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02:02 awt asciilifeform: unclear if jonsykkel is running updated blatta, so might still be creating dupes
02:02 awt it is possible not to get the full dump if certain conditions arise
02:03 awt ie currently chain considered repaired if the tip is up to date, even if the chain is broken further up. so once the latest message gets out of the order buffer and into the long buffer, chain is "repaired"
02:04 awt signpost: ^
02:04 signpost 2022-02-28 02:04:35: got ya
02:04 signpost 2022-02-28 02:04:40: appears to be working fine over here.
02:05 awt excellent
02:07 * awt messages
02:08 awt at least from asciilifeform's client
02:11 * awt messages with a timestamp prepended
~ 40 minutes ~
02:52 asciilifeform irssi ftr
~ 8 hours 56 minutes ~
11:49 jonsykkel not updated, will have oportunity tomorow
~ 6 hours 43 minutes ~
18:32 awt Blatta update: commencing work on partial support for PROD packets. Should help with missing messages in some cases.
~ 2 hours 13 minutes ~
20:45 awt I might have to move here permanently. For whatever reason verisimilitude both bores the hell out of me and drives me nuts
20:55 PeterL 2022-02-28 20:52:46: is vex better or worse? at least with vex it is usually a big block of text in the middle of the night, so easy to skip over in the log
20:57 awt PeterL: sometimes vex is funny
20:58 signpost 2022-02-28 20:58:20: awt: yeah, but keep in mind that tmsr failed first at assimilation, then at everything else.
20:58 signpost 2022-02-28 20:58:30: I'm not arguing with him because he's making me upset.
20:59 * asciilifeform wonders why sees timestamps in almost erry msg
20:59 * signpost messages
21:00 * asciilifeform messages' << moar bug?
21:00 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 21:00:38: hmm and billymg's bot also recv'd barf?
21:00 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 21:00:41: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=tTDv << what was sent
21:01 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 21:01:16: awt: with all due respect the current ver. of blatta imho inedibly buggy
21:02 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 21:01:52: a good %% of what asciilifeform threw in, thus far, didn't come out on any end, or came out mangled beyond recognition
21:02 signpost 2022-02-28 21:02:32: might want to get everyone up to date first, iirc that was a hypothesis on cause
21:02 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 21:02:40: aite
21:04 asciilifeform awt: asciilifeform is thinking, for next spec rev., that timestamps in playbacks oughta be emitted outta band (e.g. wallop to irc client) rather than inband (i.e. chomping away part of space avail. for msg text)
21:05 asciilifeform that way also could handle'em in a log bot appropriately (or not)
~ 20 minutes ~
21:25 awt asciilifeform: how do you know everyone but the bot didn't get your message?
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21:25 awt Which message is missing?
21:29 awt asciilifeform: read log re: timestamps: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-26#1003810
21:29 bitbot Logged on 2022-02-26 21:46:49 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: if your clock is far enough ahead of the speaker, blatta may think your last received message is newer than a message just sent, and will apply the timestamp.
21:29 awt asciilifeform: read log re: timestamps: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-26#1003810
21:29 bitbot Logged on 2022-02-26 21:46:49 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: if your clock is far enough ahead of the speaker, blatta may think your last received message is newer than a message just sent, and will apply the timestamp.
21:33 * awt messages with a timestamp prepended
21:36 awt I have this in my log going to your client: INFO 2022-02-27 18:18:44,597: [71.191.220.241:10628 asciilifeform] <- BROADCAST a hrm actually the issue... Did you receive?
21:37 awt how do you know that bot received barf and isn't just producing barf? Why assume that?
21:39 awt asciilifeform: I can't debug missing messages from you if you don't tell me what messages are missing
21:39 awt signpost: yes - it's mostly my issue.
21:39 awt signpost: yes - it's mostly my issue.
21:45 awt asciilifeform: also if you belive others are not getting your messages, you can verify through the debug log which I have shared: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/logs/
21:46 awt asciilifeform: roger re: timestamps out of band
~ 35 minutes ~
22:22 awt pestbot: echo hello
22:36 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-28#1003876 << good point awt
22:36 bitbot Logged on 2022-02-28 21:25:24 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: how do you know everyone but the bot didn't get your message?
22:36 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-02-28#1003876 << good point awt
22:36 bitbot Logged on 2022-02-28 21:25:24 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: asciilifeform: how do you know everyone but the bot didn't get your message?
22:36 asciilifeform hm and still receiving self-echos, e.g. just nao 'asciilifeform[jonsykkel|awt|signpost] ...'
22:36 asciilifeform and bot logged twice
22:39 awt as per several previous comments asciilifeform we will be getting echos when there is whitespace at the end as long as jonsykkel is running 9983
22:39 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 22:39:35: hmm
22:40 awt at least, that's the best explanation I have for now
22:40 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 22:39:53: dunthink i put a whitespc at the end there tho
22:40 awt if you tab complete, you'll get whitespace after the name
22:40 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 22:40:26: a
22:41 * asciilifeform recalls nao
22:41 asciilifeform 2022-02-28 22:40:44: ty awt
22:44 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:39:53: awt: do I need to do anything to migrate the db from 9983 to 9982, or does that just happen automatically when I run 9982 the first time?
22:44 awt PeterL: the migration happens automatically. Do back up your db, however.
22:45 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:41:10: I don't need no stinking backups, bonzai! (j/k)
22:45 awt lol
22:45 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:41:33: brb, upgrading
22:50 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:46:26: hi again?
22:51 awt wb PeterL
22:51 awt pestbot: echo hello
22:52 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:47:59: awt: maybe change the example start script to not use --log-level since it is not an option anymore?
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22:52 awt PeterL: will do
22:53 awt pestbot: echo hello
22:59 pestbot 2022-02-28 22:28:56: hello from pestbot
22:59 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:54:41: test
23:02 awt lol finally
23:02 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:54:41: test
23:02 awt pestbot: echo hello
23:03 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:57:25: finally?
23:03 PeterL 2022-02-28 22:57:59: is it normal to get a wall of text a couple minutes after connecting?
23:04 awt PeterL: yeah
23:04 pestbot 2022-02-28 22:56:54: hello
23:05 PeterL 2022-02-28 23:00:14: I feel like with the new version there is a lot more lag than the previous version?
23:07 awt PeterL: finally was wrt pestbot's echo
23:07 awt PeterL: what I'm seeing with pestbot right now is that everything is going into the order buffer, which gets cleared out every 5 min. by default.
23:09 awt PeterL: what I'm seeing with pestbot right now is that everything is going into the order buffer, which gets cleared out every 5 min. by default.
23:11 pestbot 2022-02-28 23:11:31: hello
23:11 pestbot 2022-02-28 23:11:31: hello
23:16 awt PeterL: you can verify be looking for "message received out of order" in the debug log.
23:17 awt Yep, I'm seeing way too many GETDATA messages from people that have not been offline
23:19 awt I think message order is, tragically, getting messed up in the order queue and the chain tips are getting updated to the wrong messages.
23:25 awt pestbot: echo hello
23:25 pestbot 2022-02-28 23:25:16: hello
23:25 awt Oh looks like pestbot is finally up to date.
23:32 jonsykkel 2022-02-28 23:31:15: 123
23:32 signpost 2022-02-28 23:32:09: 456
23:40 jonsykkel indeed
23:41 awt pestbot: echo 789
23:42 pestbot 2022-02-28 23:41:38: 789
23:50 awt pestbot: echo 10 11 12
23:50 pestbot 10 11 12
23:58 jonsykkel getdataspam seems to have run its course, 24min
23:59 awt jonsykkel: was just about to say I see your GETDATA packets
23:59 awt Seeing a lot fewer timestamps now that my clock is not almost 10 minutes fast.
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