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← 2014-07-02 | 2014-07-04 →
00:00 bloctoc Yellen is turning out to be very good for bitcoin indeed!
00:00 bloctoc Satoshi/Yellen for president
00:01 nubbins` jannit yellin
00:06 bloctoc Draper in Financial Times. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c2b48d2c-01ec-11e4-bb71-00144feab7de.html#axzz36NGFo5Ls
00:06 assbot Financial Times | Error | Akamai Error
00:18 moiety BingoBoingo: has there been any other news... i see nothing other than the usual he said, she said derpiness
00:18 BingoBoingo Not really
00:18 moiety oh and can we play chess? (quite drunk - determined to beat you)
00:20 BingoBoingo K, let me set up a board
00:20 moiety omg really? now? you did not say yes... im getting a board ready just in case
00:21 BingoBoingo moiety: Wait there was a sie wasn't there
00:23 BingoBoingo moiety: Remembered http://www.chess.com was a thing so we dun fill the logs up
00:23 assbot Play Chess Online - Free Chess Games at Chess.com
00:23 * BingoBoingo mixes another drink
00:24 BingoBoingo !up Pasha
00:25 moiety yaya k so whats the level of drunk 0-10?
00:25 moiety level of drunk of the BingoBoingo i mean
00:25 BingoBoingo Prolly a 4
00:26 moiety ah fuck.... k .... be kind then
00:26 BingoBoingo Coul be 6 by the end of the game
00:35 moiety BB: why is it telling me every move i make is illegal
00:37 BingoBoingo moiety: That's a good question
00:37 BingoBoingo What sort of thing were we playing on again?
00:39 moiety lol
00:39 moiety chess?
00:40 BingoBoingo K, are we using the website?
00:40 moiety but any move i make it says its illegal
00:40 BingoBoingo moiety: Are we on the same site?
00:40 moiety yeah i went to the link you gave
00:41 moiety says you challenged me
00:41 BingoBoingo Maybe you have to accept the invitation to the game or something?
00:41 moiety yeah i do that and get to the game no bother
00:42 BingoBoingo Hmmm. moiety Maybe start another game and invire me this time? Maybe this site is jsut retarded
00:44 BingoBoingo moiety: Seems to maybe be working now.
00:44 moiety o no im just being dumb, think thats me in the game now
00:44 moiety aye
00:45 moiety jesus this is ultra fancy compared to our last board
00:45 BingoBoingo Ah
00:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00081375 = 8.0154 BTC [+]
00:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00081375 = 28.0744 BTC [+] {2}
00:51 BingoBoingo %t
00:51 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 205k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 294
01:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.0008144 = 2.1989 BTC [+]
01:05 moiety i swear you have extra bits than i do when we begin a game BingoBoingo
01:05 BingoBoingo moiety: Well, anyone who bet life in WoL this round is prolly swearing moar
01:08 moiety aha!
01:09 moiety did you just take one of my bits?
01:09 BingoBoingo Yup
01:10 moiety i knew it!
01:10 BingoBoingo And another
01:10 moiety get back you
01:10 moiety omg
01:11 BingoBoingo moiety: You know... at some point you can start taking stuff too
01:12 moiety ach weesht! I'm trying!
01:13 BingoBoingo moiety: Nao you have to take a piece
01:13 moiety i did ..i did!!!!
01:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00081284 = 14.9563 BTC [-]
01:14 BingoBoingo There you go. You're scottish. You dun have to be English sort of polite
01:15 moiety shall i send you a "take me nao" tshirt?
01:15 BingoBoingo Maybe?
01:18 BingoBoingo moiety: After this game Imma get drunker and you're going to need to show aggression in the next game
01:22 moiety how have you got a manny down on my homne row
01:22 BingoBoingo !up ericmuyser
01:22 BingoBoingo moiety: Quite a few... You know sometimes you can move them out of the way (you can also flip the board to see what I see)
01:23 moiety oh aye i just found the board flipping things.... i can move them out of the way?!
01:25 BingoBoingo Well, when its your tune to move if I've threatened something... moving it to safety is an option
01:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 32 @ 0.01702034 = 0.5447 BTC [-] {8}
01:27 BingoBoingo http://www.earthtouchnews.com/media/179015/06_02_2014_manul_Pallass-cat_1_GalleryLarge.jpg
01:27 mircea_popescu kyuupichan yeah, generally those sorts of bets struggle to even cross 1 btc total.
01:28 mircea_popescu nobody really seems to care, see http://bitbet.us/bet/805/newegg-to-accept-btc-in-2014/
01:28 assbot BitBet - Newegg to accept BTC in 2014 :: 0.07 B (50%) on Yes, 0.07 B (50%) on No | closed 3 hours 36 minutes ago
01:29 benkay where is the search engine i type in "thing i want".pdf and it gives it to me?
01:29 mircea_popescu also, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72aglvFpd1rosrwvo1_500.jpg
01:29 mircea_popescu !up Cory
01:29 benkay nom
01:30 mircea_popescu benkay free independant woman ftw.
01:31 benkay schroeder's buffet bio's decentish
01:32 mircea_popescu moiety so how goes ?
01:34 moiety mircea_popescu: hello! so happy to finally have non intermittent interwebs (arrived today), nothing exciting. how are you?
01:34 mircea_popescu pretty good
01:36 mircea_popescu discovering how ba actually looks a lot like san diego
01:36 mircea_popescu i think they have a complex.
01:37 moiety i missed you all!
01:37 moiety san diego?
01:38 mircea_popescu ya
01:38 cazalla heh won knc bet, who would've thought
01:39 moiety BingoBoingo: offs.. srs? i have like no bits left!
01:39 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3u4g9XCRH1qfslojo1_500.jpg
01:39 BingoBoingo moiety: Well you could resign or offer a draw and try again next game
01:40 moiety "which of these chicks has a natural tan?!"
01:40 moiety noooooooooooo BingoBoingo i shall lose squarely tyvm!
01:40 mircea_popescu moiety they all look kinda natural no ?
01:41 moiety my point exactly mircea_popescu :P
01:41 BingoBoingo moiety: In that case you need to lose more bits this game so you protect them more ferverently next
01:41 mircea_popescu hehe
01:41 mircea_popescu kinda lanky awkward central.
01:41 moiety but nipples.... so... eh?
01:42 mircea_popescu lol brits and their eh
01:42 mircea_popescu universal key of language, eh ?
01:42 moiety eh
01:42 * moiety nods
01:42 BingoBoingo rolfbbqomg
01:42 mircea_popescu bbqeh.
01:42 mircea_popescu con queso.
01:43 BingoBoingo %d
01:43 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 626104.23 in 254 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 22.40
01:43 BingoBoingo %t
01:43 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 204k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 295
01:43 BingoBoingo %ob
01:43 atcbot 18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 51k@200 898k@199 500k@151
01:44 mircea_popescu ;;calc (2.67295072 - 2.24502432) / 272079.90524245
01:44 gribble 1.57279678416e-06
01:44 mircea_popescu that's pretty good innit.
01:45 BingoBoingo Looka like it
01:45 mircea_popescu cool.
01:45 mircea_popescu this entire reporting business i tell you... it's getting pretty thick.
01:45 BingoBoingo Yeah
01:46 BingoBoingo Soon, most of your month will be consumed by statements
01:46 mircea_popescu almost done with mpif not even halfway there.
01:46 mircea_popescu ya lol
01:47 moiety BingoBoingo: have you got me in a point where i cant move?
01:47 mircea_popescu what's this, impregnation chess ?
01:48 BingoBoingo moiety: You have to move your king, because check
01:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Not atm that I'm aware of
01:49 moiety fucking better not be
01:49 moiety ok i did something, no idea what but it was the only thing i could move
01:50 BingoBoingo Well, it happens
01:51 BingoBoingo You can take a thing nao at least?
01:57 moiety i did.... but i think it wasn't the best move to make... but im struggling cus, well, you know, you have ALL THE REST!
01:58 BingoBoingo moiety: Well, now you know why you need to retaliate when I take your pieces
01:58 moiety ya, moseying across the board doesnt cut it any more
01:59 BingoBoingo Well, life is far more precarious than it was this point last round in the other game https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/
01:59 assbot War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
02:00 penguirker New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-june-2014/
02:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6687 @ 0.0008143 = 5.4452 BTC [+]
02:09 BingoBoingo moiety: GG
02:10 moiety wait
02:10 moiety how
02:10 moiety wut
02:10 moiety fuck
02:10 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/ some adjustments to btcalpha required.
02:10 assbot F.MPIF, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
02:10 gribble The operation succeeded.
02:10 moiety thank you for being patient BingoBoingo
02:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9059 @ 0.0008143 = 7.3767 BTC [+]
02:11 mircea_popescu 0.00021760 vs 0.00021734 tho so quite close.
02:11 BingoBoingo moiety: You're welcome
02:13 moiety sorry i don't give such a good game, I will some day. i promise you that!
02:14 moiety !up RagnarDanneskjol
02:15 BingoBoingo moiety: Well, you can give it a go as white nao
02:16 moiety :D
02:24 moiety BingoBoingo: i have no idea why i just did that last one ok... it just /is/
02:24 BingoBoingo Well, things...
02:24 BingoBoingo just sort do what they do
02:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/
02:30 BingoBoingo moiety: Good game
02:30 moiety wut? already? i thought i was doing better this time!
02:31 BingoBoingo moiety: Well, you kept more bits, but... You kind forgot to protect the important one.
02:32 moiety ya.. i'm not quite at the stage of thinking ahead to what you will do next. i don't quite see how to protect that back bit without moving folk out
02:34 BingoBoingo Well, you've to to worry about the center of the board a bit more. Rooks are fun when you get them out, but... Early in the game they really dun have anywhere to go
02:35 moiety my strategy so far as to: make a gap and then destroy all i can with the queen. sometimes this works sometimes it really doesnt
02:36 moiety you always move your horse dudes pretty early. i must think about them more
02:36 BingoBoingo Well, queen can get took too.
02:36 moiety i like her cus shes pretty bi and can go loads of ways though
02:36 BingoBoingo Horses are really dangerous early in the game because they can jump over the junk clogging things up
02:37 moiety can they jump over anything?
02:37 BingoBoingo Well, as long as they have a spot to land on
02:39 BingoBoingo %p
02:39 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 12504.27 GH/s
02:45 moiety dude, how do you leap across the board like that -_-
02:46 moiety you won already
02:46 moiety duuuuude
02:48 BingoBoingo Well, practice
02:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00081604 = 12.4038 BTC [+] {2}
03:02 moiety i'll play you and win one day, BingoBoingo
03:02 BingoBoingo moiety: Of course
03:04 moiety if you could feign some form of "oh well i really didn't see that coming" that would be fabulous
03:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00081374 = 12.2875 BTC [-] {3}
03:05 moiety did you see bill gates play the current world grand master? lost in under two minutes i think
03:06 BingoBoingo moiety: Yeah I saw the Bill gates thing. Maybe soon I'll be able to do the feigning as you requested, but... drunk
03:19 BingoBoingo %tslb
03:19 atcbot 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!)
03:19 BingoBoingo %diff
03:19 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 635112.62 in 215 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 24.16
03:26 punkman BingoBoingo: I see the bombing paid off
03:26 BingoBoingo punkman: Early on, now it seems simply that life is the biggest hazard to itself
03:27 punkman the game's going faster than usual eh
03:27 BingoBoingo Well, ATC is goig faster than usual
~ 25 minutes ~
03:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42000 @ 0.00081791 = 34.3522 BTC [+] {4}
04:01 moiety BingoBoingo: is it very boring to play people that aren't at your level?
04:04 kyuupichan ;;bc,stats
04:04 gribble Current Blocks: 308992 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1471 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16057522539.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.52443
04:04 kyuupichan I'll be stunned if we get a diff fall this period, but we're well on course for it
~ 20 minutes ~
04:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18175107 = 0.9088 BTC [-] {3}
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [-]
04:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40050 @ 0.00081926 = 32.8114 BTC [+] {3}
04:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.181751 = 1.0905 BTC [-]
04:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00082106 = 1.1905 BTC [+] {2}
04:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5758 @ 0.00082138 = 4.7295 BTC [+]
04:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00082138 = 11.7457 BTC [+]
~ 35 minutes ~
05:29 jurov ;;calc 2186753/186753
05:29 gribble 11.7093326479
05:29 jurov er
05:29 jurov ;;calc 475.281614687/2186753
05:29 gribble 0.000217345815777
05:29 jurov ;;calc 475.281614687/2186753*1.01
05:29 gribble 0.000219519273934
05:29 jurov ;;calc 475.281614687/2186753/1.01
05:29 gribble 0.000215193877007
05:30 jurov !mpif
05:30 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
05:31 pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK - still, no one bets Yes
05:31 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (35%) on Yes, 2.44 B (65%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 83`555 (100`000 to 1)
05:31 jurov mike_c ^^ quite a diference from the report
05:31 jurov *monthly report
05:32 jurov i take it back, actually not
05:32 jurov should have bfast and coffee first
~ 1 hours 16 minutes ~
06:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00081961 = 6.393 BTC [-]
06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00081921 = 10.322 BTC [-] {2}
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07:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.03710885 = 1.4844 BTC [-] {9}
07:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.18749994 = 1.875 BTC [+] {3}
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07:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008214 = 4.107 BTC [+] {2}
07:45 Naphex davout: grats on merchant feat
07:47 punkman best time to move house: noon with 30 C under shade
07:51 jurov you live in trailer?
07:52 punkman nah
07:58 chetty you can't make this shit up - http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/no_author/high-schooler-says-he-will-commit-suicide/
07:58 assbot High Schooler Says He Will Commit Suicide – LewRockwell.com
08:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.19416553 = 9.7083 BTC [+] {8}
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08:54 bitcoinpete ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-june-2014-statement/#footnote_0_55383 << please to note Government of "Canada"
08:54 assbot F.MPIF, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
08:54 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:57 bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/484478125087010816
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08:57 bitcoinpete Dear Sam Lee...
08:58 bitcoinpete http://tr.eecs.ucf.edu/78/
08:58 assbot Anonymous Byzantine Consensus from Moderately-Hard Puzzles: A Model for Bitcoin - EECS Technical Reports
09:00 pankkake ;;ud thunderclap
09:00 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thunderclap | A thunderclap is the sound of a scrotum slapping against the body when going balls-deep.
09:02 bitcoinpete lol
09:08 pankkake http://www.coindesk.com/overstock-dangles-rewards-bitcoin-friendly-vendors/ actually, overstock might end up being a bitcoin business
09:08 assbot Overstock Dangles Rewards For Bitcoin-Friendly Vendors
09:09 pankkake if it's what I understand (being paid bitcoins not fiat)
09:11 kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png
09:11 kakobrekla people.
09:12 bitcoinpete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVuEz0S16c << germanz keeping busy!
09:12 assbot Premium PLUS Parken am Dsseldorf Airport - YouTube
09:12 bitcoinpete ok, off to the golf course
09:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.20071416 = 1.405 BTC [+] {3}
09:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2051 = 0.6153 BTC [+]
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10:11 ThickAsThieves <+kakobrekla> http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png /// lol
10:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44520 @ 0.00081588 = 36.323 BTC [-] {3}
10:14 kakobrekla wait theres more
10:15 kakobrekla cont: http://shrani.si/f/1p/9k/1VTNwcQ8/customercont.png
10:17 pankkake LOL
10:19 Namworld So what's the issue? Delay is like in FAQ like first question? I think I recall reading it once. Pretty sure there was mention for unresolvable bets somewhere in there.
10:20 kakobrekla dafuq do i know
10:20 kakobrekla he just needs to wait for the mods to do their thing
10:20 ThickAsThieves i imagine a clearer answer could be, it will resolve when the results of the open FOIA requests are responded to
10:20 kakobrekla is what i have been trying to tell him anyway.
10:21 kakobrekla yeah but then theres no fun
10:21 ThickAsThieves indeed
10:22 Namworld Ah yes, there's the FAQ answer. Doesn't specify a definite time limit, but it does mention it.
10:23 kakobrekla look im just the support keeping the customers busy while bets are getting resolved dont look at me!
10:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2630 @ 0.00081403 = 2.1409 BTC [-]
10:36 pankkake http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/03/136231/goldman-sachs-demands-google-unsend-one-of-its-e-mails
10:36 assbot Goldman Sachs Demands Google Unsend One of Its E-mails - Slashdot
10:39 chetty you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table?
10:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5070 @ 0.00081698 = 4.1421 BTC [+]
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10:57 punkman chetty, you argue with the dealer, you get thrown out of the casino. You argue with bitbet, you get entertaining emails.
11:03 kakobrekla the conclusion, bitbet is delaying payments so they earn the big interest sitting on huge (over 3btc) balance
11:03 kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/2K/bl/3DJJzKcn/customerconclusion.png
11:03 mircea_popescu kakobrekla eh tell them to get bent.
11:03 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete huh ?
11:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:04 asciilifeform kakobrekla: betcha this fellow is american. over here, they'll bring a mostly empty bottle of vodka to the shop, say 'i didn't like it', get money back.
11:04 kakobrekla lol
11:05 mircea_popescu actually no, let's fix the incentive structure.
11:05 mircea_popescu kakobrekla tell them that you've brought the matter to my attention, and i said that if i hear about this again i will not pay on that bet until august 3rd no matter what happens. then ask him if he wants to bring the matter to my attention again.
11:05 mircea_popescu ;et'
11:05 mircea_popescu let's see what happens.
11:06 mircea_popescu !up Vallance
11:06 kakobrekla mp, nowai cause this can end only end badly.
11:06 kakobrekla :P
11:06 mircea_popescu lol right.
11:06 mircea_popescu hey, im willing to go to february 3rd 2015 after that.
11:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah. this because 50 years ago it was actually worth your while as a shop keeper to make them happy, because they were diligent hard working sorts of people.
11:07 mircea_popescu nowadays...
11:12 pankkake didn't he think that the info would not be available quickly when he bet?
11:12 pankkake that's why I didn't bet, actually, I'm surprised it was approved without a resolution source in the first place
11:12 mircea_popescu pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck.
11:12 mircea_popescu then the girl just gives him tea. what now, does he throw a fit, rolling on the floor, snot everywhere ?
11:13 mircea_popescu cause it wouldn't surprise me.
11:13 pankkake I'm more like George, girl invites me over to fuck, but I just drink the tea
11:13 chetty no, he tries to rape her, cause thats his right, otherwise he is a victim of tea
11:13 asciilifeform !s trilema copilul anal
11:13 assbot 0 results for 'trilema copilul anal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trilema+copilul+anal
11:14 mircea_popescu chetty i k r ?
11:14 asciilifeform damnit
11:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sheit, your depth of wisdom astounds me.
11:14 mircea_popescu ;;google copilul anal
11:14 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2011/copilul-anal
11:14 assbot Copilul anal pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
11:14 gribble Parents banned from naming baby WikiLeaks after officials ruled it ...: <http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/parents-banned-from-calling-baby-wikileaks-after-court-ruled-name-was-potentially-harmful-9239564.html>; Anus music music - Listen free at Last.fm: <http://www.last.fm/tag/anus+music>; Trilenciclopedia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: (1 more message)
11:14 mircea_popescu weird, i get it first hit.
11:16 mike_c !mpif
11:16 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021734 BTC (Total: 475.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
11:17 mircea_popescu mike_c yay!
11:17 mike_c who wants to be the btcalpha intern?
11:17 mircea_popescu srsly.
11:17 mircea_popescu who can one trust for the job tho ? maybe ask them directly.
11:17 mircea_popescu kinda how i do it, if there';s people right on the brink of your wot as it were.
11:18 mircea_popescu expand the bubble by eating the edges
11:18 mike_c worth a shot.
11:18 mircea_popescu just like bacterium do it. which, i've been thinking, is actually a very interesting situation. with the mechanics of bitcoin serving as a fundamental thermodynamics implementation, and the wot serving as a singalling space,
11:19 mircea_popescu we're basically playing a mega game of life : we've each got our own bacterium
11:19 mircea_popescu and so far, trying to make it eat and grow
11:19 kakobrekla what is the intern suppose to do
11:19 kakobrekla except for internet
11:19 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bugpowder http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741744
11:19 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
11:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:19 mike_c get coffee and enter monthly updates.
11:19 mircea_popescu check out the time piercing beauty of the log/later tell combo :D
11:20 mircea_popescu mike_c usure not seeking 2nd wife ? that sounds like wife...
11:20 mike_c work-wife
11:20 mike_c ;;ud work wife
11:20 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=work%20wife | That person at work (same or opposite sex) that takes the place of your "at home" spouse while you are at work (no sexual relationship is part of t...
11:20 mircea_popescu (no sexual relationship is part of either relationship)
11:20 mircea_popescu there ud fify
11:22 pankkake ;;ud secretary
11:22 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=secretary | secretary. A position filled by a female that has no other purpose except to perform specific duties for the boss or president of the company. ie: sucking, fucking, ...
11:23 mircea_popescu eh. these people never ran an office.
11:24 mircea_popescu generally speaking, the senior partner at a law firm will be fucking enraged if you manage to steal his secretary. he couldn't care less if half the junior "partners" leave.
11:24 mircea_popescu the reason isn't that she's fucking him, but quite exactly the contrary : unlike all the junior schmucks, she isn't.
11:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00081457 = 3.7617 BTC [-]
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11:42 mircea_popescu !s mcgrath
11:42 assbot 10 results for 'mcgrath' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mcgrath
11:42 mircea_popescu !s trampstamp
11:42 assbot 3 results for 'trampstamp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trampstamp
11:44 mike_c !s spy house jersey
11:44 assbot 38 results for 'spy house jersey' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spy+house+jersey
11:44 mike_c only 38??
11:44 kakobrekla lol again with the spyhouse
11:45 mike_c i could've sworn we said it a 100 times yesterday
11:45 kakobrekla maybe its not parsed yet
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.202 = 0.808 BTC [+]
11:51 mircea_popescu da fuck is this jersey thing
11:52 ThickAsThieves lolz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg7658308#msg7658308
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund
11:54 mthreat kakobrekla: the cron was running once per day, I just updated it to run once per hour
11:54 jurov TAT good one
11:55 kakobrekla thats generous of you mthreat , thanks
11:56 mthreat kakobrekla: np, it's very lightweight and fast.. we could make it real-time if we wanted, but probably not necessary
11:57 benkay ;;later tell hanbot by choosing bets that, as best can be determined, will be open for around a month at the least. // learned that one myself heh
11:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69933066 BTC to 11`366 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
12:01 kakobrekla i agree, although we started daily and it now is hourly, in a year, perhaps we will look for our next line on search
12:02 mircea_popescu kakobrekla YOU HAD PROMISED ME MY LINES IN SEARCH
12:02 mircea_popescu how long is this going to take!!
12:02 kakobrekla i know email doesnt have a ban, but i think irc does?
12:03 mircea_popescu https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2F51tx306hb%2FCapture.jpg&t=541&c=bf37IGAdaIoDqA << ahahha nice one ThickAsThieves
12:03 kakobrekla lol
12:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: secretary << that wasn't about secretary. that was 'секретутка' - 'secretute'
12:03 mircea_popescu lol sekretutka
12:04 asciilifeform standard term. ask anyone.
12:04 mircea_popescu but you see, that was mostly because of the ban on contraception.
12:04 mircea_popescu people needed to get other people's wives in their harem.
12:05 mircea_popescu hey lambchop, if you're reading this : i've had enough entertainment i'm willing to pay. pick any bitbet you want, i'll put 1 btc in your name on the side of your choice. lemme know.
12:05 asciilifeform stalin died, condoms appeared, marriage as SOP didn't really start to sink till the '90s (ussr)
12:06 mircea_popescu wait what ? that last bit ?
12:06 asciilifeform people still saw it as 'the thing to do'
12:07 asciilifeform culture dies slowly
12:07 mircea_popescu o to sink. i read "sink in"
12:07 mircea_popescu complete dissonance
12:07 asciilifeform lol
12:07 mircea_popescu i was like... what sort of tatar tribe from 1700 did this guy grow up with
12:10 benkay mircea_popescu: who's lambchop?
12:10 mircea_popescu the guy with the graph
12:10 mircea_popescu tat linked his post above
12:11 benkay hm
12:11 benkay in other news, i'm looking at wireframes and user experience jibberjabber for a biggish home automation project
12:11 mircea_popescu random factoid of the day : mongols used to call themselves "tata". the chinese called them daddy. that's the origin of the term, in all its permutations, big daddy and what have you.
12:11 jurov lol sekretutka .. here sexretardka catched on instead
12:12 mircea_popescu jurov does that also connote she's slow & thick ?
12:12 jurov no, just pretty but retarded
12:13 mircea_popescu well yes. both slow and thick mean dumb :). however, slow is a good fuck and thick a good ass, so...
12:13 mircea_popescu trying my hand at this entire lyricism thing.
12:13 benkay god save us all
12:13 jurov benkay, save yourself
12:14 benkay i'm already doomed
12:14 mp_as_god no homo, bro.
12:14 mircea_popescu actually
12:15 mp_as_god how the fuck do you reg and add nicks again ?
12:15 benkay eregister
12:15 kakobrekla no, he wants /nickserv help
12:15 benkay hurr services
12:15 mp_as_god im such a noob ;/
12:16 jurov /msg nickserv group mircea_popescu
12:16 jurov oops wrong window
12:16 mircea_popescu ty
12:16 BingoBoingo moiety: ntrly
12:17 mircea_popescu holy shit i own ##buttcoin
12:17 mircea_popescu and #nude
12:17 mircea_popescu ok this is pretty cool.
12:17 ThickAsThieves Dow broke 17k
12:17 ThickAsThieves champagne for all!
12:17 mircea_popescu lol.
12:18 jurov where are we in the 1930's script again?
12:19 ThickAsThieves we blew past it! no chance of crash anymore1
12:19 chetty Berkeley Requires Marijuana Dispensaries To Provide Free Weed For Low-Income Patients
12:19 BingoBoingo <chetty> you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table? << of course these people know what a casino is, it's the place they learned how to fly through a door
12:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#741565 <<< ahahaha bashed
12:19 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
12:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00081992 = 26.5654 BTC [+] {3}
12:20 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say!
12:20 mircea_popescu chetty lmao.
12:20 FabianB $traded
12:20 empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE
12:21 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-femfanon/
12:21 ThickAsThieves <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves permanently elevated plateau i say! /// such progress.
12:22 mircea_popescu Virginia High Schooler Threatens Suicide, Police Arrive and Kill Him
12:22 mircea_popescu “Why would you shoot a child that is suicidal? You are there to save him, not finish him off.”
12:22 mircea_popescu ahahah
12:23 ThickAsThieves "Christian was shot an unknown number of times by a Purcellville police officer"
12:23 ThickAsThieves too many bullet holes to count i guess
12:23 ThickAsThieves or counting no longer taught
12:24 mircea_popescu pankkake: if it's what I understand (being paid bitcoins not fiat) << pretty cool actually.
12:24 jurov he threatened the officer with suicide? i see
12:24 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves "more than three"
12:24 mircea_popescu jurov no, he disobeyed!!1
12:25 mircea_popescu you gotta keep in mind we're discussing this country where they have rooms where if anyone screams "freeze" all the adults just.. freeze
12:25 asciilifeform 'unknown number of times' << empty magazine in the end
12:25 mircea_popescu well... "adults".
12:25 ThickAsThieves On Tuesday, a misunderstanding between two armed men in a convenience store in Georgia led to one man drawing his gun and being arrested on the first day of the “guns everywhere” law.
12:25 ThickAsThieves guncentralize all the things!
12:26 asciilifeform whatever happened to shootouts being held in specially-designated places.
12:27 mircea_popescu what is this law ?
12:28 ThickAsThieves Georgia’s new gun rules kicked in Tuesday, allowing residents to carry firearms into bars, nightclubs, classrooms and government buildings in a measure slammed by anti-weapon activists as a “dangerous kill bill.”
12:28 mircea_popescu http://shrani.si/f/2L/xi/lRh7miy/customer.png << ahahah "but it is fast". epic.
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12:28 mircea_popescu !b 1
12:30 ThickAsThieves mp what's your view on PAMM accounts?
12:30 ThickAsThieves or anyone
12:30 mircea_popescu kakobrekla i tell you honestly that's like the best customer support i've seen to date. you make me fucking proud.
12:30 mircea_popescu i'm buying you a beer next we meet.
12:30 kakobrekla lol.
12:31 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's a great idea in theory whose greatness in practice depends on not being used.
12:31 ThickAsThieves i dont like them but i cant articulate exactly why
12:32 ThickAsThieves just the sheepness i guess
12:32 mircea_popescu it'll prolly work fine for as long as a very small fraction of trades are done this way.
12:32 mircea_popescu but as it becomes popular, it also becomes dangerous.
12:33 mircea_popescu take just one model of an avenue of attack. suppose i have a known bitbet address, which is up 20% to date.
12:33 mircea_popescu suppose bitbet implements pamm betting.
12:33 mircea_popescu suppose i notice that any 5 btc i bet is followed by 20 btc in pamm bets.
12:33 mircea_popescu suppose i bet 5 btc on "mp has three heads", then turn around and put 100 on the other side.
12:34 mircea_popescu do the people pamming me have 2k btc ready ?
12:34 ThickAsThieves thx
12:34 ThickAsThieves that all helps
12:35 mircea_popescu noob traders generally don't understand that the trinity is price, volume, volatility.
12:35 mircea_popescu they just look at price
12:35 ThickAsThieves indeed, so far, volume is the hardest thing for me to work with
12:36 ThickAsThieves bitcoin may be volatile, but it isnt like you can just unload 100btc at any price you target
12:36 mircea_popescu now that depends.
12:36 mircea_popescu bitcoin is opaque, otc-driven on top of all of it.
12:40 thestringpuller wtf is circle?
12:41 ThickAsThieves vaporbank
12:42 ThickAsThieves circle is now doing a little media trolling to get attention
12:42 ThickAsThieves then they will release "free" bitocin purchasing
12:44 mircea_popescu aren't they basically the start-up predicated on the notion that square made simple geometric shapes bankable ?
12:44 benkay hey who's the blogger doing really great mining analysis?
12:44 benkay voice of some greek or something?
12:44 BingoBoingo %t
12:44 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 229 Last Price: 200 24h-Vol: 38k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 213
12:45 ThickAsThieves organofcorti
12:45 benkay thanks ThickAsThieves
12:45 mircea_popescu !s organofcorti
12:45 assbot 5 results for 'organofcorti' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=organofcorti
12:45 mircea_popescu damn
12:45 pankkake square?
12:45 ThickAsThieves https://squareup.com/
12:45 assbot Accept Credit Cards From An iPhone, Android or iPad - Square
12:46 ThickAsThieves Circle is kinda like US Neo I guess
12:46 benkay aren't they due to fold sometime this or next quarter?
12:46 pankkake it's not even square, it's a rounded square… http://i.imgur.com/xUXEP5g.png SCAM
12:47 ThickAsThieves a warmer safer square
12:47 mircea_popescu Goldman Sachs filed with the New York Supreme Court, requesting "emergency relief" to avoid a privacy violation and "avoid the risk of unnecessary reputational damage to Goldman Sachs."
12:47 mircea_popescu what does "unnecessary" mean in this context ?
12:47 pankkake as Gronibard would say, Il est pas carré, il est pas rond, il est ovale mon trou de balle
12:48 mircea_popescu seems to me it's god damned necessary, people should stop hiring phantomcircuit
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12:48 BingoBoingo !b 4
12:48 ThickAsThieves it's also funny that it's "avoid the risk of"
12:48 mircea_popescu pankkake shit's gotta be rounded, otherwise children could who knows, give themselves a new cunt on the corners of the thing
12:48 mircea_popescu and sue you for unnecessary feminisation.
12:49 ThickAsThieves sue all the risk!
12:49 mircea_popescu pankkake are these the nude doods ?
12:49 benkay so okay i don't know anything about finance and i have a question
12:49 pankkake they are rarely fully clothed in concert
12:50 benkay so a bond market is in a bubble if there is lots of demand for the bonds, allowing the issuer to issue for less money.
12:50 benkay lower interest.
12:50 benkay okay i get it thank you for your assistance.
12:50 mircea_popescu yw.
12:51 mircea_popescu do you understand how bonds are priced, for that matter ?
12:51 benkay let's say no - i'm sure i'll learn something useful.
12:51 benkay everything i know about bond pricing comes from MPBOR
12:51 benkay which...
12:51 mircea_popescu ok, so i issue series A, 1 btc bonds paying 1 bitcent/month for 2 years.
12:51 mircea_popescu how much is a series A worth atm ?
12:52 benkay 1 B + tvoB?
12:52 mircea_popescu yes.
12:52 mircea_popescu now, i issue series B, 1 btc bonds paying 5 bitcents/month for 1 year.
12:52 mircea_popescu what is the value of A now ?
12:53 benkay less?
12:53 benkay because the available interest rate has gone up?
12:53 mircea_popescu 1 b+ tvoB(A) - tvoB(B)
12:53 benkay sweet.
12:53 mircea_popescu provided ideal liquidity etc.
12:53 benkay right right
12:53 mircea_popescu it's a very schematic model, but for the basics : if yields go up low yield older bonds are worth less
12:53 mircea_popescu so bonds being worth less really means the market's going to shit for the issuer. such as you know, default looming or w/e
12:54 mircea_popescu if yields go down, everyone's old bonds expand on the books
12:54 benkay making all the old treasuries on all the US banks' books worth less, making them more depending on further bailouts?
12:54 mircea_popescu which is why fake low yields are so important for the us financials atm :
12:54 benkay more dependent*
12:54 mircea_popescu their balance sheets consist entirely of worthless paper that has to be overvalued.
12:54 mircea_popescu tyhis has the disadvantage that it bubbles up the stock exchange and (again) real estate
12:55 mircea_popescu but they don't perceive they have options.
12:55 mike_c the fed isn't the sole buyer, they aren't entirely fake. there are others with vested interest in keeping us propped up.
12:56 mircea_popescu for the purposes of the macro discussion those others are the fed.
12:56 mircea_popescu all the byzantine generals serving the same camp ARE in that camp,
12:56 mike_c china = fed? how so?
12:56 mircea_popescu irrespective of their motivations, whether they're there cause they're trying to fuck a guy's daughter or becaue they're drunk
12:57 mircea_popescu i think equating the part of china propping the us currently with china is at best naive.
12:57 mike_c hm. interesting. cuz the part of china doing the propping is also delusional?
12:57 mircea_popescu china has a long history of making horrid public investments. that there's currently a china fed does not realy commit china
12:57 mircea_popescu any more than all the uninhabited towns they built. they got scratch to waste.
12:58 mircea_popescu it's not delusional, per se. it's just that china is large. when you're that large, spitting in every vessel isn't particularly noteworthy.
12:58 mircea_popescu sure you got drowned in spit, but they didn't mean anything by it.
12:58 thestringpuller ghost cities...
12:59 mike_c http://usawatchdog.com/fed-laundering-treasury-purchases-in-belgium-to-disguise-whats-happening-paul-craig-roberts/
12:59 benkay ;;gettrust freeroute
12:59 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user freeroute: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=freeroute | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=freeroute | Rated since: Tue Apr 2 18:13:09 2013
12:59 mircea_popescu mike_c for instance.,
13:01 mircea_popescu looking forward to the "cash-basis bond evaluation" becoming a thing with us banks.
13:01 mircea_popescu where if you have 100 btc at 1% while the yields atr 0.5% you book a 200 btc passive.
13:01 benkay wat
13:01 mircea_popescu then if you need 1k btc to cover your profile you just take yields to 0.1%. or w/e, 0.00001% if need be.
13:02 mircea_popescu benkay if one's in the business of making money out of nothing, one's stuck doing it.
13:03 thestringpuller is it really out of nothing?
13:03 Apocalyptic it is
13:04 thestringpuller but BTC doesn't come from nothing...
13:04 mircea_popescu thestringpuller i was using btc as a unit of account stylistically, to underline the lulz that is fiat.
13:04 pankkake you sound like a socialist! faceless globalized finance is money out of money!
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13:04 benkay !b 1
13:08 thestringpuller socialism will save us all tho!
13:08 thestringpuller how will the underprivilaged be able to live without socialism?
13:08 BingoBoingo OMG Under 200 Life nao!!! https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/
13:08 assbot War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
13:09 mircea_popescu wow what a blowout
13:09 mircea_popescu incredible.
13:09 BingoBoingo Irony is it seems some of the most damaging things to life's cause were... Life Bombs
13:10 mircea_popescu funny how that works huh
13:10 mike_c that is the biggest domination i have ever seen, and i've watched a lot of these.
13:10 mircea_popescu just like irl!
13:10 benkay i do not understand this thing that you've done, mike_c .
13:10 mircea_popescu mike_c i was thinking, i didn't even know this shit was possible.
13:11 mike_c benkay: it is a secret plot to give bingo all the ATC
13:13 jurov mike_c i don't like how it shows trending behavior from start to finish on most of the games
13:13 benkay ugh open markets are about as stochastically bouncy a thing as i want my money anywhere near
13:13 mike_c jurov: your most is a very small sample size
13:13 jurov ic
13:14 mircea_popescu benkay this has the advantage that it's a provably fair stochastic process.
13:14 mircea_popescu markets do not have that.
13:14 mircea_popescu you try to ensure it by calling them "open", but alas...
13:15 benkay yeah but in the open market i can say things like 'o hey mpoe will probably be worth quite a bit in the future." and play based on that.
13:15 mircea_popescu right. specifically because it's not provably fair :)
13:16 benkay i like my edges, and i like them sharp.
13:17 BingoBoingo benkay: In that case your chance to buy is before the game starts
13:17 mircea_popescu much like bitbet, there's ways to have edges here too. mostly on the vol/vol angle i guess
13:18 benkay i'm not an oddsmaker, guys. i make like one trade every six months and sit the fuck on top of it.
13:19 mircea_popescu we could say you trade like a girl ?
13:19 benkay well, that'd be one trade every ten months :D
13:19 mircea_popescu lol
13:19 benkay and besides i don't 'trade'.
13:20 benkay Mr. Market, etc.
13:24 * asciilifeform 'Mr. Market' << imagines a webtv-like konsoomer appliance for idiots to 'trade' on
13:25 * asciilifeform surprised the various chumpatronic engineers who push 'amazing! web based stock trading' crud haven't come out with one yet
13:25 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:25 benkay if i read the parable correctly, Mr. Market is the idiots en aggregate.
13:26 kakobrekla just you wait ascii.
13:26 asciilifeform it'll ship some time after the u.s. gov.-issued, mandatory hardware btc wallet.
13:28 asciilifeform 'supports FaceCoin, TaxCoin, and even Bitcoin! (TaxCoin surcharge applies to all transactions, see manual.)'
13:30 mircea_popescu actually i'm kind-of surprised nobody has yet made a bitcoind/bitcoin-qt which takes a few out of every tx and sends it to author.
13:30 mircea_popescu trivial change to make.
13:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nobody << not exactly. i have a proof-of-concept patch for the winblows client that does this.
13:30 asciilifeform (100% though. does that count?)
13:31 BingoBoingo The multibit authors are explicitly moving to this model now
13:31 mike_c call it the tx fee in the UI, and don't actually pay tx fee (or reduced fee). difference goes to author.
13:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform shouldn't be 100%, should be more like w/e vat is
13:31 mircea_popescu mike_c no, call it tax in the ui.
13:31 mircea_popescu difference goes to having "duly authorised" badge to show.
13:31 asciilifeform 100% is the correct winblows tax rate.
13:32 mircea_popescu On the steep drop in GDP growth of a paltry .1% in the first quarter, Dr. Roberts says, “What I find most amusing about this is they had to claim some real growth in the first quarter; so, they eked out .1%. Now we know they got that by rigging the inflation number they used to deflate the gross domestic product (GDP). The real GDP in the first quarter, properly deflated, was negative and probably also in the fourt
13:32 mircea_popescu h quarter. Most likely, this coming quarter, they are not going to be able to hide the fact that it is negative. . . . I am convinced the first quarter was negative, and I don’t see how it could possibly go positive in the second quarter.”
13:32 mircea_popescu where did all the guys that used to argue with me about the fakeness of usg published figures go!
13:32 mircea_popescu it's so lonely nao.
13:32 asciilifeform at some point people lose interest - how many people cared about soviet stats ?
13:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11646 @ 0.00081916 = 9.5399 BTC [-]
13:33 mircea_popescu yeah.
13:34 mircea_popescu On the Ukraine crisis, Dr. Roberts says, “I think Washington badly miscalculated this whole Ukraine business. It was an act of hubris, arrogance and stupidity. They are mad at Russia for blocking their attack on Syria and blocking their attack on Iran. They said ‘we’ll teach them.’ We’ll give them trouble in their own backyard and not to get in our way anymore.” The threat of sanctions has made the Russ
13:34 mircea_popescu ians realize the dollar system is not in their interest, and they are going to leave it. . . . If any significant part of the world stops using the dollar, the price of the dollar falls because demand for dollars falls, and the import cost for America would rise. When you see how import dependent we are, it would mean a substantial rise in the real cost of living for most Americans.”
13:34 mircea_popescu this paul craig roberts guy gets it somehow.
13:34 asciilifeform 'But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their re
13:34 asciilifeform ctified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at 145 million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been
13:34 asciilifeform overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
13:34 asciilifeform ('1984' obviously)
13:35 mircea_popescu http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/donate/
13:35 assbot Donate - PaulCraigRoberts.org
13:35 mircea_popescu look at that shit eh.
13:35 mircea_popescu http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/contact/ << people need to get fucking rid of contact forms.
13:35 assbot Contact - PaulCraigRoberts.org
13:36 benkay why isn't he running ads?
13:36 mircea_popescu i have no idea how could one be more offensively impolite than making a contact page and then putting in a form.
13:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: spam control.
13:36 mircea_popescu spam control that manages to offend me has failed.
13:37 mike_c um, do you find it offensive if the form is just an option? alongside other contact info?
13:38 mircea_popescu no.
13:43 pankkake forms suck, because there are standard tools to write to people and you can't use them
13:43 BingoBoingo ^ this
13:43 pankkake and you won't have a copy of your sent message in your email client, etc.
13:44 mircea_popescu that ^
13:45 mike_c and yet can be a convience in some situations. which is why i like having multiple options.
13:45 mike_c convenience
13:45 mircea_popescu nobody's offended at plurality you know ?
13:46 mike_c some people are anti-choice :)
13:47 mircea_popescu lol good one
13:47 mircea_popescu !up Dalrymple
13:48 Dalrymple Good evening Gentlemen
13:48 mircea_popescu heya.
13:48 Dalrymple Just stumbled over your blog today and thought I'd say hello here
13:48 mircea_popescu so today being a week since S.WOL floated, mike and i each got 2`250`000 shares deposited.
13:48 asciilifeform Dalrymple: fan of the actual Dalrymple ? or the man himself
13:48 mircea_popescu well hello here.
13:49 mircea_popescu ima brb in a few mins.
13:49 Dalrymple Just a fan
13:49 asciilifeform ;;google theodore dalrymple
13:49 gribble Theodore Dalrymple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Dalrymple>; The Skeptical Doctor | Dedicated to the work of Theodore Dalrymple: <http://www.skepticaldoctor.com/>; Theodore Dalrymple - City Journal: <http://www.city-journal.org/author_index.php?author=47>
13:49 asciilifeform ^ for the uninitiated
13:49 Dalrymple The man himself prefers antique books to computers
13:50 Dalrymple I've been doing some research and am considering buying a coin since it seems from what I have read the price is due to go up soon
13:51 Dalrymple I am totally new to this but it seems like a pretty secure investment
13:51 benkay nobody in here's going to argue that btc are a bad buy, even at 5k/each.
13:51 benkay unless *wave hands* market conditions.
13:52 Dalrymple I can buy at £338
13:53 asciilifeform Dalrymple: so long as you don't expect the exchange rate to increase monotonically - sure, buy.
13:54 benkay ;;ticker --currency gbp
13:54 gribble Bitstamp BTCGBP ticker | Best bid: 375.78431, Best ask: 376.5597, Bid-ask spread: 0.77539, Last trade: 376.61217, 24 hour volume: 4477.02275443, 24 hour low: 373.703, 24 hour high: 383.75392, 24 hour vwap: 378.413376961
13:54 benkay sounds like a good deal, Dalrymple - what's your outlet?
13:55 Dalrymple bitbargian.co.uk
13:57 benkay fascinating.
13:58 mike_c ;;google site:www.thedrinkingrecord.com counterparty risk
13:58 gribble A Reminder – The Most Important Word in Bitcoin, Again because Gox: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/02/25/a-reminder-the-most-important-word-in-bitcoin-again-because-gox/>; Anti-Bitcoin "Bitcoin Apps" Part 3: Gliph in particular (Updated ...: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/09/26/anti-bitcoin-bitcoin-apps-part-3-gliph-in-particular/>; Why Fractional Reserve Can't Work in (1 more message)
13:58 Dalrymple It's funny actually, I have capital to spare on something like this due to finally receiving unpaid wages from my last job. I was working in a computer repair shop -
13:59 Dalrymple The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China to use on indoor maurijuana crops
14:00 asciilifeform lcd panels ?!
14:00 asciilifeform for lighting?
14:00 Dalrymple Lol - sorry LED
14:00 benkay http://www.thetwoweeker.com/blog/
14:00 assbot Blog The Two Weeker
14:00 Dalrymple She was trying to get me in on it without initially revealing what the panels were for, luckily I left before I got involved
14:07 benkay http://redsymbol.net/articles/does-it-take-money-to-make-money/
14:07 assbot Does it take money to make money?
14:08 benkay http://www.itex.com/
14:08 assbot ITEX - a small business community and barter network
14:08 benkay https://www.bizx.com/
14:08 assbot BizX
14:08 benkay SPAMZOR THURSDAY
14:08 benkay where's ninjashogun when you really need to make a point...
14:08 dignork Dalrymple: £338 is below market value, your chances of getting scammed are high
14:10 Dalrymple Thanks, that site was the first one I came across, so obviously I will have a proper look around for verified sites before I buy anything
14:10 benkay you might try...cash.
14:11 dignork Dalrymple: there are sellers in #bitcoin-otc, if you want I can give you some minimal instructions
14:11 ThickAsThieves now GS is recommending post-earnings Calls
14:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00081563 = 5.8905 BTC [-]
14:12 ThickAsThieves for NFLX*
14:12 ThickAsThieves niggas wont let up
14:13 Dalrymple Thanks dignork, that would be appreciated
14:16 benkay http://pamelaclark.tumblr.com/post/87113711124/35-practical-tools-for-men-to-further-feminist
14:16 assbot Pamela Clark - 35 Practical Tools for Men to Further Feminist Revolution
14:16 benkay Do 50% (or more) of housework. // or pay for it to get done?
14:16 benkay Do 50% (or more) of emotional support work in your intimate relationships and friendships. // except i don't have emotions
14:17 benkay When a woman tells you something is sexist, believe her.
14:17 benkay // don't ask for clarification, or other difficult questions. that's sexist.
14:18 pankkake !up Dalrymple
14:19 ThickAsThieves If she is “nagging,” you are probably lagging.
14:20 ThickAsThieves Inject feminism into your daily conversations with other men.
14:20 ThickAsThieves gj benkay!
14:22 Dalrymple Yet if a man acted like this the feminists would accuse him of "mansplaining", which proves that they are capable of irritating portmanteaus but oblivious to their own hypocrisy
14:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00081563 = 6.4843 BTC [-]
14:24 chetty omg would you guys stop with the feminist garbage! just shot them all and get done with it
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.20199991 = 1.01 BTC [-] {2}
14:25 ThickAsThieves plenty holes as is!
14:25 chetty jajajaja
14:25 Dalrymple Gunshot wounds do not a competent sandwich maker make
14:26 kakobrekla <Dalrymple> The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China < you can get addicted to ordering panels from china!?
14:26 * kakobrekla will never visit ebay again.
14:26 mircea_popescu prole drug dealer ?!
14:26 Dalrymple She's using the led panels to grow weed
14:26 kakobrekla yes yes but where is the addiction part
14:27 kakobrekla without addiction selling drugs is meh
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00081563 = 15.6601 BTC [-]
14:28 ThickAsThieves will you settle for habit-forming?
14:28 Dalrymple Weed has a high profit margin, which probably increases in proportion to the crapness of tv and the sugar content of junk food
14:29 kakobrekla lol tat, not much to go on.
14:29 mircea_popescu you can actually grow weed by lcd panels ?
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19304 @ 0.00081479 = 15.7287 BTC [-] {3}
14:30 benkay led panels, mircea_popescu
14:30 kakobrekla well yes you can
14:30 ThickAsThieves 10 Examples of Decentralized Art
14:30 kakobrekla but its gonna be shit.
14:30 mircea_popescu o nm my bad
14:30 kakobrekla (i do NOT mean the hashish)
14:30 mircea_popescu led to avoiud the high energy consumption police screen for sort of thing ?
14:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03699 = 0.7398 BTC [-]
14:31 Dalrymple Yep
14:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: heat.
14:31 mircea_popescu that too
14:31 mircea_popescu i thought they liked high heat/high humidity no ?
14:31 mircea_popescu just spray water.
14:32 asciilifeform u.s. police were officially forbidden from using thermovisors, but afaik still do (why the hell not)
14:32 Dalrymple I think she might have been selling some of the panels too
14:32 mircea_popescu im pretty sure utilities are required to report the top 5% iirc it was consumers in dormitory neighbourhoods.
14:33 mircea_popescu so why bother with thermovisors
14:33 asciilifeform ;;google bitcoin miner marijuana
14:33 gribble Report: Police Confuse Bitcoin Miner's Power Use for Growing Weed: <http://techland.time.com/2011/05/23/report-police-confuse-bitcoin-miners-power-use-for-weed-grow-op/>; Bitcoin miners busted? Police confuse bitcoin power usage for pot ...: <http://blogs.computerworld.com/18335/bitcoin_miners_busted_police_confuse_bitcoin_power_usage_for_pot_farm>; Why Would Police Confuse (1 more message)
14:33 mircea_popescu might as well forbid them "for privacy"
14:33 kakobrekla easy workaround is to steal power. it goes unnoticed in urban areas.
14:33 mircea_popescu kakobrekla stolen and dependable. pick three.
14:33 Dalrymple In the UK a lot of people are caught due to stealing power
14:34 kakobrekla i know for a fact that they lose megawatts in the air here
14:34 kakobrekla and they dont give fuck for losing a few kw
14:34 Dalrymple It's not something I'd ever want to do, and the people who do it often get violently extorted if they aren't caught by the police
14:35 Dalrymple I met one person who would look for gullibles and offer to loan them some equipment and oversee their grow, it meant he'd get a cut and it wouldn't take place on his property, also he knew the connects to sell it in bulk
14:35 chetty we all have different ideas on which laws are worth breaking
14:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 190 @ 0.03306369 = 6.2821 BTC [-] {14}
14:36 kakobrekla different things work in different places
14:36 ThickAsThieves Dalrymple obv a dealer
14:36 Dalrymple Lol
14:36 mircea_popescu oh nice can i play ?
14:36 mircea_popescu different phone numbers have different amounts in them
14:36 kakobrekla go 500km south of here, you can bribe any cop for anything
14:37 mircea_popescu ;;google where is 500km south of somalia
14:37 gribble Clashes at a Somali border town leaves 10 dead - News ...: <http://www.africareview.com/News/Clashes-at-a-Somali-border-town-left-10-dead/-/979180/2315350/-/jmxylxz/-/index.html>; 10 killed in Somali border clashes - News - africareview.com: <http://www.africareview.com/News/Ten-killed-in-Somali-border-clashes/-/979180/2314660/-/ahh89g/-/index.html>; December | 2013 | (1 more message)
14:37 kakobrekla here, noone dares.
14:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03513656 = 0.527 BTC [+] {3}
14:37 ThickAsThieves 500m south is ocean, no?
14:37 mircea_popescu oh, ocean cops ? i hear bad things about their sirens.
14:37 kakobrekla meh fuck you trolls.
14:38 ThickAsThieves ah, i see, it's madagascar
14:38 ThickAsThieves til
14:38 mircea_popescu where is that sketch
14:38 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGQ5oIuP9c
14:38 assbot Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube
14:39 ThickAsThieves did they ever find that Malaysian plane?
14:41 mircea_popescu yeah. it was hidden in neobee's real world brick and mortar airplane warehouse
14:42 ThickAsThieves zeroblock made a random neo tweet today
14:43 ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/zeroblock/status/484725454343913472
14:43 assbot Danny Brewster (NEO&BEE) rumored to be in Larnaca, Greece by post office worker https://t.co/bos2fyOzAM
14:43 ThickAsThieves points to forum, some dude saying he got Danny's Gox Bankruptcy mail
14:44 mircea_popescu interesting.
14:45 punkman Larnaca is in Cyprus
14:45 ThickAsThieves yep
14:45 ThickAsThieves it's where the airport is
14:45 asciilifeform from the loltron: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/expropriation-back-christine-lagarde-most-dangerous-woman-world
14:45 assbot Expropriation Is Back - Is Christine Lagarde The Most Dangerous Woman In The World? | Zero Hedge
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00081655 = 8.2472 BTC [+] {2}
14:47 mircea_popescu i wasn't aware it had ever left.
14:48 benkay !up Dalrymple
14:51 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2011/vizualizarea-datelor-market-depth-pentru-bitcoini/
14:51 assbot Vizualizarea datelor : Market depth pentru bitcoini pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:51 mircea_popescu this 2011 article has like... 2011 prices in it :D
14:52 mircea_popescu still the best mkt depth visualisation there is imo
14:57 benkay i think i'm going to get a "don't tread on me" tattoo
14:57 benkay probably just the snake.
14:58 benkay also this: http://www.revolutionary-war.net/image-files/deic-logo.png
15:01 mircea_popescu wassat ?
15:01 mircea_popescu o nm.
15:01 mircea_popescu get it in gold ink!
15:02 benkay my skin's not dark enough for that to look at all good
15:02 benkay i am a swarthy boy, but not actually black.
15:02 benkay actually i'm not even swarthy.
15:03 benkay just well-tanned.
15:03 benkay "In short, Italian men are swarthy. And when someone says that, it's usually not with a shudder, but a shiver.
15:03 benkay "
15:03 benkay oh, babes.
15:03 mircea_popescu so get a black guy and get the tattoo on him.
15:03 benkay http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=462574
15:03 assbot Swarthy: offensive or not? - WordReference Forums
15:03 benkay hey thestringpuller lets get you inked
15:05 mircea_popescu thestringpuller is black ?!
15:05 mircea_popescu "We American women think of the swarthy type as a dark-skinned (not black), exotic, intense type of man."
15:05 benkay probably doing pomodoros, ping him louder
15:05 mircea_popescu dude lmao. "we american women" ? who's this lol
15:06 benkay hello_this_is_dog.png
15:07 mircea_popescu more like this-is-retarded-bitch-hour
15:07 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637928.msg7661602#msg7661602
15:07 assbot Evaluating Havelock securities performances
15:07 kakobrekla gold.
15:08 kakobrekla >(gold, real estate, bread, hookers, all would be better measures of value over time than Bitcoin)
15:08 kakobrekla because hookers cant be printed.
15:09 kakobrekla (not yet, at least)
15:09 asciilifeform hookerchain prevents this.
15:09 kakobrekla lol
15:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00081421 = 11.2768 BTC [-] {2}
15:14 mircea_popescu so "the community" of bagholders posing as bitcoin people is getting vocal ?
15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-july-2014-combined-statement/
15:15 benkay sales fee creeping up on account fee.
15:16 mike_c uh
15:16 mike_c "may and july" -> "may and june"?
15:17 mircea_popescu drat
15:18 mircea_popescu your creative accounting
15:18 mircea_popescu You mean the same accounting that is used by every single financial regulatory agency in the world?
15:18 mircea_popescu lmao that fuckwit seriously has the gall to argue4 that stealing people's bitcoins over time is okay ?
15:18 mircea_popescu ;;rated ognasty
15:18 gribble You rated user ognasty on Fri Jun 13 17:07:59 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: pirate shill ; currently running a security that made a 60% loss over two years. a fine example of the scum that unwarrantedly imagines itself somehow part of Bitcoin..
15:19 mircea_popescu mkay.
15:20 asciilifeform !up Dalrymple
15:20 mircea_popescu Blazedout419 in case you're still looking for that, http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/
15:20 assbot MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
15:20 mircea_popescu it's about a year out of date by now, if you're looking for something to do
15:21 mircea_popescu more generally i suppose it being springish again, it's time to revisit last year for the new crop of noobs :
15:21 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/
15:21 assbot The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
15:21 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-may-2014-and-june-2014-combined-statement/
15:22 mircea_popescu and perhaps also http://trilema.com/2013/the-list-of-discontinued-assets-on-mpex/
15:22 assbot The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
15:25 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637928.msg7662458#msg7662458
15:25 assbot Evaluating Havelock securities performances
15:26 mircea_popescu kakobrekla whay so angry
15:26 kakobrekla you dont know angry.
15:27 mircea_popescu hm.
15:27 mike_c bitstamp is awesome
15:27 mike_c (is he angry yet?)
15:27 kakobrekla yes troll sensor also working
15:27 mircea_popescu Also, newsflash, I can call this rock that I am about to throw a 'club', yet it wont feel like one when it hits your face.
15:27 mircea_popescu this was kinda lulzy
15:28 davout_ bitstamp slovenians are best slovenians
15:28 mircea_popescu mostly cause of the club ambiguity
15:28 mircea_popescu davout i hear nigeria beat you froggers in the wc
15:29 davout apparently you're not paying your intel dept enough
15:30 mircea_popescu drat.
15:32 davout ;;ud drat
15:32 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drat | Apple touch icon Download the Free App! 1. drat. What cute people say when they are pissed off. "Oh Drat i lost my wallet". by spanky spangler September 07,  ...
15:33 mircea_popescu davout bet you the krautzes send france home ?
15:33 davout the internet sez you're a cutie!
15:34 davout 1 btc
15:34 davout but not on bitbet
15:34 davout their support sucks
15:34 mircea_popescu yeah on bitbet lol. putting it in nao.
15:35 davout i'm not paying 1% for a private bet between you and me
15:35 mircea_popescu but it's open.
15:36 davout i hear they send winners spider drawings instead of money
15:36 mircea_popescu ahahaha
15:36 mircea_popescu should try thias
15:41 mircea_popescu davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/
15:41 assbot BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No | closing in 1 day 4 hours | weight: 99`949 (100`000 to 1)
15:43 davout mircea_popescu: "pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck." <<< if you reason like this, then you should rename it to bitchbet
15:43 Mats_cd03 benkay: everyone i know with the coiled rattlesnake and/or 'don't tread on me' is ex mil
15:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00081366 = 3.0512 BTC [-] {2}
15:44 mircea_popescu davout how you mean ?
15:45 davout if you argue that the resolution of bitbets can afford lack of clarity by comparing it to the way the woman of your example lacks clarity you should go all the way
15:46 davout but then there's also the question of "where does the lack of clarity stop, and the guy's expectations start"
15:50 mike_c what clarity is missing? when the bet will resolve? obviously it will resolve when the price is known. if it becomes clear the price will never be known, BB mods will do something appropriate.
15:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00081748 = 15.0008 BTC [+]
15:50 pankkake I think davout refers to another bet
15:50 mike_c doesn't help to add a 10 page rider to every bet
15:51 mircea_popescu mike has it.
15:51 pankkake i.e. what if buttcoin-central is renamed to gaymium
15:51 pankkake another bitcoin-qt segfault. gotta learn to not click on it too soon
15:52 davout i think my broader point is that since you don't know what you don't know, it makes sense to define a way to clarify propositions along the way, lest you end up with some rota v2
15:53 davout you cannot perfectly specify a bet, no matter how many pages of specs you write
15:53 mircea_popescu davout sure. but how does that help the arguer's position ?
15:54 mircea_popescu you can't argue from your expectation, gotta argue from reality.
15:55 davout the guy that was requesting support ?
15:55 mircea_popescu well no, the guy that was requesting the bet be cancelled.
15:55 davout ah
15:56 mircea_popescu he briefly masqueraded as requesting support originally i guess.
15:56 davout i think that a reasonable case can be made for cancellation
15:57 davout based on the fact that you have no reliable source for the auction price
15:57 mircea_popescu no case will ever be successfully made for cancellation as long as a legitimate dispute exists.
15:57 davout what do you mean ?
15:57 mircea_popescu that'd have been a good case for not betting.
15:58 davout sure, that's why i didn't bet :-)
15:58 mircea_popescu exactly what i say ?! what part ?
15:58 davout "no case will ever be successfully made for cancellation as long as a legitimate dispute exists."
15:58 davout what's a legitimate dispute ?
15:58 mircea_popescu right.
15:58 mircea_popescu that as long as there's a dispute, a bet doesn't get cancelled.
15:59 mircea_popescu like, people not agreeing.
15:59 davout a dispute about the auction price being >x or <x ?
15:59 mircea_popescu if you got a group saying "the sea is blue" and another "the sky is azure" this isn't a legitimate dispute. they're not talking of the same thing.
15:59 mircea_popescu if one group is like "sea is deep" and the other "no, it's salty" idem
15:59 mircea_popescu but if they don't agree if it's salty or sweet, the bet as to which is is ain't getting cancelled.
16:00 davout what if the bet mod realizes he has no way to measure salinity N
16:00 davout ?
16:00 mircea_popescu mthreat http://bitbet.us/bet/988/argentina-beats-belgium/ btw
16:00 assbot BitBet - Argentina beats Belgium :: 10.06 B (100%) on Yes, 0 B (0%) on No | closing in 2 days 3 hours | weight: 99`770 (100`000 to 10`000)
16:01 mircea_popescu davout best effort is best effort.
16:01 jborkl building the database, the block chain will be searchable by txid, txcount by block, address, amount and UNIX
16:01 mircea_popescu that's not a realisation the mod can ever reach.
16:01 jborkl http://www.bcoinnews.com/printinfo.php
16:01 mircea_popescu should he discover salinity doesn't exist, then it gets cancelled.
16:02 mircea_popescu but it seems quite certain a price was in fact paid, currently.
16:03 davout mircea_popescu: well, what if he genuinely realizes it wasn't correct to assume he'd ever be able to measure salinity? whether he has the certainty that salinity > 0 being irrelevant given the bet conditions
16:03 davout as in, a price has been paid
16:03 davout :-)
16:03 mircea_popescu not his place to realise such a thing.
16:04 mircea_popescu there's no way out of history. what's done is done.
16:05 pankkake http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/03/1846215/nsa-considers-linux-journal-readers-tor-and-linux-users-extremists
16:05 assbot NSA Considers Linux Journal Readers, Tor (And Linux?) Users "Extremists" - Slashdot
16:05 Naphex pankkake: no wonder
16:05 davout mircea_popescu: not sure what you mean
16:05 Naphex most people in those categories are concerned about privacy
16:05 mircea_popescu that's ok, i consider nsa employees child molesters. they're going to jail.
16:05 Naphex from their PoV anyone who gives a shit about privacy will be an extremist
16:05 mircea_popescu davout you know what makes a good error message ?
16:05 mircea_popescu cause this "general failure" thing doesn't halp.
16:06 Naphex General Failure 321
16:06 mircea_popescu a ty
16:07 davout fair enough :-) i'm thinking that "not his place to realise such a thing." is side-stepping the issue, and also not
16:07 davout backed
16:08 davout i mean why? say i'm making this bet about this music note being this or that, and poof, i become deaf
16:08 mircea_popescu but you understand the general principle of limited review ? such that a judge isn't at liberty to vacate the law for instance.
16:09 mircea_popescu the guy you hire to do your plumbing isn't allowed to recommend you buy a different house
16:09 mircea_popescu army captain ordered to hold a position isn't allowed to change the regimental deployment
16:09 Mats_cd03 so youŕe saying bitbet needs a jury
16:09 mircea_popescu random fuckwit that can't afford a 400 dollar swimsuit isn't free to "change the way society regards women"
16:09 mircea_popescu and so on
16:09 davout yes, the guy who does the plumbing can perfectly throw his hands in the air, refund you, and tell you that in fact he doesn't do lead pipes
16:09 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 kinda what the mods are.
16:10 Mats_cd03 a jury that can nullify judgments then
16:10 mircea_popescu davout so a mod can quit bitbet.
16:10 mircea_popescu what's that change.
16:11 davout no, that would translate to quit being a plumber, not refuse to serve a particular client because you don't have the correct tools or qualifications
16:11 mircea_popescu the plumber quitting his plumbing has zero impact. the plumbing company wil still do the plumbing.
16:11 pankkake %diff
16:11 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 785138.67 in 2013 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 0.00
16:12 chetty ah but that would be like refusing to bake a gay wedding cake, not allowed
16:12 mircea_popescu exactly.
16:12 mircea_popescu or like a computer refusing to multiply anything by 548791114
16:12 davout chetty mircea_popescu no because if you do only plastic pipes you can't be forced to install lead pipes
16:12 mircea_popescu also not allowed.
16:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00081256 = 2.5596 BTC [-]
16:15 davout i think that in essence, bitbet and the rota have a lot in common
16:16 mircea_popescu this is not news :)
16:16 mircea_popescu i think i even said as much in the logs, months ago
16:17 davout mircea_popescu: yeah well, i haven't ordered the ba logs paperback yet :-)
16:18 mircea_popescu :p
16:18 davout but i spent some time thinking about this while driving
16:18 davout so, how does it manage to avoid the shortcomings of the rota?
16:18 cgcardona o/ hello #bitcoin-assets
16:19 davout because basically, there's the "evaluate outcome according to environment and bet specs" part of bitbet
16:19 mircea_popescu davout anon mods deliberating in secret. exact opposite of the "citizenship judge" rota model
16:20 davout but there's also the "make a sovereign decision about the resolution conditions uncertainty that came to light after acceptation but before resoltuion"
16:20 davout how's secrecy adding anything here ?
16:21 mircea_popescu i have no idea.
16:21 mike_c rota did not need to decide things for the good of rota. bitbet has a vested interest in making good decisions.
16:21 Apocalyptic kinda reminds me of the venetian rulers
16:22 davout mike_c: true
16:22 mircea_popescu this is a good point yeah
16:23 davout mircea_popescu: so the advantage of secrecy is undecided
16:23 mircea_popescu im just saying it's opposite.
16:23 davout no, you also said you had no idea about how it was an improvement :-)
16:24 mircea_popescu well yes.
16:24 mircea_popescu how is it an improvement is some sort of forward or inside looking statement. i dunno.
16:25 mircea_popescu suppose there's an apple tree and a potato. now, you ask me how is a pomme better than a pomme du terre. nfi man, i just know they're opposite.
16:26 davout ok, so basically makes no sense to sort them
16:27 mircea_popescu what's sort mean and who's them.
16:28 mircea_popescu and hello cgcardona
16:28 davout i mean it makes no sense to try and decide whether secrecy is a better model than non-secrecy
16:28 mircea_popescu mike_c i suspect that's perhaps stretching a point. rota judges did make a salary, and had a deeply vested interest in making th emodel work.
16:29 mircea_popescu they failed to understand it in practice, but this is because people are often lazy, and that's exactly how things like bitcoin can get killed in 2010.
16:29 mircea_popescu davout not without a metric.
16:30 * cgcardona tips hat to MP
16:30 davout yo, pas de relation d'ordre
16:30 cgcardona top of tha mornin sir
16:30 mircea_popescu something like that
16:38 mircea_popescu davout http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/#b4 that you ?
16:38 assbot BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 1.06 B (88%) on Yes, 0.14 B (12%) on No | closing in 1 day 3 hours | weight: 96`594 (100`000 to 1)
16:39 thestringpuller shots fired
16:41 FabianB []bot: you alive?
16:41 mircea_popescu seems not
16:42 FabianB artifexd: ?
16:42 davout mircea_popescu: no
16:42 mircea_popescu well ok, lem me know when you're in and ill cover to even odds
16:46 davout mircea_popescu: ok done
16:46 chetty http://news.yahoo.com/could-strenuous-exercise-night-mean-better-sleep-211528590--spt.html
16:46 assbot Could strenuous exercise at night mean better sleep? - Yahoo News
16:47 mircea_popescu eh what the heck, im so overconfident i just put another 1 btc. so there.
16:47 kyuupichan mircea_popescu: Is the Bastille bet considered controversial? Or mods just got bored of resolving bets y/day?
16:48 mircea_popescu kyuupichan i don't imagine it's controversial.
16:48 mircea_popescu lemme see
16:48 kyuupichan OK, boredom it is
16:48 chetty Many people would rather inflict pain on themselves than spend 15 minutes in a room with nothing to do but think
16:48 mike_c kyuupichan: what was this mystery mpex conversation you had with daniel?
16:48 mircea_popescu Resolution: in 1 week 4 days (15-07-2014)
16:49 mircea_popescu nothing controversial about it, but its date hasn't come yet.
16:49 kyuupichan mircea_popescu: But it's already happened no? Other bets are resolved early if they happen.
16:49 mircea_popescu it's "on" not "by"
16:50 kyuupichan The explanatory text is clearly "by". "On or before".
16:50 mircea_popescu o nm it's on or before.
16:50 benkay http://dogebark.nijotz.com/
16:50 benkay ^^ dns barker
16:50 BingoBoingo Omg someone is trying to unkill of of my death with bombs!!!
16:50 kyuupichan The disconnect between the two is unfortunate
16:50 mircea_popescu kyuupichan yeah prolly going out today.
16:50 kyuupichan Thx
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 72 @ 0.0172 = 1.2384 BTC [+]
16:52 davout mircea_popescu: BUT WHAT IF THERE'S ANOTHER MATCH 58 FR vs DE IN THE WC OF SOME UNRELATED SPORT ??
16:52 mike_c BingoBoingo: looks like somebody got into life real low.
16:53 BingoBoingo mike_c: The irony is once again the bombs seem to be setting themselves up for failure
16:53 benkay asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: where's the post detailing cardano rng construction?
16:54 kyuupichan mike_c: Not sure I remember most of it. I'd rather it remained private though.
16:54 mike_c kako can turn off the logger
16:55 mircea_popescu davout tough
16:55 mircea_popescu benkay in s.nsa somewhere
16:55 davout yeah well, france would win both anyway
16:58 mircea_popescu the only thing france wins is buttruining on pikes marathon
16:58 davout i'm starting to suspect that this france vs germany bet is going to get bigger than the berkshire one
16:59 BingoBoingo benkay: http://trilema.com/2013/the-reason-you-cant-have-nice-numbers-and-other-considerations/ ???
16:59 assbot The reason you can’t have nice numbers and other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
16:59 davout :D
16:59 mircea_popescu well... not this one
16:59 mircea_popescu but maybe if a real country was involved.
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999985 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2}
17:00 mircea_popescu hanbot was like "o why are you so mean ?! wait, this is davout ? nm, be as mean as you wish!"
17:00 davout LOL
17:00 BingoBoingo Shame a real country like Algeria couldn't eliminate France
17:01 mircea_popescu nah that'd have sucked
17:01 davout such shame, very sad
17:01 mircea_popescu i don;t know many algerians with btc to bitch at
17:01 davout at least we got some sleep in paris, algeria winning = honking cars all night
17:02 davout as a sidenote, the whole "service is shitty, but it's fast!" has been a thing in france for the last 20 years
17:02 mircea_popescu lol
17:03 davout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7NB_RwtPx4&feature=kp
17:03 assbot Chevalier et Laspales le train pour pau - YouTube
17:03 BingoBoingo !up Sebastan
17:03 BingoBoingo !up chax
17:03 BingoBoingo !up navhul-lacsup
17:03 davout CECI DIT, IL EST TRES RAPIDE!
17:03 mircea_popescu "my cock is small. but it squitrs quickly"
17:06 jborkl sweet
17:06 BingoBoingo %tslb
17:06 atcbot 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!)
17:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00081748 = 12.6709 BTC [+]
17:08 BingoBoingo %d
17:08 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 785138.67 in 2001 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 0.00
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13588 @ 0.00081757 = 11.1091 BTC [+] {2}
17:08 mircea_popescu wow shit look at that, someone covered the krautz bet.
17:09 mircea_popescu artifexd somehow []bot is missing out on all the bitbet excitement lol
17:09 BingoBoingo %t
17:09 benkay nah, not quite BingoBoingo
17:09 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 250 Last Price: 229 24h-Vol: 85k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 218
17:10 BingoBoingo %ob
17:10 artifexd Thanks
17:10 atcbot 19k@272 724@270 709@250 | 33k@200 898k@199 500k@151
17:10 artifexd She should start acting right again.
17:11 jborkl 90000 blocks through the rebuilt blockchain and I am at 25MB
17:11 mircea_popescu o wait [] is a gal ?
17:11 artifexd As her creator, I refer to her as such. And thus, yes.
17:11 mircea_popescu cool.
17:12 mircea_popescu ( . ) ( . ) bot shoul dbe in change of boobies.
17:12 benkay $boobs
17:12 davout mircea_popescu: according to bitbet rules and closing dates i can cancel my bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/ until the last minute of the match right?
17:12 assbot BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 2.06 B (49%) on Yes, 2.14 B (51%) on No | closing in 1 day 2 hours | weight: 94`609 (100`000 to 1)
17:12 benkay in other news, i've learned that having the hairline trimmed into symmetry is a horrible idea.
17:12 mircea_popescu davout waitwut
17:12 mircea_popescu !up defaboy
17:13 davout bet closes on saturday
17:13 davout match is on friday
17:13 BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/07/rolling_coal_conservatives_who_show_their_annoyance_with_liberals_obama.html
17:13 assbot Rolling Coal: Conservatives who show their annoyance with liberals, Obama, and the EPA by blowing black smoke from their trucks.
17:13 davout so technically, before the match is ended i can bet at anytime
17:13 mircea_popescu davout nah, its gonna refund all bets made after 1st half
17:13 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/#c3299
17:13 assbot BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 7.06 B (77%) on Yes, 2.14 B (23%) on No | closing in 1 day 2 hours | weight: 94`539 (100`000 to 1)
17:13 davout lol k
17:13 mircea_popescu artifexd seems it missed anothr one ?
17:14 artifexd Last bet was 14 minutes ago
17:14 davout so that is 1 confirmation before 45 minutes + additionnal time
17:15 artifexd Last bet created was 30 minutes ago
17:15 artifexd So, not yet.
17:15 davout argh, i liked the "say 'deal', spit on the ground" approach :D
17:15 mircea_popescu artifexd a 5btc bet just went through no ?
17:15 artifexd Not that I see.
17:15 artifexd Where?
17:15 mircea_popescu davout aditional time is like, up i nthe air :D
17:16 mircea_popescu artifexd well i just noticed the france bet went from 2ish to 7ish on one side
17:16 davout mircea_popescu: "Irrespective of what the close date says, bets made after half time will be refunded." <<< not to nitpick, but now mods can redefine bets? :D
17:16 mircea_popescu always could.
17:17 artifexd Hmmm... another crash.
17:17 benkay <trinque> benkay: somebody should write something that saturates idle connections with encrypted dummy data // any bored programmers want to irritate the NSA? trinque's full of good ideas today
17:17 davout mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742364 <<< but this?
17:17 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:17 benkay ;;ticker
17:17 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 641.64, Best ask: 643.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.34000, Last trade: 641.62, 24 hour volume: 4768.02134696, 24 hour low: 638.79, 24 hour high: 652.79, 24 hour vwap: 646.281389953
17:17 artifexd Investigating....
17:18 mircea_popescu davout there's an ambiguity between "mods" here. BitBet Mod in red on the site is merely the official position of bitbet.
17:19 mircea_popescu benkay you and your extremist friends.
17:20 asciilifeform benkay: there is nothing especially secret about the rng.
17:20 trinque the hard part would be getting enough people to use it for it to matter
17:21 asciilifeform benkay: it is a very simple design based on johnson noise. -- plus, the entire design will be published in excruciating detail.
17:21 mircea_popescu trinque maybe something like an always on crypoted messaging app
17:22 mircea_popescu that constantly sends the same debit to everyone.
17:22 asciilifeform (if someone wants to buy a chinese 'turdano' - its own punishment.)
17:22 trinque mircea_popescu: that's interesting
17:22 BingoBoingo http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29rh1f/allaire_wolf_in_sheeps_clothing/
17:22 assbot Allaire - Wolf in Sheep's Clothing : Bitcoin
17:22 mircea_popescu guarantees 1kbps of text.
17:23 mircea_popescu whether you send text or it just pads with noise... no difference. it sends 1kbps
17:23 trinque mircea_popescu: that's basically what I was thinking in terms of a p2p filesharing app recently
17:23 asciilifeform saturation is the only real pill against traffic analysis.
17:23 mircea_popescu yeah, could be a messaging app with filesharing.
17:23 mircea_popescu slow as fuck i guess
17:24 mircea_popescu then again you can prolly optimise the distribution a little, and preserve the "no meta" value of the original broadcast design
17:24 mircea_popescu without being stuck sending bw to EVERYONE all the time
17:30 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
17:30 gribble Time since last block: 16 minutes and 42 seconds
17:30 BingoBoingo http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-quickly-a-genius-startup-can-tank-1599840136/+laceydonohue
17:30 assbot How Quickly a "Genius" Startup Can Tank
17:31 mircea_popescu "Bitcoin is not the unit of account, as you are not held accountable for that unit by anyone."
17:31 mircea_popescu herp.
17:31 mircea_popescu says scammer getting ripped a new one in a thread dedicated to how he's lost people's btc
17:32 mircea_popescu Bloodhound had everything going for it. TechCrunch once hailed the tradeshow app as "genius" and Peter Thiel lead a $3 million investment round in the "blowing up" company.
17:33 mircea_popescu how is this possible!
17:33 BingoBoingo From the comments >>
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17:33 BingoBoingo Go to permalink
17:33 BingoBoingo "they ultimately signed a five-year lease for $31,667 a month in rent (plus $564 in fees)—more than six times the amount the arts collective had been previously paying." When you get taken that badly by a LANDLORD in a negotiation, maybe business isn't the right line of work for you. Disgraceful.
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01415 = 0.7075 BTC [+]
17:34 mircea_popescu the author sounds like a butthurt artsy chick upset that money exists.
17:34 mircea_popescu and her name is Kevin Montgomery, which is apt.
17:36 Bet placed: 3.355 BTC for No on "Krautzes send France home" http://bitbet.us/bet/987/ Odds: 56(Y):44(N) by coin, 56(Y):44(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.60838675 BTC. Current weight: 93,229.
17:36 punkman punkman: http://bitbet.us/bet/983/bitcoin-volatility-august-over-200/ <- links to http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^GSPC
17:36 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin volatility August over $200 :: 0.19 B (78%) on Yes, 0.06 B (22%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 weeks | weight: 98`203 (100`000 to 1)
17:36 assbot ^GSPC: Summary for S&P 500- Yahoo! Finance
17:36 BingoBoingo lol
17:37 punkman oh there's a comment, never mind
17:37 BingoBoingo Butthurt Artsy chick vs. Failing startup burn rate
17:37 mircea_popescu punkman yeah
17:37 punkman my gold bet made it, yay
17:37 punkman bet the other guy is butthurt
17:37 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo match made in heaven huh ? i saw this film cca 1940, back when cagney was the fronteer ruffian and whoever the fuck was the boston damsel
17:38 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/988/argentina-beats-belgium/ << someone dump this on reddit btw ? im kinda fond of the description
17:38 assbot BitBet - Argentina beats Belgium :: 11.06 B (64%) on Yes, 6.27 B (36%) on No | closing in 2 days 2 hours | weight: 96`953 (100`000 to 10`000)
17:39 BingoBoingo Rofl! Nothing at all is New!!!
17:41 punkman http://bitbet.us/media/images/ads/bit445.jpg <- "leading sports sport book" heh
17:42 mircea_popescu people are missing out on perhaps the only good advertising deal in bitcoin, what can i say.
17:54 mircea_popescu wait a god damned fucking second. 10k sq foot space in sf mission
17:54 mircea_popescu people are bitching about 30k rent ?!
17:55 asciilifeform lol!
17:55 mircea_popescu they want to pay... 50 cents a square foot ?!
17:55 mircea_popescu what sort of paralel universe is gawker living in. you can't get residential in seattle for 50 cents a sq foot
17:55 trinque I think the point was they had no business renting it
17:55 asciilifeform where does one get 50 cents? aircraft hangar in kazahstan ?
17:55 mircea_popescu seems they did.
17:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform my main place in ro was ~7k sq feet and it cost me like .3 per
17:55 mircea_popescu but THATS ME
17:56 mircea_popescu wtf.
17:56 trinque I'm still trying to figure out what's "genius" about a tradeshow app
17:56 mike_c i think i'm paying $3.50, unfortunately out of my own pocket and not some VC
17:56 mircea_popescu this is a fucking joke, this article.
17:56 mircea_popescu "what conventional business cvould afford 3-4 per sq foot " ?!?!
17:56 mircea_popescu i dunno, how about a fucking lemonade stand.
17:56 mike_c ^ could be said about any gawker article
17:56 mircea_popescu selling nails
17:57 mircea_popescu your average sf escort could aford a 50k sq foot place to fuck in
17:58 trinque http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/23/bloodhound-event-app/
17:58 assbot Conference App Bloodhound’s Genius Growth Strategy Attracts $3M Series A Led By Thiel’s FF Angel | TechCrunch
17:58 trinque what a visionary app
17:59 trinque words have lost their meaning
17:59 mircea_popescu you know, just because a bunch of tards drunk methanol and are now blind
17:59 mircea_popescu doesn't mean the sun has lost its shine
18:01 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uabkPEgpOiY
18:01 assbot Silicon Valley 1x07 - Jared - Facial recognition app - YouTube
18:01 asciilifeform ^ relevant
18:02 * BingoBoingo can't wait till startups concern themselves with Burn rate and move to the Mojave in tents
18:02 trinque asciilifeform: haha
18:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00081503 = 3.4231 BTC [-]
18:07 mircea_popescu "We’d like to thank our wonderful community of nearly 10 years for helping us co-create a space that showcased the immeasurable talent, passion, and diversity of San Francisco’s artists, activists, makers, thinkers, and dreamers. We hope that this vision of shared responsibility and radical inclusion extends beyond the life of the organization."
18:07 mircea_popescu i think immeasurable is the right word.
18:08 mircea_popescu "When Million Fishes started at the corner of 23rd and Bryant in 2003, the gallery windows were boarded shut and drugs were sold on the street outside. When the gallery became a live space, it made the street less attractive for drug dealing, but it also helped usher in the wave of gentrification that has now overtaken us."
18:08 mircea_popescu check that out, hippy chicks propose they drove out the thugs
18:08 mircea_popescu with free love.
18:08 asciilifeform this - the google bus smashers again?
18:09 mircea_popescu no idea
18:10 trinque mircea_popescu: thugs hate radical acceptance and trust
18:10 trinque it is their natural enemy
18:10 mircea_popescu totally.
18:10 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNEUc5k7Jw << also relevant (same movie)
18:10 assbot Silicon Valley (HBO) - Parking Lot App. Scene - YouTube
18:10 mircea_popescu also, no artist ever did drugs.
18:11 mircea_popescu there are also numerous cases of ex drug lords turned into reddit feminists by being held captive in a san francisco commune for two weeks.
18:11 mircea_popescu there are hwoever no known cases of abducted retarded artsy chicks that spend the next decade whoring.
18:12 assbot Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1FNQZXW.txt )
18:12 BingoBoingo !b 7
18:12 mircea_popescu also, patty hearst is not a historical character.
18:13 mircea_popescu (who definitely didn't marry her... bodyguard, afterwards)
18:22 benkay done with client work for the weekend wooooooooooo
18:22 benkay celebrating american independence day in true cascadian fashion by going up to the forest with the babe and the dog
18:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00081713 = 1.4708 BTC [+]
18:22 benkay poopin in the bull run
18:23 benkay oh yeah, subject of the Bull Run, water *sucks* in Argentina.
18:23 benkay leastaways bsas
~ 18 minutes ~
18:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 52 @ 0.0142 = 0.7384 BTC [+] {2}
18:44 mircea_popescu vilavicencio is ok
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19:03 davout such priceless -> http://www.cupfoundation.net/
19:03 assbot The Foundation
19:04 davout "supports state/country tax recovery and is speculation resistant."
19:05 mircea_popescu What is ⊔?
19:05 mircea_popescu ⊔ is pronounced /kʌp/ and is Unicode character U+2294.
19:05 mircea_popescu these fucktards. THAT is what i wanna hear first ?
19:05 benkay dafuq?
19:05 mircea_popescu in what parallel universe is THAT what interests me ? what are we, in junior high ?
19:06 davout yo, create currency, select unicode character, work done
19:06 mircea_popescu they've been derping in bars for a year now
19:06 davout after reading this i had the weird urge to re-watch the feincoin video
19:06 mircea_popescu stil don't have an elevator speech
19:07 mircea_popescu http://www.cupfoundation.net/ig_relation.svg
19:08 mircea_popescu this has got to be the world's most fucktarded graphic.
19:08 mircea_popescu i desire the ability to rescind highschool diplomas via gribble.
19:08 davout the guy also derps about another virtual currency, the euro-franc
19:08 davout unfortunately this shit isn't translated to english -> http://cupfoundation.wordpress.com/2014/06/10/faq-eurofranc/
19:08 assbot FAQ Eurofranc | Foundation
19:08 mircea_popescu ;;send everyone involved with cupfoundation back to 5th grade kthx
19:08 gribble Error: "send" is not a valid command.
19:09 davout basically the idea behind eurofranc is that bitcoin is a scam
19:09 davout and that everyone should be entitled to free money every month
19:09 mircea_popescu herp.
19:11 davout srsly, pankkake Apocalyptic read dat shit if you need a good laugh
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00081769 = 19.0522 BTC [+] {4}
19:11 mircea_popescu http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/Five-Fingers-Bikila-EVO-Womens.htm << omg the shoesock lives!
19:13 benkay oh heck yeah
19:13 benkay you should see the nerds all bedecked
19:14 mircea_popescu lol
19:14 mircea_popescu why, it gets you laid ?
19:15 benkay comfy?
19:15 mircea_popescu o they are ?
19:15 benkay ;;google nonconformity competence
19:15 gribble The Red Sneakers Effect: Inferring Status and Competence from ...: <http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=45809>; The Red Sneakers Effect: Inferring Status and Competence from ...: <http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/download.aspx?name=The+Red+Sneakers+Effect+2014.pdf>; Nonconformity, Competence, and Influence in Groups: A Test ... - Jstor: <http://www.jstor.org/stable/2095064>
19:15 mircea_popescu i thought they're supposed to be like for running.
19:15 benkay super comfy.
19:15 mircea_popescu it'd drive me fucking nuts to have shit between my toes.
19:15 benkay i mean ultrathin soled shoes in general.
19:16 benkay provided you don't mind prancing around on your toes, that is. heel striking is only viable when you've got padding under your heel.
19:16 benkay try it on concrete in bare feet, see what i mean.
19:17 mircea_popescu no ty, i'm old enough to know exactly what shoes i want.
19:17 punkman I had a pair of those, they were very comfortable indeed
19:18 mircea_popescu shoes for people that kick no butts.
19:18 punkman http://www.vivobarefoot.com/eu/mens <- these guys have thin soles and you don't have to look like a clown
19:18 assbot Mens Shoes | Barefoot Trainers | VIVOBAREFOOT
19:18 davout i can't wait to report on persianshoes.com
19:20 benkay pff that's what the ass-kickin shoes are for
19:20 benkay "hang on a sec, i gotta put on my ass-kickin shoes and kick your ass. don't go anywhere."
19:20 mircea_popescu punkman they seem like perhaps a credible variant in between making the girls go barefoot everwhere and odd duality.
19:20 mircea_popescu provided they have nude colors rather than clown palette
19:20 punkman the fivefingers?
19:20 mircea_popescu ya
19:21 benkay i was hoping for magic fingers, tbqh
19:21 punkman yeah might not look so bad on some more delicate feet, but on mine...
19:21 benkay another bullshit thing about thevibrams is that they're essentially a heat-sealed plastic bag for your feet.
19:22 mircea_popescu benkay o is it actually polymer ?
19:22 punkman they have some good fabrics
19:22 benkay my first set were.
19:22 mircea_popescu scratch that then
19:23 benkay who knows if their fancy variants are as well, or if they've solved the 'breathing' problem.
19:23 punkman I had the open ones, they were pretty airy
19:24 benkay well tchyeah the open ones would be
19:24 punkman they had a waterproof boot version back in the day
19:24 punkman was hilarious
19:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00081689 = 6.6577 BTC [-]
19:25 benkay i think they're great. get intimate with the street etc.
19:25 benkay that said, they're not classy at all, and the only performance footwear i actually require are carbon-fiber bike shoes.
19:25 benkay which are *also* fucking great.
19:25 mircea_popescu what sort of a whore's phylosophy is that.
19:25 mircea_popescu i ain't about to get intimate with the street ON THE STREET
19:25 mircea_popescu S TERMS
19:25 benkay some amount of sarcasm...
19:25 mircea_popescu o
19:26 benkay but also it's a prophylactic lol
19:26 benkay 'cause the fuckers seal, you see
19:30 * jurov is on lookout for new shoes too
19:32 jurov had adidas buckskin sneakers with thin and flexible soles
19:32 jurov that took 5 years of abuse
19:32 jurov dunno if i find anything like today
19:34 trinque how could we jam an encrypted p2p chat app into facebook?
19:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00081528 = 3.3426 BTC [-]
19:35 mircea_popescu facebookchain ?
19:35 trinque mircea_popescu: my thought is that the plebs use facebook and aren't likely to switch
19:36 trinque so if some white knight wanted to get them to encrypt their chats he'd have to do so from within
19:36 punkman trinque: you can do OTR on facebook
19:36 punkman !google facebook otr
19:37 trinque punkman: yep if you use XMPP right?
19:38 punkman yeah but if both parties have an XMPP client, why even use facebook
19:40 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/109JCAH.txt )
19:40 BingoBoingo !b 4
19:40 jurov yeah that won't even help if they chat via fb website
19:40 punkman jurov, but we can do it in the browser!!!111!
19:41 jurov is there some easy to use plugin?
19:41 jurov at least?
19:41 punkman the answer is fuck facebook
19:41 dignork jurov: yeah, for pidgin :(
19:49 kyuupichan Gonna take a miracle for me to be flat on bitbet this yr.
19:55 kyuupichan ;;bc,stats
19:55 gribble Current Blocks: 309080 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1383 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 5 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15891657670.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.51063
19:56 kyuupichan http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/
19:56 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (35%) on Yes, 2.44 B (65%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 83`253 (100`000 to 1)
19:56 kyuupichan Still no-one tempted
19:59 benkay betting against diff?
19:59 benkay http://planscope.io/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/youre-going-to-have-a-bad-time.png
20:00 kyuupichan Every 60 blocks, apart from the first one, since the diff increase has been slower than 10hrs. Some hashpower is gonna have to appear soon to make it up and stop a fall.
20:01 kyuupichan Wonder where it all went.
20:06 mircea_popescu trinque you can't encrypt "from within" in that context i dont think
20:07 mircea_popescu kyuupichan people been so burned on diff bets...
20:07 mircea_popescu look through the logs. it keeps looking that way, but then... nope.
20:08 kyuupichan I'm well up on diff bets. Got utterly fucked on the Gox 1st March bet tho.
20:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.03273408 = 1.8331 BTC [-] {7}
20:08 kyuupichan Biggest money launderers in fiat complain about money laundering potential of bitcoin
20:08 kyuupichan http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/0703/628309-bitfin-conference/
20:08 assbot Central Bank official warns on Bitcoin impact - RTÉ News
20:11 mircea_popescu i wonder how long till the hos figure out the prize for bitching is beating, and they really wanna line up in here ready to suck us off.
20:12 mircea_popescu who the fuck asked fiat bankers what they think on any topic ? what's next, asking the primitive tribes in africa about interspatial flight ?
20:20 mircea_popescu ;;later tell kakobrekla hey let's improve the odds calculator for bitbet. Calculator: placing a winning BTC bet on:Yes pays: 1.46984385 BTC No pays: 2.41177082 BTC should read : Yes pays: 1.46984385 BTC (~47/100) No pays: 2.41177082 BTC (~141/100). it's fucktarded, but some people are used to it.
20:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:21 mike_c hey, what about american odds?
20:21 mircea_popescu which are those ?
20:21 mike_c +141 and -213
20:22 mircea_popescu a
20:22 BingoBoingo mike_c: You don't even use those, you use decimal odds!
20:22 mike_c who the hell can understand american odds
20:24 mircea_popescu ;;later tell kakobrekla apparently also moneyline ( moneyline = (-100) / (decimal -1) , so 1.46984385 BTC (~47/100 ; −212.83)
20:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:26 mircea_popescu ;;later tell kakobrekla except if it's over 2, then it's (decimal-1)/100, so 2.41177082 BTC (~141/100 ; +141.17)
20:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:26 mircea_popescu pretty fucktarded, the moneyline system
20:27 mike_c * 100, but he'll get it
20:28 mike_c given that I have been more exposed to american odds than anything else, I don't think I am biased when I say decimal odds are by far the best method.
20:29 mircea_popescu i don't think an argument can be had there.
20:30 mircea_popescu anyway, by not simplifying the fractions i think we'll be doing a lot to ease brits into sanity.
20:31 BingoBoingo Well, most Asian odds are fractional anyway right?
20:31 mircea_popescu i have no idea
20:33 BingoBoingo %t
20:33 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 201 Ask: 250 Last Price: 200 24h-Vol: 61k High: 229 Low: 199 VWAP: 218
20:33 BingoBoingo %d
20:33 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 1100005.78 in 1971 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: 40.10
20:34 BingoBoingo %ob
20:34 atcbot 19k@272 724@270 709@250 | 45k@201 30k@200 898k@199
20:37 BingoBoingo %tslb
20:37 atcbot 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!)
20:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00081638 = 4.8575 BTC [+]
20:44 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
20:44 gribble Current Blocks: 309086 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1377 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 43 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15931508982.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.27368
20:46 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/
20:46 assbot BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014 :: 0.96 B (88%) on Yes, 0.13 B (12%) on No | closed 3 months 2 hours ago
20:46 mircea_popescu jesus that bet.
20:49 BingoBoingo That was one of the better small pots. Seems there was no reason to put any money on "No" though
20:50 mircea_popescu nuts that it called it one month early.
20:51 BingoBoingo Well, I write bets gud. Like this time I bet against people I know IRL http://bitbet.us/bet/312/npda-college-debate-championship-2013-mckendree-college/
20:51 assbot BitBet - NPDA College Debate Championship 2013 - McKendree College to win :: 2.35 B (34%) on Yes, 4.5 B (66%) on No | closed 1 year 3 months ago
20:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1624 @ 0.00081638 = 1.3258 BTC [+]
20:54 mircea_popescu ;;diff
20:54 gribble 1.6818461371161112E10
20:54 BingoBoingo %ob
20:54 atcbot 19k@272 724@270 709@250 | 250k@225 45k@201 30k@200
20:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4776 @ 0.00081638 = 3.899 BTC [+]
20:57 Bet created: "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/
20:58 BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/yankees-reliever-suspended-50-games-for-fun-drugs-1599845051
20:58 assbot Yankees Reliever Suspended 50 Games For Fun Drugs
20:59 BingoBoingo ^ If you can you must
21:03 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: What is this maximum open orders bullshit?
21:06 mircea_popescu !up noirotica
21:06 mircea_popescu is this deadspin site a gawker property ?
21:06 mircea_popescu same idiotic native css
21:07 trinque let the athletes do their drugs, I say.
21:08 trinque imagine a hockey game where the players are all jacked on amphetamines
21:08 trinque now that's excitement
21:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 45 @ 0.01170499 = 0.5267 BTC [-] {4}
21:08 mircea_popescu trinque you dont grok the economics involved.
21:09 mike_c mircea_popescu: yes.. part of the "gawker media group". bingo is addicted. probably worse for his liver than drinking.
21:09 mircea_popescu hockey thrives on us and canada advertising. that advertising sells to males. males are pussies, and will only watc h the sport if the woman in charge of them allows it.
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 279 @ 0.01166006 = 3.2532 BTC [-] {2}
21:09 mircea_popescu women are mentally ill, and will not allow them watch it if it's bloody.
21:09 mircea_popescu your proposal goes against the very point of hockey, which is ad revenue.
21:10 mircea_popescu mike_c i can see it.
21:10 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,995.
21:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It is generally it is the less retarded one, but still awfully retarded
21:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 61 @ 0.01151556 = 0.7024 BTC [-] {3}
21:14 trinque mircea_popescu: that's mighty MRA of you
21:14 mircea_popescu ;;ud mra
21:14 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MRA | MRA. Acronym for a group called Men's Rights Activists. I.E. - A bunch of whiny pedantic morons that think there is some vast Illuminati feminist conspiracy while  ...
21:14 mircea_popescu o srsly ?
21:15 mircea_popescu ok, so you telling me that if hockey was offensive to every woman you knew, like on the level of infant snuff videos offensive, you'd still watch it ?
21:16 trinque I'm not aware of a vast female campaign against hockey
21:16 mircea_popescu wasn't what i said was it ?
21:16 trinque something something mentally ill something blood
21:17 trinque anyhow this is not something I am deeply concerned about
21:17 mircea_popescu interesting approach.
21:18 mircea_popescu you may find that the noun-only filter doesn't work equally well in all environments.
21:18 mike_c <+mircea_popescu> ok, so you telling me that if hockey was offensive to every woman you knew << he still watches porn.
21:18 trinque mircea_popescu: "women are mentally ill"
21:18 trinque that's 15 year old boy level discourse right there
21:18 mircea_popescu this is arguing for "men's rights" ?
21:18 mircea_popescu ...
21:19 mircea_popescu you think north american women are, generally speaking, mentally healthy ?!
21:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 103 @ 0.01033644 = 1.0647 BTC [-] {4}
21:19 trinque I think most modern humans are not mentally healthy, and that the distinction has nothing to do with gender
21:20 trinque although if you want to find a reason, taking a look at the patriarchial relationships between men would be a good place to start
21:20 mircea_popescu but this contextualization is absolutely irrelevant.
21:20 mircea_popescu my argument doesn't hinge on the mental health of anyone else outside the identified group.
21:21 trinque mircea_popescu: you're backpedaling from "bitches be crazy"
21:21 trinque :p
21:21 mircea_popescu if i tell you how the internal combustion engine works and i include a mention of gasoline being combustible, you're going to say that hydrogen also burns ?
21:21 mircea_popescu so does zinc, for crying out loud. so what of it.
21:21 trinque again, if you want your silly little boy rhetoric about women, keep it
21:21 trinque you're not embarassing me
21:21 mircea_popescu trinque i toldja the "nouns-only" filter doesn't work. it's not my fault it don't work. i didn't say "bitchez be crazy", and you're not at liberty to identify any things with three holes and a nubbin.
21:22 mircea_popescu that's ok. you'll be embarrassed if i want you to be, or not if i don't want you to be. it's a tool of power, and i'm immune to it, this embarassment thingee.
21:23 trinque oh dear
21:24 mircea_popescu well, you're at least doing better than the previous derp who stumbled in here, so who knows. maybe this time it works out.
21:25 BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com mircea's dick
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21:27 mircea_popescu !up jborkl
21:27 mircea_popescu what happened to you
21:27 jborkl Grazi
21:28 jborkl I have been non stop either work or building php back end
21:29 mircea_popescu don't tell people here you're php ing they'll be mean.
21:29 mircea_popescu http://listverse.com/2009/12/26/10-urban-legends-that-caused-a-moral-panic/ << check out this clump of wisdom.
21:29 assbot 10 Urban Legends that Caused a Moral Panic - Listverse
21:29 BingoBoingo ==== mean
21:29 jborkl Oh well I mean Go. You know so I can cool
21:29 jborkl Be
21:30 BingoBoingo Maybe even B===========================================D kinda mean
21:30 mircea_popescu rainbow parties never happened. nobody gets drunk by taking alcohol up his butt. no snuff film was ever produced.
21:30 mircea_popescu list goes on
21:31 BingoBoingo Eh, snuff films are prolly the most IRL common of those listed things.
21:32 mircea_popescu depends whose l i guess.
21:32 jborkl Shitty finger tattoos just mean you live or have lived in a trailer park
21:33 BingoBoingo Well considering Dash cams are a thing, and what kills more than motor carriage accidents?
21:33 mircea_popescu o i see.
21:34 BingoBoingo Snuff films seem to be a self realizing urban legend
21:34 asciilifeform item #6 was originally purported to happen in african pestholes. no mention of this.
21:35 jborkl And trailer park chicks will do about anything anyway :/
21:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i recall that, yeah.
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.03079906 = 0.5852 BTC [-]
21:35 asciilifeform http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/africa2.htm
21:35 assbot BLEEDING HEARTS
21:35 mircea_popescu jborkl is this the voice of experience ?
21:36 jborkl I have known many trailer trash girls.
21:36 mircea_popescu benkay incidentally, where do you find them ?
21:36 mircea_popescu or maybe the better q should be, how do you keep your sanitee.
21:37 asciilifeform http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201111/movie-set-that-ate-itself-dau-ilya-khrzhanovsky
21:37 assbot On the Movie Set of Director Ilya Khrzhanovsky's Dau
21:38 asciilifeform ^ found through that link. demented film maker decides to make a biopic of lev landau (of landau & lifschitz), gets people to live in a 'soviet reservation' for realism.
21:39 mircea_popescu is the film worth it ?
21:39 asciilifeform haven't seen yet.
21:39 jborkl That is bumming me out that rainbow parties are in there. I kept hoping I would be invited to be on the liptstick reciving side
21:40 asciilifeform http://www.caravanmagazine.in/photo-essay/never-ending-story
21:40 assbot The Never-ending Story | The Caravan - A Journal of Politics and Culture
21:40 asciilifeform ^ more
21:41 mircea_popescu jborkl to quote frankie, "to have fun you need to organize it"
21:41 asciilifeform 'Director Ilya Khrzhanovsky on set. He is known to interview potential female cast members with questions like “Can you come up to a guy in a club and sleep with him without finding out as much as his name?”, or “Are any of your friends whores?”'
21:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform afaik any cinema school worth its salt requires nude practice from juniors.
21:43 mircea_popescu kinda weeds out the actors from the hippies.
21:43 asciilifeform 'The fine system is the Institute's latest innovation. Khrzhanovsky decreed it a few months ago, fed up with staffers smuggling cell phones and talking about Facebook. Other finable offenses include tardiness, which costs a whole day's pay, and failure to renew the fake Institute pass. The program has been a hit. Not only has morale improved, a whole new euphemistic vocabulary has sprouted up. ("Google" is now "
21:43 asciilifeform Pravda," as in "Pravda it.") The fine system has also fostered a robust culture of snitching. "In a totalitarian regime, mechanisms of suppression trigger mechanisms of betrayal," the director explains. "I am very interested in that."'
21:44 asciilifeform 'Landau significantly advanced quantum mechanics with his theories of diamagnetism, superfluidity, and superconductivity. He also tapped epic amounts of ass.'
21:44 punkman asciilifeform: I remember reading about that year's ago, so he's finally gonna release something
21:44 mircea_popescu punkman sounds more like the guy's in it for the kicks
21:44 punkman too bad he won't put up a torrent with 6 years worth of footage
21:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform is that true ?
21:45 asciilifeform 'The only acting professional in the cast is Radmila Shchegoleva, who plays Landau's wife; before shooting began, she spent a full year working at a chocolate factory and a hospital, a regimen devised by Khrzhanovsky to beat the actress out of her.'
21:45 asciilifeform seems like its in pre-release edits
21:45 jborkl 200,000 blocks built 1.5gb so far. I think my new block explorer will be about 3gb
21:45 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Yeast begin dying around 15 proof. Alcohol is a choice antimicrobial agent. To obtain higher proofs you must distill the mash to make poteen, white lightning... brandy, or single malt scotch. << Freezing works too though it tends to leave fusile alcohols
21:45 mike_c jborkl: i doubt it. those last 100k blocks are a doozie :)
21:46 mircea_popescu lol mike knows
21:46 BingoBoingo Yeah, Imma playing with the blockchain atm (Really nice size for testing database operations speeds) It gets bigger
21:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00081782 = 2.3308 BTC [+] {2}
21:47 mircea_popescu so is this mra thing more than people being pissed off at the way us family court works re allocating children in a divorce ?
21:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well it's also morally impoverished men wishing they can be what they imagine western feminism is
21:48 jborkl Well the way I am building it I think will work out that way. I will find out sometime tomorrow I guess
21:48 mircea_popescu according to them, or more trinquesque "all items with three holes on them are powerplugs" sorta strawman ?
21:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as i understand, it's a peculiarly sad 'chinese copy' of the usual 'victimhood olympics.'
21:49 BingoBoingo Of course, person willing to pay $10k/hr makes their own holes
21:50 asciilifeform picture a strike at a meat processing plant. suddenly the cattle can talk - and decide to 'join' the strikers.
21:50 asciilifeform 'we want our rights too'
21:50 BingoBoingo Thanks to risperidone, the pro-lactation anti-psychotic drug men wishing to break into traditionally feminine fields can now audition for the job of "wet nurse"
21:51 mircea_popescu so basically, a society of slaves constructed around "rights" rahter than freedom ends up a contest in contemptibility.
21:51 asciilifeform news at eleven.
21:51 mircea_popescu everyone wanting to whisper into the ear of State about their many and varied shortcomings.
21:51 jborkl Wtf? Dudes want to lactate?
21:52 BingoBoingo jborkl: Not want to, can.
21:52 asciilifeform jborkl: no - original question was about a set that wanted 'rights'
21:52 jborkl I drip enough white shit out the lower hole . I don't want anything coming out the top also
21:53 mircea_popescu http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow-lounge-main-forum/victimhood-olympics-modern-workplace-2153/
21:53 assbot The Victimhood Olympics of the Modern Workplace
21:53 mircea_popescu this is kinda funny, in that i had no fucking idea running a hepa filter in an open space can prevent allergic reactions.
21:53 jborkl I got a postcard from Tokyo today
21:54 jborkl Told me mtgox went bankrupt
21:54 mircea_popescu was it a good card ?
21:54 mircea_popescu sunset ? something ?
21:55 BingoBoingo Postcards are the best way to transmit pornography
21:57 jborkl It was all in Japanese except for the bankrupt part. Why didn't you guys tell me mtgox went bankrupt? I had to find out like this?
21:58 jborkl Fuck
21:58 jborkl :)
21:58 BingoBoingo !up jborkl
22:00 BingoBoingo jborkl: Well in a sane legal jurisdiction what you'd do is do through the motions of petitioning the trustee for discovery that any distinction between MtGox, Tibbane, and Karpales is fictitious and attach the debts and their repayment to his person.
22:02 jborkl I forgot to tell you I have a really strange sense of humor
22:02 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo his person is worth just about not enough to be worth pursuing.
22:02 BingoBoingo If this goes through Kraprales is forced to pursue various fraud and misrepresentation angles against Jed et al
22:02 jborkl ^true that mp
22:02 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: His person is the right build for rendering into Biodiesel
22:03 mircea_popescu incidentally, anyone wanna mpoe-pr on http://www.goingyourownway.com/ ?
22:03 assbot Going Your Own Way
22:03 mircea_popescu turns out this exercise in discussing with the silly has at least yielded some interesting results
22:03 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: What's the forum's point?
22:03 asciilifeform the landau film has precedent. when they filmed the infamous nazi atrocity pic 'come and see', they fired real bullets over the heads of the actors
22:03 mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea BingoBoingo. this is exploratory.
22:05 BingoBoingo Fucking my F.MPIF to non F.MPIF post ratio is getting to high. I'll blog the forum to learn its seekrits.
22:05 mircea_popescu ;;ud incel
22:05 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=incel | "Involuntary Celibate". A frustrated virgin who feels as if the world owes them sex. A self-described 'incel' is highly likely to blame their virginity on the other ...
22:05 mircea_popescu jesus english is turning into chinese
22:05 mircea_popescu a word for everything
22:05 mircea_popescu then make contractions out of expressions
22:05 BingoBoingo Ingsoc
22:05 mircea_popescu Post anything negative about the Admin of MGTOWForums (the forum that gave rise to this one).
22:06 mircea_popescu i have no idea wtf mgtowf was, but apparently there's drama to be had.
22:07 mircea_popescu Dear all,
22:07 mircea_popescu For 3 years I've worked to build up MGTOW Forums into a force to be reckoned with, but alas it has failed. It has failed because of the very reasons which brought down the previous MGTOW board: inexperienced idiots who were angry at not being able to get laid - betas, zetas, red pills and the rest of the rubbish.
22:07 mircea_popescu At MGTOW Forums, we spent years fighting such fools who were psychos, incels and who vocally supported other places, that I won't mention, over our own. Such people were against us yet we managed to beat them time and time again.
22:07 mircea_popescu wait. there is A LOT MORE dram
22:07 mircea_popescu a
22:08 mircea_popescu Living the Best Life: A big emphasis for us. Talk about: poker nights, video games, travel, lifting, books you're reading, that great anime you watched, sports you're doing, hobbies, philosophy, and on and on.
22:08 mircea_popescu ahgahaa o god.
22:08 mircea_popescu Game: This one sets us apart. Our view is that being MGTOW means downing the 'red pill' and understanding the nature of women. Once you do so, the rest is up to you. It's a perfectly valid option to sit it out, to “ghost” when it comes to women. And it's just as valid to "scratch that itch" with escorts, either at home or abroad. But for guys who, knowing what they know, want to use game to set up plates, date, est
22:08 mircea_popescu ablish/manage FWBs (friends with benefits), this sub-forum is for that.
22:08 mircea_popescu how the fuck are they going to survive and why would anyone seriously propose living without having meaningful relationships with women ?
22:08 BingoBoingo -"We're not obsessed with notch-count, we don't define our worth as men in terms of “success” or “approval” by women. Plenty of great men with actual value (AV) don't necessarily have sexual market value (SMV) and don't care. Being a better man happens in “Living the Best Life”."- << Sounds like a job for BtcAlpha
22:08 mircea_popescu what's this, like some sort of monastic orders ?
22:09 BingoBoingo Sounds like it.
22:09 mircea_popescu how does it sound like a job for btcalpha ?
22:09 mircea_popescu Action: Many of us were fumbling around in the blue-pill wilderness for decades. Why let another poor soul languish in the Matrix to go around getting rejected, orbit around a land whale for years, getting talked into a marriage he doesn't want or need, be brainwashed by feminism to think his purpose in life is to serve a woman or serve society by being a beta-male slave, having his surplus labor siphoned off by women,
22:09 mircea_popescu rugrats and Uncle Sam?
22:09 mircea_popescu wait, what the fuck is wrong with people being what they are ?
22:10 BingoBoingo Deadspin at its less bad >> http://deadspin.com/how-the-ufcs-biggest-show-of-the-year-turned-into-a-fia-1594743611
22:10 assbot How The UFC's Biggest Show Of The Year Turned Into A Fiasco
22:10 mircea_popescu i'll never understand my contemporaries ;/
22:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The Sexual market value bullshit.
22:11 mircea_popescu but you know the alpha is in reference to the finance greek
22:11 BingoBoingo Maybe mike_c can use this thing as an intern gauntlet
22:13 mircea_popescu "I’ve had sex with over 40 women in my past, during a time when there was no such thing as formalized Game."
22:13 asciilifeform phun phact: 'sexual market value' afaik, as a phrase, was first coughed up by dan mocsny.
22:13 mircea_popescu i never heard "over 40 women" before.
22:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: '3 ani experienta' ?
22:14 mircea_popescu sounds like it.
22:14 mircea_popescu i mean... too little to be a lot, too many to be a few, wtf qualification is this.
22:14 mircea_popescu "i've driven over six types of cars in my life".
22:14 mike_c BingoBoingo: War of Interns. i like it.
22:15 jborkl So is he banging grannys or 40 chicks
22:15 mircea_popescu you can probably fuck forty women by being an assistant on a porn set for i dunno, five weeks.
22:15 mircea_popescu "this one time in between jobs i ended up pushing around crates for this porn firm i nthe valley"
22:15 mircea_popescu "good for you, i worked at mcdonalds".
22:16 jborkl I had over 80 women but that was kinda gross and smelled like mothballs
22:21 mircea_popescu ;;ud SMP
22:21 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smp | SMP. Stands for "suck my pussy," derived from one of Sophitia's special grab move in Soul Calibur III, where she takes her opponent's head, puts it between her ...
22:21 mircea_popescu hm.
22:22 mircea_popescu manosphere ?
22:22 mircea_popescu jesus god this is like an entire thing isn;'t it.
22:23 mircea_popescu Try as we may, convincing a woman that her sexual peak lay actually between 18 and 25 is always an effort in debating denial. For all the self-convincing attempts to redefine sexual valuation to the contrary, SMV for women is ultimately decided by Men. Thus this bell curve is intended to represent the sexual value of women based on men’s metrics, not as women (by way of ceaseless social engineering) would like to def
22:23 mircea_popescu ine desirability.
22:24 mircea_popescu uh. this is fucking nonsense. for one, why 18, exactly ?! for the other... meh. it's a good time to start training a woman, but doubtless you'll get her anywhere pleasant before late twenties.
22:24 mircea_popescu s/doubtless/doubtful
22:26 benkay <mircea_popescu> benkay incidentally, where do you find them ? // for srs?
22:26 mircea_popescu benkay yea ?
22:26 benkay america
22:27 jborkl Women?
22:27 mircea_popescu benkay so are you going to end up like ostracized @work and eventually gasenwagen't ?
22:28 benkay nigga pleez
22:28 benkay i *am* the ostracizer.
22:28 mircea_popescu o ic.
22:28 benkay oh ho ho
22:29 benkay mircea_popescu going down the mra rathole
22:29 benkay lololol bitcoin drama pales
22:29 mircea_popescu benkay i had no idea teh 2000s pua lulz ended up quite so... berthy.
22:30 benkay berthy?
22:30 mircea_popescu well it's not ellaborate, not really. it's not deep, it's not complex. all it is is... berthy. as in wide.
22:30 benkay <mircea_popescu> how the fuck are they going to survive and why would anyone seriously propose living without having meaningful relationships with women ? // dunno man its a joy apparently few american guys en...joy
22:31 benkay hah okay i'm chuckled.
22:31 mircea_popescu anyway, used to lulz with the girls at this thing a decade ago. back then it was like a sort of you know, bambi
22:31 mircea_popescu sorta falling all over its own legs.
22:31 benkay derpaly derpaly doo
22:31 mircea_popescu go around do other things, turn back, now it's a hippo.
22:32 mircea_popescu a 4500 lb hippo
22:32 benkay hoompa loompa dorp
22:32 mircea_popescu aaaanyways.
22:32 benkay wait - that's all the log i get?
22:33 mircea_popescu i wonder if mozart being accused of being so pop-sounding by some goffy teenager in 1781 was nearly as amused
22:33 benkay i gotta find more and better i guess
22:34 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1xkwq6/mgtowforums_shut_down/
22:34 assbot MGTOWForums - Shut Down : TheRedPill
22:34 mircea_popescu this drama is almost btc-level good
22:35 benkay k i've got mircea_popescu distracted y'all
22:35 benkay let's nefarious a something
22:35 mircea_popescu ;;ud MGTOW
22:35 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MGTOW | Men/Man Going Their Own Way. MGTOW is basically the statement of self- ownership and saying that only you have the right to decide what your goals i...
22:36 mircea_popescu uh.
22:36 mircea_popescu this needs a 5 letter acronym nao.
22:38 benkay no it needs 5 thousand trilema words
22:38 mircea_popescu http://www.justfourguys.com/what-happens-when-you-date-an-angry-incel/
22:38 assbot What Happens When You Date An Angry Incel (Guest Post By Ms. Emma) | Just Four Guys
22:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00082191 = 4.1506 BTC [+]
22:39 mircea_popescu benkay what the fuck am i going to write about it ?
22:39 mircea_popescu pretty much only lol comes to mind.
22:39 mircea_popescu ;;ud fundie
22:39 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUNDIE | The brain of the "Christian" fundie, while generally underdeveloped and often host of outlandish delusions, has a large capacity for memorization of Bible verses ...
22:40 benkay hey danielpbarron that's you!
22:41 mircea_popescu i thought it was supposed to be someone with a trust fund
22:41 benkay i don't think urban dictionary populators have much contact with trust fund babie.
22:41 benkay babies*
22:42 mircea_popescu yeah, what people with money sit around on the internet all day.
22:43 benkay deliberately misconstrue harder
22:43 benkay what redditard has contact with actual capital.
22:44 mircea_popescu don't they go to pg's house once each year to eat ramen out of golden bowls ?
22:44 benkay they also practice celling sereal
22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00081733 = 6.2526 BTC [-] {2}
22:46 mircea_popescu someone should do a map of the internet. not the bullshit nobody cares about corps like google and pinterest,
22:46 mircea_popescu but the actual places where usg enters the system.
22:46 mircea_popescu count active "feminist" outlets and compare with "manosphere" for headcount.
22:47 mircea_popescu see if there's more tech geeks than body builders
22:47 mircea_popescu etc
22:48 mircea_popescu "Feminists like to use the presence of anger and sadness as a sign that the manosphere is a sad, terrible place." << lol yeah, because that's the feminist way : project patriarchy ideas opressing you outward. men should hate themselves for being angry just like we do!!11
22:50 thestringpuller mircea_popescu do you know about timelocks (in btc txs)?
22:50 mircea_popescu i wonder how many of these various and sundry internet groups are mefiant/angry with bitcoin for the yarvin reason : they poured their energy into a different obscure thing, and what is this bitcoin to succeed exactly the way they had hoped their thing to succeed!
22:51 mircea_popescu it's like knocking a woman up and moving to suburbia to have a perfect ballerina daughter only to end up with a braindamaged kid while the next door neighbour "gets" the ballerina.
22:51 mircea_popescu thestringpuller what specifically ?
22:52 mircea_popescu there's a nlock variable you can set in any tx
22:53 thestringpuller simple use case: trust fund. guy wants to give someone money in the future, but only wants that person to unlock that transaction at some future block height f
22:53 mircea_popescu im pretty sure this is possible.
22:53 thestringpuller so the benefactor signs tx with n lock variable
22:53 thestringpuller and then gives tx to the beneficiary
22:53 thestringpuller however who is to say benefactor isn't malicious
22:54 thestringpuller couldn't the benefactor double spend before block height f
22:54 thestringpuller thus beneficiary never receives his fund?
22:54 mircea_popescu nah, tx wouldn't be accepted.
22:54 thestringpuller but if the tx with the n-lock is never announced, how would any node know?
22:54 mircea_popescu "Feminism, on the other hand, has no problem using violence against their ideological enemies’ free speech, men who make lame jokes, men who approach a woman wrong, men who don’t look attractive the next morning, and so on. Of course, this is all violence done by the state, so it’s technically not violence."
22:54 mircea_popescu lol what sort of bs is this ? what, specifically, can "feminism" do ?
22:55 thestringpuller the benefactor could make a new tx without nlock and send the unspent outputs elsewhere no?
22:55 thestringpuller unless I'm missing something
22:55 mircea_popescu thestringpuller once the nlock tx is into the chain, the btc is on the dest address, and that address can't sign a standard tx until the nlock expires
22:56 mircea_popescu "The manosphere is not an exclusive club. It will have its dark corners and violent people, like any large movement that protests something. And sexually frustrated beta male rage could just be the dark side of masculinity. It is uncomfortable for MRAs, the way cuckoldry, hypergamy and false accusations are uncomfortable for feminists."
22:57 thestringpuller hmm? "nLockTime is a parameter that can be attached to a transaction, that mandates a minimal time (specified in either unix time or block height), that before this time, the transaction cannot be accepted into a block." << i thought this meant that the tx with the nlock cannot be accepted into the block chain until said block heigh has arrived/passed?
22:57 mircea_popescu how is feminism uncomfortable with any of those ?!
22:57 asciilifeform what, specifically, can "feminism" do << s/feminism/usg
22:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not nearly the same.
22:57 mircea_popescu not at all.
22:57 mircea_popescu actually, i don't know a single feminist, actual, honest fmeinist in a place of power within the usg. not one.
22:57 asciilifeform not entirely unlike the relation of, e.g. marxism to ussr
22:58 asciilifeform part of the official catechism
22:58 mircea_popescu thestringpuller hm.
22:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so name a marxist in power in the ussr.
22:58 mircea_popescu afaik the only one ended up with a pickaxe in his eye socket.
22:58 asciilifeform precisely this - you don't need one
22:58 asciilifeform hence axe.
22:58 mircea_popescu right. so feminism is about as powerful as astrology.
22:58 asciilifeform 'believers' tend to make a hash of things.
22:59 asciilifeform as a kind of decorative slipcover for policy that 'must happen anyway', it works just the same.
22:59 asciilifeform 'astrologist said now's a good time to shoot the prisoners.'
23:00 asciilifeform not that they'd have walked sans astrologist.
23:00 mircea_popescu thestringpuller actually lol, nlocktime only works until block 500mn.
23:02 mircea_popescu but yes, it seems you are right : one could doublespend a nlocktime tx after all, making it kinda useless in practice.
23:02 asciilifeform the original inspiration for the 'mra' folks was possibly the invalid 'community', where the nuttier ones actually thought that, e.g. being legless only sucks because of a 'conspiracy' of the two-legged
23:02 mircea_popescu this was a thing ?
23:02 asciilifeform still is
23:02 asciilifeform ;;google deaf community cochlear implants
23:02 gribble The Cochlear Implant Controversy - Daily Kos: <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/17/1256259/-The-Cochlear-Implant-Controversy>; Cochlear implants change deaf culture as importance of American ...: <http://www.dailyillini.com/features/article_5dff0baa-b080-11e2-afb5-001a4bcf6878.html>; Sound and Fury - Cochlear Implants - The Debate - PBS: (1 more message)
23:03 asciilifeform 'oh noez they're holocausting us by curing deafness'
23:03 mircea_popescu ahahaha what
23:04 mircea_popescu i guess this is perversely a sign of health.
23:04 mircea_popescu a sort of intellectual stotting behaviour, where any idiocy is argued in all seriousness.
23:04 asciilifeform i vaguely recall a documented case where deaf women sued for the right to 'in vitro' select deaf samples from a set of foeti
23:05 mircea_popescu uh
23:05 mircea_popescu did they win ?
23:05 asciilifeform this kind of thing, in other variants, is pretty big in usa. for instance, pretty much nobody births a down's syndrome case any more other than deliberately.
23:05 asciilifeform did they win << don't recall, couldn't be bothered
23:06 asciilifeform i like to refer to these folks as 'elphialtes's army'
23:07 asciilifeform specifically the fellow as portrayed in the film '300 spartans'
23:08 cazalla there are downie groups calling for downie rights too
23:08 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwK3VkbxLLU
23:08 assbot The Art of No Compromises - YouTube
23:08 cazalla cause downie birth rates dropped by something like 95% or something
23:08 mircea_popescu cazalla hopefully including the right to 4.0 gpa ?
23:11 asciilifeform many other cases of severely brainless are also created artificially - by rescuing 'super' premature infants, for example (at tremendous cost to the taxpayer, even before they enter the welfare system)
23:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's legitimate researchg tho.
23:12 cazalla as retards became an even smaller minority, this shit started popping up as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T549VoLca_Q
23:12 assbot Not Acceptable R-word PSA - YouTube
23:12 asciilifeform research is when there is something useful to be learned
23:12 mircea_popescu you only know that retrospectively.
23:12 mircea_popescu moon landing also tremendous cost to the taxpayer.
23:12 asciilifeform what herr mengele, or japanese 'unit 731' did - was considerably more valuable scientifically.
23:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13149 @ 0.00082303 = 10.822 BTC [+] {2}
23:12 mircea_popescu most expensive useless rocks ever.
23:12 mircea_popescu no way.
23:13 asciilifeform people still cite the german cold weather experiment data.
23:13 mircea_popescu wasn't run by mengele.
23:13 asciilifeform they usually pinch their nose in an obligatory gesture of kowtow to taboo, but they cite.
23:13 asciilifeform wasn't run by mengele >> true. but somehow he became 'poster boy'
23:13 mircea_popescu the dood was too busy doing fucktarded shit like random foreign body implants
23:13 mircea_popescu wel let
23:14 asciilifeform much as karpeles didn't personally handle every btc derpatron
23:14 mircea_popescu s not go by the posters.
23:14 asciilifeform but remains an emblem
23:14 mircea_popescu of mtgox tho., which he did run.
23:14 mircea_popescu not of say intersangro
23:15 asciilifeform but of btc-themed derpitude as a field, no ?
23:15 mircea_popescu nah
23:15 mircea_popescu taaki.
23:17 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> many other cases of severely brainless are also created artificially - by rescuing 'super' premature infants, for example (at tremendous cost to the taxpayer, even before they enter the welfare system) << Similar area, Ultra Geriatrics. How long can a nonegenarian fight a fungal UTI withou amphoterrible B? This happens prolly hundereds to thousands of times a year. If only people collated results.
23:17 asciilifeform you get figures like mengele (or a considerably more destructive, though lesser known, trofim lysenko) when barriers around some field are demolished en masse and field is thrown to the mercy of cranks (say, by revolution)
23:18 asciilifeform sometimes you get clever folks who finally get to 'do their thing'
23:18 asciilifeform more often you get lysenko, lepeshinskaya (exercise for the reader: who was she? why) and a thousand similar creatures
23:19 asciilifeform to continue the 'medical' theme - it's rather like an immunodeficient collapse of organism
23:20 asciilifeform suddenly fungi grow in places where no one has even conceived of before
23:20 BingoBoingo In the immunodefficient fungi are often a greater threat than bacteria
23:21 asciilifeform referring here to the appearance of powerful cranks
23:21 BingoBoingo Oh I'm just throwing out noise
23:21 BingoBoingo Trying to summon vexual
23:21 asciilifeform https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/CRNKRULE.HTM
23:21 assbot When the Cranks Rule
23:22 asciilifeform ^ prof. dutch on the subject
23:22 BingoBoingo Maybe vexual in ninjaspamzor may be aimed at each other some day
23:22 asciilifeform (same fellow who wrote 'why does anti-intellectualism exist')
23:22 asciilifeform ^ with the planar symmetry groups.
23:24 asciilifeform incidentally, (as school project!) i once went to the u.s. national library of medicine and had them dig up for me ancient, yellow copies of lysenko's complete works. and read them.
23:24 asciilifeform reads just like modern pheminist etc. crapola.
23:24 asciilifeform shannonizer output.
23:25 asciilifeform (evidently when these people had staff 'sovietologists' they dutifully preserved everything. even this used toilet paper.)
23:25 asciilifeform i still have the xeroxes. epic garbage.
23:26 BingoBoingo Oh, the things I xerox'd as an undergrad.
23:27 BingoBoingo Well, not xerox'd the copy machines charged. The printers didn't so... sheetfed scanner to giant tiff, portable hdd to computer lab
23:27 asciilifeform tiff << lol! '90s macs!?
23:27 BingoBoingo http://www.wired.com/2014/07/rising-use-of-encryption-foiled-the-cops-a-record-9-times-in-2013/
23:27 assbot Rising Use of Encryption Foiled the Cops a Record 9 Times in 2013 | Threat Level | WIRED
23:28 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: No, windows 2k was what the library computers with the scanners ran
23:29 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: my local uni library has finally surrendered and installed a proper - free of charge - book scanner
23:29 BingoBoingo Took ~2 years for the school to discover this exploit in the systen
23:29 asciilifeform because everybody owns a spy camera anyway
23:29 asciilifeform no more need for 'minox'
23:29 BingoBoingo lol
23:30 asciilifeform (a 'book scanner' has a v-shaped cavity, rather than flat glass)
23:31 BingoBoingo I've went to library school and never seen a proper one.
23:32 asciilifeform they used to be fairly expensive
23:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 71 @ 0.0141 = 1.0011 BTC [-]
23:33 asciilifeform generally found in places where no one counts the money, and everyone pisses on copyrasty laws - e.g. military labs.
23:34 BingoBoingo With my limited exposure to computing before college (Mac OS 6&7, Dos 3.3, Windows 3.1) The first year or so I thought print to Tiff was a neat workaround....
23:34 asciilifeform '$workaround is free if your time is worth nothing'
23:35 BingoBoingo EBSCO, JSTOR, and ProjectMuse at the time were the prefered sources for things to fill the binders.
23:35 BingoBoingo Cleansing papers maybe one binder has survived the purges.
23:36 BingoBoingo At some point I discovered print to .dvi and .ps saved so much
23:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.000817 = 6.0458 BTC [-]
23:38 BingoBoingo It was a real come to jesus moment when I realized disk is cheaper than shelves
23:39 asciilifeform Encryption Foiled the Cops << example of hierarchy of power in action. the local doughnut eaters don't get access to the manufacturer backdoor. unless it suits the crown for one reason or another.
23:39 asciilifeform just as they don't get aircraft carriers
23:40 asciilifeform or (until quite recently) - encrypted radios
23:41 asciilifeform being as the local stuffed uniforms are the first to 'go free agent' in any imperial collapse, this is sorta basic.
23:42 BingoBoingo Every now and then "people have problems" which seem to reinforce agency heirarchy
23:42 BingoBoingo ;;google Molly Young lawsuit Illinois
23:42 gribble Wrongful death lawsuit filed in Molly Young case - KFVS: <http://www.kfvs12.com/story/25915227/wrongful-death-lawsuit-filed-in-molly-young-case>; Molly Young's father files wrongful death lawsuit against Minton ...: <http://thesouthern.com/news/local/communities/carbondale/molly-young-s-father-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-minton/article_02c1e7ea-8689-5361-b62a- (1 more message)
23:43 asciilifeform "people have problems" which seem to reinforce agency heirarchy << interesting examples abound. consider the u.s. grunts who were disciplined for wearing privately purchased ballistic armour in iraq.
23:44 BingoBoingo Yeah, also safety agencies piss on safety agencies http://carbondaletimes.com/070314fire
23:44 assbot Fire Station No. 2 problems drag on | Carbondale Times
23:44 BingoBoingo "The sidewalk leading to the front main entrance has a running slope of 6.2 percent, rather than the maximum of 5 percent." << lolz
23:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 32 @ 0.03079906 = 0.9856 BTC [-]
23:45 asciilifeform gotta accommodate the legless firemen.
23:45 asciilifeform can't wait for the mandatory wheelchair ramps on heli-gunships
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 32 @ 0.016502 = 0.5281 BTC [-]
23:46 BingoBoingo That will be a sight to see
23:46 BingoBoingo Except for the blind spotters
23:46 asciilifeform laugh now - cry later. things that sail off the 'parody horizon' cliff tend to keep going. until they hit ground.
23:47 assbot Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ZSAS0R.txt )
23:47 asciilifeform !b 7
23:47 BingoBoingo laugh now - cry later << This is the title of a fairly recent Ice Cube album if I'm not mistaken
23:47 * asciilifeform has no idea what ^ is
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 17 @ 0.03079906 = 0.5236 BTC [-]
23:48 BingoBoingo Oh he's the original rebellious early 90's rapper to film early 00's family comedies
23:48 BingoBoingo ;;google are we there yet
23:48 gribble Are We There Yet? (2005) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368578/>; Are We There Yet? (TV Series 2010– ) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1544603/>; Are We There Yet? (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_We_There_Yet%3F_(TV_series)>
23:56 BingoBoingo %t
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