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00:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.49199 = 4.476 BTC [-]
00:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49199 BTC [-]
00:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 580 @ 0.00172499 = 1.0005 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1260 @ 0.00071402 = 0.8997 BTC [+]
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01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49199 BTC [-]
01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49199 = 2.984 BTC [-]
01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.492 BTC [+]
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01:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01482 = 0.0296 BTC [-]
01:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.01485 = 0.2822 BTC [+]
01:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2305 @ 0.00071245 = 1.6422 BTC [-]
01:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00070105 = 16.9654 BTC [-]
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01:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0145 BTC [-]
02:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13285 @ 0.00069824 = 9.2761 BTC [-]
02:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
02:18 Chaaang-Noi asic miner sold all of their blades in less than 2 hours.. 50 of them!
02:18 Chaaang-Noi and he claims to be able to ship many more, :)
02:19 inhies_ yup yup
02:19 inhies_ good news indeed
02:19 inhies_ how many shares are there?
02:19 inhies_ 400k?
02:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10814 @ 0.00068973 = 7.4587 BTC [-]
02:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00068684 = 2.0262 BTC [-]
02:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7286 @ 0.00068375 = 4.9818 BTC [-]
02:21 Chaaang-Noi 400k but only 163k outstanding
02:22 Chaaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.7400 relates to am's stock price more than btc atm
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03:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 44 @ 0.01518999 = 0.6684 BTC [-]
03:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.01519 = 0.5468 BTC [+]
03:07 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.010098 = 0.0909 BTC [+]
03:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.494 BTC [+]
03:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069805 = 3.0163 BTC [+]
03:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17279 @ 0.00069824 = 12.0649 BTC [+]
03:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 300 @ 0.014745 = 4.4235 BTC [-]
03:18 assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
03:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01519 = 0.0608 BTC [+]
03:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4251 BTC [-]
03:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.01519 = 0.3949 BTC [+]
03:40 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 33 @ 0.014701 = 0.4851 BTC [-]
03:40 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 60 @ 0.0147 = 0.882 BTC [-]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.014571 = 0.0291 BTC [-]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 11 @ 0.014501 = 0.1595 BTC [-]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 300 @ 0.014501 = 4.3503 BTC [-]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 94 @ 0.0145 = 1.363 BTC [-]
03:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.492 = 4.476 BTC [-]
03:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.493 = 5.972 BTC [+]
03:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4925 BTC [-]
04:05 jurov asciilifeform, is that you? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1e4b9s/the_only_truly_secure_way_to_use_bitcoin_from_a/
04:07 KRS1 u can write a rootkit into the kernel?
04:07 KRS1 it might help facilitate a rootkit's workings but ..no.
04:15 dub first bottle of champaign in the new house down
04:17 KRS1 how much for a pair of these in BTC
04:17 KRS1 http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135136546747.jpg
04:17 KRS1 bah nvm..guess thats only available in Romania
04:18 FabianB_ QA rejected? lol
04:19 KRS1 yeah must be discount for that
04:19 KRS1 thats actually kind of funny i didnt notice it at first
04:20 Chaaang-Noi http://gifs.gifbin.com/042009/1240325175_roflbrothel.gif
04:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01484 BTC [+]
04:36 KRS1 haha thats a good one..roflcopter and all
04:41 Chaaang-Noi for the people following the german house thing, i think its legit after all, i made a bid.
04:42 Chaaang-Noi however he is now demanding 150 btc reserve so meh.
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00339 = 0.1695 BTC [+]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.003605 = 0.3461 BTC [+]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 154 @ 0.003609 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.003609 = 0.0686 BTC [+]
04:51 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 7 @ 0.00105 = 0.0074 BTC [+]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
04:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00304 BTC [+]
05:05 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 33 @ 0.016499 = 0.5445 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 67 @ 0.0165 = 1.1055 BTC [+]
05:09 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.1079 = 2.158 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
05:24 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 380 @ 0.00105 = 0.399 BTC [+]
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05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.00325138 = 8.4536 BTC [-]
05:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1863 @ 0.00323672 = 6.03 BTC [-]
05:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4929 BTC [+]
06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16481 @ 0.00069824 = 11.5077 BTC [+]
06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4667 @ 0.00070527 = 3.2915 BTC [+]
06:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010098 BTC [+]
06:18 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 113 @ 0.00105 = 0.1187 BTC [+]
06:20 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2398 BTC [+]
06:22 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 53 @ 0.001199 = 0.0635 BTC [+]
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00069809 = 6.7366 BTC [-]
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00069664 = 3.0102 BTC [-]
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17672 @ 0.00069643 = 12.3073 BTC [-]
06:28 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
06:28 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 115.50003, Best ask: 115.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 115.69000, 24 hour volume: 60390.73315900, 24 hour low: 114.00000, 24 hour high: 122.50000, 24 hour vwap: 118.55923
06:30 KRS1 how'dy
06:33 mircea_popescu pretty good actually.
06:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1233 @ 0.00070527 = 0.8696 BTC [+]
06:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070586 = 3.05 BTC [+]
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00070587 = 4.9411 BTC [+]
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3746 @ 0.00071052 = 2.6616 BTC [+]
06:37 mircea_popescu http://www.theonion.com/articles/teenage-girl-blossoming-into-beautiful-object,31061/
06:37 mircea_popescu the onion is seriously the most respectable us news source.
06:40 Chaaang-Noi the onion can be prettygood
06:40 mircea_popescu of course their intent is to lampoon normal female maturation into "Something bad". as if staying a retarded 7yo is somehow the ideal and we all missed the memo.
06:41 Chaaang-Noi i s da board, btc world is the slow
06:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.0147 = 0.2646 BTC [-]
06:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.01468 = 0.4698 BTC [-]
06:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 93 @ 0.01475001 = 1.3718 BTC [-]
06:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 408 @ 0.01475 = 6.018 BTC [-]
06:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.01484 = 0.2523 BTC [+]
06:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.01485 = 0.4604 BTC [+]
06:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01488 = 0.0298 BTC [+]
06:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 96 @ 0.01489 = 1.4294 BTC [+]
06:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.493 BTC [+]
06:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [+]
06:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.4968 = 14.968 BTC [+]
06:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4969 BTC [+]
06:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01468 = 0.1468 BTC [-]
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07:18 mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196189.msg2041480#msg2041480
07:18 mircea_popescu i lolled in my absent beard.
07:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [-]
07:36 jurov how big btc price expectation does this asic fever show?
07:36 jurov did anyone do some maffs?
07:36 truffles Chaang isnt the bidding over 100btc
07:36 jurov but he bought asicminer, no?
07:37 mircea_popescu jurov maths not allowed
07:37 truffles talking about the German house
07:37 mircea_popescu i actually suspect a large section of the btc failnoobs are here because they think bitcoin being based on maffs means that it'll do all the maffing for them
07:37 jurov and im talking about asics
07:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3578 @ 0.00069643 = 2.4918 BTC [-]
07:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068919 = 2.978 BTC [-]
07:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 651 @ 0.00068918 = 0.4487 BTC [-]
07:38 jurov if these failnoobs managed to put together few hundred K$ of capital, then i'd agree
07:38 truffles 2+2 isnt the only kind of math
07:38 jurov but we're seeing buch bigger asic investment than that
07:40 jurov what does the house has with that?
07:41 mircea_popescu jurov you actually saw this ?
07:41 mircea_popescu or did you see it reported ?
07:43 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.00099 = 0.0248 BTC [-]
07:43 jurov no
07:44 mircea_popescu It says on their website:
07:44 mircea_popescu "The systems Vircurex.com and Cryptostocks.com have been taken offline over the weekend
07:44 mircea_popescu Please do not deposit any further coins to your Vircurex accounts. We must assume that the wallet has been compromised."
07:44 mircea_popescu i guess all the people buying into the ipo got owned huh.
07:45 jurov yes i saw that. but they claim majority of coins was in cold store, just have to rebuild server completely
07:46 mircea_popescu can't be too good for share price.
07:47 truffles <jurov> what does the house has with that?>> nothing, i just looked at the post
07:47 jurov yes, but...it's like 4th time with vircurex. everyone got used to it
07:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.49 = 5.96 BTC [-]
07:51 mircea_popescu lolk
07:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070327 = 3.0388 BTC [+]
07:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00070342 = 0.574 BTC [+]
07:59 Chaaang-Noi truffles> Chaang isnt the bidding over 100btc for waht?
08:00 Chaaang-Noi of german house, yeah i did 50
08:01 Chaaang-Noi that guy wont sell it i bet, he is demanding 150 btc now
08:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01512 BTC [+]
08:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01485 = 0.7425 BTC [+]
08:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.4974 = 8.9844 BTC [+]
08:08 mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198523.0 got milk ?!
08:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4974 BTC [+]
08:11 truffles <Chaaang-Noi> that guy wont sell it i bet, he is demanding 150 btc now>> oh i didnt see the demand heh
08:11 truffles i bet he thought it would go really high
08:12 Chaaang-Noi he said no reserve
08:12 Chaaang-Noi now he is demanding 150, so i bid 50 from the 44.44444 or whatever
08:12 truffles i thouth i saw 110 or 115 somewhere
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 165 @ 0.003013 = 0.4971 BTC [-]
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 109 @ 0.003012 = 0.3283 BTC [-]
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00301 = 0.1505 BTC [-]
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 876 @ 0.003 = 2.628 BTC [-]
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
08:14 Chaaang-Noi not that i saw
08:15 KRS1 heh
08:15 truffles i think theyre going to re-do the auction in another thread of things dont go as planned
08:15 Chaaang-Noi he tried that
08:15 Chaaang-Noi im okay if he does re do it as long as there is no reserve
08:15 Chaaang-Noi house is not worth 150 btc
08:15 Chaaang-Noi 50 btc is about it
08:16 truffles u dont want to go hunting in Canada ?
08:18 Chaaang-Noi lol
08:18 truffles if u do get it, all of btc knows where to find u
08:19 Chaaang-Noi its not like im going to live there (often)
08:19 truffles is that your wife in profile pic?
08:19 truffles she's hawt
08:20 Chaaang-Noi yeah, and yeah
08:21 truffles u have such a babyface
08:21 Chaaang-Noi yeah i look damn young for my age
08:21 kakobrekla lol mircea_popescu
08:21 truffles me2
08:22 truffles anyways, i dont think u want that house
08:23 truffles although u seem rly determined to get what you want heh
08:23 Chaaang-Noi i think i can resell it and make money if i get it for 50 btc
08:24 Chaaang-Noi if he wont sell it to me, i can call him a scammer if he wants to be a bitch in the future
08:25 truffles if its valued at 277 like he says whyd he want to sell it for btc
08:25 Chaaang-Noi i think he is a pot head
08:25 Chaaang-Noi i think he one of the guys that got into btc cuz silk road :/
08:26 truffles turrble
08:26 Chaaang-Noi he just does not seem that bright, who sells a house online in a qweek with no address or escrow? lol
08:26 truffles too good to be true
08:27 truffles well todays the deadline
08:27 truffles looking forward to the shenanigans
08:27 Chaaang-Noi yeah, i wont wait up for it
08:27 Chaaang-Noi it wont go over 150
08:28 truffles so u'd renovate before reselling?
08:29 KRS1 heh yes..the onion deserves some props for that article
08:29 Chaaang-Noi maybe no idea, id let it sit fora few years honestly
08:29 Chaaang-Noi got better shit to do
08:29 KRS1 needed moar illustrations though..i didnt get a good idea for just how beautiful the blossom became.
08:30 truffles if what whomever said is true, 5 yrs til u can bulldozer it
08:30 truffles KRS1 what?
08:30 Chaaang-Noi the outside looked really nice
08:31 truffles lol
08:31 KRS1 the blossom article in the onion
08:31 truffles link!
08:31 KRS1 umms..
08:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00068932 = 2.9786 BTC [-]
08:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26829 @ 0.00068918 = 18.49 BTC [-]
08:32 KRS1 <mircea_popescu> http://www.theonion.com/articles/teenage-girl-blossoming-into-beautiful-object,31061/
08:32 KRS1 there
08:32 mircea_popescu KRS1 good point, they did fail at that.
08:32 Chaaang-Noi 17s are still taboo in the usa, theyd never show as much as they should...
08:32 truffles oh thanks
08:34 ThickAsThieves heh, friedcat sold 50 more blades overnight https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201753.0
08:34 ThickAsThieves 50btc ea
08:34 truffles i had to tell my brain "this is an onion article" heh
08:35 KRS1 yeah kinda different huh
08:36 ThickAsThieves i almost never find the Onion to be funny
08:36 ThickAsThieves it's like Mad Magazine for adults
08:36 truffles some news ive come across sound like theyre out of the onion..
08:36 kakobrekla 50btc per blade?
08:37 ThickAsThieves yep
08:37 kakobrekla does this solve 2 blocks in its lifetime?
08:37 ThickAsThieves not my concern
08:37 Chaaang-Noi kako they sold 50 of them in less than 2 hours and people bid for 50 more
08:37 Chaaang-Noi kako who gives a fuck if you hold AM stock eh? :)
08:37 kakobrekla blah
08:37 kakobrekla i dont
08:38 Chaaang-Noi why you want to buy a blad then?
08:38 ThickAsThieves he doesnt
08:38 kakobrekla just curious mostly
08:38 Chaaang-Noi maybe its just shock of the made btc the AM stock holders are getting :)
08:38 Chaaang-Noi yeah, i do wonder if its worth what people are paying
08:38 kakobrekla id give 10 btc for it tops
08:38 mircea_popescu Chaaang-Noi you know, i've been reviewing this. 0.0007 per share per week does not go very far.
08:39 Chaaang-Noi but i have almost no hope that bfl will ship in the next 6 months their 25 ghs units or bigger
08:39 mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.0007 * 400000 * 4
08:39 gribble 1120
08:39 ThickAsThieves so if they pay that out in divs, we might hit .015 div this week
08:39 Chaaang-Noi mp last week was .0011
08:39 ThickAsThieves maybe more
08:39 mircea_popescu let me explain this better :
08:39 mircea_popescu ;;calc 20007 / 4 / 400000
08:39 gribble 0.012504375
08:39 Chaaang-Noi last week was .0011 and that was not with selling anything
08:39 Chaaang-Noi just being 20% of the network
08:39 mircea_popescu you need to hit 0.012 for 4 weeks straigjht to equal s.dice
08:40 mircea_popescu that's 10x what it's doing now, for 4 weeks straight.
08:40 Chaaang-Noi lol dice
08:40 ThickAsThieves mp, that will happen
08:40 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe it will. he was arguing really strongly that am is a contender two days ago.
08:40 mircea_popescu i did the math, turns out he's a degree of magnitude off, as per usual
08:41 mircea_popescu the funny thing with Chaaang-Noi is that math illiterate people are equally likely to blow a degree of magnitude either direction
08:41 Chaaang-Noi am has been paying out for 2 months, sdice for a year, but like i said, come back in a year andsee what is up :)
08:41 mircea_popescu he however only blows it the direction that favours his bias.
08:41 ThickAsThieves theyll keep selling products, and ramping up hash rate to keep or exceed current % for at least month
08:41 ThickAsThieves and then he'll probably announce some new product
08:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe so. this discussion is not about the future however.
08:41 ThickAsThieves word
08:42 Chaaang-Noi mp im not sure what you are attacking? its pretty clear am is better investment at ipo than s dice, why is it so hard for you to understand?
08:42 mircea_popescu Chaaang-Noi you claimed coupla days ago that am is going to pay more div than s.dice
08:42 Chaaang-Noi yeah, the future counts, if you only want to look at the last 2 months AM kills s.dice
08:42 mircea_popescu it is not, and it's not even close, at all.
08:42 ThickAsThieves sdice got a PR person, thats a good sign
08:42 ThickAsThieves of course that person's wages will polish off 10-25% of profits this month...
08:42 Chaaang-Noi mp AM will in its lifetime pay shit loads more than sdice as a percentage of money invested
08:43 mircea_popescu sigh.
08:43 ThickAsThieves Chaang we d can't know that
08:43 mircea_popescu look. s.dice has maid and paid ~70k btc so far.
08:43 ThickAsThieves SDICE can still turn things around
08:43 Chaaang-Noi i know, that is why i said i will come back in a yeah and lulz
08:43 mircea_popescu asicminer is a. never got that much invested ; b. never got that much traded in its lifetime history ; c. barely paid 10% of that in dividends so far.
08:43 mircea_popescu they were both started about the same time (april 2012)
08:44 mircea_popescu that's the whole story. stop confounding your hopes for the future with the history of the world,
08:44 mircea_popescu they're not cognates.
08:44 Chaaang-Noi mp who cares what a company pays out, im talking about making the most btc per money invested (what is better 5 btc on 1 btc invested or 234095834 on 340958039458908345098304958093459034 invested?
08:44 mircea_popescu not everybody is desperately trying to turn their fifty bucks into a million.
08:44 Chaaang-Noi AM is up what 1500% and paid 3005 in divs? s.dice is what down 20% and paid what 30% in divs? lol
08:44 mircea_popescu and quite frankly i dislike that particular outlook because it's just bad for business, and for bitcoin in general.
08:45 Chaaang-Noi well mp, i could give a flying fuck and think you are just jelly :)
08:45 mircea_popescu sure, you tend to think whatever's convenient at the moment,
08:45 mircea_popescu which is why only new people give a shit what you think.
08:45 Chaaang-Noi i turned 5k usd into a millionn, so the fuck what?
08:45 KRS1 wait..you can turn fifty bucks into a million with this bitcoin stuff
08:46 mircea_popescu back to the matter at hand : pumping is a bad idea. universally.
08:46 mircea_popescu and will end in bitchslapping. universally.
08:46 mircea_popescu gigavps is dead.
08:46 Chaaang-Noi i could care less what people think about me, im a fucking goat!
08:46 truffles lol
08:46 mircea_popescu you're more resilient than him because you have no backbone, but that doesn't amount to much.
08:46 KRS1 i could use some pumps yo..where they at
08:46 Chaaang-Noi krs1 k5 usd worth of AM at ipo is worth about a million or so now
08:46 KRS1 goddamn
08:47 Chaaang-Noi mp going to attack my backbone cuz he cant take my logic :? jelly man, its jsut sad
08:47 KRS1 and i probably remember looking at the shares and bein all like..pfft.
08:47 truffles this btc stuff is srs biz
08:47 Chaaang-Noi ill be riddin in my lambo, mp be hatin,
08:47 KRS1 they see me rollin...they hatin....
08:48 truffles riding dirty r u
08:48 Chaaang-Noi i will be
08:48 KRS1 usually..i stepped up the ante a bit lately though.
08:48 KRS1 Chaang-Noi be like..."I WOKE UP IN A NEW BUGATTI"
08:49 KRS1 thats gangster
08:49 KRS1 good for you bro..
08:49 Chaaang-Noi fuck they are like 3.5 million euro?
08:49 KRS1 yeh..its a new rap song too.
08:49 Chaaang-Noi even if i had that to spend on a car id not
08:49 kakobrekla Chaaang-Noi you got a mil in AM?
08:49 KRS1 i dun like the song though its annoying
08:49 Chaaang-Noi kako ill ahve to do the maffs hold on
08:50 kakobrekla Chaaang-Noi: sell.
08:50 truffles id keep it in the garage
08:50 KRS1 although I'd be nervous about those shares..
08:50 KRS1 must be really nice dividends
08:51 ThickAsThieves I bought my first 100 AM shares from Chaang
08:51 Chaaang-Noi my 5k usd investment would not be worth 957,000 at current prices, but i ahve been slowly selling all the way up so no, i dont have a million in AM (oh but shit, forgot about all the dividends,that is just stock price)
08:51 Chaaang-Noi id say i made ball park 800k usd in AM
08:51 kakobrekla id pull out
08:51 Chaaang-Noi but i really killed it in LTC
08:51 KRS1 LTC still have room to go?
08:51 Chaaang-Noi 400k ltc, muhahahaha
08:52 Chaaang-Noi iv been selling ltc hard since 6$
08:52 ThickAsThieves this is kinda interesting https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195523.0
08:52 KRS1 nice
08:52 Chaaang-Noi ijust sold 5k more tonight and 10k last night
08:52 KRS1 does it still have future value and growth in your opinion?
08:52 truffles Chaaang u could afford 150 btc..
08:52 Chaaang-Noi im moving all that shit back into btc
08:52 kakobrekla i still cant belive those ltc are valued so high
08:52 Chaaang-Noi but wtf am i going to do with a dirt house in germany?
08:52 Chaaang-Noi kakop im shocked too
08:52 Chaaang-Noi still $3!
08:52 truffles bling it up
08:53 Chaaang-Noi meh
08:53 Chaaang-Noi mp will get jelly and go burn it down
08:53 kakobrekla ltc is like bitcoin 3years ago
08:53 truffles lol
08:53 kakobrekla 5 scam sites accept it
08:53 KRS1 so that should say something about the future of ltc
08:53 ThickAsThieves not necessarily
08:53 Chaaang-Noi kako i think gox will not list it, and people will lose interest, i might buy back in when it goes way less than it is now
08:53 Chaaang-Noi i only hold like 100k now, sold more for btc (some fiat)
08:54 Chaaang-Noi there be like 2k altcoins now, but namecoin and ltc has been around
08:54 ThickAsThieves ltc only real use is an instrument to play off BTC
08:54 ThickAsThieves you can mine w GPU to sell for BTC
08:54 KRS1 thats the only value I see imo
08:54 ThickAsThieves you can speculated a bit against BTC/USD
08:55 ThickAsThieves speculate*
08:55 ThickAsThieves without BTC, LTC is useless
08:55 Chaaang-Noi lol
08:56 KRS1 but not the other way around right?
08:56 Chaaang-Noi if btc breaks or forks itself ltc is all we gotz
08:56 ThickAsThieves not true
08:56 ThickAsThieves just pick a fork
08:56 Chaaang-Noi i mostly got into ltc so hard cuz i thought if btc forks itself ltc willbe king
08:56 ThickAsThieves both could even coexist
08:56 Chaaang-Noi well, maybe i got lucky, i dont give a fuck
08:56 KRS1 on same blockchain?
08:57 ThickAsThieves if it forked there'd be two chains
08:57 ThickAsThieves and we dont know how peopel would react
08:57 ThickAsThieves maybe they respect both separately
08:57 ThickAsThieves and the value halves
08:57 ThickAsThieves i dunno
08:57 KRS1 some btc would not be able to be verified right
08:58 ThickAsThieves maybe someone makes BTC 2.0 plan and lets peopel migrate
08:58 ThickAsThieves maybe dev should come with a plan in the case of a real fork
08:58 KRS1 like Luke-Jr who say a 51% attack of LTC will happen with a few FPGA's
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1920 @ 0.00068918 = 1.3232 BTC [-]
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10303 @ 0.00068375 = 7.0447 BTC [-]
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00068374 = 7.5553 BTC [-]
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4827 @ 0.00068 = 3.2824 BTC [-]
09:03 ThickAsThieves lol, people are still bidding on those AM blades knowing auction is over, in hopes of forming a queue for next offering
09:04 KRS1 my bfl rig should be here in a couple of weeks..wish the goddamn difficulty would drop or something.
09:05 b0n1 KRS1, how can it drop?
09:06 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the model is something like this :
09:06 mircea_popescu whoever has enough money to matter is likely to pick one chain for whatever reason
09:06 KRS1 it can go up or down
09:06 mircea_popescu since fork means btc can be spent independently on either chain
09:06 mircea_popescu he will sell his btc on one and perhaps buy on the other.
09:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [+]
09:06 mircea_popescu as a result prices will rapidly diverge, panicking the mass of users, and the fork is economically resolved.
09:07 KRS1 mircea popescu: is it possible there is validation data in both chains that each doesnt know about the other?
09:07 mircea_popescu KRS1 im not sure how you mean ?
09:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4974 = 5.9896 BTC [+]
09:08 KRS1 from what i understand the transactions move data through the blockchain so if it splits, there could be transactional or validation data split up as well, maybe lost btc?
09:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.4975 = 11.98 BTC [+]
09:08 KRS1 maybe i have it wrong
09:08 KRS1 idk
09:08 mircea_popescu i think you do.
09:08 KRS1 ill go read up on it
09:08 mircea_popescu chains are just that, sequences of blocks, which are made up of txs
09:08 mircea_popescu if the chain splits there's basically two distinct histories
09:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.498 BTC [+]
09:08 Chaaang-Noi yeah 100 bids or 200 bids on the 50 AM blads :)
09:09 mircea_popescu which means everyone has 2x as many btc as he used to have : half on each fork
09:09 KRS1 and a split on the price
09:09 KRS1 kind of like a stock split
09:09 mircea_popescu not necessarioly an even split is what i mean.
09:09 KRS1 halving
09:09 mircea_popescu people with weight will just pick, sell the loser buy the winner
09:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.4989 = 10.4923 BTC [+]
09:09 mircea_popescu price will then diverge towards one chain closing in to 100% of the total.
09:09 davout or sell both and see what happens
09:10 mircea_popescu or that yes, but that's neutral for our model
09:10 KRS1 so its still a nasty situation..sounds sugar coated
09:10 mircea_popescu ie selling both or buying both doesn't matter.
09:10 mircea_popescu i don't see what's nasty about it.
09:10 KRS1 oh it equals out..the real loss is the panic
09:11 mircea_popescu well, you can see panic as an investment
09:11 mircea_popescu the drop from 260 to 100 was certainly an investment. people lost money in order to prove bitcoin is not a pump asnd dump.
09:11 Chaaang-Noi forking btc will be very bad for image, not so bad for btc (unless you personally lost transactions)
09:13 ThickAsThieves thats why there should be a plan
09:13 ThickAsThieves if there were an established plan
09:13 ThickAsThieves that would instill notable confidence
09:13 ThickAsThieves even today
09:13 ThickAsThieves they could even write it into the software
09:14 ThickAsThieves like if fork, then respect fork that = X
09:14 mircea_popescu it's not a software issue.
09:14 mircea_popescu it's a moneybags issue, and who's to say they don't have a plan ?
09:14 ThickAsThieves i'm just thinking conceptually
09:14 mircea_popescu even so. not all problems are approachable in code.
09:14 mircea_popescu in fact, most aren't.
09:15 mircea_popescu there is however a messaging system build into most clients, to notify merchants if there's a split etc.
09:15 mircea_popescu on the recent fork it proved itself to work quite well.
09:16 ThickAsThieves yeah, although mining pool operators being in communication quickly was the real save
09:16 mircea_popescu or mining pools being willing to lose money.
09:16 mircea_popescu i have serious doubts that's happening again. ideally it won't need to.
09:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4659 BTC [+]
09:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 25 @ 0.466 = 11.65 BTC [+]
09:19 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
09:19 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.57001, Best ask: 117.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.42999, Last trade: 116.57001, 24 hour volume: 42762.58612031, 24 hour low: 114.00000, 24 hour high: 122.00000, 24 hour vwap: 118.05232
09:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4989 BTC [+]
09:21 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00304 = 0.0304 BTC [+]
09:22 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00098 = 0.0196 BTC [-]
09:24 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 19 @ 0.000695 = 0.0132 BTC [-]
09:25 KRS1 See, Chaaang-Noi was saying what I was trying to say "lost transactions"
09:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00349 BTC [+]
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09:49 davout KRS1: transactions don't get lost, in case of a chain fork they should get included in both chains
09:49 Chaaang-Noi yeah but they can be double spent
09:50 davout not in the usual meaning of "double spend" though
09:51 davout they can be spent once, each time on one branch, but that's only sort of a double-spend
09:52 davout but spending them to different recipients on each chain would require some careful manual crafting, i'm not even sure it would be practically feasible
09:55 Chaaang-Noi you wouldhave to be ready for it, but i think it can be done
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 111 @ 0.003005 = 0.3336 BTC [-]
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 80 @ 0.00098 = 0.0784 BTC [-]
10:04 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 350 @ 0.00099 = 0.3465 BTC [+]
10:06 davout Chaaang-Noi: thinking about it, it wouldn't be that hard, would simply mean you'd have to craft different txes spending the same coins, to different recipients, that you know are on different branches, and broadcast them in a controlled way, the last part sounds like it'd be the hardest
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10:26 mircea_popescu ok, here goes : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-conference-second-edition/
10:26 mircea_popescu and now for my spamlist!
10:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform burnside coingenuity davout DBordello Diablo-D3 dub FabianB_ imsaguy jborkl jcpham kakobrekla leotreasure mod6 nanotube pgp rdponticelli smickles_ ThickAsThieves thestrin1puller topace_ and everyone else ^
10:29 Chaaang-Noi people are going to say you copied reptillia
10:29 mircea_popescu only people who weren't there at the 1st one lol
10:30 Chaaang-Noi that will be most people
10:30 mircea_popescu indeed.
10:30 mircea_popescu o ya i guess Ukto idles alot so he might miss it. ^
10:30 Chaaang-Noi he is back, jhe was traveling
10:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01469 = 0.0294 BTC [-]
10:31 Chaaang-Noi reptillia was too soon, your thing is ages away :/
10:31 mircea_popescu the fiorst edition was actually planned/invites sent in jan/feb.
10:31 mircea_popescu i plan ahead.
10:32 kakobrekla this is a year from now
10:32 kakobrekla almost
10:32 mircea_popescu yup
10:32 Chaaang-Noi sure 3 to 6 months is fine, but a year :) people will forget
10:32 mircea_popescu forget lol
10:33 davout Chaaang-Noi: looks like a functional brain will be required to attend
10:33 davout :-)
10:34 Chaaang-Noi nothing wrong with planning this far ahead, just kinda shocked
10:34 davout it is kinda shocking
10:34 Chaaang-Noi the VIP title however is lulz
10:35 Chaaang-Noi i hope reptillia gets one
10:35 rdponticelli Well, you can't say you weren't prepared... :p
10:38 Chaaang-Noi what exactly does the vip get other than a bill and a title?
10:38 Chaaang-Noi do they become a super node?
10:38 kakobrekla lol
10:39 mircea_popescu Chaaang-Noi doesn't like to read.
10:39 Chaaang-Noi i saw little of value gained
10:39 mircea_popescu give yourself time.
10:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01469 = 0.0735 BTC [-]
10:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4988 BTC [-]
10:46 kakobrekla seems like some extra food for the vips
10:46 mircea_popescu everybody else gets rice and beans
10:46 kakobrekla rice and soy sauce.
10:46 BitHub why no asicminer on mpex?
10:46 davout mircea_popescu: you mean vips get rice&beans, and the regulars get romanian food ?
10:46 davout :p
10:46 Chaaang-Noi AM would never work with mpex
10:46 BitHub how come?
10:46 Chaaang-Noi AM will not list on any exchange
10:46 Chaaang-Noi its not just mpex
10:46 BitHub yeah i know, but cant they just create an asset like the other PT's?
10:46 mircea_popescu BitHub the friedcat guy won't sign contracts basically.
10:46 Chaaang-Noi yeah, but MP would have to first buy AM stock, and he has been trying to short it since it was at .5
10:46 BitHub ahh okey
10:46 mircea_popescu why would i have to buy anything ?!
10:46 Chaaang-Noi you coudl sell counterfiet shares i guess
10:46 BitHub hehe
10:46 mircea_popescu i have no idea wtf you're on about nao.
10:46 Chaaang-Noi trust is an issue with the otehr exchanges, but the real reason is, AM does not need an exchange, AM has all the oney it will ever need and more
10:46 BitHub i think peeps would bring shares to mpex
10:46 Chaaang-Noi mp take some tim MP, you are a smart chap
10:46 Chaaang-Noi tehy could
10:46 BitHub but its teh contracts prob with Mr Friedcat
10:47 mircea_popescu being listed is not about asicminer's monwey.
10:47 mircea_popescu it's about the investors.
10:47 Chaaang-Noi friedcat has never contacted MP about listing on mpex, and i doubt MP has asked friedcat to list, but maybe he has, but anyway why the fuck would friedcat list? more risk, nothing gained
10:48 Chaaang-Noi the investors would be very upset if their shares were moved to mpex, however im sure if you wanted to do a pt no one would care
10:48 BitHub i think other PT's just did it on their own yeah? or did they have to get permission too?
10:48 Chaaang-Noi pt are not real shares
10:48 Chaaang-Noi no one has to get permission to run a pt cuz they are not really selling AM shares
10:49 BitHub okey, you just have to back the PT asset with real shares
10:49 Chaaang-Noi well you should...
10:49 Chaaang-Noi but no, you dont ahve to
10:49 BitHub lulz
10:49 Chaaang-Noi you could do so as a short
10:49 BitHub man this stuff gets confusing
10:49 Chaaang-Noi well...
10:50 Chaaang-Noi its best not to trust pts or exchanges if you dont have to
10:50 BitHub say 50 mpex users had asicminer shares direct with friedcat, and they wanted to create an assset on mpex with the shares
10:50 BitHub i mean they could do that right?
10:50 Chaaang-Noi liek someguy who sold 40,000 share of pirate pts who expected pirate to fail, could ahve just kept the money and paid the 5 or 6 weeks of interest
10:50 Chaaang-Noi once pirate failed they would ahve made shit loads of btc
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4262 BTC [-]
10:51 Chaaang-Noi you have to read the fine print of the pts to know if they are back by anything
10:52 BitHub cool, sorry to drag it on, just curious :)
10:52 Chaaang-Noi that is why this chan is here
10:52 Chaaang-Noi talking about assets and the like
10:52 BitHub cool, i love assets :)
10:53 BitHub are we caught in an asicminer bubble?
10:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.01512 = 0.3024 BTC [+]
10:55 Chaaang-Noi i think it is under valued
10:55 FabianB_ mircea_popescu: so Argentinia not before spring 2014 i guess :)
10:55 Chaaang-Noi they are the only guys in town who can mass produce assics
10:55 Chaaang-Noi and people are buying them at insane prices
10:56 BitHub yep
10:56 BitHub those recent ones sold out in 2 hours
10:56 mircea_popescu FabianB_ kinda that summer.
10:56 BitHub at around 50btc each
10:56 BitHub plus month or two going to insane hashrates yeh?
10:56 Chaaang-Noi 120 sold and oly 50 listed :)
10:56 Chaaang-Noi well, if we control the market we dont care what the hash rate is
10:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01512 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
10:57 BitHub what's impressed me the most is that unlike bfl and avalon ontop of selling devices they are opening mining as well
10:57 BitHub openly*
10:58 BitHub so i guess 3btc a share at some point this year is doable?
11:00 Chaaang-Noi well, keep in mind they keep paying out weekly dividends, share price is not the goal, total profit for the ipo holders is the goal
11:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.4988 = 4.4964 BTC [-]
11:00 Chaaang-Noi we might hit 3 btc each i dont know, but dividends paid out plust share price will be pretty awesome
11:00 mircea_popescu mjr___ here you signup lol
11:01 BitHub ipo holders = shares direct with friedcat?
11:01 Chaaang-Noi well at this point all stock holders
11:01 Chaaang-Noi but the goal is not stock prices, its total btc in the pocket of the investors or stock holders
11:01 BitHub that is a good goal :)
11:05 FabianB_ ;;bc,convert eur
11:05 gribble 1 BTC = 116.00000 U.S. dollars = 89.3544908 Euros
11:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4988 = 7.494 BTC [-]
11:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.01489 = 0.0298 BTC [+]
11:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.014899 = 0.0745 BTC [+]
11:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.0149 = 0.3874 BTC [+]
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01512 = 0.0302 BTC [+]
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01512 BTC [+]
11:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4988 BTC [-]
11:22 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [-]
11:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00068508 = 8.5978 BTC [+]
11:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00068282 = 5.9747 BTC [-]
11:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5173 @ 0.00068 = 3.5176 BTC [-]
11:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1177 @ 0.00067001 = 0.7886 BTC [-]
11:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.4988 = 17.9856 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.499 BTC [+]
11:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.499 BTC [+]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0149 = 0.0745 BTC [+]
12:04 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0164 = 0.41 BTC [-]
12:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0031 = 1.55 BTC [-]
12:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
12:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.499 = 11.992 BTC [+]
12:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49997 BTC [+]
12:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49998 BTC [+]
12:31 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1078 = 0.539 BTC [+]
12:32 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1078 = 0.539 BTC [+]
12:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00068204 = 10.9126 BTC [+]
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13:04 mircea_popescu: is that my invitation to be a VIP? ;)
13:04 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.104001 = 0.728 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.0145 = 0.087 BTC [-]
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4278 = 2.139 BTC [+]
13:09 KRS-1 lol Zzzzzzzz
13:09 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01512 = 2.268 BTC [+]
13:12 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01279 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00068204 = 12.2085 BTC [+]
13:14 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01275 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.012608 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
13:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49998 BTC [+]
13:20 mircea_popescu http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/05/the-washington-super-whale-hedge-fundies-the-federal-reserve-and-bernanke-hatred.html
13:20 mircea_popescu this is pretty good.
13:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: "the bezzle."
13:26 mircea_popescu what about it ?
13:26 mircea_popescu a a. yes.
13:26 mircea_popescu exacrtly.
13:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: just the fact that the fake money will eventually circulate. and the consequences, etc.
13:26 mircea_popescu yup
13:31 jurov well, where's the fake money now and how can we see when it starts being spent?
13:31 jurov now it's just moved back and forth between banks and reserve?
13:31 asciilifeform jurov: when the U.S. dollar price of your lunch equals today's price of a used car.
13:32 jurov obv but that's a consequence, not a cause
13:32 asciilifeform jurov: yes, but that's the barometer to watch.
13:33 jurov i was thinking that maybe there's some thing to watch for *before* hyperinflation kicks in
13:34 jurov or are you saying it's past already?
13:34 asciilifeform I predict that American hyperinflation will lead to counter-intuitively slow rises in the price of gold and BTC. From the fact that large gold/BTC holders stuck in America will be selling off their stashes to buy basic necessities.
13:34 mircea_popescu yeah, jurov : you can watch the stock exchange.
13:34 mircea_popescu the fact that the indexes are up is proof.
13:35 mircea_popescu the us economy was never this weak. not in 1950, not in 1939, never.
13:36 mircea_popescu well... yeah, maybe in 1820 or something.
13:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: 1820: agrarian America, most people did not depend on a working economy as such for physical survival. no comparison.
13:38 jurov so all the fake money is circulating in stocks and forex atm?
13:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which is why i didn't consider it originally. but on a purely semantic basis it has to be pointed out.
13:38 mircea_popescu jurov pretty much. mostly us stocks.
13:40 asciilifeform when considering the purpose of the fake money printing, I can think of two distinct goals: (1) keep the spreadsheets from failing checksum (prop up the charade of an American "economy") and (2) keep the hookers, cocaine, jets, etc. flowing to the "nobility" despite their total economic/social irrelevance.
13:41 mircea_popescu neither of these is the point.
13:41 asciilifeform So I won't be surprised when at some point the charade ends and the tinted window fellows will be handed actual titles of nobility.
13:41 mircea_popescu the fed simply makes money on the bonds they buy.
13:41 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, but ultimately why.
13:42 mircea_popescu because the system is broken.
13:42 mircea_popescu understand, cancerous cells aren't there conspiring to fuck up the body.
13:42 mircea_popescu they are there working dilligently at a bad definition of what the job is.
13:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, they're just hungry and stupid.
13:42 mircea_popescu and as a result fucking up the body.
13:43 mircea_popescu exactly. the fed is hungry and stupid. it goes "so we make 2% on 10trn which is 200bn and if we print another 10trn we make 400 bn instead ? go for it!"
13:43 mircea_popescu "what'as the worst that can happen, inflation ? that measn the economy has resuscitated, win"
13:43 jurov <asciilifeform> I predict .... counter-intuitively slow rises in the price of gold <<< i think that is only possible if fed somehow proves the gold is there
13:44 asciilifeform what I suspect is that at some point there will be a shift to a rather different, more Latin American social order, where the nobles are simply given bank cards with $ PosInfinity balance
13:44 mircea_popescu jurov he obviously means the fake gold nobody wants anymore.
13:44 asciilifeform and dispense with the elaborate spreadsheet charade.
13:44 mircea_popescu this is already the case.
13:46 asciilifeform but, at the moment, there is still an effort to keep up the pretense that there is an actual economy, where physical goods are produced, bought and sold at a profit, plebes are paid salaries from a fraction of the proceeds, etc.
13:47 asciilifeform the next step is the slow outright Sovietization
13:47 asciilifeform the permanently-unemployed say hello to the kolkhoz, and so on
13:47 mircea_popescu "An analysis of Iksil's trades revealed that he was using Microsoft Excel excessively, making a number of formula errors that caused him to underestimate the risks of his positions."
13:47 mircea_popescu this is pretty grand.
13:47 jurov how can anything major happen slowly in current situation?
13:48 mircea_popescu jurov practically speaking, because the world is mostly made out of Chaaang-Nois.
13:48 asciilifeform jurov: inertia.
13:48 mircea_popescu there's never a shortage of people who, if forced to eat shit by the spoon, would rather claim this savarine is wonderful
13:48 mircea_popescu than admit they're eating shit.
13:49 mircea_popescu in fact, there's rarely not a majority available.
13:49 mircea_popescu this is how force works, fundamentally.
13:49 asciilifeform with the little twist that ultimately if you eat shit instead of food long enough, you die.
13:50 mircea_popescu niot really.
13:50 mircea_popescu if it's poorly digested stuff coming out of some obese overlord you can live forever on the kernels.
13:51 asciilifeform jurov: re: gold: eventually the physical metals market will decouple from the idiot paper-metal chump harvester. That's when the confiscation gasenwagen revvs up.
13:51 jurov i don't contend that, only that the govts don't have so complete control than in 20th century and it's maybe easier to cause panic
13:52 asciilifeform and not the wimpy FDR confiscation. the Soviet one. where possession of bullion carried the same penalty as murder.
13:52 asciilifeform "economic terrorism."
13:52 asciilifeform see: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/04/financial-totalitarianism.html
13:52 jurov okay, such thing will certainly not come slowly
13:53 asciilifeform jurov: slowly enough. the first step will be punitive taxation of metals (see the imminent U.S. national sales tax as a base to work from.)
13:54 jurov that will potentially cause masses of americans start using internet black market
13:55 jurov will be interesting whether the surveillance infrastructure will be efficient enough to prevent
13:55 asciilifeform jurov: that's when the "Bitcoin as NSA honeypot" hypothesis will be tested until red-hot.
13:56 asciilifeform but the fun might end rather abruptly (at least in the U.S.) when the rolling blackouts begin.
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01512 = 0.0302 BTC [+]
13:58 asciilifeform think: lead (and, naturally brass) "bullion" instead of gold and silver. "The lead standard."
13:59 jurov rolling blackouts? then any forecasts are off, almost all usual econ activity will cease
13:59 asciilifeform jurov: the paper economy, yes. but people will still want to live, and will try.
13:59 asciilifeform jurov: ask MP about his gold bus.
14:01 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> jurov: that's when the "Bitcoin as NSA honeypot" hypothesis will be tested until red-hot. <<< ehehe.
14:04 mircea_popescu you know this is pretty cool, a few people already stated they're coming next year.
14:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01512 = 0.0454 BTC [+]
14:06 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.012691 = 0.3807 BTC [+]
14:06 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01269 BTC [-]
14:06 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01262 = 0.1262 BTC [-]
14:07 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 300 @ 0.012607 = 3.7821 BTC [-]
14:07 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.012606 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
14:07 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.012604 = 0.5042 BTC [-]
14:07 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0126 BTC [-]
14:07 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.012501 = 0.5375 BTC [-]
14:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0149 = 0.0596 BTC [+]
14:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.49998 = 5.9999 BTC [+]
14:19 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1078 BTC [+]
14:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.49998 = 4.4999 BTC [+]
14:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0149 = 0.149 BTC [+]
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01499 = 0.075 BTC [-]
14:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [-]
14:36 assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
14:39 ThickerThanThiev WTB ASICMINER shares in bulk for a good price, pm with offer
14:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00068204 = 13.5044 BTC [+]
14:40 ThickAsThieves wrong nick
14:40 ThickAsThieves WTB ASICMINER shares in bulk for a good price, pm with offer
14:40 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: you do realize you can just /nick nick right?
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2992 = 0.5984 BTC [-]
14:42 ThickAsThieves yeah
14:43 ThickAsThieves this was faster
14:43 ThickAsThieves typing is so hard
14:44 jurov wanna get thicker?
14:44 ThickAsThieves really i just didnt think about it, and mIRC has a nifty connect/disconnect button
14:44 ThickAsThieves all my channels are saved
14:44 ThickAsThieves etc
14:44 ThickAsThieves thicker?
14:48 jurov --> ThickerThanThiev has joined this channel
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2491 @ 0.00067833 = 1.6897 BTC [-]
14:49 ThickAsThieves ah
14:50 ThickAsThieves i have no answer
14:50 ThickAsThieves more loyal than loyal?
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 145 @ 0.01499 = 2.1736 BTC [-]
14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 91 @ 0.014995 = 1.3645 BTC [+]
14:52 jurov i know. no homo.
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 259 @ 0.014995 = 3.8837 BTC [+]
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 91 @ 0.01512 = 1.3759 BTC [+]
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01514 = 2.271 BTC [+]
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 290 @ 0.01514999 = 4.3935 BTC [+]
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 110 @ 0.01515 = 1.6665 BTC [+]
14:53 ThickAsThieves nice
14:53 jurov very. how much you made on them? 20%
14:53 jurov ?
14:55 ThickAsThieves those werent all me
14:55 ThickAsThieves but calculating my profit
14:55 ThickAsThieves is tough
14:55 ThickAsThieves as I have been reinvesting all earnings
14:55 ThickAsThieves to buy more shares
14:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49998 = 3 BTC [+]
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 143 @ 0.015145 = 2.1657 BTC [-]
14:56 ThickAsThieves i can say i have yet to sell a share for less than 10% profit
14:56 ThickAsThieves i bought before the recent rally
14:57 ThickAsThieves and sold the whole way
14:57 ThickAsThieves I'd like to get to 5000 shares ASAP
14:57 ThickAsThieves for a board seat
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.015145 = 0.318 BTC [-]
15:01 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.003444 = 0.0861 BTC [+]
15:02 benkay any ideas on pgp libraries for java?
15:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30000009 BTC [+]
15:03 benkay i just want to (encrypt key message)
15:03 benkay waaah
15:06 jurov ;;bc,stats
15:07 gribble Current Blocks: 235696 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 175 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 23 hours, 51 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11107467.1478 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.23367
15:08 jurov benkay, execute pgp externally?
15:08 benkay as in shell out to?
15:08 benkay i'd rather not.
15:09 jurov yes. most libraries do tht anyway
15:09 benkay but i may do that anyways.
15:09 mircea_popescu benkay in case you missed it earlier
15:10 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-conference-second-edition/
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.303172 BTC [-]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.303171 BTC [-]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.30317 BTC [-]
15:10 FabianB_ benkay: bouncy castle
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.302872 = 1.5144 BTC [-]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 8 @ 0.3 = 2.4 BTC [-]
15:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49998 = 3 BTC [+]
15:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.0006737 = 8.4549 BTC [-]
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
15:17 jurov reptilia does not disappoint: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg2103754#msg2103754
15:17 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18607 BTC [-]
15:17 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.186 BTC [-]
15:17 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1855 = 0.371 BTC [-]
15:18 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.1832 = 1.0992 BTC [-]
15:18 jurov he was here before beginning of time
15:19 jurov and had exposure before buying any
15:19 mircea_popescu well, i like that at least he's claiming to have been following the girl's guidelines.
15:19 ThickAsThieves he's a reptile after all
15:19 ThickAsThieves maybe a dinosaur?
15:19 FabianB_ benkay: found http://www.bouncycastle.org/?
15:20 benkay oh yah
15:20 mircea_popescu: which hotel?
15:20 benkay thanks for responding btw
15:20 mircea_popescu he was expecting everyone to buiy it up to 100k per btc by xcmas a few weeks ago
15:20 I ain't going if I don't like the digs
15:20 FabianB_ np
15:20 mircea_popescu now he's expecting buy action in 2015 ?
15:20 mircea_popescu [\\\] depends how many people show up. was nh last time.
15:20 is the girl going?
15:21 I want her to shake my... hand.
15:21 mircea_popescu mpoe-pr is in the pix lol
15:21 just because she want to the last doesn't mean she's going to the next
15:21 jurov [\\\]: she may if you succeed to unchain it
15:21 jesus, basic logic mircea_popescu
15:22 mircea_popescu well doh, past performance,f uture performance
15:22 mircea_popescu basic finance.
15:22 jurov: to which it does 'it' refer?
15:22 my hand or her shaker?
15:22 jurov omg what a freudian slip.. i meant:
15:22 jurov she may if you succeed to unchain her
15:23 mircea_popescu freudiin slap.
15:23 freud was a fraud
15:23 everyone spells the name wrong
15:24 so I pay the fee and the only issue is my transportation?
15:24 jurov yes. and few drinks
15:24 mircea_popescu sometyhing like that.
15:25 You will be expected to behave courteously towards the other VIPs, which specifically includes not trying to sell them.
15:25 so if I don't VIP, I can trash the VIPs?
15:25 I think I'll just 'register'
15:26 jurov oh that catched my attention too... did that actually happened last time?
15:26 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1078 BTC [+]
15:26 jurov i didn't notice
15:26 catched->caught
15:26 mircea_popescu jurov not afaik
15:26 asciilifeform so, GPG challenge/response at the gates?
15:27 jurov [\\\]: i guess VIPs will have bouncers at disposal for such cases as you
15:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform possibly.
15:28 jurov: oh be nice
15:28 jurov hahaha yea we need protection against impostors, too.. but last time pgp challenge/response was done by email
15:28 all flights take me through germany
15:28 I don't know if I can handle that
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4811 BTC [-]
15:29 jurov [\\\]: try to go to budapest, we can make road trip then
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.481 = 8.886 BTC [-]
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4801 BTC [-]
15:29 like I want to road trip with you
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [-]
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475178 BTC [-]
15:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.475 = 11.8 BTC [-]
15:29 have you seen what happens when you get into a car with strangers?
15:30 jurov so we should know each other more bby then.
15:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.475 = 7.375 BTC [-]
15:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.47252 = 2.945 BTC [-]
15:30 perhaps you aren't my type?
15:31 jurov we 'll manage these 4 hours somehow
15:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4725 BTC [-]
15:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.47 BTC [-]
15:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [-]
15:32 jurov oh google maps actually says three hours only
15:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4625 BTC [-]
15:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460475 BTC [-]
15:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460474 BTC [-]
15:32 ThickAsThieves push that price down!
15:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460356 BTC [-]
15:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.46026 = 20.4436 BTC [-]
15:33 so what price do we think AM is going to top out at?
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.46025 = 10.2218 BTC [-]
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.46 = 14.6 BTC [-]
15:33 ThickAsThieves hard to say
15:33 ThickAsThieves next dividend is gonna be big
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
15:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
15:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.459 = 5.836 BTC [-]
15:34 BitHub about now
15:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456 BTC [-]
15:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45513 BTC [-]
15:35 ThickAsThieves, why's that?
15:35 benkay jurov, i'll ride in with you
15:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
15:35 ThickAsThieves because they sold 50 blades at 50btc last night
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 115 @ 0.015 = 1.725 BTC [-]
15:36 ThickAsThieves and at current hashrate the div payout will be more than .015/share
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4502 BTC [-]
15:36 jurov mircea_popescu: actually, it won't be bad idea to say on invitation "you can search connection to budapest, there will be a shuttle at XX:00 hour"
15:36 ThickAsThieves so .02 is quite possible
15:37 diffchange is right around the corner
15:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.450125 BTC [-]
15:37 jurov benkay ok, let me know in january :)
15:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [-]
15:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
15:38 ThickAsThieves .02 is like 70% APR
15:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0149 = 0.0596 BTC [+]
15:38 ThickAsThieves at share price of 1.5
15:39 .02 won't hold
15:39 ThickAsThieves maybe not
15:39 every 12 days, they'd have to deploy more than what diff is going up
15:39 ThickAsThieves but certainly will drive up price
15:40 and the more they deploy, the more they have to deploy later to keep up
15:40 there are diminishing returns
15:40 ThickAsThieves yep
15:40 and at some point, the others will ship
15:40 ThickAsThieves but they arent dumb either
15:40 which only makes things more difficult
15:41 I never said they were dumb
15:41 ThickAsThieves i never said you did ;)
15:41 but there are limits to the tech
15:41 at some point, they'll hit moore's just like the rest of the industry
15:41 ThickAsThieves maybe they have new tech planned
15:41 I look forward to that day
15:41 ThickAsThieves new products to sell
15:41 mircea_popescu jurov so make a comment on the article
15:41 ThickAsThieves other types of deals
15:41 selling products hurts their generation side
15:41 ThickAsThieves maybe the branch out
15:41 so that has limits :p
15:42 ThickAsThieves they sell products right at about the price where they cant achive ROI
15:42 ThickAsThieves achieve
15:42 sorta like bfl
15:42 mircea_popescu indeed.
15:42 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.182004 BTC [-]
15:42 only bfl's gone way past ROI
15:42 if you bought in June/July, you'll never get your original coin qty back
15:42 ThickAsThieves criminal
15:43 well, part of that was risk
15:43 you can't place it all on bfl
15:43 but the outright lies you can
15:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2992 = 0.5984 BTC [-]
15:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2991 = 0.5982 BTC [-]
15:44 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 38 @ 0.1078 = 4.0964 BTC [+]
15:45 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1079 = 5.395 BTC [+]
15:45 is bfl still processing refunds for people?
15:45 ThickAsThieves dunno
15:45 BitHub um
15:46 ThickAsThieves i know they refunded me in Feb
15:46 BitHub aren't they still marketing for people to take preorders with them?
15:46 BitHub i swear once a weeks there' a new trick to preorder with bfl
15:46 the newest preorders say no refunds
15:46 all sales final
15:47 I was curious about the presales from last year
15:47 ThickAsThieves BitHub, didnt you have some insider info about secret BFL machines? Spill it!
15:47 BitHub about one yeah
15:47 BitHub and after seeing what's going on i'm not suprised if its true
15:48 BitHub but if i was to go on their website and order one now, when will i get it?
15:48 BitHub christmas?
15:49 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.107999 = 1.08 BTC [+]
15:49 mircea_popescu in two weeks.
15:49 mircea_popescu tops.
15:49 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1089 = 0.2178 BTC [+]
15:49 BitHub serious?
15:50 BitHub hehe dont joke
15:50 BitHub btw, what do yo guys make of this asset, im very curious, very different
15:51 BitHub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200701.0
15:51 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 148 @ 0.1089 = 16.1172 BTC [+]
15:51 ThickAsThieves I'd love to be wrong
15:51 ThickAsThieves but
15:52 ThickAsThieves if it ain't a scam
15:52 ThickAsThieves it's a delusion
15:52 BitHub lulz
15:52 BitHub i'm thinking to go there for a week and check it out
15:52 BitHub really investigate it
15:52 ThickAsThieves good idea,
15:52 ThickAsThieves then they'll buy you off
15:52 ThickAsThieves to lie to everyone
15:52 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
15:52 ThickAsThieves you'll make some good $
15:52 BitHub we'll see
15:53 ThickAsThieves assuming it's legit
15:53 ThickAsThieves how are bitcoiners remotely qualified to invest in it
15:53 BitHub i wont be investing myself if its not legit
15:53 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 214 @ 0.109 = 23.326 BTC [+]
15:53 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.109 = 1.09 BTC [+]
15:54 BitHub potentially this could be worth way more than asicminer in my opinion
15:54 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
15:54 benkay holy shit
15:54 benkay never invest in mining companies
15:55 benkay ^^ personal opinion
15:55 benkay bitcoin mining *may* be different.
15:55 BitHub to be honest
15:55 BitHub that was one of the things i was goign to talk to them about
15:55 BitHub and hook them up with
15:56 ThickAsThieves BitHub, someone linked this the other day, which you might find useful: http://www.cerm3.mining.ubc.ca/documents/areviewofrecentminingstockscams.pdf
15:56 BitHub to do crypto mining at the same time
15:56 BitHub i admit at first and the youtube vid it does seems very scammy
15:56 ThickAsThieves BitHub, they'd look at you like you are crazy
15:56 ThickAsThieves and they might be right
15:56 ThickAsThieves :)
15:56 BitHub just a lil crazy but there's alot of genius mixed in
15:57 BitHub but i dont know, i will check this out
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01499999 = 0.375 BTC [-]
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2992 BTC [+]
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2991 = 0.8973 BTC [-]
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01499999 = 0.75 BTC [-]
16:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0149 BTC [+]
16:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123 @ 0.00067001 = 0.0824 BTC [-]
16:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00067 = 6.7 BTC [-]
16:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5577 @ 0.00066753 = 3.7228 BTC [-]
16:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 308 @ 0.00325 = 1.001 BTC [+]
16:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
16:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4919 BTC [+]
16:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.492 BTC [+]
16:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 1.492 = 73.108 BTC [+]
16:21 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.420001 BTC [-]
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 310 @ 0.00312 = 0.9672 BTC [-]
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0031 = 1.24 BTC [-]
16:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49997 BTC [+]
16:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.499975 = 20.9997 BTC [+]
16:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0149 = 0.4172 BTC [+]
16:28 ThickAsThieves WTB Bulk ASICMINER shares, also interested in a steady supplier if anyone is interested.
16:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4925 BTC [-]
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.495 BTC [+]
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49998 BTC [+]
16:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0149 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
16:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01494 = 0.2241 BTC [+]
16:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6162 @ 0.00066753 = 4.1133 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14416 @ 0.00066691 = 9.6142 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 292 @ 0.00066648 = 0.1946 BTC [-]
16:45 jurov lol http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/terminally_nosy_p5pSzsDkZzWJ2H7SqpFAPO
16:45 jurov Bloombers spies on Goldman Sachs
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43699 @ 0.00067063 = 29.3059 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00068208 = 7.9121 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18819 @ 0.00068917 = 12.9695 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00069081 = 3.7995 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2824 @ 0.00069228 = 1.955 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5922 @ 0.00069321 = 4.1052 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6960 @ 0.00070342 = 4.8958 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4676 @ 0.00070702 = 3.306 BTC [+]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070683 = 3.0542 BTC [-]
16:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17424 @ 0.00070702 = 12.3191 BTC [+]
16:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [+]
16:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00071 = 9.94 BTC [+]
16:50 benkay time to hack bloomberg
16:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4255 @ 0.00071 = 3.0211 BTC [+]
16:52 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 124 @ 0.003 = 0.372 BTC [-]
16:53 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.003 = 0.021 BTC [-]
16:53 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 700 @ 0.0029 = 2.03 BTC [-]
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2991 = 0.8973 BTC [-]
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2901 BTC [-]
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.29 = 1.74 BTC [-]
16:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0029001 = 2.9001 BTC [-]
16:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 51666 @ 0.0029 = 149.8314 BTC [-]
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01494 = 0.1494 BTC [+]
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 92 @ 0.01475 = 1.357 BTC [-]
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01474 = 0.1179 BTC [-]
16:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.014994 = 0.7497 BTC [+]
17:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01469 = 0.1175 BTC [-]
17:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01468 = 0.2936 BTC [-]
17:04 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.471001 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.471 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.47 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [-]
17:09 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.109998 = 0.99 BTC [+]
17:10 jurov just 10k s.dice to 0.002
17:12 MJR_ hi
17:13 kakobrekla heya
17:14 kakobrekla MJR_ is a big star now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202145.0
17:16 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.015879 = 0.1112 BTC [+]
17:16 MJR_ lol
17:16 MJR_ the forums completely ignored it
17:16 MJR_ 0 comments
17:16 kakobrekla forums aint shit.
17:16 jurov your name's actually Maximo?
17:16 MJR_ hold on
17:16 MJR_ yes it is
17:16 MJR_ Maximo Joshua Rossi
17:17 MJR_ <-----makes sense now :)
17:17 kakobrekla i was accually dislecit for a long time
17:17 kakobrekla and called you MR. J in my head
17:20 mircea_popescu coolness
17:21 mircea_popescu MJR_ the forums are retarded.
17:21 MJR_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56587.0;topicseen
17:21 MJR_ super old post from my bit coin noob days
17:21 MJR_ mircea_popescu: I agree
17:22 mircea_popescu lmao "hai i want to mine with nvidia"
17:23 MJR_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196613.0
17:24 MJR_ that was jan 2012
17:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01498 = 0.1198 BTC [+]
17:24 MJR_ so look at how much the forums did there
17:25 mircea_popescu :p
17:25 greatIdeas whois self
17:26 greatIdeas whois greatideas
17:27 MJR_ anyway, meeting Stephen foley, financial times today
17:27 MJR_ I showed him trilema
17:27 MJR_ and the best BTC investments of all time
17:28 MJR_ we talked diff futures, IPO's, options...
17:28 MJR_ I told him that there was a story no ones really ran with
17:28 MJR_ we'll discuss more tonight over drinks
17:28 jurov lol, have you told him about mpoe-pr?
17:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+]
17:29 jurov that *will* be a story
17:29 MJR_ no...lol in what way?
17:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01499 = 0.2698 BTC [+]
17:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.489999 = 2.98 BTC [+]
17:29 mircea_popescu jurov just likes her
17:29 jurov she can be featured in a box next to story as "most reviled PR ever or so"
17:29 mod6_ nickserv is ded?
17:30 mircea_popescu mod6_ atm
17:30 mod6_ ahh thx
17:30 mod6_ :]
17:31 MJR_ I love her responses
17:31 MJR_ and admire her for being able to stand writing on that hell hole of a forum
17:32 mircea_popescu now on that later part i fully agree
17:32 mircea_popescu tingirl.
17:32 benkay ahahahaha
17:33 benkay tingirl?
17:33 mircea_popescu well some metal
17:33 jurov let's do nice holiday surprise for her (if she's in the US)
17:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01499 = 0.1649 BTC [+]
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.4899 = 12.4495 BTC [+]
17:34 mircea_popescu it's a holiday atm ?
17:34 jurov you said she's on vacation, no?
17:34 mircea_popescu she only got a coupla days lol
17:34 jurov heh
17:34 mircea_popescu what do you think this is, socialism ?!
17:35 benkay vacation = socialism
17:35 benkay deep
17:36 mircea_popescu totally.
17:37 benkay man i can't handle "vacation"
17:37 benkay being idle is the worst
17:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+]
17:38 mircea_popescu see ?
17:40 jurov now i see why some people can't call longer vacation a vacation, they instead say "mini-retirement"
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01474 = 0.1179 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01474 = 0.0737 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.014735 = 0.0589 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.014732 = 0.1473 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01473 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0147226 = 0.1178 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01472 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01471 = 0.0883 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.0147 = 0.3381 BTC [-]
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 729 @ 0.01461 = 10.6507 BTC [-]
17:47 benkay ;;ticker
17:49 MJR_ I will go on a mini retirement week after next
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00287001 = 2.87 BTC [-]
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00286001 = 2.86 BTC [-]
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1398 @ 0.00286 = 3.9983 BTC [-]
17:50 MJR_ s.dice P/E ratio is around 4
17:50 MJR_ which is crazy
17:51 mircea_popescu kinda
17:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.015979 = 0.4794 BTC [+]
17:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01598 BTC [+]
17:51 MJR_ if you had done the article when it was trading around 6 it would have been higher up
17:52 MJR_ but, a snapshot is always subjective
17:52 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01599 = 0.7995 BTC [+]
17:52 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 83 @ 0.016498 = 1.3693 BTC [+]
17:52 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.016499 = 1.6499 BTC [+]
17:53 mircea_popescu yea
17:56 kakobrekla hm
17:56 kakobrekla bitstamp overtook btce
17:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 160 @ 0.01499 = 2.3984 BTC [+]
17:59 benkay wow pgp doesn't take command line input of text to encrypt
17:59 benkay *bitch bitch bitch bitch*
18:01 jurov you are supposed to pipe it
18:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01499 = 0.1199 BTC [+]
18:02 MJR_ yah, in mine I can say --sign
18:02 MJR_ and then it waits for input
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.014989 = 0.2698 BTC [+]
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 82 @ 0.01499 = 1.2292 BTC [+]
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 71 @ 0.01461 = 1.0373 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.014605 = 0.1753 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 375 @ 0.01460001 = 5.475 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0146 = 7.3 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 42 @ 0.01455101 = 0.6111 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.470234 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.463461 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.462 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.461 BTC [-]
18:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01453 = 0.1453 BTC [-]
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01452 = 0.363 BTC [-]
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.014511 = 0.3628 BTC [-]
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.01451 = 0.6965 BTC [-]
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0145 = 1.45 BTC [-]
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01445 = 0.578 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456002 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456001 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.456 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.451 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45002 BTC [-]
18:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.01455101 = 2.5464 BTC [-]
18:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.014551 = 2.1827 BTC [-]
18:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.01455 = 2.5463 BTC [-]
18:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.447401 BTC [-]
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.4474 = 10.1318 BTC [-]
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.447301 = 7.2365 BTC [-]
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.4471 = 20.2594 BTC [-]
18:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.487499 BTC [+]
18:18 benkay ping
18:18 benkay freenode down?
18:18 benkay $avg
18:19 mpexbot benkay: 115.42
18:20 benkay truff1es does your screen show your username properly to you?
18:20 truffles does now
18:34 truffles had defective key on my keyboard, works well now
18:34 truffles just gotta give it a whack
18:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2712 = 0.8136 BTC [-]
18:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00070537 = 5.9251 BTC [-]
18:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.01485 = 1.1138 BTC [+]
18:54 truffles yea seems like freenode is having some trouble
18:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.487499 BTC [+]
18:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4875 BTC [+]
19:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01485 = 0.0743 BTC [+]
19:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01485 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01485 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
19:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00070537 = 9.0287 BTC [-]
19:33 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.215001 BTC [-]
19:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.460001 BTC [-]
19:35 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
19:35 ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats
19:35 ThickAsThieves :(
19:35 ThickAsThieves ;;gribble wake up
19:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
19:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
19:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1098 BTC [-]
19:46 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 228 @ 0.07 = 15.96 BTC [-]
19:48 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 107 @ 0.1098 = 11.7486 BTC [+]
19:50 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 104 @ 0.109998 = 11.4398 BTC [+]
19:58 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.215 BTC [-]
19:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070502 = 3.0464 BTC [-]
19:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34979 @ 0.000705 = 24.6602 BTC [-]
20:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01435 BTC [-]
20:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01431 = 0.2862 BTC [-]
20:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01431 = 0.1431 BTC [-]
20:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01426 = 0.2139 BTC [-]
20:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.01415 = 0.2123 BTC [-]
20:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0141 = 0.282 BTC [-]
~ 25 minutes ~
20:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.46 = 4.38 BTC [-]
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.426 = 0.852 BTC [-]
20:54 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
20:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.000705 = 13.6065 BTC [-]
20:58 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 4 @ 0.2079 = 0.8316 BTC [+]
21:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01485 BTC [+]
21:05 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.109998 = 0.33 BTC [+]
21:06 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109998 = 0.22 BTC [+]
21:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01498 = 2.996 BTC [+]
21:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4659 BTC [+]
21:11 benkay $avg
21:11 mpexbot benkay: 115.42
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01498999 = 1.499 BTC [+]
21:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4659 BTC [+]
21:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.01498999 = 0.3148 BTC [+]
21:16 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+]
21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01498999 = 0.0749 BTC [+]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]
21:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+]
21:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.4741 = 25.0597 BTC [-]
21:30 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109998 = 0.22 BTC [+]
21:33 KRS-1 are we gonna break up
21:33 KRS-1 ward
21:34 KRS-1 kinda looks like the bulls are tired
21:35 truffles "House did not sell."
21:35 KRS-1 why would it
21:36 truffles cuz its for btc?
21:37 KRS-1 how much btc..it did not look very nice to me
21:37 truffles wants 150, top bid was 60
21:37 KRS-1 oh i get it..you folks are having a hard time btc->usd/euro/whatever huh
21:38 KRS-1 no moar redeems
21:38 KRS-1 thats a cheap house
21:39 truffles it does look nice on the outside
21:40 KRS-1 now that I know how much it went for..yes
21:40 KRS-1 Where I live in south florida..you can live like a king and have access to some of the best beaches in the world.
21:40 KRS-1 Comes at a cost though.
21:40 truffles ya
21:40 KRS-1 It snows there.
21:41 truffles oh not the hurricanes..
21:41 KRS-1 Haven't had a bad one in quite a while..but when they come..grab your ankles.
21:41 truffles lol
21:42 KRS-1 I imagine I'd commit suicide if I did not see the sun for extended periods..so I try not to live in places where it snows.
21:42 truffles rly?
21:42 KRS-1 Weather is just too beautiful here.
21:42 truffles i could live in a sandcastle if i had internet
21:43 truffles or igloo
21:43 KRS-1 If you lived here for a while then moved where it snows and you don't see the sun you would miss it something terrible.
21:43 KRS-1 heh
21:43 truffles no i wouldnt
21:44 KRS-1 maybe..but I would. Its paradise here 6 months out of the year..the other year its off and on rain and constant heat..but theres always the beaches and boating. I might move to California someday.
21:44 benkay there are also all of the humans you have to share that space with
21:45 benkay i might kill myself if forced to endure *that*
21:45 benkay both california and florida
21:45 truffles right humans
21:45 KRS-1 yeah, the people in south florida suck ass..i heard cali is a little better for that.
21:46 KRS-1 the women here are bitchy and snobbish
21:46 truffles ppl are the same no matter social standing or geographic location
21:46 KRS-1 I dont know myself, but people have told me that.
21:47 KRS-1 idk dude..I have been told that about south florida by more than 1 or 2 people
21:47 benkay there are some people who are very similar no matter where you are
21:48 benkay but cultural differences are real
21:48 KRS-1 and that follows geographical locations right
21:48 benkay some cultures are super wack
21:48 benkay where have you lived, truffles?
21:50 truffles awww
21:50 benkay ?
21:50 truffles thats a cute question
21:51 benkay i just want confirmation that you have no real experience of the world ;)
21:52 truffles im a recluse..
21:53 benkay i'm just going to apply a big old evaluation factor to everything that comes out of your mouth about humans and their behavior then
21:53 truffles ok
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00070537 = 5.1139 BTC [+]
21:58 truffles well that killed chat
~ 15 minutes ~
22:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0142 = 0.284 BTC [+]
~ 16 minutes ~
22:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01476 BTC [-]
22:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.01475001 = 0.2655 BTC [-]
22:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 81 @ 0.01475 = 1.1948 BTC [-]
22:33 mod6 no gribbs yet?
22:34 mod6 ahh altgribble... ok.
22:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01475 = 0.0738 BTC [+]
22:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [+]
22:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4876 @ 0.00312146 = 15.2202 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
22:59 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 400 @ 0.00295 = 1.18 BTC [+]
23:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 85 @ 0.01475 = 1.2538 BTC [+]
23:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2992 BTC [-]
23:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01475 = 0.059 BTC [+]
23:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]
23:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01475 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
23:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4925 BTC [+]
23:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.498999 BTC [+]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01497 = 0.0299 BTC [+]
23:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01497 = 0.0449 BTC [+]
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