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trinque |
seems relevant to the lisp vs perl thing |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: but basic idea is that single-tasking, single-threaded box was inherently responsive |
| 00:00 |
trinque |
perl's an interface to a handful of problems, ignores other things |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
it -had- to be |
| 00:00 |
trinque |
I was for example shocked to find an object system in CL as a layman |
| 00:00 |
trinque |
and a few months in I'm pretty sure it has goddamn everything, so to speak |
| 00:01 |
trinque |
any "paradigm" of programming you'd like to use |
| 00:01 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: because everywhere else on the planet 'object-oriented' is synonymous with 'profound retardation', yes |
| 00:01 |
trinque |
yeah, and I went to a school that did C++ and Java, and dropped out of that |
| 00:01 |
gabriel_laddel |
<trinque> seems relevant to the lisp vs perl thing << ummm... the angle I'm attacking this from is that meta-programming is inescapable and sexprs are the only sane way to go unless you want to program forth or APL. |
| 00:01 |
trinque |
then went on to do python and ruby in industry |
| 00:01 |
trinque |
it's a wonder I can hit the toilet with my ass |
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| 00:01 |
gabriel_laddel |
we know how ALGOL and meta-programming (tree-traversals) interact |
| 00:02 |
trinque |
gabriel_laddel: sure, seems you need code to be data to do metaprogramming well |
| 00:02 |
gabriel_laddel |
not only that - you /must/ have a simple parsing algorithm, else upgrades are a bitch |
| 00:03 |
gabriel_laddel |
checkout the scala "macro" system sometime. |
| 00:03 |
gabriel_laddel |
s-expressions + read tables are the ultimate notational abstraction |
| 00:04 |
trinque |
way less mental fatigue looking at them, I've found |
| 00:05 |
trinque |
I have to run; cheers |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
one observation of mine is that the abstraction that most determines the shape of a program is |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
the unavailable one(s). |
| 00:05 |
gabriel_laddel |
way less mental fatigue looking at them, I've found << I suppose. One can learn to read most anything. The importance here is the triviality of generating "syntactically correct" program texts. |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
think this way - if the problem were entirely contained in an -available- set of abstractions of the language, the program would not need to be written! |
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| 00:06 |
asciilifeform |
(best program is no program.) |
| 00:07 |
gabriel_laddel |
!s brick lisp |
| 00:07 |
assbot |
8 results for 'brick lisp' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=brick+lisp |
| 00:10 |
gabriel_laddel |
While we're here, I'll note that being tied to text (perl) is quite limiting. On CLIM today I can tell any object how to "present" itself, i.e., how to draw itself on the screen. Such a thing is unthinkable in a language based around regexes. |
| 00:11 |
asciilifeform |
gabriel_laddel: it is a mistake to describe perl as 'based on' anything in particular. it is soup, consisting of the entire contents of a crashed delivery van. soup reflective of what is to be found in the author's skullcase. |
| 00:12 |
asciilifeform |
this appeals to some people |
| 00:12 |
asciilifeform |
for a variety of reasons |
| 00:13 |
asciilifeform |
partly because it makes a convincing simulacrum of problem-solving, as (per naggum) hollywood special effects 'may as well be the real thing' |
| 00:13 |
asciilifeform |
partly because it allows imbeciles to feel as if they are 'sticking the finger' to those boring 'squares' who actually take the time to think things through |
| 00:14 |
asciilifeform |
partly because perl proggies tend to be 'throw-aways' and absolve the author of the burden of actually carrying anything through to completion or (horror) supporting |
| 00:15 |
asciilifeform |
but also for many other reasons, which i will not waste readers' time on. |
| 00:15 |
* |
gabriel_laddel B.A.D (bitcoin-assets distro) update #1, I just finished rewriting mozrepl in parenscript. Now to cut out extra crud. |
| 00:15 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque re the dos point of sale, best breakfast p[lace here had one, made like 1985 or some shit |
| 00:16 |
asciilifeform |
^ it immediately caught my eye when saw it |
| 00:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> nature's criterion of 'works' and mine << nature's cheaper. you might not get a voice. |
| 00:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: in the end, the amoeba get the voice. |
| 00:17 |
mircea_popescu |
that's the thing. |
| 00:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118488 @ 0.00029217 = 34.6186 BTC [-] |
| 00:18 |
asciilifeform |
but engineers who take an intense interest in 'in the end' tend to build autoguillotines. |
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| 00:18 |
asciilifeform |
rather than computers |
| 00:18 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe. |
| 00:18 |
asciilifeform |
!up gabriel_laddel |
| 00:20 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. |
| 00:20 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 22:32:39; ben_vulpes: there's nothing more undervalued right now than cheap old blades. |
| 00:23 |
asciilifeform |
^ speaking of which, is anyone going to splatter out the c3 conversation re: computational sommeliers here ? |
| 00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111015 << cooling! |
| 00:23 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 22:44:55; decimation: usually with power, bus, network, etc supplied as part of the 'crate' |
| 00:24 |
gabriel_laddel |
mircea_popescu: are you ever going to post the Jerusalem follow-up to your Istanbul article? |
| 00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
imo cooling was the biggest problem for the damned blades. |
| 00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
gabriel_laddel once i go to jerusalem |
| 00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you got a blog neh ? |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
blog but too few handz |
| 00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"i forgot where i put it " |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
'where i should put this?!!!' -- 'borat' |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
(scene where he is holding a bad of own shit) |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
*bag |
| 00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"this i should put where is ?" |
| 00:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98050 @ 0.00029824 = 29.2424 BTC [+] |
| 00:29 |
asciilifeform |
and l0l, apparently no one mentioned the matchsticks. so let this count as mention. |
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| 00:30 |
mircea_popescu |
the unmentionable matchsticks |
| 00:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111057 << floating point's just a convention, right ? |
| 00:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 23:01:04; decimation: unfortunately no floating point unit, but that isn't needed for the target market here |
| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111123 << to round off that thread, it appears that a secondhand instrument of that type can be had for 10-20k usd, where i live. |
| 00:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 23:43:06; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110941 << interestingly, i asked about the cost. was told something like '$1m for the old style, 2.5 for the new generation.' fella said this with straight face, too, as if there were nothing remarkable about this factoid. |
| 00:34 |
mircea_popescu |
seems nuts. 1% of new price if used ? |
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| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
aha. just like the xyz robot i worked with |
| 00:34 |
mircea_popescu |
so where's the 300 dollar bmws |
| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
these things deprecate on the 'usg pays maxint, scrap dealer pays 1%' formula. |
| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
that is where the 300 bmw is. |
| 00:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111076 << that country is france. |
| 00:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 23:21:58; asciilifeform: i mention it because i can imagine a world where such clocks are considered not only acceptable, but 'state of the art' and 'best practice' |
| 00:35 |
gabriel_laddel |
u'u |
| 00:35 |
gabriel_laddel |
lol |
| 00:35 |
mircea_popescu |
before smartphones, it was not uncommon to stop two people in the street whose clocks were 30 minutes apart. |
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| 00:36 |
asciilifeform |
there would be a 300 usd bmw if a) 500 people knew of bmw b) machine could only be driven on 100 particular race courses c) by a ph.d. or equiv. d) running on virgin piss |
| 00:36 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: l0l wut? clock towers existed |
| 00:36 |
asciilifeform |
now, lazy people also existed. and still exist |
| 00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
virgin piss is not that rare |
| 00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
especially in the us. |
| 00:37 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 00:37 |
asciilifeform |
export market then. |
| 00:39 |
asciilifeform |
but back to the machines, because i consider this a mega-educational moment - there are countless instruments where you can pay, e.g., 10k on 'ebay' but you can also pay 800k if you want new, with support contract, for the mandatory softs to not be considered pirated, etc., etc., (most of this is strictly usg) |
| 00:40 |
asciilifeform |
the one consumer crud item which (i am told) behaves in a similar way is - diamonds. |
| 00:40 |
* |
asciilifeform cannot comment in detail, has no personal experience with then outside of machine shop tooling |
| 00:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54950 @ 0.00030057 = 16.5163 BTC [+] {3} |
| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory: |
| 00:48 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqT2uOa1-d0 |
| 00:49 |
assbot |
The Brave Little Toaster - Worthless (No Interruptions) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DxUHch ) |
| 00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
notbad |
| 00:56 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111168 << i lollerd. |
| 00:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 23:58:40; menahem: And be the Pete the world requires of me" |
| 00:56 |
mircea_popescu |
also, behold line 1111111 : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111111 |
| 00:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 23:37:19; williamdunne: It won't cover all of history though, most of the RSS feeds only cover 5-10 posts each |
| 01:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ok that bitgo thing was pretty lulzy. |
| 01:05 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. << http://www.ebay.com/itm/RLX-System-600ex-Xeon-CPU-Blade-2-8GHz-x-2-1GB-60GB-HD-/170369036116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27aac92f54 big time |
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| 01:05 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 22:32:39; ben_vulpes: there's nothing more undervalued right now than cheap old blades. |
| 01:05 |
assbot |
RLX System 600ex Xeon CPU Blade 2.8GHz x 2 1GB 60GB HD ... ( http://bit.ly/1Or56Rv ) |
| 01:05 |
trinque |
way better than a piddly ec2 micro/small/medium instance eh? |
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| 01:05 |
mircea_popescu |
guess so |
| 01:07 |
trinque |
seeing elsewhere 10 xeon dell poweredge for $50 per |
| 01:07 |
trinque |
next hustle maybe |
| 01:08 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111214 << being specific here would be interesting. |
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| 01:08 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 00:57:29; Naphex: trinque: that's airgapped gpg. you can implement gpg all over. Not sure how much airgapping it helps. A lot of sidechannel attacks comming up nowadays that can grab keys |
| 01:08 |
trinque |
re: perl thread RLX control tower was all written in php, could multicast OS images out to 500 blades at once, and lots of other great shit |
| 01:09 |
trinque |
this in early 200x |
| 01:09 |
trinque |
the puppets and other garbage in the space are still trying to do what they had |
| 01:09 |
mike_c |
mircea_popescu: requested changes to wot site are live. |
| 01:10 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c i noticed sorting earlier. pretty cool! |
| 01:10 |
mike_c |
oh, except for help text on tooltips on the headers. got to add that. but yeah, sorting is up, dates don't wrap in the tables anymore, and http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/all-users/ |
| 01:10 |
assbot |
All WoT Users - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1DxXbr6 ) |
| 01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111227 << i use WP-Footnotes4.2 By Simon Elvery. |
| 01:11 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 01:43:24; williamdunne: Anyone know a decent footnotes plugin for WP? |
| 01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
i suspect everyone using them is using the same |
| 01:11 |
mircea_popescu |
!up jayk |
| 01:11 |
jayk |
thanks |
| 01:11 |
mike_c |
the best footnotes plugin for WP is /dev/null |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
wait wut! |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
footnotes haet ?! |
| 01:12 |
mike_c |
hehe. you get an exception. |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i am probably the record holder for most footnotes in an article out of the entire interwebs |
| 01:12 |
mike_c |
and pete has gotten much better. but footnotes are dangerous and usually misused. |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
also may be the only one with footnoted footnotes |
| 01:13 |
cazalla |
made a irl scoopbot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C21PhQU6tjg (every parent thinks their kid is the smartest but i think this is good for 15 months) |
| 01:13 |
assbot |
scoopbot kid can fetch better than the original - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Or5Kyn ) |
| 01:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50443 @ 0.00029179 = 14.7188 BTC [-] {3} |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust Pierre_Rochard |
| 01:15 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 4 via 7 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=Pierre_Rochard | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Pierre_Rochard/ |
| 01:16 |
mike_c |
cazalla: he got three things in a row without crashing. He's better than all the scoopbots combined :) |
| 01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 01:17 |
mircea_popescu |
williamdunne so in retrospect : "immutable, fungible, non-discriminatory, and trustless" is really redundant. fungible includes "non-discriminatory". |
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| 01:19 |
jayk |
!gettrust jayk |
| 01:19 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user jayk to user jayk: ∞ | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jayk/ |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i would suspect maybe trustless is a misnomer. trust is not involved at all, the point is coherence. the system remains coherent, which is to say it does not fork into ambiguous states. |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe the best description would be "immutable, fungible and entropic" |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
because that is the property here : same as entropy, bitcoin lacks the ability to review earlier states on the base of later states. |
| 01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
so described, it is rather clear that bitcoin can not in fact exist : immutability and entropy are mutually contradictory. |
| 01:23 |
jayk |
is it worth throwing any money at a mining pool these days with bitcoin being flat? |
| 01:24 |
cazalla |
jayk, let someone else bare the cost and just buy coins straight up |
| 01:24 |
jayk |
better to buy them right now then |
| 01:24 |
cazalla |
bear even |
| 01:24 |
jayk |
i heard you cant be profitable at $200-250 |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
jayk you mean renting hash power ? that was never a good deal. |
| 01:26 |
jayk |
nope |
| 01:26 |
jayk |
self owned |
| 01:26 |
jayk |
i never liked the idea, and BFLY labs tried to do it |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
what do you mean ? you got some miners in garage ? |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
yes turning them on is usually profitable. |
| 01:26 |
jayk |
nope, nothing yet |
| 01:27 |
mircea_popescu |
then depends what you pay for them. |
| 01:27 |
jayk |
or if you can get them |
| 01:27 |
mircea_popescu |
plenty for sale afaik |
| 01:27 |
jayk |
seems many places are hard to obtain, and kncminer doesnt sell equip anymore |
| 01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
| 01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
"It, together with smart contracts, has been let out of Pandoras Box never to return, never to be unlearned, no matter how badly some of us might want it to." |
| 01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
oh for crying out loud. |
| 01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
other things sharing the same properties, "the free lunch", "democracy", "you can do anything" etc. |
| 01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
just because particular memes are well suited to the mental vulnerabilities of the early mind and so are noteworthy to educators and psychiatrists does not mean they're also noteworthy to engineers. |
| 01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
proof of pizza, for fucks sake. all the money in pizza delivery is the god damned tips. nobody will ever deliver pizza to the sort of idiots who bicker about times randomly. if this is how it went, why not have "proof of latte" to make sure the barrista really did give you the latte. |
| 01:31 |
jayk |
there's a website for them |
| 01:32 |
jayk |
i got flamed for calling them pizza boy |
| 01:32 |
jayk |
:) |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
who, "them" |
| 01:32 |
jayk |
the delivery people |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
what should you call them, pizza delivery worker ? |
| 01:33 |
jayk |
http://www.tipthepizzaguy.com/discussion/ |
| 01:33 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1DxZbj3 ) |
| 01:33 |
mircea_popescu |
williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O |
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| 01:34 |
jayk |
they get really pissy when you address them boy and not man |
| 01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"* Beware of teenagers grouped in twos wearing hooded sweatshirts. Most criminals fit that description" |
| 01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk. |
| 01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"Be suspicious of pedestrians when you pull up to a house. Don't open your car door if people are nearby." |
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| 01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit what country is this |
| 01:37 |
jayk |
i was in a casino with a bandana and i was asked to leave because i appeared to be a frightening gang member |
| 01:37 |
cazalla |
jayk, did ya refuse to take it off? bandana is as bad as feet on table tbh |
| 01:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00030347 = 12.7306 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
the last time an idiot "asked me to leave" i had the place torched. |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
da fuck is this shit. |
| 01:39 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, but did ya have ya bandana on with ya feet on the table? |
| 01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
mnope |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm really the best customer anyone could ever have. i tip, there's hot chicks, the works. |
| 01:40 |
cazalla |
google for "jayk casino bandana" serves up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpDnFPYoWxw |
| 01:40 |
assbot |
CASINO(1995) GET YOUR FEET OFF THE TABLE - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Or8xro ) |
| 01:40 |
jayk |
cazalla: i shaved my head and didn't like the way i looked |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
lol win |
| 01:41 |
mircea_popescu |
jayk prolly should have explained your name's pepe. |
| 01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
!rate jayk 1 Noob |
| 01:44 |
assbot |
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| 01:45 |
mircea_popescu |
!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.jayk.1:486e17533db78ce8c35a9aed04ec6c2e015f4f145af1c95a3188b499c90d6515 |
| 01:45 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for jayk with note: Noob |
| 01:45 |
cazalla |
!up jayk |
| 01:45 |
jayk |
https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10386752_582362298543805_2330135579441782816_n.jpg?oh=87b63f5732878beee41e6429ce8196b1&oe=55CF0734 |
| 01:45 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Dy0jU0 ) |
| 01:46 |
jayk |
there's the bandana pic |
| 01:46 |
jayk |
though my hair had grown back by then |
| 01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't really look like you have any business in a casino... |
| 01:46 |
jayk |
is it because |
| 01:46 |
jayk |
i... |
| 01:46 |
jayk |
look like a duck farmer? |
| 01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 01:47 |
cazalla |
jayk, i get the bandana, free bird shit but c'mon, take hat/bandana off in a casino or any establishment for that manner |
| 01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
williamdunne "inheritence" that takes an a, and moreover, the entire "transfer reputation" thing is muddied at best. |
| 01:48 |
jayk |
girls were wearing them |
| 01:48 |
jayk |
so why can't i! |
| 01:48 |
jayk |
that's sexism man |
| 01:48 |
* |
jayk raises hell |
| 01:48 |
cazalla |
cause ya don't have tits |
| 01:48 |
jayk |
:( |
| 01:48 |
mircea_popescu |
this reminds me of scene where chick is told that she has to cover her head in church |
| 01:48 |
mircea_popescu |
so she removes her top (was a knotted square thing) and puts it on her head. |
| 01:48 |
mircea_popescu |
she is now covered, topless. |
| 01:49 |
jayk |
ha |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they nearly fell over. |
| 01:49 |
jayk |
that's a good reason to go to a gay bar with your hot gf |
| 01:49 |
jayk |
hot lesbo chicks will lift up their shirts |
| 01:49 |
jayk |
trying to get your gf's attn |
| 01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
was some derpy greek orthodox thing on some island. |
| 01:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35650 @ 0.00028967 = 10.3267 BTC [-] |
| 01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
lesbianism is just shy foreplay anyway. |
| 01:51 |
cazalla |
greek orthodox eh, sure not latvian orthodox? |
| 01:51 |
jayk |
its generally not difficult to bum some action off a lesbian |
| 01:52 |
jayk |
my ex-gf's sister's gf had never seen a penis before |
| 01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla what, you think greek orthodoxy's made up ? |
| 01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"Unfortunately unlike Bitcoin there is no reputation Trezor." << a) trezor's kinda dysfunctional/derpy ; b) of course there is. airgapped gpg. |
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| 01:53 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i guess so, figured you had the kavorka yourself but guess not :P |
| 01:53 |
mircea_popescu |
jayk so how did she know she was a lesbian ? |
| 01:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla it's a thing, greece has > 9k islands, about half of them have a church on |
| 01:54 |
* |
cazalla is drinking and talking shheeeiit |
| 01:55 |
cazalla |
;;ud kavorka |
| 01:55 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kavorka | (Pronounced Kah-vor-kah) The Kavorka is a word which originated from the Latvian Orthodox. It means "the lure of the animal". It is described as a curse, making ... |
| 01:55 |
jayk |
she was dating my ex-gf's sister and had never been with a man, and told me she had never seen a penis before |
| 01:55 |
jayk |
so i took her to the beach and we stripped down |
| 01:55 |
cazalla |
jayk, beach sex is the shittiest sex in my experience |
| 01:56 |
cazalla |
literal sand in vag |
| 01:56 |
cazalla |
what a fucking scam hollywood has going with the idea that sex on the beach is hawt |
| 01:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah not great. |
| 01:56 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla sex in tub not much better. |
| 01:56 |
jayk |
there are grassy parts |
| 01:56 |
jayk |
lol |
| 01:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but hey, they got all these things because can't show fucking on tv, because usians are retards. |
| 01:57 |
midnightmagic |
+1 shitty on beach :-/ |
| 01:58 |
midnightmagic |
wind, water, and sand, all crappy |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, you got sex in canada ?! and beaches ?! |
| 01:58 |
midnightmagic |
so they tell me |
| 01:58 |
jayk |
it ain't ideal, but would you turn it down with a lesbian? |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
i turn down so much sex... |
| 01:59 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, ya the taps, hitting ya head on that shit ain't fun |
| 01:59 |
jayk |
mirc...you are different...a romanian charlie sheen |
| 02:00 |
cazalla |
jayk, ya mean real butch lesbian types that ya can't get hard for or pretend 16 year old lesbian to get your attention so you fuck her straight? |
| 02:00 |
jayk |
she was pretty hot with big tits |
| 02:00 |
cazalla |
which are usually "bi" anyway |
| 02:00 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds more like the latter. |
| 02:01 |
jayk |
i've tried to find her on fb but i dont know what happened to her |
| 02:01 |
jayk |
ran away to saskatoon |
| 02:02 |
mircea_popescu |
" off the top of my head the United Kingdom, South Africa, Singapore, India, and China have instant and cheap (in many cases free) bank transfer systems." << nonsense. your example is SEPA. rest sucks by comparison. (or gyropay before that). |
| 02:02 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway williamdunne i see what you meant by "not as eloquent" :D |
| 02:02 |
mircea_popescu |
the good news being that if you stick to it, it'll improve. |
| 02:02 |
jayk |
are there any places that do instant ACH? |
| 02:02 |
mircea_popescu |
now do me a personal favour and ditch that retarded disqus thing |
| 02:03 |
mircea_popescu |
"We're going to co-opt the technology, OK? End. Of. Story." lolk. |
| 02:05 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust assbot menahem |
| 02:05 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user menahem: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=menahem | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/menahem/ |
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| 02:06 |
mircea_popescu |
!rate menahem 1 New blood |
| 02:06 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/d88c2adde0ca36f1 |
| 02:06 |
mircea_popescu |
!v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.menahem.1:ef600b5ecdbf4fb4fc6975db6a8a625a670ccde4c18d5e5462f354dbec68aadb |
| 02:06 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for menahem with note: New blood |
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| 02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell menahem you really don't know how to bother girls. |
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| 02:08 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
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| 02:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54534 @ 0.00030536 = 16.6525 BTC [+] |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 02:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 28440 @ 0.00004019 = 1.143 BTC [-] {5} |
| 02:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10266 @ 0.00031267 = 3.2099 BTC [+] |
| 02:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119850 @ 0.00031119 = 37.2961 BTC [-] {2} |
| 03:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118143 @ 0.00031443 = 37.1477 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:20 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7cgLu0PuQo |
| 03:20 |
assbot |
Richard Cheese - My Neck, My Back - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qvn5F1 ) |
| 03:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31441 @ 0.00031479 = 9.8973 BTC [+] |
| 03:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56086 @ 0.00031789 = 17.8292 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48050 @ 0.00032004 = 15.3779 BTC [+] |
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| 03:53 |
cazalla |
;;later tell bingoboingo what website does this one https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/ remind you of? |
| 03:53 |
assbot |
Bitcoin News Magazine - Cryptocurrency News and Reviews ... ( http://bit.ly/1FnvLsF ) |
| 03:53 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 03:54 |
cazalla |
or anyone else for that matter |
| 03:54 |
mircea_popescu |
random shitty boost thing ? |
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| 04:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52450 @ 0.00029404 = 15.4224 BTC [-] |
| 04:31 |
Naphex |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111612 << See: http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/handsoff/ / https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2013-December/028102.html for the acoustic side channel fix |
| 04:31 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:08:43; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111214 << being specific here would be interesting. |
| 04:32 |
assbot |
Get Your Hands Off My Laptop ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1M0ug ) |
| 04:32 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1z1M2lU ) |
| 04:37 |
Naphex |
mircea_popescu: https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/161.pdf for bitcoin related sidechans |
| 04:37 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Mocb ) |
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| 04:55 |
davout |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111584 <<< never happened to me |
| 04:55 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 04:35:18; mircea_popescu: before smartphones, it was not uncommon to stop two people in the street whose clocks were 30 minutes apart. |
| 04:56 |
davout |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111529 <<< if it's a set you still need to stitch them together |
| 04:56 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 04:05:37; asciilifeform: think this way - if the problem were entirely contained in an -available- set of abstractions of the language, the program would not need to be written! |
| 05:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111694 @ 0.00028898 = 32.2773 BTC [-] {3} |
| 05:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97418 @ 0.00030103 = 29.3257 BTC [+] {2} |
| 05:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94500 @ 0.00032102 = 30.3364 BTC [+] {2} |
| 05:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00031862 = 6.6592 BTC [-] |
| 05:32 |
williamdunne |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111677 <<< Originally it was linked in the footnotes, not sure what happened to that. I'll add it again later |
| 05:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:33:34; mircea_popescu: williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O |
| 05:32 |
williamdunne |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a |
| 05:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:17:59; mircea_popescu: williamdunne so in retrospect : "immutable, fungible, non-discriminatory, and trustless" is really redundant. fungible includes "non-discriminatory". |
| 05:32 |
williamdunne |
bitcoin account' if you will. |
| 05:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68400 @ 0.00032138 = 21.9824 BTC [+] {3} |
| 05:41 |
Naphex |
!rate fluffypony 2 freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c479d5a2f2e4c3ba71a05a521eb58cd80bebebf35f842bbc4730962b |
| 05:41 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/d99af9649c5c4b47 |
| 05:42 |
Naphex |
!rate fluffypony 2 Riccardo Spagni of #b-a/monero. Responsible for OpenAlias which kicks ass |
| 05:42 |
assbot |
Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10. |
| 05:43 |
Naphex |
!rate fluffypony 2 Riccardo Spagni of #b-a/monero. Responsible for OpenAlias which kicks ass |
| 05:43 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/79bff65c1be218b8 |
| 05:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70182 @ 0.00031862 = 22.3614 BTC [-] |
| 05:44 |
Naphex |
!rate williamdunne 1 young climbing up |
| 05:44 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/7cf372e691fe349f |
| 05:44 |
Naphex |
!rate williamdunne 1 young and climbing up |
| 05:44 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f71f3a1c1344a9d0 |
| 05:48 |
kakobrekla |
what is this monero bs in ba |
| 05:49 |
kakobrekla |
why better |
| 05:51 |
Naphex |
!rate -10 HoreaV Horea Vuscan former 'CEO' of BTCXchange.ro. Overall scammer and crook. Avoid! |
| 05:51 |
assbot |
-10 is not registered in WoT. |
| 05:51 |
Naphex |
!rate HoreaV -10 Horea Vuscan former 'CEO' of BTCXchange.ro. Overall scammer and crook. Avoid! |
| 05:51 |
assbot |
HoreaV is not registered in WoT. |
| 05:51 |
punkman |
g'day asseteers |
| 05:53 |
punkman |
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121551/bot-bubble-click-farms-have-inflated-social-media-currency |
| 05:53 |
assbot |
The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Svx5 ) |
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| 05:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123400 @ 0.00032214 = 39.7521 BTC [+] {3} |
| 05:54 |
punkman |
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2015/04/bot_makes_2_4_million_reading_twitter_meet_the_guy_it_cost_a_fortune.html |
| 05:54 |
assbot |
Bot makes $2.4 million reading the Web: Meet the guy it cost a fortune. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1SARk ) |
| 05:56 |
punkman |
http://wp.newrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Richard-on-Bed-of-SIM-Cards-Color.jpg "The main limiting factor for his business is a somewhat unpredictable supply of SIM cards." |
| 05:56 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1z1SKsa ) |
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| 06:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00032355 = 7.3122 BTC [+] {2} |
| 06:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23164 @ 0.00031877 = 7.384 BTC [-] |
| 06:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102000 @ 0.00032355 = 33.0021 BTC [+] |
| 07:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17079 @ 0.00031877 = 5.4443 BTC [-] |
| 07:01 |
davout |
jurov_ you manage the mailing list amirite? |
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| 07:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91600 @ 0.00030816 = 28.2275 BTC [-] |
| 07:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00030816 = 8.8596 BTC [-] |
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| 07:51 |
scoopbot_revived |
News! Short Term Update URL: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/short-term-update-21/ |
| 07:51 |
assbot |
Short Term Update | Bitcoin Trading Signals ... ( http://bit.ly/1KjHGYq ) |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 08:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90300 @ 0.00030816 = 27.8268 BTC [-] |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 08:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62718 @ 0.00030254 = 18.9747 BTC [-] |
| 08:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82950 @ 0.00030281 = 25.1181 BTC [+] |
| 08:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00030281 = 12.1124 BTC [+] |
| 08:46 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex that's consumer level stuff. |
| 08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell williamdunne explain this difference between "1 btc = 1 btc" and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet". |
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| 08:48 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 08:49 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony "Secure connection: fatal error (80) from server. https://openalias.org/ An internal error occurred." |
| 08:49 |
assbot |
OpenAlias - Simplifying the World ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMR8hI ) |
| 08:49 |
fluffypony |
wup wup |
| 08:50 |
fluffypony |
works for assbot |
| 08:50 |
fluffypony |
and for me |
| 08:50 |
fluffypony |
I'm guessing the CloudFlare node you're hitting is being wonky |
| 08:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71500 @ 0.00031259 = 22.3502 BTC [+] |
| 08:51 |
fluffypony |
it's a static site, so just use the archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20150403023536/https://openalias.org/ |
| 08:51 |
assbot |
OpenAlias - Simplifying the World ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMRnZX ) |
| 08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
$ curl https://openalias.org/ |
| 08:52 |
assbot |
OpenAlias - Simplifying the World ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMR8hI ) |
| 08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
curl: (35) error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure |
| 08:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what the hell ssl be you using |
| 08:55 |
fluffypony |
Quallys gives it an A+ |
| 08:55 |
fluffypony |
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=openalias.org&s=104.28.14.44&latest |
| 08:55 |
assbot |
SSL Server Test: openalias.org (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMRIvZ ) |
| 08:55 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony that aside, how does this thing solve situatiosn where dns zones are ambiguous ? (say registrar and host don't match) |
| 08:56 |
fluffypony |
the registrar doesn't set DNS records, necessarily, only what the nameservers are (ie. SOA) |
| 08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
right |
| 08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
but it might. |
| 08:56 |
fluffypony |
since DNSSEC follows a signature chain back to the root zone your ISP's DNS server can't fake the record |
| 08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
(im still trying to understand exactly how this works) |
| 08:56 |
fluffypony |
or even pretend it doesn't exist |
| 08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 08:57 |
fluffypony |
that said, a DNSSEC fail is a soft fail (as not all zones support DNSSEC at this stage) - so it'll present the address for user validation |
| 08:58 |
mircea_popescu |
so it can't be used in unattended systems ? |
| 08:58 |
fluffypony |
as long as it treats a DNSSEC as a hard fail it can |
| 08:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"By leveraging DNSSEC we are able to prevent MITM-style attacks on an alias." doesn't tell me very much. |
| 08:58 |
fluffypony |
ok |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"What is OpenAlias? OpenAlias seeks to provide a way to simplify aliasing amidst a rapidly shifting technology climate. " << i mean come on. |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
you folk gotta hire someone to do proper tech writing. there's nothing wrong with having sales copy, |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
but i gotta be able to figure out what stuff is too! |
| 08:59 |
fluffypony |
then skip the About section, that's all sales blurb :-P |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
ok but skip to where |
| 09:00 |
fluffypony |
Implement |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
ie "What is the application-side process?" ? |
| 09:01 |
fluffypony |
that's what you would do in your application if you were implementing lookups |
| 09:02 |
fluffypony |
or just run this: https://github.com/openalias/openalias-api |
| 09:02 |
assbot |
openalias/openalias-api · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1DMSngJ ) |
| 09:02 |
fluffypony |
(preferably with dnscrypt-proxy running, and point it at that) |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
mkay. well i'm exiting this process with message "a project to provide bitcoin-deanonymizers with a domain-address pairing method, powered by the general public's expectations of convenience and lack of expectation of guarantees" which sums up to "fluff". |
| 09:05 |
fluffypony |
yes, hence why it was originally created for Monero, where your address is reusable |
| 09:06 |
mircea_popescu |
so if i posion dns cache, can i also steal payments for that domain ? |
| 09:06 |
fluffypony |
nope |
| 09:06 |
fluffypony |
not unless you have their DNSSEC private keys |
| 09:06 |
mircea_popescu |
suppose i do. |
| 09:06 |
mircea_popescu |
because you know, usg keeps a master key, or so the rumour goes. |
| 09:07 |
fluffypony |
well they could always use Namecoin instead |
| 09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
the complexity brtought about any attempt to implement "convenience" is outright staggering huh. |
| 09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway. |
| 09:08 |
fluffypony |
https://api.dnschain.net/v1/namecoin/key/d%2Farux |
| 09:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1z8lOi3 ) |
| 09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
for that matter |
| 09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
;;isup http://www.dnssec.net/ |
| 09:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1z8lYpE ) |
| 09:08 |
gribble |
http://www.dnssec.net/ is up |
| 09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
| 09:08 |
mircea_popescu |
doth not respond |
| 09:10 |
fluffypony |
doesn't work for me either |
| 09:10 |
* |
mircea_popescu shakes hand |
| 09:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122300 @ 0.00030254 = 37.0006 BTC [-] |
| 09:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111833 << lmao No ?! ?! ?! could this be possibru ?!?! |
| 09:11 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 09:53:45; assbot: The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Svx5 ) |
| 09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
and in the lines of drama : a few years ago the ro education ministry failed utterly at publishing natl highschool exams. so i hacked their shit and published the lists. |
| 09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what'ever 100k kids, most of which idiots, names and all. |
| 09:18 |
mircea_popescu |
now there's about one a week bitching about how you know, this shouldn't exist!!11 |
| 09:18 |
mircea_popescu |
most recently, http://trilema.com/2011/rezultate-la-bacalaureat-sesiunea-iunie-2011-judetul-tulcea/#comment-113907 "these information WERE of public interest but through the passage of time 'have become' private" |
| 09:18 |
assbot |
Rezultate la Bacalaureat, sesiunea Iunie 2011, judetul Tulcea on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8oBYp ) |
| 09:18 |
mircea_popescu |
fancy that! |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
im gonna erase history to satisfy the hopes and aspirations of the subhuman horde five minutes after i gangbang literal sows. |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
how about you know, doing a good fucking job at the exam, so you don't have to be ashamed of it a few years later. |
| 09:20 |
mircea_popescu |
dude is all "anyone can search and find out someone's marks, ~which do not represent the value of the respective person~". |
| 09:20 |
mircea_popescu |
why not ? cause fucktard so decided! nothing negative could ever represent these idiots' "twu vawue". |
| 09:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42650 @ 0.0003096 = 13.2044 BTC [+] |
| 09:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65800 @ 0.00031334 = 20.6178 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73350 @ 0.00031828 = 23.3458 BTC [+] |
| 09:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00031828 = 15.914 BTC [+] |
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| 10:26 |
scoopbot_revived |
News! Female sexuality, human sexuality. URL: http://trilema.com/2015/female-sexuality-human-sexuality/ |
| 10:27 |
assbot |
Female sexuality, human sexuality. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J0AqzZ ) |
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| 10:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39861 @ 0.00031291 = 12.4729 BTC [-] |
| 10:46 |
menahem |
mircea_popescu thanks for the vote of confidence. |
| 10:46 |
menahem |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111775 |
| 10:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 06:06:41; assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for menahem with note: New blood |
| 10:47 |
menahem |
as for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111776 |
| 10:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 06:08:42; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell menahem you really don't know how to bother girls. |
| 10:47 |
menahem |
lolol |
| 10:48 |
menahem |
i didn't know how far I should push it - mention her on twitter, etc.. maybe best to leave the heavy hand to you ? i'm too much of a luvva. but maybe my definition of luvvin is wrong. |
| 10:59 |
menahem |
!rate mircea_popescu 2 bitcoin sage. pimp of all pimps. |
| 10:59 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/661d3cdca944b6aa |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
im trying to remember now what this was about |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
oh |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!up gina |
| 11:00 |
menahem |
!v assbot:menahem.rate.mircea_popescu.2:7cc82d0435c8ff1762d08246dbadfdf1fd432f6719194f70ecaa5bf6457e89e4 |
| 11:00 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 2 for mircea_popescu with note: bitcoin sage. pimp of all pimps. |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"This took a bit for the stupidity to really sink in. Like, sink sink in. Her comment I have to say I dont really appreciate reading something like that and would prefer a much more constructive discussion about web payments is the absolute peak of the stupidity. " << this was the problem |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
makes no sense. |
| 11:01 |
menahem |
hmm |
| 11:01 |
menahem |
lemme re-read |
| 11:01 |
mircea_popescu |
for one thing, it isn't the peak of stupidty. for the other thing, making pronouncements like that dun work. you gotta show, not tell. |
| 11:03 |
menahem |
ok. would a comparative example work ? |
| 11:03 |
menahem |
to show ? |
| 11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
like how ? |
| 11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
here's another thing that doesn't work : "The worst part, is Torrie Fischer is competent with PGP 4. My advice to her, is" << the problem being that i can readily see her cv, but i don't see yours. from whence do you give her advice ? this jars. |
| 11:05 |
menahem |
hmm, often in your posts you provide a secondary story. in this case (RIPple), the congenital defect. which is often my visual takeaway on your point. |
| 11:05 |
menahem |
ahh k, fair enough on last point. |
| 11:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54939 @ 0.00031291 = 17.191 BTC [-] |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
menahem "like how?" as in, show me how it would go. quote this putative comparative exampler ? |
| 11:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00031408 = 5.8576 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 223400 @ 0.00030676 = 68.5302 BTC [-] {4} |
| 11:21 |
menahem |
show me how it would go... is that a 'constructive discussion' by her definition ? |
| 11:23 |
asciilifeform |
further c3ism: anyone posted a summary of the 'fuel filters' conversation ? |
| 11:30 |
menahem |
i gotta go.. thanks for time + insight thus far. |
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| 12:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134350 @ 0.00029933 = 40.215 BTC [-] {3} |
| 12:18 |
jurov |
davout: yes, i do the btc-dev list |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform nope |
| 12:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60200 @ 0.00030271 = 18.2231 BTC [+] |
| 12:47 |
jurov |
!up Cory |
| 12:47 |
williamdunne |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111853 <<< There is a night club with free drinks, but only if you can get past the bounder |
| 12:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 12:48:59; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell williamdunne explain this difference between "1 btc = 1 btc" and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet". |
| 12:47 |
williamdunne |
*bouncer |
| 12:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110050 @ 0.00029349 = 32.2986 BTC [-] {3} |
| 12:51 |
asciilifeform |
and "anyone and everyone being able to have a bitcoin wallet" << l0l, no computer needed, aha |
| 12:51 |
asciilifeform |
(sign tx with paper & pen ?) |
| 12:52 |
williamdunne |
Sure, it doesn't care who you are so long as you have keys and the ability to sign |
| 12:52 |
williamdunne |
Which is very different to say, requiring you to be of a certain nationality, not be doing certain types of business etc |
| 12:53 |
asciilifeform |
aha context must've been a comparison with fiat? |
| 12:53 |
williamdunne |
If a club lets anyone in, so long as they can travel to the club its not exactly discriminatory, just a matter of practicality |
| 12:53 |
williamdunne |
Correct |
| 13:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47800 @ 0.00030437 = 14.5489 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
williamdunne essentially, "fungible" and "non discriminatory" are the same thing. |
| 13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
if your coin is not fungible you're discriminating |
| 13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
if you're discriminating your coin's not fungible. |
| 13:12 |
williamdunne |
Sure no, but most people would call dollars fungible - even though they certainly are not |
| 13:12 |
williamdunne |
Maybe I'm trying to pander to most people too much |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, general point stands. |
| 13:16 |
williamdunne |
Definitely, just working on getting the library working |
| 13:16 |
williamdunne |
#b-a library ofc |
| 13:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81654 @ 0.00030676 = 25.0482 BTC [+] |
| 13:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142900 @ 0.00031134 = 44.4905 BTC [+] |
| 13:25 |
williamdunne |
Naphex: Thanks for the rate |
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| 14:01 |
scoopbot_revived |
News! Furious Seven URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/26/furious-seven/ |
| 14:01 |
assbot |
Furious Seven | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1DzpuWe ) |
| 14:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6030 @ 0.00030667 = 1.8492 BTC [-] |
| 14:14 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111771 << the first link does not work from public log because of some weird character |
| 14:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 06:05:52; assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user menahem: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=menahem | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/menahem/ |
| 14:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22644 @ 0.00031134 = 7.05 BTC [+] |
| 14:17 |
ben_vulpes |
<assbot> ... btcalpha << ty kako! |
| 14:17 |
danielpbarron |
also, links with capital letters do not work |
| 14:17 |
danielpbarron |
!gettrust Naphex |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user Naphex: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=Naphex | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Naphex/ |
| 14:18 |
danielpbarron |
!gettrust naphex |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user naphex: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=danielpbarron&to=naphex | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/naphex/ |
| 14:18 |
ben_vulpes |
;;later tell mike_c ^^ |
| 14:18 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 14:23 |
ben_vulpes |
https://twitter.com/uncledynamite/status/592388957201166337 |
| 14:23 |
assbot |
your turn billy http://t.co/dhBjFcF06F |
| 14:23 |
Pierre_Rochard |
!rate williamdunne 1 revived scoopbot |
| 14:23 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8e6665b35e9fe5e0 |
| 14:24 |
Pierre_Rochard |
!v assbot:Pierre_Rochard.rate.williamdunne.1:0a171d14955bc7ad814bf5aca105cb7a0324697471922db6349da4d27aa5066a |
| 14:24 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 1 for williamdunne with note: revived scoopbot |
| 14:26 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111518 << come peacetime we can make a monastery |
| 14:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 04:01:49; trinque: it's a wonder I can hit the toilet with my ass |
| 14:26 |
ben_vulpes |
first three months will be dedicated to sweeping floors and staring at a brick "lisp machine" |
| 14:27 |
ben_vulpes |
engaging in koan volleys |
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| 14:28 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111548 << like that cemetary caretaker, eh? |
| 14:28 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 04:18:08; asciilifeform: but engineers who take an intense interest in 'in the end' tend to build autoguillotines. |
| 14:28 |
danielpbarron |
!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.williamdunne.2:784f6dad632657543840ccf0dcba845b0e879f505eb81f8fcaa7aaba80ecb2dc |
| 14:28 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 2 for williamdunne with note: formerly mrwdunne with rating +1 : May 23, 2014 chatted with me in the counterwallet troll box; patient fellow. |
| 14:29 |
williamdunne |
Thank you Pierre and Daniel |
| 14:30 |
danielpbarron |
!v assbot:danielpbarron.unrate.mrwdunne:5e0a71014684089ab1c6e788cccd8bb68ea6206d4849295550b4da98bda91fcd |
| 14:30 |
assbot |
Successfully unrated mrwdunne |
| 14:30 |
williamdunne |
!rate Pierre_Rochard 2 Work at SNI, great articles |
| 14:30 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/afa6b0fd0f7968b0 |
| 14:30 |
williamdunne |
!rate Pierre_Rochard 2 Work at SNI, great articles |
| 14:30 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/6b6e404c8c91fbbc |
| 14:31 |
williamdunne |
!v assbot:williamdunne.rate.Pierre_Rochard.2:8d6d6b787cedef3421140d9a006a95197fd585085a8f816afbbf1ec65bdc9e28 |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 2 for Pierre_Rochard with note: Work at SNI, great articles |
| 14:31 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111569 << i've mentioned them several times, just...everyone's blocking them out |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 04:29:22; asciilifeform: and l0l, apparently no one mentioned the matchsticks. so let this count as mention. |
| 14:31 |
williamdunne |
!rate danielpbarron 2 While may have some strong opinions I disagree with, would trust him |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/756c5474c290d834 |
| 14:32 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: can you see the fnords, though? |
| 14:32 |
danielpbarron |
what opinions do you disagree with? |
| 14:32 |
williamdunne |
!v assbot:williamdunne.rate.danielpbarron.2:6bf39732a1cd1dfac708d3310d855f22aa74d10f9a43d6c231a246654aaa7f73 |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 2 for danielpbarron with note: While may have some strong opinions I disagree with, would trust him |
| 14:32 |
williamdunne |
danielpbarron: Religious ones mostly, nothing we will sway each other from |
| 14:33 |
danielpbarron |
ah |
| 14:36 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111575 << the UP20s go for 15-35K used, depending on how nice they are: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motoman-UP-20-Industrieroboter-20kg-Tragkraft-/131480057745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9cd27791 |
| 14:36 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 04:34:06; mircea_popescu: seems nuts. 1% of new price if used ? |
| 14:36 |
assbot |
Motoman Up 20 Industrieroboter 20kg Tragkraft | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dq7dtg ) |
| 14:37 |
danielpbarron |
I made changes to this page regarding the switch from gribble to assbot -> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets |
| 14:37 |
assbot |
first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5SsCt ) |
| 14:43 |
ben_vulpes |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111733 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-04-2015#1110717 poor kid's getting it coming and going |
| 14:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:53:14; mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately unlike Bitcoin there is no reputation Trezor." << a) trezor's kinda dysfunctional/derpy ; b) of course there is. airgapped gpg. |
| 14:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 20:37:37; ben_vulpes: http://thethug.life/reputation-commodity-exchange/#fn:1 << bro do you even airgap? |
| 14:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71900 @ 0.00030696 = 22.0704 BTC [-] |
| 14:47 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111681 << I was once a pizza delivery guy, and refused to make a delivery to one house in particular that was only accessible through a labyrinth of junk leading to its backyard |
| 14:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:35:38; mircea_popescu: "Be suspicious of pedestrians when you pull up to a house. Don't open your car door if people are nearby." |
| 14:48 |
ben_vulpes |
<scoopbot_revived> [11:50] News! Short Term Update URL: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/short-term-update-21/ << to bitcoin-pricetalk with ye |
| 14:48 |
assbot |
Short Term Update | Bitcoin Trading Signals ... ( http://bit.ly/1b3ZYQW ) |
| 15:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00030667 = 8.0194 BTC [-] |
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| 15:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82550 @ 0.00030667 = 25.3156 BTC [-] |
| 15:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62700 @ 0.00030696 = 19.2464 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:35 |
jurov |
;;later tell pete_dushenski title pic of contravex is quite a hog and despite the size still has jpg artifacts, i'd recommend converting original to png and running through pngquant |
| 15:35 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 15:36 |
jurov |
that's me procrastinating by running pnquant on stuff.... |
| 15:37 |
jurov |
also, yest log featurng Naphex is yummy :) |
| 15:39 |
williamdunne |
I'm currently in the process of over-engineering SccopBot while adding the library features, any requests for features? |
| 15:40 |
jurov |
add s/bitcoin/buttcoin |
| 15:40 |
jurov |
filter |
| 15:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66092 @ 0.00030667 = 20.2684 BTC [-] |
| 15:41 |
jurov |
but really, maybe a function to add feeds by lordship? |
| 15:42 |
jurov |
(jus' to have you develop asswot interface i can snitch :DDD) |
| 15:42 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110314 <<< this is just the default manner wordpress creates an archive page, i think, unless bb made changes << Borrowed the code from a plugin. Same style also used on thedrinkingrecord |
| 15:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-04-2015 18:27:00; mircea_popescu: cazalla dude the http://qntra.net/archives/ page kicks ass. |
| 15:44 |
williamdunne |
jurov: How would I scrape the lordship? Isn't it decided by more than just rep? |
| 15:45 |
williamdunne |
jurov: AssWot is just a bunch of JSON data - shouldn't be too hard for you to implement, no? |
| 15:45 |
BingoBoingo |
williamdunne: It's entirely assbot's L1 trustlist |
| 15:45 |
williamdunne |
Ahhh that makes sense |
| 15:45 |
jurov |
http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/trustlist.txt |
| 15:45 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GvRcXj ) |
| 15:46 |
williamdunne |
Yeah see thats a bit harder to parse.. not exactly clean data |
| 15:46 |
jurov |
but you only really need to query http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/<user> |
| 15:46 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GvRgq3 ) |
| 15:47 |
jurov |
for this case |
| 15:47 |
jurov |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot << doc |
| 15:47 |
assbot |
irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1MrI0nG ) |
| 15:48 |
williamdunne |
Sure, but I need to have a feed of all their names not gonna just brutefoce it |
| 15:48 |
williamdunne |
*bruteforce |
| 15:48 |
williamdunne |
Which surely makes the whole thing redundant, no? |
| 15:48 |
jurov |
why? you only need to check the wot in the moment a request is made |
| 15:48 |
jurov |
but if you want to parse the whole list, yw |
| 15:49 |
jurov |
best if you can do it in python :DDD |
| 15:49 |
williamdunne |
Aha sorry not doing it in Python |
| 15:50 |
williamdunne |
So with ScoopBot you're proposing that someone on the Lordship list could add their blog to his reading material |
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| 15:50 |
jurov |
Yes. |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102250 @ 0.00030737 = 31.4286 BTC [+] |
| 15:50 |
jurov |
Or maybe remove, too |
| 15:51 |
williamdunne |
Ah okay, yeah I see how that would be do-able |
| 16:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15728 @ 0.00030667 = 4.8233 BTC [-] |
| 16:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1000 @ 0.00188183 = 1.8818 BTC [+] {19} |
| 16:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47893 @ 0.00030513 = 14.6136 BTC [-] |
| 16:18 |
jurov |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111220 what? converting a quarter to timestamp? people are weird |
| 16:18 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 01:18:03; Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: had a similar head against wall bug yesterday, in pgsql: to_timestamp(‘2014-2’, ‘YYYY-Q’), doesn’t work because the docs clearly state “quarter (ignored by to_date and to_timestamp)” but it was three hours of desperate refactoring before I actually read them. |
| 16:19 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: lol at that resemblance |
| 16:20 |
Pierre_Rochard |
doing the conversion to sum up debits and credits, can’t wait to release :). It’s written in python with flask + sqlalchemy |
| 16:24 |
jurov |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZyHI0wo8Pk love parade eurotrash generation |
| 16:24 |
assbot |
Marusha Love Parade 1998 HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QxhT3z ) |
| 16:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00029312 = 6.2141 BTC [-] |
| 16:29 |
oglafbot |
http://oglaf.com/slodging/ |
| 16:29 |
assbot |
Slodging ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qxiimn ) |
| 16:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00029312 = 6.6099 BTC [-] |
| 16:35 |
jurov |
what? cunts run perl? had to reread. and then again. hahahahaHAHAHA |
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| 16:35 |
jurov |
pity it isn't bashable |
| 16:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6229 @ 0.00030513 = 1.9007 BTC [+] |
| 16:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 146371 @ 0.00030917 = 45.2535 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
bashed anyway |
| 16:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64878 @ 0.00029232 = 18.9651 BTC [-] {2} |
| 16:45 |
jurov |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111472 obviously "computer" science is concerned with computing. biology is concerned with adaptation. not really comparable. |
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| 16:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 03:50:42; asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia? |
| 16:47 |
jurov |
perhaps the word mircea_popescu wants is "cybernetics" in its original meaning but it kinda went the way of vitalism |
| 16:48 |
williamdunne |
Can someone please do me a favour and send scoop_testbot a PM saying !test |
| 16:49 |
jurov |
it replied nothing |
| 16:50 |
williamdunne |
Damn |
| 16:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71850 @ 0.00029139 = 20.9364 BTC [-] |
| 16:51 |
mats |
lol |
| 16:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00030206 = 15.7373 BTC [+] |
| 16:59 |
jurov |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111608 << it'll eat at least $10/mo electricity and dunno if i could get anyone pay even that much |
| 16:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:05:24; trinque: way better than a piddly ec2 micro/small/medium instance eh? |
| 16:59 |
jurov |
(not to mention share of dc costs) |
| 17:01 |
jurov |
in our condo are unused rooms, maybe i can fill one with oil, submerge the machines and use the heat to heat whole house |
| 17:01 |
jurov |
i can't imagine how to convince the neighbors, tho. and it'll need to get switched off in the summer. |
| 17:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35984 @ 0.00029978 = 10.7873 BTC [-] |
| 17:03 |
jurov |
well, there's a hot water needed year round, but not so much in the night, either... |
| 17:07 |
williamdunne |
jurov: Jurov can you PM scoop !test again please |
| 17:08 |
jurov |
<scoop_testbot> this is a test |
| 17:08 |
williamdunne |
Cheers |
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| 17:24 |
trinque |
jurov | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111608 << it'll eat at least $10/mo electricity << the idea would be that the customer is paying for the privilege of their own box, should come at a premium above what a VM costs |
| 17:24 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:05:24; trinque: way better than a piddly ec2 micro/small/medium instance eh? |
| 17:24 |
trinque |
I'd pay for it. |
| 17:24 |
jurov |
$10 is already a premium for that spec |
| 17:25 |
trinque |
I disagree entirely. |
| 17:25 |
williamdunne |
I'd pay for it |
| 17:26 |
trinque |
that there's another inferior product on the market which is cheap because of an ignored risk being dumped on the customer shouldn't inform the price of a product that does what it claims |
| 17:26 |
jurov |
http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-scg2 << similar dedi box |
| 17:26 |
assbot |
Dedibox® SC gen2 - Online.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvZrTc ) |
| 17:26 |
jurov |
williamdunne: would you pay $20 instead? |
| 17:27 |
trinque |
ah you're criticizing blades in particular? |
| 17:27 |
jurov |
i'm not criticizing anything |
| 17:27 |
jurov |
just doing the math |
| 17:27 |
williamdunne |
jurov: I'd need to know the exact specs, but $20 for some bare metal - sure |
| 17:27 |
jurov |
williamdunne: stats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111605 |
| 17:27 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 05:05:00; trinque: mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110960 << quite possibru. << http://www.ebay.com/itm/RLX-System-600ex-Xeon-CPU-Blade-2-8GHz-x-2-1GB-60GB-HD-/170369036116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27aac92f54 big time |
| 17:28 |
trinque |
urov | i'm not criticizing anything << well sure you are, but there's no harm in that |
| 17:28 |
trinque |
*jurov |
| 17:28 |
trinque |
what I want is a host that provides physical boxes that aren't that powerful, are cheap, but are not joined at the brainstem to other systems |
| 17:29 |
williamdunne |
jurov: Fuck yeah I'd pay $20 for that. I thought you meant something roughly equiv to a rPi. With a well optimized site you could get a k reqs a second on that |
| 17:29 |
trinque |
and provides similar spin-up/spin-down features seen in the Xen scene, without the braindamage |
| 17:29 |
williamdunne |
Although I'd want it to be somewhere out of US reach |
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| 17:29 |
trinque |
being able to declare infrastructure and have it online quick is awesome |
| 17:30 |
trinque |
no reason that has to be done with virtualization |
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| 17:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125791 @ 0.00029856 = 37.5562 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26318 @ 0.00030206 = 7.9496 BTC [+] |
| 17:37 |
jurov |
okay. there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support, i suppose the higher price would pay off |
| 17:38 |
jurov |
woould you be ok with atom cpu? |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112018 << no homo ? |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 18:27:10; ben_vulpes: engaging in koan volleys |
| 17:40 |
williamdunne |
jurov: Personally? yes. Not sure about others, branding isn't great (which unfortunately seems to matter) |
| 17:41 |
jurov |
i've got miniitx with celeron, thrown gentoo on it and was impressed how quickly it compiled |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron: I made changes to << gj. |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov lol you do have a point with the pic. |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
$ curl -I http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_oct2012.jpg |
| 17:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zaSmI1 ) |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Content-Length: 42987 |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
$ curl -I http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/contravex-header-mosaic-bold.jpg |
| 17:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zaSnf1 ) |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Content-Length: 589986 |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
and this isn't even getting to the part where contravex specifies no cache control |
| 17:51 |
mircea_popescu |
(protip : max-age=0 tells agents they should revalidate. no-cache tells them they MUST revalidate, which in many broken implementation works out to no revalidation, just downloading it again) |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov snitch is when you do what charlie shrem did. snatch is what you had in mind (means cunt, but also what aliens to do bodies). |
| 17:55 |
jurov |
eh |
| 17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yeeeees ? :D |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112089 << dude, stop futzing with it, it's good as it is. |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 19:50:08; williamdunne: So with ScoopBot you're proposing that someone on the Lordship list could add their blog to his reading material |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
do something else with your energy. |
| 18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112107 << and to think you said ~Naphex~ was yummy! |
| 18:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 20:35:11; jurov: what? cunts run perl? had to reread. and then again. hahahahaHAHAHA |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i think i managed to botehr the shit out of gabriel_laddel |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112113 << this is in no sense obvious, and you'll have your life's work before you even showing that distinction is at all meaningful. |
| 18:05 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 20:45:54; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111472 obviously "computer" science is concerned with computing. biology is concerned with adaptation. not really comparable. |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
first stop, "but cunts dispense souls!" |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
other than that, aglass of water is a computational machine. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
it computes the positions of ~10^26 water molecules + some impurities. |
| 18:07 |
jurov |
not necessarily. |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
which part ? |
| 18:08 |
jurov |
under current quantum mechanics model it was proven these molecules are indistinguishable |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
it still computes a water level. |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
and that they're indistinguishable doesn't really make all that difference. there's no rule computation must be discrete. |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ask alf |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112153 << he's in slovakia. |
| 18:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 21:29:55; williamdunne: Although I'd want it to be somewhere out of US reach |
| 18:09 |
williamdunne |
mircea_popescu: Good nuff' |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1112155 << this is a very good point not made nearly often enough. |
| 18:10 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 21:30:17; trinque: no reason that has to be done with virtualization |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube. |
| 18:10 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu: your point about fake security barriers in operating systems turned many gears in my skull |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
i used to say b-a increases one's iq by a good chunk of points |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
it's like being plugged into mechanical chtulhu |
| 18:11 |
trinque |
indeed. |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of current quantum mechanics : waveforms! http://31.media.tumblr.com/6a663937b21d2ca5abdf98b967b5a7be/tumblr_nblz1293Rg1qg7xwvo1_500.gif |
| 18:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zaZeFh ) |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
"a machine to turn penis projectile vibration into eyelash flutter" |
| 18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i think ima collect the cunts-on-perl discussion. it's pretty good! |
| 18:17 |
jurov |
maybe the only difference is computer science was constructed from mathematical (or not very mathematical, like strings) ideas, where cunts evolved themselves somehow |
| 18:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34144 @ 0.00030206 = 10.3135 BTC [+] |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
!up TheButterZone |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust assbot TheButterZone |
| 18:24 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheButterZone: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=TheButterZone | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/TheButterZone/ |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
you can self-voice, just pm assbot "!up |
| 18:25 |
TheButterZone |
ok thanks |
| 18:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69050 @ 0.0003059 = 21.1224 BTC [+] |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V53hjc0LbVY |
| 18:27 |
assbot |
Diablo 2 Cinematic - Act 2 - Desert Journey - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zb3C7b ) |
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| 18:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.0003059 = 6.9745 BTC [+] |
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| 19:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85177 @ 0.0003059 = 26.0556 BTC [+] |
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| 19:36 |
scoopbot_revived |
News! Quantum Mechanics Today : A Machine To Turn Penis Projectile Vibration Into Eyelash Flutter URL: http://trilema.com/2015/quantum-mechanics-today-a-machine-to-turn-penis-projectile-vibration-into-eyelash-flutter/ |
| 19:36 |
assbot |
Quantum Mechanics Today : A Machine To Turn Penis Projectile Vibration Into Eyelash Flutter on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FpcYgB ) |
| 19:42 |
trinque |
mp: I did commit the equivalent of showing up with a flamethrower at a figure skating competition, "what move is that! IT LITERALLY MELTED THE ICE!11" << ahahaha my sides |
| 19:42 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 19:52 |
mike_c |
kakobrekla: you see this? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111771 |
| 19:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-04-2015 06:05:52; assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user menahem: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=menahem | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/menahem/ |
| 19:53 |
mike_c |
the pipe is getting included in the link |
| 19:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14481 @ 0.00030638 = 4.4367 BTC [+] |
| 20:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.0003059 = 7.464 BTC [-] |
| 20:14 |
BingoBoingo |
"Crop Dessication" http://www.ithaka-journal.net/herbizide-im-urin?lang=en |
| 20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
soo... 7.9 earthquake in nepal, kerry announces "us pledges $1mn". |
| 20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
out of money much ? |
| 20:15 |
BingoBoingo |
likely |
| 20:17 |
BingoBoingo |
glyphosate is almost a nutrient nao: "The study found glyphosate in all urine samples at values ranging from 0.5 to 2 ng glyphosate per ml urine (drinking water limit: 0.1 ng / ml). None of the examinees had direct contact with agriculture." |
| 20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
in related news, http://31.media.tumblr.com/e6c03a0d3d7be2eb9a2cc8c354944fd0/tumblr_nbbcb7HBsH1tv1347o1_400.gif |
| 20:24 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zbBm4C ) |
| 20:24 |
mircea_popescu |
they're rounding her up. |
| 20:33 |
williamdunne |
Now thats not a fetish I can understand |
| 20:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45027 @ 0.00030891 = 13.9093 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
https://8ch.net/pol/res/1815910.html << just another cult. |
| 20:36 |
assbot |
/pol/ - The truth about shills: ... ( http://bit.ly/1zbEjSB ) |
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| 21:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00030992 = 16.2708 BTC [+] |
| 21:23 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell pete_dushenski check this shit out http://trilema.com/2015/stop-all-the-clocks-again/#comment-113916 |
| 21:23 |
assbot |
Stop all the clocks (again) on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FpuRvW ) |
| 21:23 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 21:23 |
mircea_popescu |
!up TheButterZone |
| 21:23 |
mircea_popescu |
dude, the whisper thing fucking works. |
| 21:25 |
hanbot |
whispercore? this is a thing? |
| 21:26 |
* |
mircea_popescu whispering ; apparently |
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| 22:01 |
menahem |
TheButterZone if you start making more tracks, I'mma get in on that! |
| 22:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.0003062 = 6.6445 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00030996 = 2.5107 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 22:54 |
mike_c |
;;later tell danielpbarron http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/NAPHEX/ |
| 22:54 |
assbot |
naphex WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJptqj ) |
| 22:54 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
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| 23:12 |
danielpbarron |
!up randy-waterhouse |
| 23:18 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: ...there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support... << where?! link plz. i'd buy at least one to try |
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| 23:19 |
asciilifeform |
<mircea_popescu> other than that, aglass of water is a computational machine << in the same sense as a fart, or even two electrons whizzing by in vacuum, are a computing machine. us earthlings are interested, for this reason, in -programmable- computators. |
| 23:21 |
asciilifeform |
<mircea_popescu> usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube << the only reason why they so easily sell this flavour of snake oil is that virtualizator gets you 'cpu cycles by the pound' and buckets of little arm boxes - don't (why not? because we never actually invented parallel processing or, especially, process migration. apparently. at least, unix world did not.) |
| 23:22 |
asciilifeform |
<jurov> maybe the only difference is computer science was constructed from mathematical (or not very mathematical, like strings) ideas ... << the notion that computing machines, as presently constructed, have some direct connection with what maths folks did in the 1930s is nebulous at best. even if commonly believed |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
<ben_vulpes> ... like that cemetary caretaker, eh? << if you know what his weapon of choice was, share - it would add some spiffy detail to the legend |
| 23:39 |
TheButterZone |
yay? |
| 23:42 |
danielpbarron |
hi TheButterZone :D |
| 23:43 |
TheButterZone |
hi |
| 23:43 |
danielpbarron |
!up EllieAsksWhy |
| 23:44 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Blythe Masters is going to make bitcoin respectable http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3446313/banking-and-capital-markets-trading-and-technology/derivatives-pioneer-blythe-masters-tackles-digital-currency.html |
| 23:44 |
assbot |
Derivatives Pioneer Blythe Masters Tackles Digital Currency | Institutional Investor ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJCOPB ) |
| 23:44 |
danielpbarron |
!up walltime |
| 23:44 |
asciilifeform |
'respectability' through shitwashing, l0l, 1,001st of these or what. snore. |
| 23:45 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Hello Daniel of Twitter! Wow, this is so exciting. I just replaced my keyboard, I was using the virtual one before, so I could barely type and was hesitant to visit here. |
| 23:46 |
danielpbarron |
hello! I had invited you in the past but I think this is your first time? |
| 23:46 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Daniel, am I driving everyone away by my presence? That happens in NRx Jackal Hour too :) |
| 23:46 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Yes, yes, this is my first time, thank you. |
| 23:46 |
danielpbarron |
nope, the contrary i'm sure; your presence will almost surely start up a conversation |
| 23:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.0003059 = 4.8944 BTC [-] |
| 23:46 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I often browse, lurk, read your logs though. On the sidelines, voiceless |
| 23:47 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I am still not convinced that Blythe Masters is truly a "master" of derivatives. She seems more like an investment banker/ figurehead. |
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| 23:47 |
danielpbarron |
get in the WoT then |
| 23:48 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I want to be in the WoT. I got a keybase.io key thingy. I was trying to figure out if I could use it for here. |
| 23:48 |
asciilifeform |
!s keybase |
| 23:48 |
assbot |
56 results for 'keybase' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=keybase |
| 23:48 |
asciilifeform |
EllieAsksWhy ^ read & get back. |
| 23:49 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Okay, thank you. I love how assbot bots on in. It is like a wonderful, interactive version of reddit. I shall return. |
| 23:50 |
danielpbarron |
in what way is this like reddit? |
| 23:51 |
asciilifeform |
in the sense of with sufficient lsd everything is quite like everything else ? |
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| 23:55 |
danielpbarron |
https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/592534533443952644 |
| 23:55 |
assbot |
/danielpbarron /crypto_zen Fodder for Mircea et al to dig into: http://t.co/XTSVRuiD1Z She says she's going to make bitcoin respectable. |
| 23:55 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Oh, on reddit, both the Dark Enlightenment and buttcoin sub-reddits, there are sarcastic/funny named bots that do silly things that make me laugh. Even though they are automated, the incongruity always amuses me. |
| 23:56 |
danielpbarron |
assbot keeps the harmony |
| 23:57 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I initially knew Web of Trust as the Finnish company mywot which has totally gone to hell since someone bought them out a year ago. Your Web of Trust is more like the real one, that proceeded mywot by over a decade, right? |
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| 23:57 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I love assbot. |
| 23:58 |
EllieAsksWhy |
Speaking of keybase.io horrors, this was my introduction to it <smile> https://github.com/keybase/keybase-issues/issues/100 |
| 23:58 |
assbot |
I don't understand tracking · Issue #100 · keybase/keybase-issues · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJGZuz ) |
| 23:58 |
Adlai |
reddit is inferior to irc on nearly the same level as the inferiority between facebook and actual conversation |
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| 23:59 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I noticed from the link provided by asciilifeform earlier, that Mircea knows about triplesec. That led me to this, which I'm not sure about https://github.com/keybase/triplesec/tree/master/talks/hack-and-tell%202013.10.22.key |
| 23:59 |
assbot |
triplesec/talks/hack-and-tell 2013.10.22.key at master · keybase/triplesec · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJHmp4 ) |
| 23:59 |
danielpbarron |
what is the real one, EllieAsksWhy, in regards to the WoT ? |
| 23:59 |
EllieAsksWhy |
I |
| 23:59 |
EllieAsksWhy |
The real one is not mywot.com |