubles i heard you had a "contract"
00:46 Chaang-Noi grubles after the SEC come in my lawyer said to wait
00:46 mircea_popescu i like this guy, he has the mentality of an asian prostitute.
00:46 jcpham i got all sorts of logs and "contracts"
00:46 jcpham i think pirate's irc nick was a team of people now
00:46 grubles Chaang-Noi, wait what?
00:46 jcpham irc was a team if you ask me
00:46 jcpham not just a single person
00:46 mircea_popescu hey, is my irc a team ?
00:46 grubles i dunno
00:46 jcpham don't think so based on your hours
00:46 grubles jcpham
00:46 Chaang-Noi the SEC was doing an investigation
00:46 mircea_popescu hm.
00:47 Chaang-Noi now they have witnesses lined up
00:47 grubles jcpham, what makes you think it was more than one peep?
00:47 jcpham hours
00:47 Chaang-Noi tehy asked me to be one but i never responded.
00:47 jcpham weird times i'd message him
00:47 grubles Chaang-Noi, why not you dingus
00:47 jcpham i may be wrong
00:47 jcpham but especially towards the end
00:47 grubles weird times like when
00:47 Chaang-Noi grubles the SEC siad the ppt might not be safe, lol
00:47 jcpham 2am?
00:47 grubles 4 in the morning or something?
00:47 grubles oh
00:47 grubles well shit ive been up way past that
00:47 Chaang-Noi so why go in and tell them something so they can arrest my ass? lol
00:48 jcpham point taken grubles
00:48 Chaang-Noi even so im not a big fan of govt regulation
00:48 grubles and tx is only an hour or two behind est
00:48 jcpham mircea_popescu send -pr in here to talk shit
00:48 jcpham i think i'll spot it she talk long enough
00:48 grubles Chaang-Noi, why would they arrest you
00:49 grubles i still think -pr is actually mircea
00:49 mircea_popescu nah
00:49 Chaang-Noi they said ppt operaters might get some shit for doing that,
00:49 dub some of the time it is
00:49 jcpham tone is unmistakeable
00:49 dub you can tell
00:49 mircea_popescu dub problem is different people can tell different bits.
00:49 Chaang-Noi grubles they wont arrest me but they might try to take my fiat
00:50 Chaang-Noi honestly even so im not sure i would ahve talked to the SEC, im nota big fan of govt regulation
00:50 Chaang-Noi and also it would ahve got nefario and theymos involved and well at the time did not think that was a good idea
00:50 Chaang-Noi looking back, fuck theymos, lol
00:50 grubles i thought you had 50,000 bitcoins invested with pirate
00:50 Chaang-Noi lol no
00:50 grubles i remember you boasting about it
00:51 Chaang-Noi my account had close to 50k in it
00:51 grubles #btcst
00:51 Chaang-Noi but they were not all mine.
00:51 jcpham Chaang-Noi you converted to a trust?
00:51 Chaang-Noi but anyway even if i did the SEC thing and they did not fuck with me, think i would get anything back?
00:51 Chaang-Noi i would have been a trust account if we got that far
00:51 mircea_popescu no you wouldn't get anything back.
00:51 Chaang-Noi but he shut down fist
00:52 Chaang-Noi yeah mp so why go work for the govt?
00:52 jcpham i never felt comfortable with other people's money
00:52 KRS-1 so I'm seeing a falling wedge which indicates an overall rising price
00:52 KRS-1 looking at 30 day
00:52 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi yeah.
00:52 jcpham disclosure: i had funds of three toher people in-and-out
00:52 grubles at the very least you could help send pirate to prison and/or help him get the shit fined out of him
00:52 Chaang-Noi well i told people where it was going and they knew the rules, that is why no one called me a scammer
00:52 jcpham everyone was repaid
00:52 jcpham it's funny how downstream the lending went
00:52 jcpham magical interest from defaltionary coins
00:52 dub heheh
00:52 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0
00:53 Chaang-Noi pirate will get his once things calm down and the sec goes away, there are many many people after his ass...
00:53 mircea_popescu i guess it's time to link that.
00:53 KRS-1 which is a reversal..
00:53 dub defaultionary coins
00:53 grubles tldr
00:54 grubles am i the only fucking person doing anything about this
00:54 mircea_popescu what are you doing ?
00:54 jcpham probably
00:54 Chaang-Noi no there are other witnesses working with the sec now
00:54 dub hrm smaller AM div this week
00:54 jcpham what would you like for me to do grubles
00:54 mircea_popescu dub odd, didn't they get a lot from selling chips ?!
00:54 jcpham call the sec about the 300principal, 1300 interest coins or so i lost
00:54 jcpham that i gave to someone else and believe existed
00:55 dub mircea_popescu: yeah, more hashing too
00:55 dub 0.00735415 this week
00:55 Chaang-Noi thing is im not so sure priate has much of anything left
00:55 grubles so what dude
00:55 Chaang-Noi my effort is trying to get my coins from mt gox from bitcoinica
00:55 jcpham i don't care now i just want to kill him or hurt him
00:55 mircea_popescu dub so what's the word ?
00:55 grubles jcpham, lol
00:55 jcpham money doesn't matter anymore
00:55 grubles thats fucked up
00:55 dub bird
00:55 jcpham so
00:56 dub is the word
00:56 Chaang-Noi there are a lot of rich bitcoiners now who want to hurt pirate
00:56 jcpham a lot of people should die
00:56 jcpham not my problem
00:56 Chaang-Noi im pretty sure one of them will do something sooner or alter
00:56 grubles the dipshit doesnt realize i hosted btclending.com back in the day
00:56 mircea_popescu lmao.
00:56 jborkl AM kept 2000 back for reinvestment upcoming
00:56 Chaang-Noi but really pirate knows that, he much be a scarred pussy right now
00:56 mircea_popescu "i'm sure someone else will put the work in sooner or later"
00:56 jcpham if i see him i'll shoot at him
00:56 jcpham for sure
00:56 jcpham i'm not fond of liars
00:56 grubles ive spoken with numerous guberment peeps
00:56 mircea_popescu jborkl a they provisioned for the next batch ?
00:57 jcpham and he got me good
00:57 dub mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184
00:57 grubles specifically the collins county DA's office
00:57 jcpham i'll shoot him in the foot for you then grubles
00:57 Chaang-Noi grubles any of the govt people going to do anything?
00:57 jcpham they can catch him limping
00:57 jborkl yes.from what i understand next batch is funded
00:58 jcpham or one of those rabbit traps with a carrot
00:58 grubles lol dude you know itd be stupid for me to condone that shit in words on the gd internet
00:58 jcpham and string
00:58 jcpham yeah i'm just kidding
00:58 mircea_popescu jborkl 2k coins is like 1/4 mn or w/e. pretty cool.
00:58 jcpham i'd never advocate violence
00:58 jcpham unless stole a lot of money from me by lying to me
00:58 grubles i know but some people are stupid
00:58 Chaang-Noi 15th is still on track says firedcat, fucking awesome
00:58 grubles i had 1k btc as principal
00:59 jcpham i'm osrry
00:59 jcpham it's gone now
00:59 jborkl massive USB stick miner release and upcoming orders i am guessing
00:59 grubles 12-13k eventually over time
00:59 jcpham fudge
00:59 grubles well
00:59 Chaang-Noi i lost my money with pirate but i did not lend more than i could lose, i realize how silly it was and well, lesson learned
00:59 grubles it was paper money
00:59 Chaang-Noi he is only about the 20th person who has scammed me
01:00 grubles i probably withdrew way more than 1k over the course of btcst
01:00 jcpham principal is all that existed
01:00 Chaang-Noi grubles then if you took more than you got in the govt can take that from you
01:00 grubles and that was back in $2 days
01:00 Chaang-Noi just like the maddof pervz
01:00 grubles if i took more than i got?
01:00 grubles what does that mean
01:00 jcpham i've walked away from because the only real money was on the blockchain
01:00 Chaang-Noi if you make 1200 and lost 1000 the govt can and will take that 200 from you
01:01 jcpham like all those paypal buys grubles
01:01 jcpham i should be pissed at you
01:01 jcpham for selling me nothing
01:01 jcpham but i'm not
01:01 grubles whatchu talkin bout
01:01 jcpham does that make sense
01:01 mircea_popescu grubles you never withdrew anything ?
01:01 Chaang-Noi <grubles> i probably withdrew way more than 1k over the course of btcst
01:01 jcpham like when i'd buy coins from your account
01:01 mircea_popescu a ok. so then...
01:01 jcpham and they'd get transferred to my
01:01 jcpham account
01:01 Chaang-Noi he took out more than he put in, and he is telling that to the govt, facepalm
01:01 jcpham that was all fake
01:01 grubles oh gotcha
01:01 grubles jcpham,
01:02 jcpham see what i mean?
01:02 grubles yeah facepalm im being honest
01:02 jcpham yeah
01:02 Chaang-Noi are you willing to give that extra to the govt?
01:02 jcpham so i've moved on now
01:02 grubles unlike some peeps in here
01:02 jcpham the principal and what existed on the blockchain is all that ever be proven
01:02 jcpham anything else is imaginary pirate math
01:03 grubles i suppose
01:03 Chaang-Noi grubles do what you want but if pirate gets charged they will then go after people like you who made money on this and try to get it back, they did it to madoff
01:03 mircea_popescu ^
01:03 jcpham you can see if you made money or not
01:03 jcpham it's on the blockchain
01:03 mircea_popescu methinks grubles didn't think this whole thing through
01:03 grubles lol im 24 years old
01:03 jcpham deposit address/withdrawal addres
01:03 jcpham subtract the difference
01:03 mircea_popescu there's a thing called clawback
01:04 grubles right
01:04 mircea_popescu if you deposited 1k, withdrew 1.15k and consider yourself a victim
01:04 grubles trust me ive got it covered
01:04 Chaang-Noi clawback, that is the word i was looking for
01:04 mircea_popescu you're good for 150 btc * 100 = 15k
01:04 jcpham i moved on because of that
01:04 mircea_popescu or w/e the price ends up being
01:04 grubles obv this shit is complicated
01:04 jcpham according to the blockchain i lost
01:04 grubles as we all know
01:04 Chaang-Noi see people whgo lost money can sue you grubles for the money you made in civil court
01:05 grubles ok so what is considered "lost money"
01:05 mircea_popescu "A pupil shall be permitted to participate in sex-segregated school programs, and activities, and facilities, including athletic teams and competitions, and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil’s records."
01:05 jcpham my definition is anything depostid not returned
01:05 Chaang-Noi i thin this is why the govt is having such a hard time, cuz the govt wants to charge everyone involved (or take their money) so no one is helping them
01:06 mircea_popescu dude back in my day i didn't have to claim i feel like a girl to hang out in the girls' locker room.
01:06 grubles returned in what though
01:06 grubles btc? usd?
01:06 grubles "the govt" as in who exactly
01:06 grubles SEC?
01:06 jcpham blockchain
01:06 jcpham btc
01:06 jcpham funds went in via blockchain
01:06 grubles the SEC is only concerned with bullshit investment opportunities
01:07 jcpham they left via blockchain
01:07 jcpham so they care about promised interest
01:07 grubles as soon as pirate started attracting investors he started pissing in the wind
01:07 jcpham good luck
01:07 Chaang-Noi the SEC i think is being used to gather info, who will then p[ass it along to fbi and what not
01:07 Chaang-Noi the sec does do that you knopwq,...
01:07 grubles no
01:07 Chaang-Noi well they do,
01:07 Chaang-Noi they even told me that when they wanted me to be a witness
01:08 jcpham my talks with pirate were about keeping coins off the market
01:08 Chaang-Noi in the e-mail
01:08 grubles p. moustakis, head attorney, submits info to a committee which then reviews it
01:08 jcpham purposefully raising the price
01:08 jcpham i should shut up
01:08 Chaang-Noi grubles if you are claiming the sec never shares info with the fbi and other departments, i lulz at you
01:08 grubles oh i dunno if they do or not
01:09 grubles they probably do
01:09 Chaang-Noi its a fact they do
01:09 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.0;all
01:09 jcpham a still think any entity that can keep coins off of exchanges in an organized fashion is winning
01:09 mircea_popescu this thread is pretty epic.
01:09 jcpham hedge fund/pirate fund/ whatever
01:11 grubles pirate spoke about a 'client' that fucked him over
01:11 grubles probably bullshit
01:11 grubles but
01:12 grubles id like to know who that person it
01:12 grubles is
01:12 grubles *
01:14 mircea_popescu urmom ?
01:15 grubles i wish
01:15 mircea_popescu [WTB] ASICMINER share call options
01:15 mircea_popescu lmao
01:15 mircea_popescu god almighty all these muppets.
01:16 grubles whai
01:16 mircea_popescu i think few people realise that the main brake to btc adoption is simply that people are too stupid.
01:16 mircea_popescu all this "o 1mn dollah by xmas"
01:16 mircea_popescu well... if a hundred million people didn't include ninetynine million and change idiots, maybe. as it is... nowai.
01:22 Chaang-Noi grubles might it be that other ponzi umm wtf was it called...
01:22 Chaang-Noi it went tits up same day
01:22 mircea_popescu the irl one you mean ?
01:23 Chaang-Noi yeah
01:23 Chaang-Noi fuck what was the name of it?
01:23 mircea_popescu mmm something or the other.
01:23 Chaang-Noi grubles did you ever hear of that other ponzi?
01:24 mircea_popescu so many of those irl ;/
01:24 Chaang-Noi they were paying out 1.5% a day
01:24 Chaang-Noi pirates wife talked about it on twater
01:24 mircea_popescu ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188933.0
01:24 gribble [WTB] Mail order bride
01:24 Chaang-Noi and they went bust same day
01:24 mircea_popescu win
01:26 grubles oh
01:26 Chaang-Noi PS. I really get high every time I taste good water. Even yesterday EuroTrash though I was drunk (I wasn't).
01:26 grubles something rewards
01:26 Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190912.msg2002016#msg2002016
01:26 Chaang-Noi he gets high on water?
01:27 Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190912.msg1996855#msg1996855 same thread but lol wtf
01:27 Chaang-Noi zeeks rewards
01:27 Chaang-Noi that might have been his client
01:27 mircea_popescu ya that!
01:28 Chaang-Noi mp reads the posts i linked you to
01:29 Chaang-Noi he gets drunk on "good water"
01:29 Chaang-Noi hahahahaha
01:29 mircea_popescu still the tortilla dude ?
01:30 mircea_popescu he's pretty freaky.
01:30 Chaang-Noi finland guy
01:30 jcpham grubles i've interacted with a lot of bitcoiners as have you guys
01:30 Chaang-Noi he says he is the forum troll now
01:30 mircea_popescu "I have the actual ability to keep Bitcoin network and bitcoin price up indefinitely long"
01:30 mircea_popescu etc.
01:30 jcpham it's hard to imagine pirateat40 had some client
01:30 jcpham we haven't found out about yet
01:30 Chaang-Noi i think he is high or a good troll
01:30 jcpham in bitcoin land
01:30 jcpham that is
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
01:34 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi certainly a good troll.
01:34 mircea_popescu maybe the best yet.
01:35 Chaang-Noi well, he might be for real
01:36 Chaang-Noi this might play well for selling silver in finland
01:36 Chaang-Noi he might just be so out of it
01:37 mircea_popescu that's always the hallmark of a good troll.
01:38 Chaang-Noi well i think he might really be trying to be respected and be a playing, but everyone is laughing at him
01:38 Chaang-Noi player
01:38 Chaang-Noi im not so sure he knows what he is doing
01:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2879 BTC [-]
01:40 Chaang-Noi go AM
01:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00068748 = 5.053 BTC [+]
01:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.2879 = 21.8943 BTC [-]
01:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.288 = 12.88 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.288 = 12.88 BTC [+]
01:46 burnside2 got in just in time for divs
01:47 Chaang-Noi :)
01:47 Chaang-Noi i like has dividends
01:49 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i wonder if he now makes some posts going "O here I am the REAL rpietilla this other guy stole my identity
01:50 mircea_popescu actually fuck that. some forum troll should do it.
01:50 mircea_popescu where's atlas
01:50 Chaang-Noi lol
01:50 Chaang-Noi i wonder if people go to findland and no one is there
01:51 Chaang-Noi bfl shipped wtf is this?
01:51 Chaang-Noi more than just the small ones?
01:52 Chaang-Noi burnside2 got the div thanks
01:52 burnside2 woot
01:52 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi link ?
01:53 Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg2002185#msg2002185
01:53 Chaang-Noi its not very full of info
01:53 Chaang-Noi its why i asked here
01:53 Chaang-Noi some people said something about emails as well
01:53 Chaang-Noi i dont know...
01:53 dub they emailed today
01:53 Chaang-Noi what did they say?
01:53 mircea_popescu a ok
01:53 dub asking for confirmation of acceptance to the product changes
01:53 Chaang-Noi ph
01:53 Chaang-Noi oh
01:54 Chaang-Noi well lol
01:54 Chaang-Noi and if we so no we get a refund?
01:54 dub yes, or if you ignore the email
01:54 mircea_popescu haha cute
01:54 Chaang-Noi if you ignor, you get refund? oh lol
01:55 Chaang-Noi so much for them sending extra to make up for it
01:55 Chaang-Noi i hope they get sued
01:55 dub they are
01:55 Chaang-Noi good
01:56 mircea_popescu they are getting ample sued.
01:56 mircea_popescu which i find a little silly, i dunno wtf these people think they;ll do with the judgements.
01:56 mircea_popescu but anyway.
01:57 dub not sure how
01:57 Chaang-Noi ill lol after the make this asll, then say we are getting sued cant ship.. then they mine and keep all btcs
01:57 dub you either agree to accept the new terms and receive altered product
01:57 dub or get refund
01:57 dub I assume this is to avoid gettign sued
01:58 Chaang-Noi can they force give you a refund like a year after you buy something?
01:58 mircea_popescu dub plenty of cases of action.
01:58 dub probably
02:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27 = 2.54 BTC [-]
02:10 Chaang-Noi dub did they say when they would ship the bigger units?
02:11 dub "Shipping of our BitForce SC ASIC miners has begun! "
02:11 inhies but that probably doesnt count for the bitbet on the july date
02:12 inhies since apparently we're basing the specs on the cancelled jalapeno specs?
02:12 mircea_popescu inhies when was the june bet made ?
02:13 Chaang-Noi "The Block Erupter USB sticks passed all the tests and we are about to produce them in quantity."
02:13 Chaang-Noi w00t
02:13 dub thise are stupid
02:13 dub those*
02:14 Chaang-Noi but they will sell, and make my ass rich
02:14 inhies mircea_popescu: the july bet was made 1 month 2 weeks ago (15-03-2013)
02:14 dub inhies: todays email is the first notification I've had from BFL about power usage changes
02:14 Chaang-Noi i need more hookers and blow, i only have enough cash for thenext 20 years
02:14 mircea_popescu inhies rthey hadn't changed their spec midmarch yet had they ?
02:15 damientrog Chaang-Noi, me too...
02:15 damientrog life is so boring without silk roads now
02:15 Chaang-Noi ha, i buy locally
02:15 Chaang-Noi im not going to have drugs sent to thailand, hahaha
02:16 damientrog ah you'd be crazy of course
02:16 damientrog you just go to a pharmacy there
02:16 damientrog and hookers...
02:16 damientrog oh boy
02:16 Chaang-Noi :)
02:16 damientrog wish I were you hehe
02:16 Chaang-Noi :)
02:16 Chaang-Noi i wont lie, life is over all pretty damn good
02:16 inhies mircea_popescu: im just referring to that thread where the specs that are used are apparently from 2012
02:17 mircea_popescu well those were their specs.
02:17 mircea_popescu afaik they changed them sometime late march ?
02:17 inhies for a cancelled product
02:17 inhies they arent shipping jalalpenos
02:17 dub yes they are
02:17 mircea_popescu or when did they actually change them
02:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 34 @ 0.0142 = 0.4828 BTC [+]
02:17 mircea_popescu dub lol basically bfl has found the way to prevent being humiliated by nondelivery bets : create spec confusion.
02:18 Chaang-Noi how did that difficulty 10 million bet work out?
02:18 dub this is at the bottom of todays email
02:18 dub Jalapenos Out the Door
02:18 dub Packaged for its adventure to a new home. Bye Jalapeno! Your owner eagerly awaits your arrival.
02:18 jcpham http://www.thegenesisblock.com/got-a-question-get-in-touch/
02:18 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10475 = 0.2095 BTC [-]
02:18 dub sounds like they're shipping japaenos
02:18 jcpham anyone know who this is
02:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
02:18 jcpham jonathan stacke operates this blog
02:18 mircea_popescu jcpham is this the anti-foundation ?
02:18 Chaang-Noi Difficulty 10,076,293 haha it went over, wow, damn close eh
02:18 jcpham this name is not familiar
02:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2946 = 2.5892 BTC [+]
02:19 Chaang-Noi john smith?
02:19 jcpham nice blog
02:19 Chaang-Noi iv heard it before
02:19 dub inhies: sup?
02:20 inhies dub: wat
02:20 inhies oh the email thing
02:20 inhies fair enough
02:20 inhies i thoguth they werent making that product anymore
02:20 inhies and it was replaced
02:21 inhies but this could just be BFL being stupid woth words again, not sure
02:21 inhies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
02:29 truff1es wouldnt it be awesome to only need 3hrs sleep
02:30 SoulKhan davinci sleep
02:30 SoulKhan try it
02:31 SoulKhan aka polyphasic sleep
02:31 dub uberman schedule
02:31 truff1es no 3 hrs a day
02:32 SoulKhan yeah, also called uberman..
02:32 SoulKhan I think uberman is a bit different
02:32 truff1es could get so much done
02:32 SoulKhan isn't that 6hours and then 30minutes?
02:33 truff1es dunno only just found out about it
02:33 SoulKhan what kind of work are you in?
02:33 truff1es oh no
02:33 truff1es gimme sec
02:33 SoulKhan if it's something you wouldn't be able to take a 20 minute nap.. you'll never be able to sustain it
02:34 SoulKhan ever 4 hours
02:34 mircea_popescu i recall kramer did that.
02:34 truff1es http://www.mmamania.com/2010/5/4/1458410/dana-white-i-literally-require-no sleep
02:34 damientrog I like my 10 hours
02:35 truff1es ok he might do the 3hrs multiple times a day
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02:38 truff1es 10hrs half the day is gone almost
02:38 damientrog his secret might be also a meth addiction
02:39 damientrog jk
02:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00069254 = 22.2998 BTC [+]
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02:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8485 @ 0.00070278 = 5.9631 BTC [+]
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02:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00070625 = 6.1444 BTC [+]
02:39 damientrog I like a good night's rest, 8-10 hours gone, but a clear mind the rest of the day
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02:40 truff1es some people get older and require less sleep, not me
02:40 damientrog how old are you?
02:40 damientrog and do you have children?
02:40 truff1es nope
02:40 damientrog well once you get used to being woken up every couple of hours
02:41 damientrog and I think it's when you're in your 50s or something you start to really decline in sleep
02:41 truff1es i could survive any situation but i wont do it with a smile
02:42 damientrog but I know a guy who practices microsleeps
02:42 truff1es wtf for
02:42 damientrog literally sleeps while waiting at traffic lights for example
02:42 damientrog so he doesn't need to sleep at night
02:42 Chaang-Noi lol
02:42 damientrog to each his own
02:42 truff1es he must have a pocket protector
02:43 damientrog but when he does sleep at night, you really can't wake him up anymore
02:43 damientrog that fucker puts his alarm clock at 5 am
02:43 damientrog we were sharing a hotel room
02:43 truff1es omg he's not gonna live long if he keeps that up
02:44 damientrog guess who got woken up
02:44 damientrog and pissed off
02:44 truff1es lol
02:44 damientrog I read a book about about Fatal familial insomnia
02:44 truff1es i bet he'll finally give in and sleep for like 24hrs or something
02:44 damientrog hen you really appreciate your sleep
02:45 damientrog well he does function as a manager, busting other people's balls
02:46 damientrog but it all seems unhealthy and kind of a bragging thing
02:46 truff1es the body has limits
02:46 damientrog I've done academia research and am a software developer. No way I will produce quality without 8 hrs sleep
02:46 damientrog but probably could bust people's balls 24/7
02:47 truff1es hahaha
02:47 damientrog :)
02:47 truff1es that was a nice jab
02:47 damientrog kinda reminds of a bet they did on TV here
02:48 damientrog the bet was if you could stay awake for 48hrs
02:48 damientrog without nodding off
02:48 truff1es i could do that!
02:48 Framedragger just spent >= 4 hours tracking a bug in an open source library (though, oh yeah i'll shine) only to learn that i should use absolute paths when invoking it. #storyofmylife
02:48 damientrog the guy who won cheated and admitted he took amphetamines
02:48 damientrog hehe
02:48 Framedragger s/though/thought
02:48 truff1es maybe with ease 5 years ago, now might have problems
02:49 truff1es why cheat its only 48hrs!
02:49 damientrog apparently it's not that easy
02:49 damientrog you sleep a couple of mins without noticing
02:49 truff1es Framedragger thats not a bad problem to have imo
02:50 truff1es if u sit at a desk or couch might fall asleep sure
02:50 Framedragger yeah could have been worse for sure :) still.. outcome much less epic than expected :(
02:50 damientrog absolute paths don't sound fantastic though
02:50 Framedragger first world problems iac i suppose heh
02:51 truff1es ya
02:51 Framedragger they don't, and there's a way around it, but i was simply testing out a library
02:51 Framedragger (it's python. python can find its own system path of course etc. still... arrrgh)
02:51 damientrog ah ok
02:52 damientrog I absolutely hate the obligatory __self__ parameter in every method
02:52 damientrog if I recall well
02:52 Framedragger oh wait that's not it.. fuck
02:52 Framedragger yeah, it's just 'self'
02:52 damientrog indeed
02:52 Framedragger it makes sense, but yeah i know
02:52 damientrog everybody knows the explicit self
02:52 truff1es im falling in love with python
02:52 truff1es how often do u use it?
02:52 damientrog any reason to prefer it to ruby?
02:53 damientrog I've only used it 8 years ago or so
02:53 damientrog but it's just another language
02:53 Framedragger depends on domain
02:53 damientrog I can't count the languages I use
02:53 Framedragger it's awesome [biased python programmer]
02:53 damientrog hehe
02:54 damientrog it's named after Monty Python, so there
02:54 damientrog nothing beats that
02:54 Framedragger i like certain metaprogramming aspects of ruby. ruby succeeds in being a more true 'wanna be lispian' kid as opposed to python
02:54 damientrog that's true
02:54 Framedragger and it works, it's really expressive
02:54 truff1es ruby is foreign to me, i see what python can do
02:54 Framedragger the |block| stuff
02:54 Framedragger (i've written very few ruby lines, but yeah)
02:55 damientrog those are closures
02:55 damientrog I've got a lisp background too :)
02:55 Framedragger are they actually called clojures? riight
02:55 damientrog fucking parantheses till you die
02:55 damientrog but brilliant language
02:55 Framedragger i'm one of those who wishes to have had a lisp background.. now i'm only trying to slowly learn on my own :)
02:55 damientrog I actually programmed in scheme more
02:55 truff1es python just seems so well organized
02:56 truff1es nice presentation
02:56 truff1es and works right away
02:56 damientrog I really appreciate the CS uni education I had
02:56 damientrog we got Scheme, Lisp, Smalltalk, and bitfuck C
02:56 Framedragger cool re: scheme
02:56 Framedragger yeah python really gets the job done for many domains. e.g. it's real good for scientific computing (numpy, plotting, speed support from C implementations of the stuff that matters etc)
02:57 Framedragger nice
02:57 truff1es exactly the stuff that matters in life
02:57 truff1es whyd one need anything else
02:57 damientrog my favorite project was to extend the language that our professor made (Pico)
02:58 Framedragger well i'm veeery slowly getting into haskell. i'm all up for "fuck practical things, let's do category theory in programming!!11!"
02:58 damientrog it's a functional lisp like language with a c-like syntax
02:58 damientrog man you learn a lot then
02:58 truff1es that too, i like practical
02:58 damientrog I plastered my walls with all the code
02:59 damientrog those were the days
02:59 Framedragger i can only imagine. was it interpreted or actually compiled? writing compilers is a whole new level of brainfuck
02:59 damientrog interpreted
02:59 Framedragger though rabbit holes everywhere
02:59 damientrog we had to write compilers too
03:00 damientrog I've got my own language on my name too :)
03:00 damientrog a declarative language
03:00 damientrog pretty proud of that
03:00 truff1es explain
03:01 damientrog well we started a spin-off at university
03:01 Framedragger nice :)
03:01 damientrog the product was an engine that does format translations
03:01 damientrog e.g. from one kind of xml to another or sql
03:01 damientrog so you declare the semantics of you schema
03:01 Framedragger ooh sounds delicious
03:01 damientrog and you declared that in Ω-RIDL
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03:02 damientrog so you actually explain in almost natural languages what the schemas mean
03:02 damientrog and then an engine figures it all out
03:02 damientrog and translates your data to any format it understands
03:02 damientrog I wrote the prototype in Ruby
03:02 Framedragger i've seen some ruby code that attempts to do those kinds of things i think. but if you ended up implementing a parser for such a thing, then truly awesome!
03:03 damientrog that was slow as fuck
03:03 Framedragger hah
03:03 damientrog wrote it in Java afterwards
03:03 Framedragger ugh
03:03 Framedragger :(
03:03 damientrog since it needed to be implemented in a service bus and platform independent
03:03 damientrog and yes wrote a parser
03:03 damientrog in sablecc if I recall correctly
03:04 Framedragger is it a published / open source project / is there a repo?
03:04 damientrog it's not open source
03:04 Framedragger ah ok
03:04 damientrog but patent is public
03:04 Framedragger just wondering :)
03:04 damientrog and there are papers
03:04 damientrog this is my real name
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03:04 truff1es i was just gonna say ure gonna be easy to find heh
03:04 damientrog and it's a unique reference to only 1 person on this earth I think
03:05 Framedragger [envy]
03:05 truff1es (not searching just saying)
03:05 damientrog I know
03:05 damientrog mixed blessing
03:05 damientrog at least my first name is pronouncable in English
03:05 damientrog that matters more than you can imagine
03:05 truff1es haha
03:06 Framedragger "My research is centered around the development of a formalism for ontological commitments." - wait, ontological commitments as in analytic philosophy, or something something formal logic?
03:06 damientrog formal logic
03:06 damientrog but that's from long ago though
03:06 truff1es ure putting philosophy into executeables omg
03:07 damientrog yup
03:07 Framedragger (the word 'ontological' has certain connotations for me.)
03:07 Framedragger kk, i'm just randomly browsing through, have work to do, but bookmarking your page
03:07 damientrog yes it does
03:07 truff1es too advanced for me to read but pretty cool!
03:07 Framedragger truff1es: alan turing :)
03:07 damientrog but I'm not taking all the credit
03:07 damientrog most of that shit I learned from my professor then
03:08 truff1es turning test not that great imo
03:08 damientrog main thing to learn is the difference between syntax and semantics
03:08 truff1es let the robots wait another 50 yrs til im dead umk
03:08 Framedragger alan turing basically invented the concept of modern computer and computation
03:08 Framedragger turing test = shit, i agree though :P
03:09 damientrog but he was gay so we basically made his life hell for it
03:09 Framedragger UK made his life hell for it
03:09 Framedragger yeah
03:09 damientrog yeah just generalizing
03:09 Framedragger poor guy. universal turing machine so awesome, life sucked balls
03:09 truff1es sexuality has no business in educational setting..
03:09 damientrog brilliant minds are rarely appreciated at their currenttime
03:10 Framedragger sexuality has business in life :)
03:10 truff1es if he's the best at it, why should it matter
03:10 truff1es unless he was sexing on the job
03:10 damientrog of course it shouldn't
03:10 Framedragger omg so many layers of OT from #bitcoin-assets
03:10 Framedragger he was arrested for it, etc.
03:10 truff1es buttsex has been discussed in here dont worry
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03:10 Framedragger social stigma in UK unavoidable at the time, etc etc
03:11 damientrog unless they start putting penises in the software
03:11 dub ur an Operating Thetan?
03:11 damientrog like I suspected a gay colleague to be doing
03:11 damientrog or maybe it was me
03:11 damientrog or he was screwing with my mind
03:11 truff1es they could put penis in the machines
03:11 damientrog he did UI design
03:11 Framedragger lol thetan as in scientology?
03:12 damientrog I was kind of a team lead
03:12 damientrog and we all went yeah that looks good
03:12 damientrog but then I said, but… it looks like a penis there
03:12 damientrog damn it
03:12 truff1es whoa scientology itc?
03:12 damientrog and then they all saw the penis
03:12 Framedragger haha
03:13 damientrog it's like being told, do you hear that squeeky noise?
03:13 damientrog you never heard it before
03:13 damientrog but since then
03:13 damientrog you won't be able to get it out of your head
03:13 truff1es sure will
03:13 damientrog so he had to redesign a lot
03:13 Framedragger dunno the context, but was probably hilarious + awkward
03:13 Framedragger hah
03:13 damientrog well I found it hilarious
03:14 damientrog I hope he did too
03:14 Framedragger heh yeah you never know, that's the thing
03:14 damientrog well we're still in touch, if I dare to express it like that
03:14 damientrog as in, we still speak
03:15 damientrog online
03:15 damientrog so there's no resentment
03:15 truff1es against the penis machine?
03:15 truff1es im lost
03:15 damientrog agaisnt me letting him redesign UI because I saw a penis in it
03:16 truff1es "An Operating Thetan, then, is one who can handle things without having to use a body of physical means. "
03:16 damientrog and telling him I wanted a UI that made me think of rainbows
03:16 truff1es him being ?
03:16 damientrog a gay guy that worked for my company
03:17 damientrog also quite brilliant guy in UI
03:17 truff1es oh
03:17 Framedragger looks like it could have been nastier :)
03:17 damientrog well he did explain some nasty shit
03:17 damientrog sometimes
03:17 damientrog guess that was my punishment then
03:18 damientrog to hear what he sometimes got up to
03:18 truff1es nerds tend to be gay, he shouldnt have felt the need to design that
03:18 truff1es plenty of penis in the sea
03:19 damientrog yes I have that suspicion as well, in the best research unit of uni 50% was gay
03:19 Framedragger eh, i consider everybody to be on a sexuality continuum, but with very varying positions nonetheless ofc. but yeah no need to bring that stuff to workplace
03:19 truff1es becoming gay from fear of women or lack of women?
03:19 Framedragger or just being gay, cmon
03:20 damientrog I don't mind, it's kind of interesting, but sometimes a bit too much detail
03:20 damientrog spending a week on a gay cruise boat
03:20 damientrog that's all I need to hear
03:20 damientrog I don't need further details
03:20 truff1es haha
03:20 truff1es open work environment, easier ideas flow maybe
03:21 damientrog some of the advice is also hilarious
03:21 damientrog if you ever go to a dark room, whatever you do, don't touch the walls
03:21 damientrog thanks for the advice mate
03:21 truff1es wow
03:21 Framedragger wait why?
03:22 Framedragger or that's the point, wtf?
03:22 damientrog I don't think they clean the walls a lot
03:22 damientrog nuff said
03:22 Framedragger lool
03:22 Framedragger ok
03:22 damientrog okay enough entertainment, gotta do some work
03:23 truff1es nice to know people in the know, u know
03:23 Framedragger likewise
03:23 truff1es yea that was funny
03:23 Framedragger yeah got updated on.. human affairs, can continue work
03:23 damientrog :)
03:26 Chaang-Noi 11,787.70 GH/s Wink
03:27 damientrog where do I dump my coins to be promised I will get some of that?
03:27 mircea_popescu so wait, they finally get to 12th in may ?
03:28 damientrog my worst fear is being on the toilet when DHL delivers my Avalons
03:28 damientrog and be just too late
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03:33 Uglux Where are my dragons.....ehh 55TH ? :(
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05:02 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/
05:02 mircea_popescu data and stuff
05:07 BitHub nice scarface suit
05:08 BitHub not enough data, cant chart it :(
05:10 mircea_popescu hehe. for bitcoinland that's TONS of data.
05:10 Chaang-Noi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94IdL3djJVU hmm
05:11 BitHub i want to try running mpex data through sierra charts
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05:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.00172499 = 6.9 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46610099 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.4622 = 6.4708 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.461999 BTC [-]
~ 18 minutes ~
06:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [+]
06:19 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
06:33 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C110T] 1 @ 0.36168194 BTC [-]
06:33 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0054 = 0.0108 BTC [+]
06:36 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0054 BTC [+]
06:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
06:52 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1064 = 0.2128 BTC [+]
06:55 KRS-1 I'm getting emails from Mt. Cocks from Apr 25 for trades I made...its a little late.
06:59 dub goxxed
07:02 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1064 = 0.3192 BTC [+]
07:06 KRS-1 mtgox did not create their SSL certificate correctly. If you go to www.mtgox.com you will get a cert error. They either did not buy a wildcard certificate or create the request using www.
07:07 KRS-1 no cause for concern though, the certificate is still okay, you can even remove the www from your URL and the error will go away. In either case your data exchange with them will still be encrypted.
07:10 Troic_ asciilife
07:14 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 41 @ 0.003623 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
07:14 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.01442 = 0.0577 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
07:35 MJR_ what up everyone
07:37 MJR_ joh3218
07:40 dub make the next password start with a /
07:40 dub (and a lot longer :)
07:41 dub I think pirate and asicminer is a fair comparison really
07:41 dub we know a lot more about pirate
07:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [-]
08:02 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014288 BTC [-]
08:02 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.0142 = 0.0852 BTC [-]
08:02 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.014 = 0.126 BTC [-]
08:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00174 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 44 @ 0.001749 = 0.077 BTC [+]
08:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [-]
08:19 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.010001 = 0.35 BTC [-]
08:20 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1064 = 0.3192 BTC [+]
08:28 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00301 = 0.1204 BTC [-]
08:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.298 = 2.596 BTC [-]
08:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
08:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31000003 BTC [-]
08:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3 = 6.5 BTC [+]
08:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.299 = 2.598 BTC [-]
09:04 Chaang-Noi here comes 100 :)
09:04 Chaang-Noi sure hope that finish guy really sends me that fiat...
09:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27305 BTC [-]
09:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27304 BTC [-]
09:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27303 = 2.5461 BTC [-]
09:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27302 = 2.546 BTC [-]
09:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.273 BTC [-]
09:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.269 = 6.345 BTC [-]
09:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.2681 = 15.2172 BTC [-]
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
09:25 lippoper ;;next
09:25 gribble target: 127, 130, 136 | updated by OneFixt at May 1 2013, 19:37 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 17 hours, 48 minutes, and 41 seconds ago
09:25 lippoper lol
09:25 lippoper ;;ticker
09:25 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 111.58999, Best ask: 111.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 111.99999, 24 hour volume: 205521.58405264, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 131.00000, 24 hour vwap: 116.42585
09:25 error4733 Bears are pretty inventive : Bear are pretty inventive
09:26 mircea_popescu so mtgox getting raided huh.
09:26 error4733 http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-957375
09:26 ThickAsThieves raided?
09:26 mircea_popescu yeah.
09:26 ThickAsThieves like as in authorities swooping into HQ?
09:26 error4733 check my link
09:26 mircea_popescu yeah.
09:26 lippoper Zimbabwe is broke, so btc is broke
09:26 lippoper nice link
09:26 error4733 haha
09:26 lippoper cool story
09:26 error4733 is 100% bs
09:27 ThickAsThieves zimbabwae thing is bs
09:27 error4733 all
09:27 ThickAsThieves mt gox raided: "This topic has been moved to Trashcan. "
09:28 error4733 bear spread FUD :) bull spread BS ! hard time
09:28 lippoper bulls raise prices, bears lower prices ! hard time already
09:29 lippoper who has a positive earning strategy.py file?
09:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29899 BTC [+]
09:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 1.299 = 23.382 BTC [+]
09:32 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
09:34 lippoper (9:27:03 AM) ThickAsThieves: zimbabwae thing is bs
09:34 lippoper (9:28:08 AM) error4733: bear spread FUD :) bull spread BS ! hard time
09:34 lippoper I think error4733 called ThickAsThieves a BS spreading bull
09:36 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/any-questions/
09:36 mircea_popescu everyone check that one out :D
09:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.3 = 24.7 BTC [+]
09:36 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i am so impressed the forum will try and keep a lid on it. srsly now.
09:38 lippoper http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-966426
09:38 lippoper LMAO
09:39 kakobrekla wtf
09:39 kakobrekla that is fake
09:39 mircea_popescu orly.
09:39 kakobrekla the ireport thingy
09:39 ThickAsThieves lol
09:39 ThickAsThieves that ireport is a personal blog area
09:39 ThickAsThieves not actually cnn
09:39 kakobrekla ...
09:40 ThickAsThieves bitcoin sachs is the same guy that posted the zimbab thing
09:40 kakobrekla lol
09:40 kakobrekla didnt know that
09:40 ThickAsThieves that pic is off police looking at a map or something
09:40 ThickAsThieves trying to find gox?
09:40 ThickAsThieves hehe
09:40 mircea_popescu at the lag engine :D
09:41 ThickAsThieves one cop has a frommers in hand or something
09:41 ThickAsThieves lol
09:41 lippoper it's from a movie
09:41 lippoper lol
09:42 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00148 BTC [-]
09:42 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0014 BTC [-]
09:44 ThickAsThieves here's the image on some wordpress post from 2011
09:44 ThickAsThieves http://allanmcdaniel.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/084.jpg
09:44 ThickAsThieves others from 2009
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4600001 BTC [-]
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.46 = 4.6 BTC [-]
09:47 mircea_popescu seems legit.
09:47 error4733 i put a warning before "bear are inventive"
09:48 error4733 but a fking retard on bitcoin.fr put the zimbab news on front page...
09:49 error4733 priceless ! same when a friend post on facebook a onion link on first degre haha
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5189 @ 0.00071259 = 3.6976 BTC [+]
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5868 @ 0.00071946 = 4.2218 BTC [+]
09:52 pgp2 fucking lag!
09:53 b0n1 omg i think the report thing on can caused the down at the moment
09:53 mircea_popescu hallo.
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00139 BTC [-]
09:53 b0n1 so crazy how easy the market can be influenced
09:53 b0n1 ...
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [-]
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27012 BTC [-]
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2500 @ 0.00109 = 2.725 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27011 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 242 @ 0.00108 = 0.2614 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26209 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00108 = 0.0216 BTC [-]
09:54 ThickAsThieves i dont think those articles influenced much
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26207 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 227 @ 0.00107 = 0.2429 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262057 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262046 BTC [-]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.262011 = 2.524 BTC [-]
09:54 b0n1 what do you think is the reason for the current down?
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.262 BTC [-]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.254 = 3.762 BTC [-]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.253 = 2.506 BTC [-]
09:55 pgp2 brownian motion
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.010097 = 0.2524 BTC [+]
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.252511 BTC [-]
09:56 ThickAsThieves we are coming down because we went up too fast
09:56 ThickAsThieves again
09:56 error4733 definitly not the report but this... : http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
09:56 thestringpuller ;;ticker
09:56 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.92701, Best ask: 106.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07299, Last trade: 106.00000, 24 hour volume: 210750.82541399, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 130.99990, 24 hour vwap: 116.05280
09:56 thestringpuller nice
09:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 789 @ 0.010097 = 7.9665 BTC [+]
09:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 189 @ 0.010098 = 1.9085 BTC [+]
09:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01023 = 0.0409 BTC [+]
09:57 thestringpuller actually there is more bad news out there than good
09:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 18 @ 0.01024 = 0.1843 BTC [+]
09:57 error4733 99 please, the last one in btc history
09:57 thestringpuller we need more reason to buy bitcoins but everyone is fucking up everywhere lol
09:57 b0n1 ;;goxdown
09:57 gribble Error: "goxdown" is not a valid command.
09:57 ThickAsThieves i'm gonna go out on a limb and say 99 wont happen
09:57 ThickAsThieves :/
09:58 error4733 order book can't lie :) 90 easy imo
09:59 ThickAsThieves lol
09:59 ThickAsThieves order book IS lies
09:59 error4733 shuut, i need cheap coin
10:01 Chaang-Noi so i have a back up wallet, made from satoshi client, now i installed it and i dont see my coins, but they are on the block chain, what do?
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00108 BTC [+]
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 124 @ 0.00107 = 0.1327 BTC [-]
10:02 kakobrekla Chaang-Noi run with -rescan
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00105 = 0.0105 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 39 @ 0.00101 = 0.0394 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 26 @ 0.001 = 0.026 BTC [-]
10:02 Chaang-Noi kako i thought so do so i went to the consol and it wont let me
10:02 kakobrekla ??
10:03 mircea_popescu what's "Wont let me" even mean
10:03 pgp2 lol
10:03 Chaang-Noi 21:03:27
10:03 Chaang-Noi 
10:03 Chaang-Noi Method not found (code -32601)
10:03 Chaang-Noi or better yet, how do i "-rescan"
10:03 Chaang-Noi cuz clearly im being dumb
10:04 kakobrekla run bitcoind or -qt
10:04 kakobrekla and pass -rescan as arg
10:04 kakobrekla when you do
10:04 Chaang-Noi -qt
10:04 pgp2 I definately think we will test 100 and prolly go through... not that much coin on the bid...
10:04 Chaang-Noi im in -qt now
10:04 kakobrekla what do you have there windows?
10:05 Chaang-Noi and i typed nothing else but -rescan in consol
10:05 kakobrekla jesus
10:05 kakobrekla close the -qt
10:05 kakobrekla and edit the shortcut you have
10:05 kakobrekla to the -qt
10:05 kakobrekla so it says " -rescan"
10:05 kakobrekla on the end of the filepath
10:05 kakobrekla and run
10:06 ThickAsThieves jesus!
10:07 Chaang-Noi what program should i use to edit it?
10:07 Chaang-Noi yes im very new to linux
10:07 kakobrekla ah your on linux
10:07 pgp2 new two week low...
10:07 kakobrekla run it from console then
10:08 kakobrekla /home/user/.bitcoin/
10:08 ThickAsThieves i see people moving up bids from 100 to 103
10:08 kakobrekla or .bitcoin-qt
10:08 kakobrekla its inthere
10:08 kakobrekla then add -rescan on the end
10:08 error4733 ;;bids 100.5
10:08 gribble There are currently 7838.7088 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.5 USD, worth 800450.060155 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.3266 seconds
10:09 Chaang-Noi no such file or directory :/
10:10 error4733 any idea why BTC E is more expensive than mtgox ?
10:10 mircea_popescu #Nasdaq says it is investigating potentially erroneous trade in $WST. Looks like 1 went thru at $103.80 40 secs after open v current $65.10.
10:10 mircea_popescu lmao. sucks for nasdaq
10:10 kakobrekla Chaang-Noi
10:10 kakobrekla pm
10:10 ThickAsThieves cuz btc-e people dont wanna sell for less
10:11 error4733 10$ spread 2 days ago
10:11 ThickAsThieves ok cmon bounce!
10:13 thestringpuller Holy shit
10:13 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: when did the mtgox news hit?
10:14 pgp2 what news?
10:14 mircea_popescu pgp2 http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/any-questions/
10:15 ThickAsThieves gonna break 100 i guess
10:15 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
10:15 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 99.99990, Best ask: 100.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 100.00000, 24 hour volume: 224841.25107748, 24 hour low: 100.36000, 24 hour high: 130.85000, 24 hour vwap: 115.23849
10:15 ThickAsThieves yep
10:16 pgp2 oh boy
10:16 pgp2 look out below!
10:16 Scrat wtf
10:16 Scrat ;;bids 0
10:16 gribble There are currently 27359138 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14657784.8124 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.1781 seconds
10:16 Scrat where r u bulls
10:17 davout haha this is for real ?
10:17 mircea_popescu i guess we know tomorrow :D
10:17 Scrat ;;ticker --last
10:17 gribble 98.00000
10:17 davout oh god
10:17 pgp2 no real resistance until 90
10:17 davout pgp2: hello!
10:18 thestringpuller mtgox is fucked what the fuck do you people expect
10:18 thestringpuller lol mircea_popescu warned us BUT NO ONE LISTENS
10:18 Bugpowder That japanese cop is reading a book about wine
10:18 Bugpowder LOL
10:18 ThickAsThieves or saki
10:18 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P098T] 1000 @ 0.3659749 = 365.9749 BTC [+]
10:18 mircea_popescu Bugpowder i thought it was a fromthing
10:19 davout oh, the catch is in the "ireport." part
10:19 Scrat By BitCoinSachs | Posted 2013-5-1 下午4:22
10:19 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P101T] 1000 @ 0.39552257 = 395.5226 BTC
10:19 Scrat this is the catch
10:19 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/fjUQX92
10:19 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.P104T] 716 @ 0.42595915 = 304.9868 BTC
10:19 mircea_popescu heh.
10:20 ThickAsThieves $vwap
10:20 mpexbot ThickAsThieves: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xqLN3hus
10:20 MJR_ FINRA has determined to cancel all trades in security West Pharmaceutical Services, Inc. (WST) at or above $69.59
10:20 ThickAsThieves $avg
10:20 mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 115.30
10:20 MJR_ ;)
10:20 thestringpuller Mt. Gox bitcoin exchange may be responsible for the DDoS attacks
10:20 thestringpuller dude this is ridiculous
10:20 mircea_popescu MJR_ https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/329962754540720128
10:22 pgp2 unbelieveable
10:22 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
10:22 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.21000, Best ask: 96.59033, Bid-ask spread: 0.38033, Last trade: 96.21000, 24 hour volume: 230568.96532113, 24 hour low: 97.00000, 24 hour high: 130.85000, 24 hour vwap: 114.82734
10:22 pgp2 either it's fake and will be excellent buying oportunity or it's true and BTC will go to 30
10:22 pgp2 or less
10:23 ThickAsThieves pgp2 what are you referring to?
10:23 mircea_popescu pgp2 indeed.
10:24 Scrat it can still be fake and go to 30
10:24 Scrat huehue
10:24 pgp2 ThickAsTheives; the ireport article
10:25 ThickAsThieves you think this dip is cuz of that?
10:25 Scrat ireport = sea of trolls
10:25 Scrat take it for what it is
10:25 mircea_popescu even the blind bat hits a pole once in a while
10:25 pgp2 indeed they do...
10:26 mircea_popescu [Hiring/Intern] Asset Issuer, News Information Manager, Securities Analyst
10:26 mircea_popescu usagi is hireing
10:27 ThickAsThieves paying in silver shares?
10:27 ThickAsThieves paying (already sold) silver shares?
10:28 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
10:28 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.00000, Best ask: 104.93269, Bid-ask spread: 0.93269, Last trade: 104.93269, 24 hour volume: 237138.69054080, 24 hour low: 96.21000, 24 hour high: 130.85000, 24 hour vwap: 114.35572
10:28 mircea_popescu well paying may be a little iffy
10:29 mircea_popescu but the hiring part is solid
10:29 mircea_popescu </sarcasm>
10:33 MJR_ what is ireport?
10:33 mircea_popescu random "do it yourself" cnn pagwe
10:34 MJR_ link to article?
10:35 error4733 http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-957375
10:37 MJR_ ...
10:37 MJR_ am i missing something?
10:37 error4733 no
10:37 error4733 cashout before tmrw !
10:37 MJR_ either the situation is exactly as is now...or it goes up
10:43 pgp2 ;;bids 50
10:43 gribble There are currently 127125.24 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8980307.51995 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
10:44 pgp2 ;;asks 150
10:44 gribble There are currently 55216.295 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 7421517.62196 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.2228 seconds
10:44 mircea_popescu well no.
10:45 mircea_popescu either it's exactly as now, or it goes up, or it goes down
10:51 jcpham http://highscalability.com/blog/2013/5/1/myth-eric-brewer-on-why-banks-are-base-not-acid-availability.html
10:55 mircea_popescu jcpham yup
10:55 mircea_popescu advanced stuff, but basically right.
10:56 Scrat too bad that's talking about ATMs
10:58 jcpham i like to apply concepts
10:58 Scrat banks do have central DBs. and surprise surprise they are not eventually consistent
10:58 jcpham but yes atms are boring
10:58 Scrat why did he take the article down :p
10:58 mircea_popescu Scrat it was more a historical look, which is accurate, and an in principle review, which also is accurate
10:59 mircea_popescu hence why "reconcile" is a term of art in finance.
11:00 Scrat I guess you can call a system like ACH eventually consistent
11:00 jcpham is bitcoin the national currency of zimbabwe for real?
11:01 jcpham i feel megatrolled
11:02 pgp2 megatrolled... yes...
11:02 lippoper That's the new eveil main character from the new Transformers movie
11:02 jcpham http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-966426
11:02 lippoper MegaTron vs MegaTroll
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
11:04 MJR_ mircea_popescu: my only point was that whether zimbabwe switches to bitcoin or not, neither outcome in my mind is "bad" news
11:04 MJR_ so why would people sell?
11:04 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
11:04 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.00000, Best ask: 96.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 247208.59898683, 24 hour low: 96.21000, 24 hour high: 130.60000, 24 hour vwap: 113.40334
11:05 MJR_ also, the camwhore is amazing
11:05 MJR_ great trader i guess
11:06 damientrog why does cnn whore out its name and reputation like that?
11:06 MJR_ cnn is a whorish network
11:06 lippoper ;;ticker
11:06 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.00000, Best ask: 95.18595, Bid-ask spread: 0.18595, Last trade: 95.18595, 24 hour volume: 250934.34771713, 24 hour low: 94.00000, 24 hour high: 130.55000, 24 hour vwap: 113.12523
11:06 MJR_ you should see the clip from the boston bombing where wolf blitzer keeps saying "cnn is bringing this to you exclusively"
11:07 MJR_ and they were wrong
11:07 damientrog how sick
11:07 MJR_ "we are the only ones reporting this!"
11:07 lippoper CNN has managed to be worse than Fox
11:07 MJR_ which is hard to do
11:07 MJR_ now its all just a bunch of gimmicks
11:07 MJR_ look at our touch screen panel
11:07 MJR_ fuck that, i like journalism, read al jazeera
11:07 damientrog I don't live in the US, so I sometimes can't even begin to imagine what it's like
11:07 damientrog the news
11:07 MJR_ even russia today is better
11:08 damientrog last times I watched tv in states it seemed unreal to me
11:08 damientrog I cannot imagine being constantly in such a blizzard of shit
11:08 MJR_ yah
11:08 damientrog no offence :)
11:09 MJR_ and now...sometimes i go to a site and they will say "we don't accept customers from your country"
11:09 damientrog we're just a little behind here
11:09 MJR_ :( second class citizens
11:09 damientrog you are not allowed to watch this video in your country
11:09 ThickAsThieves 93
11:09 MJR_ yeah
11:09 mircea_popescu MJR_ the post is about mtgox tho
11:09 MJR_ thank god for ssh tunnels and proxying
11:09 MJR_ zimbabwe accepting bitcoins is about mt gox?
11:10 mircea_popescu dude. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/any-questions/
11:10 mircea_popescu that is your referwence. click the links.
11:10 MJR_ AHA
11:10 MJR_ someone gave me the wrong link
11:10 MJR_ i knew i was missing something
11:11 mircea_popescu aanyway. fox news actually owned on the viewer cards for the bombing.
11:11 mircea_popescu it's taking over.
11:11 ThickAsThieves 91
11:11 MJR_ fox news makes me sad
11:12 damientrog The movie idiocracy seems like a prophecy
11:13 lippoper Want some big ass fries with that?
11:14 damientrog EXTRA big ass friees :)
11:14 MJR_ yeah is idiocracy the opposite of meritocracy?
11:15 damientrog the reign of the stupid vs the reign of those who have proven themselves
11:15 damientrog lets check wordnet
11:15 mircea_popescu @nntaleb 1h If someone you never met calls you "arrogant", it means he can't find anything else. Otherwise he would have said "wrong". Heuristic #81
11:15 mircea_popescu gotta love taleb. im keeping this one.
11:16 damientrog bleh meritocracy has no antonym there
11:18 mircea_popescu allow me to interrupt for the gamer chick : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136750785890.jpg
11:20 damientrog damn it
11:21 damientrog there goes my last bit of cocnentration I had
11:22 mircea_popescu you had cock netration ?
11:22 damientrog see what you did
11:22 error4733 This is bitcoin, i belive he was missing ! high: 130.00 low: 91.11 55s lag
11:22 davout mircea_popescu: nice management book
11:24 damientrog and suddenly it went quieet
11:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [-]
11:27 tk993 How much disk space would I Need on a virtual machine dedicated to all things bitcoin? 25gb enough?
11:27 kakobrekla should do for a while
11:27 Doffx Depends on what operating system as well
11:27 tk993 Ubuntu
11:27 Doffx windows you want to start at 25
11:28 Doffx That will be pleanty of space then
11:28 tk993 Thanks.
~ 15 minutes ~
11:44 mircea_popescu tk993 the bitcoin blockchain is about 10gb atm and probably grow 10ish gb a year
11:48 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/ << in case anyone missed it last time.
11:52 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00332 = 0.0332 BTC [-]
11:55 imsaguy "AMC is a business unit of VMC"
11:55 imsaguy great, now who the hell is VMC?
11:56 ThickAsThieves same people
11:56 ThickAsThieves (person)
11:59 imsaguy that's my point
11:59 imsaguy and then we have these people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2006028#msg2006028
12:00 mircea_popescu imsaguy the usagi method.
12:00 mircea_popescu it worked in the past, neh ?
12:02 jcpham profit is boring 1:1 repayment
12:05 ThickAsThieves that furuknap guy is the same one that thinks I should run TAT.ASICMINER with no mgmt fee
12:06 ThickAsThieves well, he said something like .5% if divs at most
12:06 imsaguy I can see certain instances where someone would expect someone to not take a management fee
12:06 ThickAsThieves of
12:06 imsaguy say when they get a board seat that they normally wouldn't have
12:06 mircea_popescu i don't see any case when anyone should do anything for free.
12:07 imsaguy getting the board seat is the perk, not every payment is in currency
12:07 mircea_popescu anyway, sent the girl on the asicminer dood
12:07 imsaguy you should know that
12:07 ThickAsThieves board seat is arguably valuable, and i have already stated any tangible board seat benefits would be split w shareholders
12:07 mircea_popescu imsaguy maybe like that, tho it's always best to take a clear payment than an unclear one
12:07 imsaguy getting a board seat is pretty clear ;-)
12:07 imsaguy specify in the contract
12:07 imsaguy it isn't rocket science
12:07 ThickAsThieves it is in the contract
12:08 mircea_popescu imsaguy it's value tho, how much btc ?
12:08 imsaguy Not everything has an easily calculated value
12:08 imsaguy for example, calculate the value of girl's life.
12:08 ThickAsThieves surely he could come up with a minimum value
12:09 ThickAsThieves starting at least with what he pays her
12:09 ThickAsThieves to do her job
12:09 imsaguy At the very least, the opportunity for insider trading
12:09 mircea_popescu " Roll out the Red Carpet! You received 1 reply from a celebrity! Amazing! " << this klout thing is retarded.
12:09 ThickAsThieves lol
12:09 ThickAsThieves i played with klout a year or two ago
12:09 mircea_popescu imsaguy so what, not like i'm payhing anyone in girl lives.
12:09 ThickAsThieves total social media meta gaming to get you to social media more
12:09 imsaguy hey deadterra
12:10 imsaguy question for you when you're here
12:10 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yup absolutely.
12:11 davout ;;ticker
12:11 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 93.11000, Best ask: 94.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 274284.18541062, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 129.75000, 24 hour vwap: 111.37083
12:11 ThickAsThieves Namworld's gox alarm has been useful this week :)
12:12 mircea_popescu le 90s
12:12 ThickAsThieves for reference http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/
12:13 imsaguy heh
12:14 imsaguy down to $91
12:14 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
12:14 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.00000, Best ask: 92.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 92.00000, 24 hour volume: 274284.18541062, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 129.75000, 24 hour vwap: 111.37083
12:14 ThickAsThieves next stop 85
12:14 ThickAsThieves then maybe more panic and 80
12:15 ThickAsThieves then keep your eye on that mega manipulation floor at 70
12:15 ThickAsThieves if that disappears...
12:17 ThickAsThieves imsaguy, DT is here ^
12:17 Chaang-Noi w00t
12:17 imsaguy ThickAsThieves, the client is
12:17 imsaguy don't know if DT is actively at the computer
12:18 ThickAsThieves could also be a ghost
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.255 = 5.02 BTC [-]
12:24 imsaguy https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554005_150909505084169_1700868551_n.jpg
12:29 mjr_1 ;;ud palin
12:29 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sarah%20palin | name='Description' property='og:description'> <meta content='sarah palin' property='og:title'> <meta content='summary' property='twitter:card'> <meta ...
12:29 mjr_1 ;;ticker
12:29 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.01000, Best ask: 96.21999, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 96.01000, 24 hour volume: 274720.80247070, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 128.00000, 24 hour vwap: 110.65029
12:29 mjr_1 ;;later tell pgp just testing
12:29 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.279 BTC [+]
12:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.28 = 2.56 BTC [+]
12:44 tk993 Is there a way to view my private PGP key? Is there a reason to or is it just stored somewhere on the computer... mainly I want to make sure I exported my public key properly.
12:45 davout gpg -a --export-secret-key
12:46 tk993 Thanks.
12:46 mircea_popescu make sure however
12:46 mircea_popescu you don't compromise it.
12:47 tk993 Header is private key block. for the other it is public key block? Are they different structures or how does it know? Or does it just know? Say for example I sent my public key and kept the headers of the private key... does that not matter because all the information is in the string of characters?
12:47 mircea_popescu you could reverse them if you wanted
12:47 davout gpg -a --export-secret-key | curl -X POST https://paymium.com/ <-- encrypts your key even more securely
12:47 mircea_popescu scam.
12:48 mjr_1 lol
12:48 mjr_1 whats up davout
12:48 mircea_popescu http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2013/05/02/ing-us-kicks-off-2nd-biggest-ipo-13-in-red/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fb
12:48 mircea_popescu they should have used mpex.
12:48 davout mjr_1: nothing much, chilling, having a brew, getting haxxed
12:48 mircea_popescu in the butt
12:49 davout using mpex in the butt, i wouldn't recommend it to friends
12:49 mircea_popescu nono, you getting hacked in the butt
12:49 mjr_1 i don't recommend it
12:49 davout yep, and likewise i wouldn't recommend it to friends
12:50 mjr_1 would you allow a non-bitcoin based business to ipo on mpex?
12:50 pgp2 ?
12:50 mjr_1 obviously they would raise bitcoins, but could convert to dollars
12:50 mircea_popescu mjr_1 i think ing is in a position to ask me to make any exception it wants.
12:50 mjr_1 hehehe
12:51 mjr_1 voya, right?
12:51 mircea_popescu voyacoin
12:52 mircea_popescu o also davout ? http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/internet-story/
12:52 mircea_popescu suffer.
12:53 deadweasel Use existing demo practice patients to demonstrate Canadian content/results (TBD...Matt to decide if we want to add a Canadian patient)
12:53 deadweasel Add logic to display Canadian content based on the URL
12:53 deadweasel if demo.vetconnectplus.com display US-English content
12:53 deadweasel US footer, phone numbers, email addresses, numeric codes in the patient list, etc
12:53 deadweasel if demo.vetconnectplus.ca display CA-English content
12:53 mircea_popescu lol hi mr mischan
12:53 deadweasel god damn docking station
12:53 deadweasel sorryh folkds
12:53 deadweasel docking station switches my mouse buttons
12:53 mircea_popescu in the butt ?
12:54 mircea_popescu http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-966926
12:54 mircea_popescu moar news.
12:55 pgp2 ridiculous story
12:56 mircea_popescu no, because bitcoin.
12:57 b0n1 hello
12:57 mircea_popescu hi
12:58 Framedragger lol re: story, more media exposure for bitcoin i guess
12:59 Framedragger it is acknowledgement in a sense
13:01 davout mircea_popescu: nice tits!
13:01 mircea_popescu kinda small
13:01 davout mircea_popescu: is that what she said?
13:02 mircea_popescu hehe nah
13:02 mircea_popescu speaking of which, when are you back online ?
13:02 mircea_popescu hackers are getting bored.
13:02 davout haha fuck off
13:03 mircea_popescu there's like... new ruby 0days and whatnot, nowhere to use them
13:03 davout well, coinbase
13:03 davout bitfinex
13:03 davout take your pîck
13:04 mircea_popescu coinbase still egzists ?!
13:06 davout we're trying to get xavier niel to make us some colocated space in his not-yet-opened atomic-bunker data center
13:07 mircea_popescu better yet, give him shares
13:07 mircea_popescu a wait, you're not listed. nm.
13:08 davout he's already in line to chip in for our next round :)
13:08 mjr_1 so CNN iReport seems to be as accurate as CNN
13:08 mircea_popescu a that's a good idea then
13:09 davout probably the shortest successful investor pitch ever made
13:09 imsaguy oh hey
13:09 imsaguy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2006597#msg2006597
13:10 mircea_popescu 2mn ?! wow.
13:10 imsaguy it seems AM is finally hitting their original target hashrate
13:10 imsaguy only 2 months late
13:10 imsaguy now they can hit their next goal of triple the original
13:10 imsaguy ::eyeroll:
13:10 mircea_popescu imsaguy when was it originally supposed to be 12th, march ?
13:12 ardeay ;;ticker
13:12 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.09942, Best ask: 102.40143, Bid-ask spread: 1.30201, Last trade: 103.15638, 24 hour volume: 286019.66613392, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 127.00987, 24 hour vwap: 109.79778
13:13 imsaguy mircea_popescu, to be honest, I don't remember the exact date at this point
13:13 mircea_popescu me either
13:13 imsaguy mircea_popescu, I'm surprised your girl passed on this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2006541#msg2006541
13:13 mircea_popescu fucking hell with these people, everyone thinks it's funny to keep changing specs promises etc
13:13 mircea_popescu imsaguy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2006867#msg2006867 ?
13:13 imsaguy mircea_popescu: there are no means to enforcing
13:13 imsaguy well, there are
13:14 imsaguy but nobody has taken it upon themselves to try
13:14 mircea_popescu ;;google gpg contracts
13:14 gribble GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/>; GPG/PGP Basics - A.P. Lawrence SCO Unix Consultant: <http://aplawrence.com/Basics/gpg.html>; [Announce] GnuPG 1.4.13 released - GnuPG and GNUTLS Mailing List ...: <http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2012q4/000319.html>
13:14 mjr_1 4 and a half years for insider trading \
13:14 imsaguy mircea_popescu: your latest link was for a quote from a different user
13:14 imsaguy earlier in the thread than the one I linked to
13:14 imsaguy oh well
13:15 mircea_popescu uya well apparently even her can't keep uo with the idiocy
13:15 imsaguy I'm done trolling it
13:15 mjr_1 lol he made 72 million, got fined 4 million
13:15 imsaguy its like goign into a church and trying to have a conversation
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.279 BTC [-]
13:15 mircea_popescu "I'm truly glad you focus on red herrings, so why don't we make this discussion about accounting instead, then?"
13:15 mircea_popescu red herring don't you know.
13:15 imsaguy mjr_1: he also paid 4.5 years of his life
13:15 mircea_popescu i tell you education is fucking perverse.
13:16 mircea_popescu they keep teaching the peasants how to write, end result is the fucking internet.
13:16 imsaguy is 4.5 years of your life worth 68M?
13:16 mircea_popescu education should be either all the way or not at all. enough of this "literate but still clueless" bs.
13:16 truff1es yes
13:16 mjr_1 lol, and depends on "to who"
13:16 truff1es a human lives to 100 approx these days
13:16 mircea_popescu imsaguy mpoe only took 1.5 and is like 100 or w/e
13:17 mjr_1 to me...i think i would go to jail for 4.5 years for 68 million, maybe
13:17 imsaguy mircea_popescu: simple but he has a point: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg2006958#msg2006958
13:17 davout 4.5 of surprise butsecks? not even for 21M BTC
13:17 mircea_popescu why are you such a faghater.
13:18 mircea_popescu isn't that illegal in teh republique ?
13:18 pgp2 lol
13:18 davout lol no
13:18 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 16 @ 0.1064 = 1.7024 BTC [+]
13:18 imsaguy mircea_popescu: since when do you have to be fag to enjoy butsecks?
13:19 mircea_popescu true
13:19 truff1es lol
13:19 imsaguy because I know a bunch of girl fags
13:19 jborkl poofter
13:19 davout #bitcoin-anal is the place
13:19 mircea_popescu imsaguy true that. i enjoy butt seks all the time, in the butt wrapped around my hard cock sense of the term
13:19 truff1es <davout> 4.5 of surprise butsecks? not even for 21M BTC>>> its just a penis
13:21 imsaguy truff1es, is it?
13:21 taub http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22380603 wow
13:22 ThickAsThieves $3700!
13:22 mircea_popescu kinda yest news
13:22 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
13:22 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 101.97671, Best ask: 102.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.87329, Last trade: 102.85000, 24 hour volume: 287472.57675907, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 126.90000, 24 hour vwap: 109.62469
13:23 ThickAsThieves they wanted to add bitcoin mining as a feature?
13:23 ThickAsThieves sure
13:23 mircea_popescu the amount of lieing about that shit is astounding.
13:24 ThickAsThieves sounds more like, oh we kinda got caught, so lets kinda admit it
13:24 ThickAsThieves maybe theyll also cure cancer
13:24 ThickAsThieves saints
13:26 mircea_popescu imsaguy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192661.msg2006845#msg2006845
13:26 mircea_popescu there.
13:26 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves first it was just a day, then a week, then a tester w/o authorisation etc
13:27 jcpham unauthorized getworks!
13:27 jcpham cause you know they weren't using stratum
13:29 imsaguy mircea_popescu: I give it a 5 on a 10 scale
13:29 mircea_popescu pff
13:29 mircea_popescu show me you doing better
13:29 imsaguy she repeats too much
13:29 imsaguy its like listening to an american pop song
13:29 mircea_popescu because she is talking to idiots.
13:29 mircea_popescu EXACTLY
13:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2795 BTC [+]
13:33 truff1es nothing gets the point across more than calling somone an idiot
13:33 imsaguy whatever, idiot
13:33 truff1es ..
13:33 mircea_popescu nou
13:37 mircea_popescu anyone know exactly how keypoolrefill works ?
13:38 imsaguy you have a pool of pregenerated, but nto displayed addresses maintained by bitcoind
13:38 mircea_popescu yes but i mean cryptographically.
13:38 mircea_popescu is there a limit to the size of the pool that you can refill safely ?
13:38 imsaguy psh
13:38 imsaguy some people keep pools of thousands
13:38 mircea_popescu how exactly does it use the entropy or wtf does it do ?
13:39 imsaguy ask in -dev?
13:39 imsaguy or were you banned there too?
13:39 davout it pregenerates the addies, so it eats entropy when you refill the pool
13:39 mircea_popescu banned ?
13:39 davout imsaguy: lol
13:39 mircea_popescu im notp banned anywhere wtf.
13:40 mircea_popescu davout what's the largest pool you ever refilled ?
13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3482 @ 0.00071946 = 2.5052 BTC [+]
13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 418 @ 0.00072562 = 0.3033 BTC [+]
13:40 davout i usually have a 10k pool
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.1064 = 2.2344 BTC [+]
13:40 davout on user-facing services
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107395 BTC [+]
13:40 davout s/have/had/
13:41 mircea_popescu did you run strength analysis on the keys or any soprt of cryptographic validation ?
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.107397 = 0.4296 BTC [+]
13:41 davout no
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.108999 = 0.327 BTC [+]
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109 = 0.218 BTC [+]
13:41 mircea_popescu my main concern is that the code is probably shit and we'll end up with weak keys towards the end
13:41 mircea_popescu fuck, "the end" may be anything over 6
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13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.109 = 5.45 BTC [+]
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.109996 = 0.88 BTC [+]
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 22 @ 0.109997 = 2.4199 BTC [+]
13:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 139 @ 0.109998 = 15.2897 BTC [+]
13:42 davout well, i don't know the code very well, but i think the address generation part probably relies on openssl
13:42 davout which should behave fine
13:42 kakobrekla i think that is correct
13:42 mircea_popescu o, it's openssl ?
13:43 mircea_popescu blessfully iirc that has no secret OPENSSL_CONFIG files needed.
13:43 mircea_popescu otherwise we'd be in deep shit huh.
13:43 imsaguy parts are based on openssl
13:43 imsaguy but if you try to plug it into openssl, they fail
13:44 davout if we don't have a proper spec by 1.0 i'm out :-)
13:44 davout i'll switch to SpecCoin
13:45 mircea_popescu davout there's no dispute that the neckbeard collective is going away.
13:45 Scrat davout: it does, it never blocks and it is also seeded from /dev/urandom (which never blocks too)
13:45 mircea_popescu so i wouldn't be too worried about that part.
13:45 kakobrekla there isnt?
13:45 davout a specification ?
13:46 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [+]
13:46 mircea_popescu meh i guess i have to have this part read.
13:46 davout that would allow one to build a fully validating implementation ? nope
13:46 davout because "it's complicated"
13:46 davout because "oh, but some of openssl's bugs are now relied upon as features"
13:47 mircea_popescu pssshh
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2795 BTC [+]
13:47 Framedragger re: /dev/urandom: see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3690273/did-i-understand-dev-urandom though
13:47 imsaguy FEATURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13:47 mod6 lol
13:48 Framedragger (first answ)
13:48 Framedragger it's probably fine though..
13:49 Framedragger might make sense to be curling some very long gutenberg ebook txt while generating though heh
13:49 Scrat /dev/urandom uses sha1, if someone can preimage sha1 at will you're in deep doodoo
13:50 Scrat sort of like the people who made gambling machines who used the mersenne twister
13:50 imsaguy whenever my entropy pool is empty, I just pipe in 0
13:50 Scrat which*
13:50 imsaguy its just as good
13:50 mircea_popescu hm
13:50 Framedragger lolz re: 0 :)
13:50 imsaguy nobody would ever suspect 0 as a RNG seed.
13:50 mircea_popescu i bet your passphrase is G0d
13:51 imsaguy nope
13:51 Scrat preimages are hard. even on md5
13:51 imsaguy 42
13:52 Framedragger Scrat might be an interesting exercise heh, though yeah realistically, it's really fine
13:52 Framedragger probably
13:52 Scrat collisions are quadratically easier but useless for predicting future prng output
13:54 Scrat IANAC (iana cryptographer)
13:54 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
13:59 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.1066 = 0.7462 BTC [-]
13:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12045 @ 0.00071572 = 8.6208 BTC [-]
13:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9755 @ 0.00071057 = 6.9316 BTC [-]
14:03 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.01023 = 0.1535 BTC [-]
14:04 mjr_1 i was just discussing password length vs stupid @ symbol instead of a schemes
14:05 mjr_1 making passwords too difficult means i leave sticky note
14:05 mjr_1 2FA or 12+ characters is better
14:05 truff1es i memorize 12+ :)
14:06 truff1es but still prob easy to hack if it is all lowercase right
14:07 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.26 = 0.78 BTC [+]
14:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31189999 BTC [+]
14:08 damientrog after a shitty day friedcat made it all good by providing me with the tracking nr for my asicminer order
14:09 damientrog now I want to make someone else's day shitty by gloating, and it's all good
14:09 truff1es the day started off strong with laughter though
14:09 damientrog yes yes
14:10 damientrog but I still need to deliver some hardcore bugfixes
14:10 truff1es well im almost immune from being jelly so go on
14:10 damientrog clients up my ass
14:11 truff1es then deliver on what client needs ldo
14:11 damientrog I know it's not really a fantastic investment in terms of ROI, more a piece of bitcoin history
14:12 truff1es sure seems like the nerdy/geeky thing to do if u have the funds
14:12 damientrog or a worthless piece of shit in a couple of months
14:12 damientrog but it brings joy to a nerd indeed
14:12 truff1es im sure u could rework it into something worthwhile
14:12 mircea_popescu so good for you.
14:12 damientrog thanks MP
14:13 truff1es like all of those how to make your internet faster tutorials heh
14:13 damientrog that joy will switch to fear and panic trying get the thing working
14:14 damientrog then regret
14:14 truff1es no manual?
14:14 damientrog and then back to baseline
14:14 damientrog sure, but it doesn't look like it will be like a usb stick you plug in
14:14 truff1es lol
14:15 damientrog I'll need to mutilate a PSU to power it up
14:16 damientrog I prefer software, you can always undo your fuckups
14:16 truff1es u will have an expensive toy
14:16 damientrog work hard, play hard :)
14:17 damientrog but I'm gonna take a rest see you guys laters
14:17 truff1es ok enjoy
14:17 damientrog thx
14:18 taub pop pop
14:18 taub ;;goxlag
14:18 gribble MtGox lag is 10.6201 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0212825614914 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
14:19 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 239 @ 0.1 = 23.9 BTC [-]
14:26 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
14:27 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.105001 = 0.63 BTC [+]
14:27 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [-]
14:31 pgp2 ok... so I've been examing the the gox depth messages... I just watched some guy add and remove thousands of .01 BTC quotes from $1 to $3 in $0.001 price increments, creating a shitload of lag doing it - fucking bullshit - why can't gox police their own fucking exchange!
14:32 inhies because thats life
14:32 inhies and thats how exchanges work
14:32 inhies they dont need to police it
14:32 inhies they need to be able to handle the load
14:33 Framedragger yeah this is so fucking insane. it doesn't sound like blocking / restricting mircotrading is even difficult. wtf
14:33 Framedragger any kid can basically manipulate market now
14:33 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C245T] 20 @ 0.05099501 = 1.0199 BTC
14:33 guruvan they should charge for that kind of thing - plenty of real world exchanges do charge for cancellation of unfilled ordres
14:33 Framedragger it's probably writtinen in rails all over the place, it could prob be 100 times as efficient :(
14:34 Framedragger also: multiple exchanges / for different kinds of tradings - gox could block micro trades, others would fill the market. supply and demand, bitch
14:34 pgp2 yep - ECN's charge for excessive messaging
14:34 guruvan gox should learn from them
14:34 Framedragger the issue prob is that gox admins do not come from that kind of background..
14:34 Framedragger sucks
14:35 Framedragger and affects trading big time, grr
14:35 mircea_popescu heh.
14:35 guruvan no shit they don't - almost no one in bitcoin has come from anything other than a geek background
14:35 mircea_popescu guruvan actually most everyone from finance is here.
14:35 mircea_popescu i think geeks may be a minority on this chan
14:36 Scrat im just a css kid
14:36 Framedragger maybe that's why i started lurking here lol
14:36 Framedragger (i'm just a geek kid too)
14:36 truff1es forever alone
14:36 guruvan oh yes - in this channel there might be a difference - lol hang out in any of the other ones ;)
14:36 guruvan -assets doesn't lose it when BTC/"USD takes a shit - the freakout in other channels shows the truth
14:37 jcpham freak outZ!
14:38 Framedragger part of the freakout is obvs sarcastic / intended, but yeah still
14:38 truff1es guruvan more circle jerking goes on itc than elsewhere too
14:39 guruvan yeah - thank god for that - I had to leave other chans because I'm too "offtopic"
14:39 mircea_popescu FREaK!!!
14:39 mircea_popescu out with your tits out
14:40 mod6 heheh
14:40 mircea_popescu o look, mod6 is alive
14:40 mod6 :]
14:40 mod6 was kinda sick earlier this week :/
14:40 mircea_popescu wb
14:40 mod6 thx.
14:41 mod6 omg and it /snowed/ again here yesterday, like wtf!? shit is getting old!
14:41 jcpham mod6 god hates you
14:41 guruvan fuck snow
14:41 mod6 haha jcpham
14:41 jcpham he shits frozen water on you
14:41 mjr_1 I want an army like this .... http://www.asctec.de/uav-applications/research/applications/applications-2/swarming/
14:42 guruvan hopefully you don't measure your typical snowfall in FEET like we do here mod6 (or meters)
14:42 lippoper 1.6k sell wall at 104
14:42 mod6 oh and jcpham, i did get an email about the other 1/2 of my coinabul order shipping yesterday.
14:42 mod6 So... apparently that's happening. Will give another update after I receive.
14:42 jcpham nothing here
14:42 jcpham 14 ounces
14:42 jcpham no contact
14:43 jcpham coingenuity gonna get bitchslapped
14:43 jcpham :)
14:43 mod6 guruvan: well, typically we get a range. its not like mountain snowfall though. sometimes 1-2" sometimes 8-12"...
14:43 guruvan I don't think I'd buy from them after the troubles I've seen
14:43 jcpham guruvan u may be right
14:43 jcpham i've seen and seen and seen too
14:43 guruvan thank god for that mod6 - here I usually see 2-3 ft each snowfall
14:44 truff1es mjr_1 is that some kind of seduction ?
14:44 guruvan jcpham: not to mention that if he can't fill the order refunds come in fiat, not in the original paid BTC price
14:44 mod6 jcpham: ahh, hmm. i placed my orders on the 9th.. my slv one got here pretty quick. but the gld order took until yesterday to ship apparently.
14:45 mod6 not sure if the recent physical gld buying frenzy played a roll in that, or if it was the btc bubble pop that played a roll there. but 60 days i guess is my max limit.
14:45 jcpham i placed my order around $250/ per btc
14:45 mod6 s/roll/role/
14:45 jcpham which was some time ago
14:46 guruvan hmm. yeah - I think I'll buy elsewhere
14:46 guruvan when it's back to $25 a coin
14:46 guruvan $250
14:47 mod6 My silver order was /pretty/ though.
14:47 mod6 So I was pretty happy with that.
14:48 mod6 I usually just pay cash at a local place around here, but when it was @ $260/btc ea. I thought, wth, give these guys a shot and see what happens.
14:51 guruvan the BTC makes it so easy to want to do it that way - but. ...I know I certainly offer refunds to people in the currency they paid me (in the same amount as was paid)
14:52 mod6 Yeah, if I pay in BTC, I demand to be paid back in BTC.
14:53 mircea_popescu The "encrypt wallet" feature in wxBitcoin and bitcoind 0.4.x before 0.4.1, and 0.5.0rc, does not properly interact with the deletion functionality of BSDDB, which allows context-dependent attackers to obtain unencrypted private keys from Bitcoin wallet files by bypassing the BSDDB interface and reading entries that are marked for deletion.
14:53 mircea_popescu lmao
14:53 mod6 whoops lol
14:53 mircea_popescu Unspecified vulnerability in bitcoind and Bitcoin-Qt before 0.4.7rc3, 0.5.x before 0.5.6rc3, 0.6.0.x before 0.6.0.9rc1, and 0.6.x before 0.6.3rc1 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (process hang) via unknown behavior on a Bitcoin network.
14:53 mircea_popescu http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-12094/product_id-22744/year-2012/Bitcoin-Bitcoind.html
14:53 mircea_popescu pretty funnystuff
14:54 guruvan mod6: IIRC he'll refund in BTC, after converting to the now current exchange rate. :P
14:54 mircea_popescu The alert functionality in bitcoind and Bitcoin-Qt before 0.7.0 supports different character representations of the same signature data, but relies on a hash of this signature, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (resource consumption) via a valid modified signature for a circulating alert.
14:54 mircea_popescu ahahaha
14:56 mod6 guruvan: yeah, I'm ok will refunds minus the fees, but not after a conversion to some fiat.
14:56 mod6 I'd probably negrate for stuff like that.
14:57 mircea_popescu things one finds reading noob bashing :
14:57 mircea_popescu for x in $(eval echo {1..10000})
14:58 mod6 It's like, hey, if I place an order, and something fucks up: i.e. can't get delivery, order is cancelled, I'd expect full refund of BTC, perhaps minus small fee.
14:58 mircea_popescu you may be surprised.
14:59 mod6 But I value BTC pretty much higher than most other things that I could purchase with it, which is why I don't spend much of it.
14:59 mod6 well, aside from the trust level.
14:59 mod6 that's always an issue -- too many fucking scammarz.
15:01 mod6 but if i want to pay 2.3 magical swords for your warez, and you can't deliver, I expect to get my 2.3 magical swords back.
15:01 Framedragger haha for echo.. sounds like a php kiddie trying to do bash scripting or sth
15:01 Framedragger bitcoin CVEs yeah, it's funny when folks claim there've been no vulnerabilities
15:13 mod6 I've been crazy busy though trying to keep up with work and btc-land stuff. I made few line changes to the vwap & depth perl scripts for bitotter last-night. And I've been testing some changes to the trade script (bitotter.pl) for about 2 weeks, just making sure all works good before the next checkin with that.
15:14 mod6 As far as the android app, I've been working on the encryption stuff, which has been going ok -- did a bunch of code clean out etc.
15:15 mod6 smickles & thestringpuller signed up to help but they're too busy or w/e so I think I'm just back to on-my-own on that one.
15:15 mod6 I'm pretty excited because I think I finally am getting some sound changes in there for the encryption piece.
15:17 mod6 I looked through the APG and that thing is pretty awesome. But too bad it just can't do what we need for now. It'd be great if another droid app could just call enc() or dec(), shovel it some data and a key id and get back what you need, but it doesn't do that kidna thing yet.
15:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29994 BTC [+]
15:17 mod6 So I'm on the roll-your-own type deal for now. Still fun to work on though when I have time.
15:18 mod6 Contracts that I'm doing now are pretty much teh sux.
15:18 ThickAsThieves TAT.ASICMINER is now live! https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER
15:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29995 BTC [+]
15:19 mircea_popescu wd
15:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+]
15:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308 BTC [+]
15:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3089 BTC [+]
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
15:22 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1066 = 0.3198 BTC [+]
15:23 dub ThickAsThieves: still buying AM?
15:24 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1099 = 2.198 BTC [+]
15:27 ThickAsThieves dub, depends how the next few days ago
15:27 ThickAsThieves i bought a lot
15:27 ThickAsThieves and lined up more
15:27 ThickAsThieves but if things go well
15:27 mod6 mircea_popescu: that girl making .9 BTC was awesome btw lol
15:27 ThickAsThieves i will def be looking for more offmarket sellers
15:31 mod6 o and also, many lulz I had reading that one guy from finlands "open diary" or whatever the hell it is..
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 89 @ 0.1099 = 9.7811 BTC [+]
15:33 jcpham mod6 he's serious
15:33 jcpham he deleted all of my comments that were troll-worthy
15:34 jcpham he means business about his supernode
15:34 mod6 HAHA
15:35 jcpham so now after re-reading that thread
15:35 jcpham i think i understand nothing of finnish culture
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.4804 = 7.206 BTC [+]
15:36 jcpham language/ideas/whatever
15:36 mod6 that guy looks like Moby
15:37 mircea_popescu mod6 yeah srsly. awesome chick
15:37 mircea_popescu jcpham i agree. the finns are pretty badass.
15:38 jcpham now that i realize he is serious i feel confused about my own ideas
15:39 jcpham his thread makes me feel like less of a man
15:39 mircea_popescu aghaha what
15:41 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136747439634.gif
15:41 mircea_popescu water based engine
15:42 ThickAsThieves they look kinda like horsies wagging their tails
15:42 mircea_popescu uyou got it
15:47 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1099 = 0.4396 BTC [+]
15:48 mircea_popescu @CharlieShrem 55m WOW! 2.5% of ALL #Reddit #Gold was purchased via #Bitcoin Good work #Coinbase
15:48 mircea_popescu um... 2.5% ? srsly ?
15:48 mircea_popescu lol
15:49 Ukto New feature added to bitfunder assets. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg2008531#msg2008531
15:50 mircea_popescu can;t hurt.
15:51 Ukto It was mostly done months ago.
15:52 Ukto took 20 min to make it usable
15:52 jamborambo so, how low do you think BTC will go this weekend?
15:52 Ukto still have to enable the sorting, and categories
15:52 mircea_popescu 90s
15:52 Ukto $1's for a week I hope. ;) but not likely
15:52 jamborambo i'm sort of thinking $60's. no?
15:53 mircea_popescu i don't think so.
15:53 kakobrekla http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
15:53 kakobrekla asks on the rise
15:53 pgp2 if it breaks ninety, we could see low 80's, but i think 90 will hold... for now
15:54 jamborambo cool, where can you get those depth charts. are they free?
15:54 pgp2 that is a great chart, btw - I look at it all the time
15:54 kakobrekla theres a bunch of charts on differenet sites
15:55 mod6 http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u7ql0/
15:55 pgp2 orkaa has some nice ones
15:55 mircea_popescu lol supernode
15:55 kakobrekla moby lol
15:55 mircea_popescu this is totally wagner v2.0
15:56 mod6 haha he looks insane with that silver suit on
15:56 mircea_popescu all he needs to do is come out as gay. kinda hoping he will for great drama.
15:58 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0135 = 0.135 BTC [-]
15:58 ThickAsThieves maybe i should open a fractional supernode asset
15:58 ThickAsThieves for the peasants
16:03 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 250 @ 0.1 = 25 BTC [-]
16:04 mircea_popescu fractional supercock
16:07 mod6 haha
16:08 mod6 oh and moby apparently gave justin bieber a Casascius coin!?
16:08 mod6 why in the world would you give a fuckwit like JB any satoshi at all?
16:10 mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.msg2008636#msg2008636
16:10 mircea_popescu hiw about that
16:10 kakobrekla saw dat
16:10 mircea_popescu pretty cool
16:10 kakobrekla yup
16:11 kakobrekla i thought the bastards will hide up
16:19 pgp2 here come another slew of thousands of .01 bids < $3....
16:20 pgp2 ridiculously manipulative...
16:21 pgp2 can't they just shut this guy off...
16:21 kakobrekla ;;goxlag
16:21 gribble MtGox lag is 73.186028 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.14666398068 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
16:21 Framedragger lol
16:21 kakobrekla o it works
16:21 pgp2 I have a pretty good idea of how this scam works on gox...
16:22 pgp2 it starts with the price about to break out one way or the other
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 1,795.55981375 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 3591 satoshi per share
16:22 jborkl yeah!
16:23 pgp2 the perp gets into the trend with large market order, with a limit order further out to reverse.
16:24 pgp2 then stacks the book at the bottom to create lag, giving the impression that hugh market buy orders are coming in...
16:24 pgp2 others jump on the band wagon only to execute against his sell order
16:25 mircea_popescu o hey nice, s.dice
16:25 Framedragger has anybody tried this kind of thing on gox? it sounds really doable
16:26 pgp2 well it's certainly doable, but unethical
16:26 Framedragger one could write up a PoC and send it over to gox saying, 'look you are shit, disable this kind of activity like that: a, b, c"
16:26 Framedragger definitely
16:26 mircea_popescu pgp2 let others fucking learn already to give up mommentum trading.
16:26 mircea_popescu every fuckwit on the intenret is a daytrader nao
16:26 mircea_popescu how ?
16:26 mircea_popescu "o its ezzy man just follow eveeryone else"
16:27 kakobrekla hey, if camwhores can do it i can too!
16:27 mod6 haha
16:27 pgp2 lol
16:28 mircea_popescu lol
16:28 davout kakobrekla are your tits bigger?
16:28 mircea_popescu this should be his stage name
16:28 mircea_popescu Bits Tigger
16:28 davout word
16:29 pgp2 excellent porn name
16:30 pgp2 has a certain... ring to it...
16:30 jcpham http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3824848/events/2074798
16:30 mircea_popescu lol
16:35 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
16:36 mircea_popescu @danielleneftin 30 Apr At a BITCOIN millionaires house. Charlie shows me his new BITCOIN-vodka company which happens to be... http://instagram.com/p/Yu79a7Mtq2/
16:36 pgp2 ATM will be DOA - no market for this yet...
16:36 mircea_popescu the chick is a Vice intern :D
16:36 mircea_popescu pgp2 there'd be a huge market, but it's not something random bloke with fiddy bux can touch
16:39 pgp2 agreed - but this solution is too ambitious
16:39 mircea_popescu yeah.
16:39 mircea_popescu agreed.
16:40 mircea_popescu o btw, did you see http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/ ?
16:40 pgp2 much easier for wallet company to team up with a bank to allow one way conversion of bitcoin to cash.
16:41 pgp2 with existing ATM around the world
16:41 mircea_popescu ^
16:41 mircea_popescu exactly.
16:41 mircea_popescu problem is, bitcoin entrepreneur is a geek. doth not want to go out there and get a deal closed
16:42 mircea_popescu wants to lock up in basement and write moar code nobody reads.
16:42 kakobrekla hey im in 2nd floor
16:42 mircea_popescu lol
16:42 kakobrekla cant go higer really
16:43 kakobrekla if i want a roof
16:43 mircea_popescu rates are overroofed. sky's the limit babeh
16:43 dub http://p.bfram.es/finland-be-afraid-be-very-afraid.jpg
16:43 pgp2 the implementation is is too damn complicated - will only appeal to other geeks
16:43 Framedragger um tbh one shouldn't link to cnn's ireport as a credible news source
16:44 optimator mircea_popescu: i think you're projecting... basement... lock up....
16:44 Framedragger imho
16:44 mircea_popescu now that can also be true
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1099 = 0.2198 BTC [+]
16:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00072562 = 6.3492 BTC [+]
16:44 optimator thanks for the link to your architecture post - cool stuff
16:44 mircea_popescu aha ?
16:45 mircea_popescu did the girl link you to something ?
16:45 optimator well mpoe-pr - http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-tech-stuff/
16:46 mircea_popescu ah ok.
16:46 mircea_popescu well... my pleasure then :)
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8801 BTC [-]
17:05 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00172 BTC [+]
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1099 = 5.495 BTC [+]
17:15 jurov !ticker btct bitvps
17:15 assbot [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: 0.001 / 0.00111 / 0.001749 (3539 shares, 3.9 BTC), 7D: 0.00072 / 0.00113 / 0.001887 (3858 shares, 4.4 BTC), 30D: 0.0002 / 0.00113 / 0.00479 (12199 shares, 13.8 BTC)
17:17 jurov ;;calc 1000000*0.001749
17:17 gribble 1749
17:17 jurov meh. and no dividends
17:17 jurov Marketing Strategy
17:18 jurov We are featured on multiple renown services, such as Slush's Pool and clarkmoody.
17:18 jurov Our main selling channel is by word of mouth from happy clients and bitcoin
17:18 jurov websites listing services accepting Bitcoins.
17:19 jurov It's not just you! http://bitvps.com looks down from here.
17:19 jurov RIP bitvps
17:20 kakobrekla but but happy customers
17:20 mircea_popescu grubles was saying they're making decent dough earlier
17:26 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.233 = 0.932 BTC [-]
17:27 Namworld We're in the red currently...
17:28 mircea_popescu i was suspecting something like that.
17:28 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23 BTC [-]
17:29 thestringpuller so is theymos doing an AMA old news yet?
17:29 mircea_popescu jurov hardly means "not at all" you know
17:29 thestringpuller mircea_popescu you should go troll mr. themyos
17:30 Namworld We technically turn a profit, but we bought servers to colocate. So we're in the red until all expenses are paid off.
17:30 mircea_popescu thestringpuller lol. im sure there's gonna be plenty of people doing it
17:30 thestringpuller No man you should see what he's saying.
17:31 thestringpuller tl;dr "I'm a "bitcoin god" ama."
17:31 mircea_popescu what another one ?
17:31 mircea_popescu bitcoin is like the late roman empire, every time some dood farts there's a new god
17:31 mircea_popescu anyway, who said : "The goys have proven the following theorem..." as the first sentence in his math lecture ?
17:34 thestringpuller Uh none that I know of.
17:34 thestringpuller Usually the first sentence in my lecture has been "DO THE HOMEWORK." *400 problems assigned go on the screen*
17:36 Namworld All abandon the Bitcoin sinking ship!
17:37 jurov that's like... there was a paper about proposed quantum computer architecture
17:37 jurov that was supposed to compute all possible outcomes in many universes
17:37 jurov and if the result is not correct, destroy the local universe
17:38 thestringpuller wait what?
17:38 jurov how that destroy part would be implemented, was left as "exercise to reader"
17:38 thestringpuller is that a joke jurov?
17:38 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
17:38 gribble 107.14
17:38 thestringpuller $last
17:38 mpexbot thestringpuller: [21:37:49] <gribble> 107.14
17:39 thestringpuller $ticker
17:39 thestringpuller ugh
17:39 jurov !last
17:39 assbot I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
17:39 thestringpuller !ticker m S.MPOE
17:39 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068342 / 0.00070227 / 0.00072562 (259949 shares, 182.55 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00070794 / 0.00076528 (2430366 shares, 1,720.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00063322 / 0.00069982 / 0.00076528 (10115131 shares, 7,078.83 BTC)
17:46 jurov thestringpuller: no, completely srs: http://www.mathnews.uwaterloo.ca/Issues/mn11103/QuantumBogoSort.php
17:46 jurov "assume an entire universe can be destroyed in O(1)"... mathematicians, ofc
17:47 thestringpuller ...
17:48 jurov coinbr right hand gives and left hand took away (referrals paid out and monthly fees levied)
17:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [+]
17:54 dub the jurov giveth and the jurov taketh away
17:56 Namworld Anyone is holding lots of FTC? I'd like to short the fuck out of em.
17:57 dub well its offical, I am rich
17:57 dub rich with debt
17:57 mircea_popescu wd!
17:58 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: gimme another question to ask theymos
17:58 dub lawyer just emailed, I haz new house
17:59 mircea_popescu thestringpuller well the obvious q is when is he getting golden unicorn server for btctalk off the donation funds
18:06 thestringpuller lol
18:06 ThickAsThieves grats on the house dub
18:07 dub ty
18:07 jurov congrats, too
18:08 jurov btw, i was just asked how my llc shall be named.. and i realized i dont know
18:08 jurov obviously not coinbr, no such obvious connection shall be shown
18:09 thestringpuller you should name it
18:09 ThickAsThieves Pavlovian Enterprises
18:09 thestringpuller Jurov and Associates, Consultancy LLC
18:10 jurov that's too long. maybe Jurov&Ass.Co
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299999 BTC [-]
18:10 jurov why pavlovian? after the dogs?
18:13 mircea_popescu lol jurov & ass.co
18:13 dub how about big balls, small balls, any sized balls, ball bearing co
18:13 mircea_popescu dub : hairy ball bearings co
18:13 mircea_popescu John Q. Tumble, priproetor
18:14 ThickAsThieves Lemmings International
18:15 ThickAsThieves oh geez
18:15 jurov BogoBalls LLC
18:15 HussyAssThieve Dongs.
18:15 ThickAsThieves Yum!
18:15 ThickAsThieves lol
18:15 HussyAssThieve this shows promise
18:16 dub Goxington Heavy Industries LLC
18:16 HussyAssThieve haha
18:16 HussyAssThieve Somewhat Hacked, Inc
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.305 = 2.61 BTC [+]
18:17 dub Butterflay Labes
18:17 HussyAssThieve MeltedWallet
18:17 jurov Zhou&Gox Savings and Trust
18:17 HussyAssThieve Where's Your Coin Now, Bitch?
18:17 ThickAsThieves I like Butterfly Labias
18:17 jurov lool
18:17 HussyAssThieve Butternut Sploosh
18:18 ThickAsThieves Cooler Than 1 Million Bitcoins
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18:18 pgp2 Dewey, Screwem & Howe, LLP
18:18 jurov First Intergalactic
18:18 HussyAssThieve More Fans & Nitrogen
18:19 HussyAssThieve actually fan box llc might do just fine
18:19 HussyAssThieve participate in ces 2014...
18:19 ThickAsThieves NAT ROUTERS INC
18:19 ThickAsThieves obv
18:19 HussyAssThieve lol
18:20 jurov hahaha... automatically eligible for mpex listing
18:22 assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 20 @ 0.0017 = 0.034 BTC [-]
18:24 assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 77 @ 0.00167 = 0.1286 BTC [-]
18:24 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
18:24 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 43 @ 0.003 = 0.129 BTC [-]
18:25 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000656 = 0.0066 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000655 = 0.0983 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000654 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000652 = 0.0065 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000644 = 0.0644 BTC [-]
18:26 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.msg2010084#msg2010084
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000643 = 0.0064 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 191 @ 0.000641 = 0.1224 BTC [-]
18:26 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136753233381.jpg
18:26 mircea_popescu i declare today mp&co appreciation day
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 88 @ 0.00281 = 0.2473 BTC [-]
18:27 ThickAsThieves your claim might not reach further than this room tho
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.002809 = 0.2809 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.0028 = 0.14 BTC [-]
18:27 ThickAsThieves but I will reserve it
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00266 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 72 @ 0.00262 = 0.1886 BTC [-]
18:27 ThickAsThieves and celebrate with you
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 29 @ 0.00261 = 0.0757 BTC [-]
18:30 Framedragger heh mircea, your dating 4chan site is interesting :D
18:33 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 232 @ 0.01022 = 2.371 BTC [-]
18:34 jurov i'll prolly use "Last Financial&Consulting LLC"
18:36 jurov lol First consulting LLC is taken by some bitch, just a month ago
18:37 dub Next FC LLC
18:38 mircea_popescu yeeh. 3rd of May! MP appreciation day!
18:41 jamborambo hi guys, who do you think in this room has been into crypto-currency the longest?
18:41 jamborambo okay, i guess that was a lame subject... i'm just bored waiting for the next fall.
18:41 mircea_popescu nanotube
18:42 jamborambo is he like a bitcoin guru? hehe
18:42 mircea_popescu sort of. a few others around.
18:42 mircea_popescu pretty much everyone except imsaguy, he's a noob.
18:43 jamborambo im a noob :(
18:44 jamborambo i have my 10 coins at $90 USD. you think ill be able to buy them at that price?
18:44 ThickAsThieves but you have them already
18:44 inhies im only here because i found coins i forgot about
18:44 inhies :D
18:45 ThickAsThieves i'm only here cuz SR
18:45 nanotube >_> <_<
18:45 ThickAsThieves ^_^
18:45 jamborambo are there any other bitcoin IRC channels?
18:45 ThickAsThieves many
18:45 jurov and i'm only here cuz MP (to show some appreciation on this day)
18:46 nanotube jamborambo: a couple hundred. :P
18:46 jurov nanotube: gribble is on hundreds of channels?
18:46 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
18:46 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192661.msg2009251#msg2009251
18:46 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 105.79552, Best ask: 107.40755, Bid-ask spread: 1.61203, Last trade: 107.50000, 24 hour volume: 224799.97878543, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 126.90000, 24 hour vwap: 106.76789
18:46 mircea_popescu ouch
18:46 Diablo-D3 so whats with the selling panic?
18:46 mircea_popescu so is rthis true ? did shtylman warn buddies so they bouight out bitcoin ?
18:47 mircea_popescu lol jurov
18:47 nanotube jurov: well no, gribble is only on several dozen. :)
18:47 nanotube but there exist hundreds
18:47 ThickAsThieves mp, thats not really true
18:48 ThickAsThieves while some people learned sooner than others
18:48 ThickAsThieves the price didnt move THAT much
18:48 ThickAsThieves and
18:48 ThickAsThieves Roman still allowed withdraws for a time
18:48 ThickAsThieves and I thought he also allowed cash withdraws after halting
18:49 ThickAsThieves that last part i cant confirm
18:49 ThickAsThieves cuz i did get all my money out beforehand
18:49 ThickAsThieves and didnt follow things much after
18:49 mircea_popescu aha
18:50 ThickAsThieves its been closed for what 2 weeks?
18:50 mircea_popescu people have gotten into this VERY nasty habit of pushing the truth
18:50 ThickAsThieves probly too early to scream bloody murder
18:50 mircea_popescu i don't recall it being that bad a couple years ago
18:50 ThickAsThieves he has updates on the home page
18:51 ThickAsThieves and some people here hold him in high esteem as aperson
18:51 ThickAsThieves i dont know the guy at all
18:51 ThickAsThieves just glad i got out early
18:51 ThickAsThieves coincidentally i think the BTC/USD price was like exactly what is today when he closed
18:53 benkay ;;ticker
18:53 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.00001, Best ask: 108.95572, Bid-ask spread: 0.95571, Last trade: 108.00001, 24 hour volume: 225231.59405501, 24 hour low: 91.11000, 24 hour high: 126.90000, 24 hour vwap: 106.74646
18:53 benkay moar crises plz
18:53 benkay i want all btc
18:53 ThickAsThieves give it a day
18:53 benkay can we give gox a reprive also?
18:53 benkay let them kick around in the market a bit longer
18:53 ThickAsThieves just get into the API and bot up a few thousand fake orders
18:54 ThickAsThieves thatll do the trick
18:54 benkay reprive man reprieve
18:54 benkay however it's spelled, i would like to take more advantage of them
18:54 ThickAsThieves but thats what i was helping with
18:54 ThickAsThieves give gozx a break by giving them a hard time
18:55 ThickAsThieves :)
18:55 benkay :eyeroll:
18:55 benkay man also this atm crap
18:55 benkay would love to hear about how these people plan to comply with aml/kyc
18:58 ThickAsThieves does it take credit cards
18:58 ThickAsThieves nice way to launder stolen ones if so
19:00 jurov exactly same as cash ATM?
19:01 jamborambo ;;bids 0 command
19:01 gribble (bids [--under] <pricetarget>) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over <pricetarget>. If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under <pricetarget>.
19:02 jurov ;;bids 0.1
19:02 gribble There are currently 997413.16 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.1 USD, worth 16217440.6469 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
19:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.92 = 3.84 BTC [+]
19:18 kakobrekla >Today the registration system will be opened, and I will be able to post a list of the delegates. If they want to stay anonymous, pseudonymous or the like, I will only post what I am allowed to. I will also disclose their principals. (You know, a delegate has to file a letter of attorney for every organization (s)he represents, to be considered a legal representative. Unless (s)he just represents him/herself.)
19:18 kakobrekla hehe
19:18 mircea_popescu lmao
19:18 mircea_popescu plz to link me again i seem to have lost it
19:19 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg2002075#msg2002075
19:19 jcpham please go mircea_popescu
19:20 jcpham invite the tiberius guy too
19:20 mircea_popescu lol
19:20 mircea_popescu send all the forum trolls as "delegates" ?
19:20 kakobrekla lol
19:20 jcpham many pictures
19:20 mircea_popescu or take a modelling agency along and just bother the geeks
19:20 jcpham find out who's for real and fake for us
19:20 jcpham i can't tell anymore
19:21 jcpham a few minutes face to face should suffice
19:21 mircea_popescu lol
19:21 mircea_popescu "Lastly, I have found it best to ignore the arrogant MP and his supposed PR person as they think they are so much better than rest of us. I have rarely seen him have anything positive to say about anything positive on this forum. If it's something that is already disparaging then he/she/they/it can usually jump on the band wagon in a positive way."
19:21 mircea_popescu no but srsly, he
19:21 mircea_popescu 's gonna be the forum piper
19:21 mircea_popescu attract all idiots in one place
19:21 mircea_popescu then we talk to kim to nuke it
19:22 jcpham kim dotcom has nukes?
19:22 kakobrekla lol
19:22 jcpham amirite
19:22 mircea_popescu his dong is a nuke
19:23 jcpham if you arrived at my summit with a clan of ladies we'd take a break from the summit
19:23 jcpham but whatever
19:23 jurov volodya putin has it much closer
19:23 mircea_popescu jurov ya but we're not ass close.
19:23 jurov can prolly stage submarine accident
19:23 mircea_popescu lol he'd do it too, nuke finland.
19:24 mircea_popescu kakobrekla sadly not much material there ;/
19:25 kakobrekla he keeps deleting shit
19:25 kakobrekla sry, de-leeting
19:26 mircea_popescu you know, it'd be almost worth it to become tyrant simply to make a special reservation of "nice people"
19:26 mircea_popescu force everyone nice to move there
19:26 mircea_popescu then watch them bore each other to death
19:26 mircea_popescu o wait never mind, we have the united states already.
19:28 ThickAsThieves we arent bored, we have TV!
19:29 mircea_popescu and just in bierbier
19:33 jurov SPRINGFIELD, MO, – May 2, 2013 – AMC today that it has declared a special dividend of .0000001 per share for it members.
19:33 jurov ^^ bitfunder frontpage lulz
19:34 jurov accidentally dividend
19:35 mircea_popescu springfield mo!
19:36 error4733 ;;next
19:36 gribble target: 100-104 | updated by OneFixt at May 2 2013, 22:15 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
19:38 ThickAsThieves I'm interested to see how AM decides to handle this selling of USB miners
19:38 ThickAsThieves only practical method I can think of is to have a flat price and first come, first served
19:38 mircea_popescu they can make a killing
19:38 kakobrekla those are made to rub it in bfls face?
19:38 ThickAsThieves but if they auction they'd make more money
19:38 mircea_popescu nah, sell off batches of 100 - 1000
19:39 mircea_popescu kakobrekla yup
19:39 mircea_popescu or more practically, to kill their market.
19:39 ThickAsThieves but they will get legions of poor people crying if they dont sell singles
19:39 mircea_popescu notice that they only got the move on them once bfl actually started delivering
19:39 mircea_popescu im pretty sure they were going to match whatever product bfl was shipping, if they started with singles same deal.
19:39 mircea_popescu pretty decent business head somewhere in the am team.
19:44 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192661.msg2010652#msg2010652
19:44 mircea_popescu and the "has issues" prize goes to...
19:44 kakobrekla yes that is dog
19:45 mircea_popescu also rikur promises to make further timetables and other proofs.
19:45 mircea_popescu i kinda like it when people feel that a simple "dude, i suck, you're so much better than me" is not quite adequate
19:46 mircea_popescu so they proceed to spell it out over thousands of words, add drawings...
19:46 mircea_popescu really give out their time and energy to make the point.
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47110001 = 0.9422 BTC [-]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.46990001 = 0.9398 BTC [-]
19:49 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.92 = 5.76 BTC [+]
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.92 BTC [+]
19:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15847 @ 0.00071634 = 11.3518 BTC [-]
20:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00071634 = 4.7995 BTC [-]
20:11 thestringpuller Look at HIM go up
20:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.30469 BTC [-]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3047 = 2.6094 BTC [+]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.30496 = 3.9149 BTC [+]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.30497 = 5.2199 BTC [+]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.305 BTC [+]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.308888 = 11.78 BTC [+]
20:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.00172499 = 3.45 BTC [-]
20:33 taub http://www.scribd.com/doc/139160091/Coinlab-v-Mt-Gox
20:33 taub is this legit?
20:34 kakobrekla lol
20:35 taub i dont even know what coinlab does
20:36 taub nothing as of yet it seems
20:44 toffoo ouch .. looks pretty legit to me. troubles in paradise.
20:50 parseval I'd rather keep MtGox than be forced to use a new inexperienced startup instead
20:52 thestringpuller !ticker m S.BBET
20:52 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00172499 / 0.00172499 / 0.00172499 (6000 shares, 10.35 BTC), 7D: 0.00099999 / 0.00147326 / 0.00199994 (141310 shares, 208.19 BTC), 30D: 0.00079521 / 0.00158698 / 0.00199999 (253652 shares, 402.54 BTC)
20:52 kakobrekla a friend of mine is waiting 100btc withdrawal from a aml verified account for 3 weeks now from gox
20:53 thestringpuller so is Gox confirmed fractional reserve?
20:53 toffoo that'll teach them to jump into bed with any new American start-up partners: no traction in 1 month = LAWSUIT! "talk to our lawyers" --'mericans
20:56 taub tux is a bumbling idiot
20:56 taub dont think anyone will do business with him, gox will die
20:56 taub all you have to do is be trusted, and have lower fees
20:57 taub and better software, and it's almost impossible to be worse
21:06 thestringpuller taub: CampBX and other exchanges are already that
21:06 thestringpuller why is no one moving money?
21:06 taub liquidity I guess
21:06 taub campbx isn't that much cheaper either
21:10 thestringpuller taub: they've never been hacked
21:10 taub yea but they don't have a big advantage over mtgox
21:10 taub and they lack liquidity
21:10 thestringpuller because big movers are trading on gox
21:11 taub if i were to start an exchagne i'd run i at 0% for a month
21:11 thestringpuller tell campbx that
21:11 thestringpuller I live next to them
21:11 taub or as long as it takes to become top 5 exchange
21:11 thestringpuller literally
21:11 thestringpuller if you really think this stuff will work I can pass the message directly
21:11 taub they also have to revamp their site, it looks horrendous
21:11 taub iframes, really?
21:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3089 BTC [+]
21:12 taub well I imagine they don't make much money now, so if they think about forgoing fees as a marketing expenditure
21:12 Framedragger i actually miss bitcoinica's type of web interface..
21:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00071634 = 5.0502 BTC [-]
21:13 taub part why btc24 was so popular was because the 0% fee policy
21:14 taub maybe not a good long term business model, but a way to draw attention sure
21:14 thestringpuller well then taub I don't know what to tell
21:14 ThickAsThieves did you guys see the gox/coinlab thing?
21:14 thestringpuller MtGox has monopoly
21:14 thestringpuller by laziness
21:14 ThickAsThieves ;;title http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
21:14 gribble That URL appears to have no HTML title.
21:14 taub yep seen it
21:18 thestringpuller Isn't gox about to be shutdown?
21:18 thestringpuller ;;goxlag
21:18 gribble MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
21:19 ThickAsThieves why would gox be shut down
21:20 Bugpowder coinlab
21:20 Bugpowder lol
21:20 Bugpowder what fucking scammers
21:20 ThickAsThieves thats what i was thinking
21:20 ThickAsThieves probly their intention all along
21:20 Bugpowder I fucking called this day one
21:20 ThickAsThieves "he we can always sue em""
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31979 = 0.6396 BTC [+]
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31979 BTC [+]
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31979 = 0.6396 BTC [+]
21:21 ThickAsThieves and now people are boo-hooing in bit-anal
21:21 Ukto heh
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3198 BTC [+]
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31989998 = 0.6398 BTC [+]
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31989999 = 0.6398 BTC [+]
21:22 Ukto sounds like coinlab made an epic fail once again, and is trying to pin it on gox to extort them.
21:22 ThickAsThieves yep
21:22 taub why?
21:23 taub the lawsuit sure makes it sound like they have some valid complaints
21:23 ThickAsThieves does it mention dates that gox committed to and missed
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.31979 = 0.9594 BTC [-]
21:24 ThickAsThieves and whther ther contract had stipulations for what to do in that event?
21:24 ThickAsThieves id coinlab meet their own obligations?
21:24 ThickAsThieves d
21:24 thestringpuller ;;later tell mircea_popescu apparently http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-966426 is false
21:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:25 ThickAsThieves of course thats false, we all knew that
21:26 error4733 is false ?
21:26 error4733 wtf i sold all :/
21:28 ThickAsThieves i assume yer joking
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4711 = 0.9422 BTC [+]
21:32 Bugpowder taub of course it does
21:32 Bugpowder IANAL but my wife is
21:32 Bugpowder I haven't asked her, but I suspect this suit will be dismissed immediately in summary judgement
21:34 Bugpowder LOL CoinLaboffered its credibility, market insights, relationships with established banks and investors, and intellectual property and agreed to manage and market the exchange services in North America
21:34 Bugpowder What credibility?
21:36 ThickAsThieves this whle thing makes the bitcoind foundation look silly too
21:38 Bugpowder I will ask my wife about this
21:41 dub man
21:41 dub this is some funny
21:41 dub Mark currently serves as CEO of Mt.Gox, one of the oldest Bitcoin businesses in operation today. He is the mastermind who created the current trade engine and the multi-currency platform for Mt.Gox.
21:47 OneFixt Bugpowder: awesome, please let us know and ping me =)
21:47 Bugpowder Also sent to a friend at Durie Tangri
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22:07 tiberiusiv what happend to coinlab
22:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.31987 = 0.6397 BTC [+]
22:09 Bugpowder Scam
22:09 ThickAsThieves they got sad that gox wised up
22:09 tiberiusiv explain thickasthieves
22:09 Bugpowder They ran out of money and figured suing Gox was less painful than a down round
22:09 ThickAsThieves http://gawker.com/massive-bitcoin-business-partnership-devolves-into-75-487857656
22:09 tiberiusiv peter vessennes had shady eyes
22:09 Bugpowder what a bunch of dipshit
22:10 Bugpowder wear a fucking suit if you are going to handle $100M, OK
22:10 tiberiusiv the eyes always give it away
22:10 tiberiusiv bugpowder ?
22:10 Bugpowder it was more than the eyes, it was the clothes, the typos on the website, etc etc
22:10 Bugpowder probably blew a quarter of the funding up his nose
22:11 tiberiusiv lol
22:11 tiberiusiv he had a walmart suit on like mircea
22:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.308888 BTC [-]
22:11 tiberiusiv doing 100mil deals but cant spend the 1500 for a tailored suit.
22:12 tiberiusiv voorhees paid out quite a huge dividend
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31989999 BTC [+]
22:13 taub where is Peter
22:16 Bugpowder tiberiusiv: What is relevant is the satoshi per share
22:16 Bugpowder many more shares on MPEX than a few months ago
22:16 OneFixt staaaaahap fufck
22:17 OneFixt lol
22:17 Bugpowder IIRC the original photo in the CoinLab announcement story was him and the other guy at a club
22:17 OneFixt wrong channel ;)
22:17 Bugpowder hmmm
22:17 Bugpowder I think I should pull my $81 bid
22:17 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
22:17 OneFixt looks like a bounce off the 97 support
22:17 Bugpowder we are going to fucking tank
22:17 tiberiusiv i dont think so
22:18 tiberiusiv there really isnt much coins on the ask size
22:18 tiberiusiv bad news always comes out AFTER the market already tanked
22:18 tiberiusiv remember we are down alot from $266
22:19 Bugpowder tiberiusiv: the ask side coins are at an all time high, what are you smoking?
22:19 Bugpowder http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
22:19 tiberiusiv theres like nothing up until 140-150
22:19 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [+]
22:20 tiberiusiv also that relationship is usually reverse
22:20 Bugpowder well I moved my 82 bid down to 76
22:20 tiberiusiv look at bid size
22:20 tiberiusiv at the 200's
22:20 tiberiusiv it was at record too
22:20 ThickAsThieves gox login is not responding for me
22:20 Bugpowder AsK size
22:20 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26167 BTC [+]
22:20 Bugpowder ThickAsThieves: mtgox.com/login
22:20 Bugpowder that works
22:21 tiberiusiv ;;bids 50
22:21 Bugpowder tiberiusiv: I think you might be colorblind
22:21 gribble There are currently 140374.12 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 9953163.58318 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
22:21 ThickAsThieves you rock thx
22:21 tiberiusiv ;;asks 200
22:21 gribble There are currently 130084.86 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 19759880.577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.0111 seconds
22:22 Bugpowder This one is going to be VIOLENT
22:22 ThickAsThieves ythink?
22:22 Bugpowder also, no new cash in gox till Tuesday due to bank holiday.
22:22 tiberiusiv order books arent really that great predictors
22:23 tiberiusiv huge bad news usually signals a bottom imo
22:23 tiberiusiv high level of negativity
22:23 ThickAsThieves orderbooks are just one more datapoint
22:23 tiberiusiv yes
22:23 ThickAsThieves whoa
22:23 ThickAsThieves whoa
22:23 ThickAsThieves tib agreed with me
22:24 ThickAsThieves i deserve a cookie
22:24 Bugpowder Just wait till 6 confirms
22:24 tiberiusiv i see barely any coins even up to 110
22:24 tiberiusiv lol bugpowder
22:24 Bugpowder Seriously
22:24 Bugpowder this news hit reddit 1 hour ago
22:24 tiberiusiv shit like that is already priced in
22:24 tiberiusiv lol 1 hour is so old
22:24 Bugpowder no its really not
22:25 ThickAsThieves tib theres something you are not considering
22:25 Bugpowder it takes 1 hour to get fresh coins onto gox
22:25 tiberiusiv what news ?
22:25 Bugpowder the lawsuit
22:25 ThickAsThieves when speculators see a reason to go in one direction
22:25 tiberiusiv bugpowder right but others would have already pulled their bids.
22:25 ThickAsThieves they love to go all in
22:25 ThickAsThieves in the direction
22:25 Bugpowder tiberiusiv: I moved mine down
22:25 ThickAsThieves panic
22:25 tiberiusiv in anticipation of the so called new coins selling
22:25 ThickAsThieves etc
22:25 tiberiusiv bugpowder case and point.
22:25 tiberiusiv its already priced in.
22:25 ThickAsThieves we'll see i guess
22:26 tiberiusiv the move already occured.
22:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
22:26 tiberiusiv http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html
22:27 Bugpowder tiberiusiv: thats how it looks when people are market selling in the crahs
22:27 tiberiusiv where do you see huge asks building?
22:27 tiberiusiv the market has already reacted to the news
22:27 Bugpowder let me show you a screenshot
22:27 tiberiusiv if the price goes down its because of overall negativity vs some irrelevant news event
22:27 Bugpowder This is what it looks like when you are about to hit the bottom.
22:27 Bugpowder http://i.imgur.com/2cJLOTO.png
22:28 tiberiusiv it looks like that now
22:28 Bugpowder no it doesn;t
22:28 Bugpowder not YET
22:28 tiberiusiv and that was massive capitulation
22:28 tiberiusiv events like that are VERY rare
22:28 tiberiusiv they usually occur after major run ups
22:28 tiberiusiv bottoms like that
22:28 Bugpowder Anyway we will see
22:28 Bugpowder no point in arguing about it.
22:29 tiberiusiv ok
22:29 tiberiusiv why does vassenes matter anyway
22:30 ThickAsThieves tib it can easily be argued that we are at the end of bubble just like the last one
22:30 ThickAsThieves only more compressed
22:30 ThickAsThieves but we can still bottom lower
22:30 ThickAsThieves than 92
22:30 ThickAsThieves or whatever
22:31 Bugpowder THe contract
22:31 Bugpowder http://www.scribd.com/doc/139181173/Contract-between-Mt-Gox-and-Coinlab
22:31 ThickAsThieves nice
22:31 ThickAsThieves much more interesting than the lawsuit doc surely
22:31 tiberiusiv i really doubt 50 is ever seen again in bitcoin
22:31 tiberiusiv outside of a actual systematic failure
22:31 tiberiusiv where it goes to 0
22:31 tiberiusiv i dont think the price goes anywhere which is what i said 2 weeks ago
22:31 ThickAsThieves maybe not 50
22:31 ThickAsThieves but 60s
22:32 ThickAsThieves there is a massive one-man support floor at 70
22:32 maximian Peter Vessenes: "I want to do what's right for bitcoin!" <launches $75M lawsuit against largest exchange>
22:32 tiberiusiv why didnt mtgox follow through
22:32 ThickAsThieves which this whole bubble is propped up on
22:32 tiberiusiv mtgox dotn have 75mil to pay lol
22:32 ThickAsThieves they wont need to pay
22:32 tiberiusiv obviously
22:32 tiberiusiv that case wont last in a US court
22:33 ThickAsThieves CL just wants a settlement to go awaya
22:33 tiberiusiv but why did they break contract
22:33 ThickAsThieves maybe Gox feels CL broke
22:33 ThickAsThieves and rather than suing simply said fuck it
22:33 tiberiusiv ive always stated nerds are horrible horrible people
22:34 tiberiusiv that should stay away from business
22:34 tiberiusiv and stick to coding and other mundane tasks
22:34 tiberiusiv they just have 0 integrity and always a chip on their shoulders
22:35 tiberiusiv wonder where he came up with 75mil
22:35 tiberiusiv mtgox isnt even worth that
22:35 ThickAsThieves Coinlab makes some pretty risky revenue commitments in here
22:36 tiberiusiv 310k a year?
22:36 maximian yeah $75 is outrageous, but that's usual when filing a claim
22:36 dub tux is french
22:36 ThickAsThieves ot 110% of actual
22:36 ThickAsThieves or*
22:36 ThickAsThieves whichever is greater
22:36 dub he probbly just couldnt be bothered
22:36 tiberiusiv um those revenue commitments are tiny
22:36 tiberiusiv cavirtex could meet year 10
22:37 ThickAsThieves like i said
22:37 dub too busy eating garlic and chasing hairy women
22:37 ThickAsThieves or 110% of actual rev
22:37 ThickAsThieves whichever is greater
22:37 tiberiusiv thickasthieves can you read?
22:37 tiberiusiv 110% of the previous year.
22:37 ThickAsThieves that means they cant have two bad years
22:37 tiberiusiv he has to grow minimum 10% a year
22:37 ThickAsThieves at any revenue total
22:38 ThickAsThieves also K.
22:38 tiberiusiv revenue is NOT profit.
22:38 tiberiusiv be quiet
22:38 ThickAsThieves $50m damage limit
22:38 tiberiusiv those revenue projections are very very low
22:38 tiberiusiv a betting parlor in a 50k population town can do 30k a month
22:38 ThickAsThieves so you'd sign a contract that required you to make 110% every year for 10 years?
22:38 tiberiusiv 10%.
22:38 tiberiusiv not 110%
22:39 ThickAsThieves ugh
22:39 tiberiusiv can you learn to read?
22:39 ThickAsThieves you know what i meant
22:39 ThickAsThieves you had to go and turn into a fuckface again
22:39 tiberiusiv yea i would
22:39 tiberiusiv the MINIMUM is so low
22:39 tiberiusiv 310k year 1, 341k year 2
22:39 tiberiusiv if the 110% is GREATER that means that one applies.
22:39 tiberiusiv those minimums are so damn low
22:39 ThickAsThieves the minimum is raised to actual revenue
22:39 tiberiusiv dude shut up
22:40 ThickAsThieves ignored
22:40 tiberiusiv the minimum is 341.
22:40 tiberiusiv on year 2
22:40 tiberiusiv if the 110% is higher that one applies
22:40 tiberiusiv but the absolute MIN is 341
22:40 tiberiusiv no wonder you are poor lol
22:40 tiberiusiv cant read a basic document
22:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3088 = 3.9264 BTC [+]
22:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.308888 = 14.3978 BTC [+]
22:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.309 = 3.927 BTC [+]
22:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.309999 = 17.03 BTC [+]
22:43 tiberiusiv bugpowder: markets dont really respond to external events other then for very short time periods
22:47 Namworld I think I'm going to start buying options, if anyone wants to sell either call or puts. Seems the MPEx bot is asking for way too much.
22:47 dub ;;bids 0
22:47 gribble There are currently 27346002 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 15756343.4933 USD in total. | Data vintage: 102.9880 seconds
22:48 tiberiusiv lol namworld
22:48 tiberiusiv ;;asks 1000
22:48 gribble There are currently 182080.75 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 35457841.568 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds
22:50 ThickAsThieves Nam I have a few misc Puts up for sale, at 143 and 161
22:51 ThickAsThieves nothing major
22:51 ThickAsThieves but probly cheaper than bot
22:52 tiberiusiv thickasthieves how do you plan on paying out
22:52 tiberiusiv when you are short selling put options
22:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47997 = 1.4399 BTC [+]
22:54 Namworld myeah, your puts are still way too expensive
22:55 ThickAsThieves soz
22:55 Namworld like the best calls have breakeven points over 140 USD/BTC and best puts have breakeven points under 77 USD/BTC
22:55 Namworld Too expensive to me
22:55 taub the risk/reward in writing the options is really bad :s
22:55 taub mp basically turned off his bot
22:55 taub don't blame him, really
22:55 Namworld at the rate currently asked, the risk/reward is really good...
22:56 Namworld In my opinion
22:56 taub oh! okay yea
22:56 Namworld Prior to that, it was bad...
22:56 taub but like betting 1btc to maybe make 0.1 on some options
22:56 Namworld maybe there's a better inbetween to be found...
22:57 taub i guess it can work, but the model he has running isn't very good
22:57 ThickAsThieves i agree Nam, I think the bot algo could be fine tuned
22:57 ThickAsThieves it leaves money on the table to be as timid as it is
22:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.48 = 4.8 BTC [+]
22:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
22:58 ThickAsThieves but we are biased too
22:58 ThickAsThieves what kind of breakeven are you looking for on calls?
22:59 Namworld sheesh... not sure I'd want any calls right now...
22:59 ThickAsThieves oh you mentioned calls earlier
22:59 Namworld yeah, if there was a really good deal...
23:00 Namworld I might bite
23:00 ThickAsThieves the month is young
23:12 Bugpowder See,… the bitcoin ATM guy knew enough to wear a suit.
23:12 Bugpowder https://twitter.com/JamesGMorgan/status/330067324210135040/photo/1
23:13 joecool not like MT sitting on inflatable balls like a seal or smthn
23:14 joecool polo/jeans
23:14 joecool with pizza sauce all up in it
23:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-]
23:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.3199 = 3.9597 BTC [+]
23:19 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.23501 BTC [-]
23:19 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.235 = 0.47 BTC [-]
23:20 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.23 = 1.15 BTC [-]
23:22 tiberiusiv waiting on that sell off bugpowder
23:23 Bugpowder :)
23:23 tiberiusiv its been more then 1hour
23:23 tiberiusiv 6 confirms
23:23 tiberiusiv if markets worked like that everyone would be rich
23:25 ThickAsThieves 4 confs btw
23:25 ThickAsThieves i sent btc to gox
23:25 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00339 = 0.1356 BTC [+]
23:25 ThickAsThieves so there's your time reference in confs
23:26 tiberiusiv the market reaction already occured to the news
23:26 tiberiusiv and nothong happend lol
23:29 Bugpowder wife says CoinLab's general counsel is a pretty famous and good contingency firm
23:29 tiberiusiv theres absolutely 0 emperical evidence that news drives markets
23:30 tiberiusiv only amateurs believe news matters
23:30 Bugpowder And there is no way to clearly evaluate it this early in the process
23:30 tiberiusiv yes there is.
23:30 tiberiusiv we have 300 years of markets
23:30 ThickAsThieves did she also see the contract
23:30 tiberiusiv im trying to dig you up the website
23:30 tiberiusiv i want you to read
23:30 tiberiusiv but i cant find it
23:30 testypesty yeah, so if paypal & ebay announced in the news today it's taking on BTC, that wouldnt matter?
23:30 tiberiusiv its like a 3min video disproving
23:31 tiberiusiv testypesty: nope.
23:31 tiberiusiv btc would still not surpass 266.
23:31 tiberiusiv hence why paypal ceo talked about bitcoin but the price is 30% lower then when he spoke.
23:31 testypesty why 266?
23:31 tiberiusiv if crowd psycology is heading towards a direction
23:31 tiberiusiv nothing else matters
23:31 tiberiusiv all that would occur would be a short term spike
23:32 Bugpowder Yes she saw it
23:32 tiberiusiv IF the general trend is down its down.
23:36 ThickAsThieves is it difficult to get an international suit like this to work?
23:36 ThickAsThieves or can gox just kick it around
23:38 tiberiusiv no its easy
23:39 tiberiusiv gox is in a AAA jurisdiction
23:39 tiberiusiv if you were in romania you can ignore it
23:39 tiberiusiv hence why mircea is there
23:39 tiberiusiv mircea isnt stupid. he sits in an area where hes 100% sheltered
23:39 tiberiusiv mtgox is not sheltered in japan especially when their assets are in US banks
23:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.31899 BTC [-]
23:42 Bugpowder Mircera is going to have a blogasm when he wakes up
23:42 tiberiusiv mtgox will not be liable for 75 million
23:42 tiberiusiv maybe $2500
23:42 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.10899 = 1.0899 BTC [-]
23:43 tiberiusiv i mean where does vessennes even get that 75mil number from
23:43 tiberiusiv coinlab is worth 75 dollars
23:43 inhies man
23:43 inhies screw bitcoin
23:43 inhies its iron man night
23:44 mod6 u no like cheap prices?
23:44 inhies cheap?
23:44 inhies its been cheap for months
23:44 tiberiusiv mod6 dont be a cheerleader
23:44 inhies JUST YOU WAIT
23:44 mod6 keke
23:44 tiberiusiv theres nothing cheap about bitcoin @ 100
23:44 inhies tiberiusiv: mod6 just bought in so she's trying to drum the price back up to at least break even
23:44 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [+]
23:44 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 90 @ 0.014 = 1.26 BTC [+]
23:44 tiberiusiv lol inhies
23:45 tiberiusiv exactly
23:45 dub I read inhies ans inhales
23:46 ThickAsThieves yeah, whats an inhies?
23:46 tiberiusiv mod6 is a woman?
23:46 inhies inheis is an inh
23:46 inhies with an ies on the end
23:46 inhies kind of like pants and panties
23:46 tiberiusiv a woman in here is rarer then thickasthieves having money
23:46 inhies ...or something
23:46 inhies i guess im trying to say, im panties
23:46 inhies im inh on otc, as soon as i dig that keypair off my old hdd :3
23:47 inhies until then, dont beleive a word i say
23:47 taub ;;bids 70
23:47 gribble There are currently 88672.613 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 7038561.94509 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
23:47 dub ;;getrating inh
23:47 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User inh, rated since Thu May 12 17:15:32 2011. Cumulative rating 19, from 11 total ratings. Received ratings: 10 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=inh
23:47 tiberiusiv coinlab failing is excellent news for bitcoin
23:47 tiberiusiv bullish event imo
23:47 tiberiusiv peter vessennes and co are permanently out of the picture now
23:47 taub its not like they've been relevant anyway
23:47 tiberiusiv i know
23:47 dub don't you have to do somethign first in order to fail?
23:47 taub lol yes
23:47 dub what did they fail at? nothing
23:48 tiberiusiv yea but now hes completely out
23:48 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 15 @ 0.185 = 2.775 BTC [+]
23:48 taub right
23:48 tiberiusiv his reputation will be too damaged
23:48 tiberiusiv for anyone to do business with him in the future
23:48 dub maybe pretending to have an HPC/mining platform
23:48 tiberiusiv and damage btc infrastructure
23:48 dub they didn't fail at that though
23:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.4 = 1.6 BTC [+]
23:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23852 @ 0.00071785 = 17.1222 BTC [+]
23:48 tiberiusiv why dont mining pools begin investing into their own BTC client
23:48 tiberiusiv like to make the client compatible with the btc network it just has to follow the same rules right?
23:49 tiberiusiv that nerd crew has to go
23:49 dub +1
23:49 dub no real incentive for pools to get involved though
23:49 jcpham everyone should join my club
23:50 jcpham the bitcoin miners union
23:50 dub the jesus christ pham?
23:50 jcpham we'll do stuff
23:50 jcpham btcmu.org
23:50 jcpham except we have to make it
23:50 tiberiusiv vessennes gavin
23:50 tiberiusiv have to go
23:50 jcpham or i'll sell you the domain and you do it
23:50 jcpham whatever
23:51 dub gavin is ok imo, just needs to be stronger an dignore the other fuckwits
23:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 26 @ 0.01442 = 0.3749 BTC [+]
23:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.01498 = 1.498 BTC [+]
23:51 tiberiusiv what about garzik
23:51 jcpham i'm inviting btcguild first
23:51 dub he tried to sort the dev shop out but got beaten down by the 'community'
23:51 jcpham btcmu.org is not opposed to forking the blockchain
23:51 jcpham for funa nd profit
23:52 tiberiusiv vessennes is finished anyway though
23:52 Bugpowder bitcoin foundation board meetings are gonna be FUN
23:52 dub the foundation is a joke
23:52 jcpham haha
23:52 tiberiusiv hanging around at a star trek convention?
23:53 tiberiusiv since the foundation has no actual capital
23:53 tiberiusiv they cant really do much
23:53 Bugpowder they got that 10000BTC donation from gox
23:53 Bugpowder Peter should have spent that too
23:53 tiberiusiv lol
23:54 Bugpowder where is mah crash?
23:54 Bugpowder Still think we will see 70-80 this weekend
23:54 tiberiusiv you are an amateur bugpowder
23:54 Bugpowder but I guess a violent sell off is not in the cards
23:55 tiberiusiv those levels are possible
23:55 tiberiusiv but it wont be becuase of mtgox lawsuit
23:55 Bugpowder I am a ameture but have made much more on bitcoin than you ;)
23:55 tiberiusiv i doubt it.
23:55 Bugpowder that's your ego talking, not your head
23:55 tiberiusiv bugpowder in 12months from now youll have given back most of your gains
23:55 Bugpowder o really?
23:55 tiberiusiv yep
23:56 Bugpowder how?
23:56 jcpham i like how coinlab has this emotional pr release and mtgox releases a one-liner
23:56 Bugpowder I am out of coins!
23:56 tiberiusiv seen so many guys like you in trading
23:56 tiberiusiv its not even funny
23:56 Bugpowder Gotta pay my taxes
23:56 Bugpowder l8r
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31989999 BTC [+]
23:58 Framedragger oh fuck it's may, i've to pay taxes in a week as well :(
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