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00:00 phf witness the domain registrar game sci-hub has been playing for months now
00:06 weevlos fuck jews
00:06 weevlos 1488
00:06 weevlos wpww
00:10 danielpbarron !!v DA3A767B703CF9C1BB5CFBF05C27B1E79611010BB91EB376792989C74F85CC63
00:10 deedbot danielpbarron rated weevlos 1 << the weev, friend of Emily Youcis
00:11 danielpbarron !!pay MTW 0.054
00:11 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Q05Gw/?raw=true
00:13 danielpbarron !!v CB3094811C6BBD862407F9CD6DFD04EB80A8398265CC1992BC13971B23B2DF55
00:13 deedbot danielpbarron paid MTW 0.054
00:14 danielpbarron that's for l0de
00:14 danielpbarron who said MTW is his rep
00:17 trinque !!up weevlos
00:17 deedbot weevlos voiced for 30 minutes.
00:17 trinque what prevents you from simply declaring an IP ?
00:18 weevlos lack of memorability
00:18 trinque or hell, designate a bitcoin address, and issue transactions with four outputs, one per octet
00:21 trinque !!up NoMo
00:21 deedbot NoMo voiced for 30 minutes.
00:21 trinque hello, who are you?
00:21 NoMo me?
00:22 trinque you were upped.
00:23 trinque weevlos: tell you this, if the kids can't even introduce themselves properly memorizing an IP for the revolution is right out.
00:24 weevlos we may get there
00:24 weevlos but we want to be a normal website
00:25 weevlos with a persistent brand
00:25 weevlos people arent going to read off octets
00:25 weevlos to a stranger at a bar
00:25 weevlos this isnt about our consistent readers
00:25 weevlos this is about the rest of the internet easily being able to find us
00:26 weevlos if we are pulling crazy shit
00:26 weevlos that's what a domain name is for
00:26 trinque it's a problem, because on the other side, this "branding" shit is going in the gas chambers.
00:26 weevlos "daily stormer" is a very successful brand
00:26 trinque and doubly "I can't be bothered to know a few integers"
00:27 weevlos well, reality is
00:27 weevlos most people can't be expected to
00:27 weevlos they simply won't show up
00:31 danielpbarron !!up rainrawr
00:31 deedbot rainrawr voiced for 30 minutes.
00:31 rainrawr sweet
00:31 rainrawr thanks
00:31 danielpbarron http://p.bvulpes.com/
00:34 danielpbarron !!up StarmanDeluxe
00:34 deedbot StarmanDeluxe voiced for 30 minutes.
00:36 rainrawr !!reg http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OHjBd/?raw=true
00:37 rainrawr !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/OHjBd/?raw=true
00:37 deedbot 5048EC06FA366D1350F5DBDD55A423FD89074FC4 registered as rainrawr.
00:37 danielpbarron !!rate rainrawr 1 l0de fan
00:37 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kZlmp/?raw=true
00:38 rainrawr sup Techman
00:39 trinque !!up Techman
00:39 deedbot Techman voiced for 30 minutes.
00:41 danielpbarron !!v 7CE81FDF0E9BC0468B1338809F62480FD9D69D02EB8D96E981C95CE3EFD111FE
00:41 deedbot danielpbarron rated rainrawr 1 << l0de fan
00:41 rainrawr !!up
00:41 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hOGwx/?raw=true
00:42 NoMo let's all do acid and try to contact aliens
00:42 trinque !!down NoMo
00:42 trinque weevlos: what do you gain by making things easy for the stupid?
00:45 danielpbarron !!up toohigh
00:45 deedbot toohigh voiced for 30 minutes.
00:45 toohigh WHO'S TIRED OF WINNING?!!?
00:45 danielpbarron not me
00:46 danielpbarron !!up douchebag_
00:46 deedbot douchebag_ voiced for 30 minutes.
00:46 douchebag_ yes hello douchebag here
00:46 toohigh Yes hello caller, your on the AIR!
00:47 mircea_popescu heh what happened here then
00:47 douchebag_ yes hello
00:48 mircea_popescu oh that radio show thing ?
00:48 Techman Hello sir
00:48 trinque mircea_popescu: appears dpb crossed some streams!
00:48 mircea_popescu anything good so far ?
00:49 trinque eh nazis that can't and now I guess the kids are pulling out their dicks
00:49 mircea_popescu oh, 2 bitcent dick pix ? shall we do a today-only special ?
00:50 trinque loller
00:51 mircea_popescu douchebag_ toohigh NoMo rainrawr and whoever else, you seen http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ i expect ?
00:53 douchebag_ yes
00:53 mircea_popescu aite, so write 4b1e6528 on your dick, take a pic, make 2 bitcents.
00:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756146 << evident enough, admission or no admission.
00:55 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 18:08 asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave
00:56 toohigh mircea_popescu
00:56 mircea_popescu yes.
00:56 toohigh The name of my first boat was: "Titties Forever"
00:57 mircea_popescu what boat was it ?
00:57 douchebag_ kk writing it right now
00:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756156 << exactly as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752680 : being rich doesn't necessarioly promise much, mensa is fulla high iq losers and marinas/golf courses/boardrooms fulla high networth losers. HOWEVER! at the OTHER END... if you're poor you're dumb, no question.
00:58 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 18:29 asciilifeform: i gotta wonder how mircea_popescu squares pictures like this with 'net worth is proxy for intelligence', 'executives are skilled professionals', and similar
00:58 a111 Logged on 2017-12-17 09:22 mircea_popescu: at the dumb end of the spectrum, however.. o ya. iq 88 is very much ahead of iq 83, and painfully evidently so. under 100, maybe even 120 or so, it DOES put a very strict upper limit on what people can do.
00:58 Techman !!register https://pastebin.com/raw/HWQNnsqt
00:58 deedbot B346C2114AC08E757348AFC6FE75457D86B20A0D registered as Techman.
00:58 toohigh It was Custom Pontoon Boat with a system and stripper pole that was sold the second time it was ever taken out, dude was running down the dock and flagged it down and bought it on the spot
00:59 mircea_popescu toohigh turned a decent proffit on the deal then ?
00:59 danielpbarron !!rate Techman 1 l0de radio fan
00:59 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3emSY/?raw=true
00:59 mircea_popescu !!rate Techman 1 noob.
00:59 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rO2ku/?raw=true
01:00 douchebag_ kk i got dick pick
01:00 douchebag_ what do
01:01 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756167 << interestingly enough extant V can handle this diversion -- make each cut carry a single sig of the common trunk. then it'll split that way.
01:01 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 18:39 trinque: I will post an experimental patch soon, when fit for other hands
01:01 mircea_popescu douchebag_ post it.
01:01 douchebag_ kk 1 moment
01:01 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756170 << quite. phf has it.
01:01 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 18:41 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755738
01:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756173 << lol exactly.
01:02 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 18:44 trinque: asciilifeform: beauty of v is that these paths can diverge cleanly, operator can choose which lineage to press. patches appropriate for multiple lines, ground onto multiple lines.
01:03 toohigh mircea_popescu Used it as a down payment on a new cruiser ;)
01:03 mircea_popescu soon you'll outfleet the british royal navy.
01:04 douchebag_ https://i.imgur.com/eSBAlSd.jpg
01:04 douchebag_ 14ozpqsUeBc4AnmfxLmySGzNDbirzxZUVY
01:04 danielpbarron !!v B3EB2526A253B081C626D5FCE4B5C37658441839A565B5D6CB8322292957E1B8
01:04 deedbot danielpbarron rated Techman 1 << l0de radio fan
01:04 trinque chortle
01:04 pete_dushenski douchebag_: wd!
01:04 mircea_popescu douchebag_ your face's not in the shot.
01:04 Techman !!up
01:04 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qA911/?raw=true
01:05 douchebag_ oh shiet sec
01:05 trinque Techman: if not already voiced, you'll have to pm that.
01:06 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756189 << this is in my mind cca 1990s what lisp was FOR. a sort of php for fotran.
01:06 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 19:38 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1755450 << i've picked up a book in new orleans, “Symbolic computation : applications to scientific computing”, it's all macsyma and various sussman style scheme hacks for exploring dynamic systems, but an interesting trick that almost all the code uses, which i guess was sop in lisp world at some point, is to do visualization and control on a lisp machine, but do the heavy numeric simulations in fortran 77. the in
01:06 pete_dushenski Techman: is your name a reference to the techmen from asimov's foundation series, the ones who maintained old empire tech on a hereditary basis and had nfi how the "nucleics" shit actually worked ?
01:06 Techman neither
01:07 mircea_popescu Techman so what do you do ?
01:08 pete_dushenski !!balance
01:08 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wfwwC/?raw=true
01:10 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756230 << aww, why take it so.
01:10 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 21:45 mod6: i simply curse the day that i ever wrote the thing
01:11 danielpbarron !!up Techman
01:11 deedbot Techman voiced for 30 minutes.
01:11 danielpbarron !!up rainrawr
01:11 deedbot rainrawr voiced for 30 minutes.
01:12 rainrawr !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fIO5t/?raw=true
01:12 deedbot 5048EC06FA366D1350F5DBDD55A423FD89074FC4 is already registered as rainrawr.
01:12 rainrawr !!up
01:12 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bgCO5/?raw=true
01:12 mircea_popescu rainrawr now you decrypt that, and then !!v blabla
01:13 danielpbarron heh, i'm talking to her right now via voice
01:14 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756258 << that's the idea. you can attempt to press any of the extant items seen on phf's viewer, see if you get correct presses. http://btcbase.org/patches
01:14 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 01:59 esthlos: by selecting which keys are acceptable, we get a subsequence of acceptable diffs, which are then used to patch the source
01:14 toohigh mircea_popescu You on discord? We are talking to her now here: https://discord.gg/nVvgCfY
01:14 mircea_popescu i'm not on discord ; and who's her.
01:14 rainrawr http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/j3dbr/?raw=true
01:15 rainrawr mircea_popescu: hi im her
01:15 mircea_popescu lol hi her!
01:15 trinque put the thing after !!v her
01:15 rainrawr hi :D
01:15 mircea_popescu gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available << ahem
01:16 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756267 <<< quite, this.
01:16 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 02:03 asciilifeform: ( the linear flow display was also a mistake, it misleads people, does not actually help anybody. really ought to have exclusively tree-flow display, as mod6 had )
01:17 Techman !!up CD6F4FA2F97A2B9D4070FFAD151231E9B4572DC560DE64FF94EB9BC54CD35CCB
01:17 deedbot CD6F4FA2F97A2B9D4070FFAD151231E9B4572DC560DE64FF94EB9BC54CD35CCB voiced for 30 minutes.
01:17 mircea_popescu contrary to what mod6 thinks, his v was actually very much useful.
01:17 mircea_popescu Techman !!v not !!up
01:17 Techman oh
01:17 Techman !!v CD6F4FA2F97A2B9D4070FFAD151231E9B4572DC560DE64FF94EB9BC54CD35CCB
01:17 deedbot You are now voiced in #trilema
01:17 mircea_popescu !!v is a general "verify my pending command"
01:17 rainrawr mircea_popescu: yeah i fucked something up apparently
01:18 trinque d'aw, this perky name is toast
01:18 mircea_popescu does that still work btw ?
01:18 mircea_popescu !!down Techman
01:18 mircea_popescu aww!
01:18 mircea_popescu !!up Techman
01:18 deedbot Techman voiced for 30 minutes.
01:18 Techman lol
01:18 mircea_popescu sorry about that, i fucked it up for you ; do once more.
01:18 Techman My bad mp
01:18 mircea_popescu nono, i was just livetesting.
01:19 mircea_popescu !#s from:deedbot "you can't do that to"
01:19 a111 0 results for "from:deedbot \"you can't do that to\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Adeedbot%20%22you%20can%27t%20do%20that%20to%22
01:19 mircea_popescu old assbot behaviour.
01:21 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756273 << aha. correctly.
01:21 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 02:06 phf: that's what btcbase does™
01:21 trinque pretty sure the way it is now is lord can do anything to non-lord, or lord in bad standing.
01:21 mircea_popescu trinque yeah, it's ok as it stands.
01:21 mircea_popescu !!down trinque
01:21 deedbot mircea_popescu may not $down trinque.
01:21 mircea_popescu $down eh :D
01:22 trinque lol, stale response string
01:22 danielpbarron !!up douchebag_
01:22 deedbot douchebag_ voiced for 30 minutes.
01:22 mircea_popescu ahga. ancient.
01:23 mircea_popescu Techman anyway, i ended up testing bot behaviour, turns out it's correct. in the process devoiced you, but re-voice yourself in the same way and this time it'll stick until it disconnects. sorry for teh inconvenience
01:23 mircea_popescu but if one doesn't livetest on children who will one livetest on then!
01:23 Techman I don't even know that I did it wrong lol
01:23 mircea_popescu you did nothing wrong.
01:24 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756297 << lol did you call in ?
01:24 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 02:40 danielpbarron: yeah that was me
01:24 danielpbarron yes
01:25 mircea_popescu was it any good ?
01:25 danielpbarron apparently
01:25 mircea_popescu kek
01:25 douchebag_ !! register https://pastebin.com/raw/eMLMBYv0
01:25 douchebag_ !!register https://pastebin.com/raw/eMLMBYv0
01:25 deedbot EB901B424CBEE2900C2B09B5390F1C6A460DD6E7 registered as douchebag_.
01:25 mircea_popescu there you go.
01:25 danielpbarron !!rate douchebag_ 1 l0de fan
01:25 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YAyOL/?raw=true
01:26 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756300 << o you're paying 'em ? how much ?
01:26 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 02:40 danielpbarron: tell your boy l0de to get his key regged if he wants that free money
01:26 trinque looks like I got the auto-wallet-ulator working again.
01:26 mircea_popescu the what now ?
01:27 trinque the thing that makes these hordes new wallets when they register
01:27 mircea_popescu a. well that's good then.
01:27 mircea_popescu !!up l0de
01:27 deedbot l0de voiced for 30 minutes.
01:28 mircea_popescu o hey, are you the guy with the show then ?
01:28 danielpbarron !!up toohigh
01:28 deedbot toohigh voiced for 30 minutes.
01:28 toohigh !! register https://pastebin.com/CcxV5x1w
01:29 mircea_popescu nospace
01:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756317 << bwhahaha. this guy's sense of humour... it's like old spice.
01:29 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 03:20 phf: if only there was some way to capture a conversation so that it gets preserved for future readers
01:31 Techman pa pa pa pa pa power
01:31 toohigh !!register https://pastebin.com/raw/uicn6MtZ
01:31 deedbot EE47A2D680D980E66E44D25FAA1FE77FE82B0F99 registered as toohigh.
01:31 toohigh Real Talk
01:31 danielpbarron !!rate toohigh 1 l0de fan
01:31 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6sZ4H/?raw=true
01:31 toohigh prechiate!
01:32 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756370 << lol
01:32 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 04:47 weevlos: !!pay weevlos 0.1
01:32 mircea_popescu !!pay mircea_popescu over nine thousands plox.
01:32 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dusH6/?raw=true
01:33 mircea_popescu o ya, weevlos whatever happened to that alfred chick.
01:34 danielpbarron !!v B22E3853EB6F7ED28C208F3C73DB308016E5867A74625E3F38F99A2196C9BE21
01:34 deedbot danielpbarron rated douchebag_ 1 << l0de fan
01:35 toohigh #1 LODE FAN
01:35 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756403 << that's silly ; people have bookmarks, and otherwise little bits of paper. and phones. and so on. the problem of "memorability" is nil, stop advertising the enemy's tools. use nude ips, explain it's because domain names are made by jews to keep white people down, which isn't even all that false, and there you go.
01:35 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 05:18 weevlos: lack of memorability
01:35 mircea_popescu as memorable as the holocaust.
01:37 toohigh A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALL THOSE LOST IN THE GREAT MEME WAR 2015-2016.
01:37 mircea_popescu in other news nobody cares about (ha-ha), i put a girl on an anal hook for the first time in HER LIFE!!! which made her way too fucking tight ; we were going to hang out and watch a movie, but then i was like, "take half hour, lemme see what's going on in chan". and now... here we are, she's reading the log in the livingroom.
01:38 mircea_popescu the internet ruins lives.
01:38 toohigh Hats off to her for takin one for the team
01:38 mircea_popescu there's no team, it's just me.
01:39 mircea_popescu THERE IS NO YOU IN TEAM.
01:39 toohigh team as an oxymoron xD
01:40 toohigh Kratom saves
01:40 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756413 << not playing the game is the only way to win. be memorable through rejecting not through picking and choosing what parts of the idiocy to push.
01:40 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 05:25 weevlos: with a persistent brand
01:40 trinque !!up weevlos
01:40 deedbot weevlos voiced for 30 minutes.
01:41 mircea_popescu not "i'm so fucking radical i wear vintage tshirts" but "i'm so fucking radical I don't even wear anything". fuck tshirts and i don't care what ditty is on them.
01:42 toohigh T I T T I E S F O R E V E R
01:42 toohigh Try your hand at owning Strip Clubs and Adult Bookstore Chains ;)
01:42 toohigh 110
01:42 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756414 << the original slashdot.com was composed deliberately so that people COULD NOT read it to a dork. "oh man it's aiche te te pe colon slash slash slash dot dot com" "it doesn't work".
01:42 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 05:25 weevlos: people arent going to read off octets
01:42 mircea_popescu worked ok for them.
01:43 mircea_popescu toohigh strip clubs are a fucking terrible business. it's ~office management for people who get a lot of dermatitis.
01:44 toohigh It can be run as a Gentleman's Club with 100's of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones. (tm)
01:44 mircea_popescu i don't think you appreciate just how lazy even marginal girls are.
01:44 toohigh Should invest in Lysol lol
01:45 danielpbarron !!v FEFDFF454ACF461BCDAFFAD5EF64E6E3FF73AA12D485BCCA4406CC8628FD7609
01:45 deedbot danielpbarron rated toohigh 1 << l0de fan
01:45 toohigh There are two types of women who work at places like that: Ones who show up, do their best, and gtfo. The others show up just to see what they can get into.
01:46 mircea_popescu speaking of which, went with (same girl that ended up on the hook) to a coupla strip clubs here. holy shit you can't imafgine the horror. half dozen fat ugly mommy bloggers ; the poles were there, the stripper heels were on their feet, everyone SITTING. nobody dancing. no problem!
01:47 toohigh That's the worst
01:47 mircea_popescu for three to five dollars in cover you get to watch short people fumble about 1970s interiors.
01:47 trinque I assume what's meant by the "brand" is that they put ads on the thing.
01:47 toohigh All the old owners are retired or passed on, it's just not the same as the old days
01:47 trinque not gonna look that consumer spending horse in the mouth while it's giving the free time to shitpost on IRC
01:48 mircea_popescu trinque no. do you recall that discussion of "eulora" but really everything else, http://trilema.com/2016/what-lasts-forever/ ?
01:49 mircea_popescu the function of "it's a brand" here is to expand notional valuations into imaginary nonsense. "i am wasting time/resources and i'm not getting anything in return BUT THAT IS OK, because the imagined-castle-in-the-sky is growing!"
01:50 danielpbarron !!up r41n
01:50 deedbot r41n voiced for 30 minutes.
01:50 r41n hi
01:50 r41n im back
01:50 mircea_popescu toohigh this being costa rica might have something to do with it. last i heard say az was still doing it right.
01:50 mircea_popescu r41n make sure you control the key this time.
01:51 trinque hm. even worse; I could excuse the getting paid.
01:51 mircea_popescu that's the problem -- once the fountain of conceptual usg drunk from, weaning is VERY hard.
01:51 mircea_popescu we need a socialists anonymous thing.
01:52 mircea_popescu otherwise you keep ending up right back there on some "entirely new" path.
01:52 trinque really is insanity requiring a hard reset.
01:53 mircea_popescu first ground to stand on ; then reset. otherwise -- right back to "i only just"
01:54 mircea_popescu Techman say /query deedbot to open a pm session ; say !!up in there to it ; then return !!v the string.
01:54 mircea_popescu !!up StarmanDeluxe
01:54 deedbot StarmanDeluxe voiced for 30 minutes.
01:54 mircea_popescu !!up NoMo
01:54 deedbot NoMo voiced for 30 minutes.
01:54 mircea_popescu !!up KutmasteR
01:54 deedbot KutmasteR voiced for 30 minutes.
01:55 StarmanDeluxe Ahoy
01:55 mircea_popescu i wrote that kunt like 3x before i figured out why it dun complete....
01:55 mircea_popescu !!up cblgh
01:55 deedbot cblgh voiced for 30 minutes.
01:56 Techman Thanks
01:56 trinque I actually recall cblgh from another den.
01:56 mircea_popescu Techman wd.
01:56 mircea_popescu trinque oh ? who/s he ?
01:57 mircea_popescu !!up douchebag__
01:57 deedbot douchebag__ voiced for 30 minutes.
01:57 mircea_popescu got that pic ?
01:57 trinque iirc eurosomewhere dude that codes, ended up among a bunch of militantly meaningless portland dudes on irc.
01:57 douchebag__ ive been trying to verify this account, accidently provided wrong pgp to the last username
01:58 mircea_popescu heh
01:58 douchebag__ with deedbot
01:58 trinque you must re-register.
01:58 douchebag__ i did
01:58 mircea_popescu trinque talk about "octet quad too hard". check THIS shit out ; i expect qualification here actually exceeds cisco qual.
01:58 Techman mircea_popescu: l0de is more than likely asleep right now; his show ended a while ago
01:59 Techman mircea_popescu: wouldn't want you to think that he was ignoring you, etc.
01:59 mircea_popescu Techman there's a lot of interest in shortwave here, as per say http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22shortwave%22 ; i suspect we have a lot to talk about. but can be tomorrow or whatever, there's no rush.
02:01 trinque mircea_popescu: the shitposting tics imo leak from inner loop of proving they can do whatever they want. hard then to fall simple instructions; the static overwhelms.
02:02 trinque *follow
02:02 mircea_popescu trinque as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/#selection-39.50-45.12
02:03 trinque yessir
02:03 r41n !!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/W9tPH/?raw=true
02:03 deedbot 10E9967FDE69114DA2DDBAAE6194513F6DF00F69 registered as r41n.
02:04 mircea_popescu then alf is gonna wake up and be all "da fuck she cow pig indian candy had kittens!"
02:05 danielpbarron !!rate r41n 1 l0de fan
02:05 trinque wahaha
02:05 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zHDRL/?raw=true
02:05 r41n !!up
02:05 deedbot You may not $up yourself.
02:06 trinque this is great. deedbot's getting fuzzed
02:07 danielpbarron !!v 548F750A56F8883BC90057AD2C4A087007C38127BFC6CEAED5E759CA1BBD8C73
02:07 deedbot danielpbarron rated r41n 1 << l0de fan
02:07 r41n !!up
02:07 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lzF8D/?raw=true
02:07 douchebag__ h
02:08 r41n !!v 616BA24A0A5E87321CE0E48D7FA9D6E53E5DC3C816940585710EA28672904E77
02:08 deedbot You are now voiced in #trilema
02:08 danielpbarron !!rate douchebag__ 1 l0de fan
02:08 r41n I DID IT
02:08 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wkyc7/?raw=true
02:08 r41n mircea_popescu: i had to make a different nick but i got it!
02:08 trinque wd r41n
02:09 trinque are you the rawrchick?
02:11 danielpbarron !!v AC9575BA908EC36ACE1EC31EB2EAA3FED176A91DB31BBE30BD2BD6A539738E4C
02:11 deedbot danielpbarron rated douchebag__ 1 << l0de fan
02:11 r41n weevlos: why you fucking this up brah
02:11 r41n FUCKING WEEV
02:12 trinque danielpbarron: how far in was your call
02:15 trinque ah right at 9:50
02:16 danielpbarron right at the start
02:20 cazalla weevlos, nignogs with ghostgunners was some funny shit
02:21 pete_dushenski caz!
02:21 cazalla hey pete
02:21 pete_dushenski how goes ?
02:21 cazalla same old, kids doing my head in like usual
02:21 cazalla hows yours?
02:22 pete_dushenski a (giant) little chatterbox. he's doing well.
02:25 danielpbarron !!up toohigh
02:25 deedbot toohigh voiced for 30 minutes.
02:25 cazalla pete_dushenski, were you having another, or was that someone else?
02:26 toohigh President Dr. Donald J Trump is ushering in a new era of economic prosperity for the American Tax Paying Citizens.
02:26 pete_dushenski cazalla: i haven't publicly said one way or another, musta been someone else you're thinking of. wasn't ben_vulpes trying ?
02:27 cazalla seems like a bunch of rugrats abound
02:28 pete_dushenski must be all the optimism in the air
02:32 trinque lotta tight vocal chords on this youtube vid.
02:38 trinque the nazi faggot claims to have buds in hezbollah, because really, the most transgressive thing you can do is friend controversially on facebook.
02:41 trinque hadn't bothered to consider it, but this neonazis with citronella torches thing clicks right into place after suburban white niggers on the escalation game ratchet.
02:41 * trinque to bed, on that note
02:45 toohigh REAL NIGGAS ONLY
~ 38 minutes ~
03:24 mircea_popescu r41n wd.
03:25 mircea_popescu trinque citronella torches ?
03:28 r41n hi
03:28 r41n was just reading 4chan biz
03:28 r41n lul
03:29 mircea_popescu anything good ?
03:36 r41n some memes
03:36 r41n nothing too great
03:38 mircea_popescu meanwhile in hairy arms on the tit shelf, http://78.media.tumblr.com/b7ee036a69b3fe70e635fc1daeb48b68/tumblr_naodugI1CF1tvbvqfo1_400.gif
03:38 mircea_popescu an' with that ima see y'all tomorrow.
~ 2 hours 42 minutes ~
06:20 diana_coman for fun: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/21/eucrypt-correcting-mpi-implementation/#comment-1011
~ 2 hours 30 minutes ~
08:51 mircea_popescu diana_coman i like that the url has blame in it
08:52 shinohai Buena dias, mircea_popescu. Here's hoping there are no forgtten tailor visits this Friday! o/
08:52 mircea_popescu lol have you been neural-networked ?
08:53 diana_coman mircea_popescu, yeah, the url has blame in it; the text there has avoidance in it I'd say, lol
08:53 mircea_popescu anyway, the girlz be back, errything's back to normal ; where by normal we mean i pay no fucking attention and shit just keeps happening by itself around the house.
08:53 mircea_popescu i've been trying to get breadcrumbs on the floor to STAY THERE for years now.
08:54 diana_coman try them on the ceiling then? might stay THERE
08:54 mircea_popescu diana_coman hey, one step at a time! http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753228 etc
08:54 a111 Logged on 2017-12-18 02:55 asciilifeform: hey bureaucrat sees ~everythign~ as usg org chart, climbable, naturally has steps! itmust!!
08:55 mircea_popescu diana_coman lol
09:00 mircea_popescu in other thank you obamas, i can now buy 1kAmpere (crank) batteries for muh car. this means the damned thing can push out at the very least 14.5 * 1000 * 30 = 435kJoules over half a minute!
09:00 mircea_popescu if it weren't for usg spending billions of imaginary dollars for "electric cars"...
09:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lipo cell + cap iirc
09:01 mircea_popescu nope, this is straight battery. no cap.
09:01 asciilifeform nifty
09:01 mircea_popescu item itself actually holds 3-5x that, if you're voltage-agnostic.
09:03 asciilifeform pretty great for starting yer dirigible's 4 3kHp maybachs...
09:03 mircea_popescu AAAAND with a 4.4 kW powerplant... you really can run all the electronics you possibly could conceivably wish to have.
09:04 * asciilifeform slowly eats log, omfg the aol
09:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if it's a lipo tho, it's good for mebbe hundred cycles
09:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform coupla of the people might well have a clue.
09:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah. lead-acid.
09:05 asciilifeform uhhh
09:05 mircea_popescu I KNOW!
09:05 asciilifeform ~dozen then
09:05 mircea_popescu naaa.
09:05 * asciilifeform uses these here
09:05 mircea_popescu free replacement 3 year warranty, baby.
09:05 mircea_popescu AND it cost like a hundy, which means... where's that trilema with the bug ?
09:06 asciilifeform you mentioned cranking tho, as advertised application
09:06 asciilifeform that's a hint
09:06 asciilifeform they aren't, dollars to doughnuts, warrantied for deepcycling
09:06 mircea_popescu well, sparkgap, cranking, what the hell's the difference.
09:06 asciilifeform massive diff
09:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it doesn't deep cycle over that.
09:06 asciilifeform cranking is a few seconds, a few % discharge
09:07 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/entomologykos-4.jpg << here we go. bug buys you a battery!
09:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform 30 seconds by spec.
09:07 asciilifeform use in ups, is deepcycle, potentially 100% discharge
09:07 asciilifeform aaaaaa see.
09:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the application here was, "gee, how cheap is mobility!" ; but again : for a zek coin (as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752109 ) you can have 100 of these. serialize them, the half minute becomes eight hours.
09:08 a111 Logged on 2017-12-16 02:45 mircea_popescu: technically .5 btc is "more money than zek is pewrmitted to have" as it is.
09:08 mircea_popescu A SHIFT!
09:08 asciilifeform alltheelectronicsyouwish for 30sec...
09:08 mircea_popescu per cockroachcoin
09:09 asciilifeform i think 100 of these would fall through my floor
09:09 mircea_popescu nah, what, 5kgs each ? ~same as hosting a card trading party.
09:09 asciilifeform truck cells ( which is what these are ) also vent H2 when charging
09:09 shinohai boom
09:10 mircea_popescu speaking of which : nerdy ho took me to the nerd's mothership here ; it dun look much from rthe road, but inside : manga store, comicbook store, toy and figurine store, sushi plant, coffee house, BAR, and highschoolers.
09:10 mircea_popescu shares parking with a fucking office depot of all things.
09:10 mircea_popescu AAA+++ would be surprised again most unexpected development.
09:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is no disadvantage, we were making hydrogen bombs anyway rite ?
09:11 asciilifeform not in own submarine's battery deck, ideally
09:11 mircea_popescu steampunk is all about pipes.
09:11 asciilifeform ( usn lost a bunch to h2 pops, in ww2 )
09:12 shinohai OMG BCRASH!!!! Shit is down -36.53% this morning despite Roger's latest pump.
09:12 mircea_popescu i suppose i should put zek in the dictionary huh.
09:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform gimme the ru notation if oyu have a kbd ready ?
09:14 asciilifeform зек
09:14 mircea_popescu ty
09:14 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756403 << that's silly ; people have bookmarks, and otherwise little bits of paper. and phones. and so on. the problem of "memorability" is nil, stop advertising the enemy's tools. use nude ips, explain it's because domain names are made by jews to keep white people down, which isn't even all that false, and there you go. << Aha, seriously. How do you keep chanels open con las chicas
09:14 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 05:18 weevlos: lack of memorability
09:14 BingoBoingo sans numeros de telefonos y weird alt-irc's like Whatsapp?
09:14 asciilifeform originally abbrev , з/к
09:14 asciilifeform заключённый
09:16 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> in other thank you obamas, i can now buy 1kAmpere (crank) batteries for muh car. this means the damned thing can push out at the very least 14.5 * 1000 * 30 = 435kJoules over half a minute! << AHA, y las baterias por las motocicletas ahora muy pequena
09:16 mircea_popescu aha
09:17 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> use in ups, is deepcycle, potentially 100% discharge << No tiene un turbine por su UPS?
09:18 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756463 <<< How'd I miss this gem last night, coulda had this room fulla traps
09:18 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 05:49 mircea_popescu: oh, 2 bitcent dick pix ? shall we do a today-only special ?
09:18 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Algunas baterias de motocicleta aca son LiPo!
09:19 mircea_popescu yeah, lighter.
09:19 BingoBoingo Si
09:19 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/#selection-233.0-247.2 << done.
09:19 asciilifeform mucho dinero, BingoBoingo , y muere en 2-3 años
09:19 mircea_popescu comments/suggestions welcome.
09:20 BingoBoingo But first I still gotta learn to bicicleta, then quizas tengo una Honda Wave o Honda PCX en 2-3 anos
09:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform la mayoria de los motos mueren en 2-3 anos ; y con el motociclista + un amigo!
09:20 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo bmw!
09:20 mircea_popescu they invented teh fucken thing, and still own it.
09:20 mircea_popescu ducati can stuffit.
09:21 BingoBoingo BMW motocicleta demasiado alta para mi. No ergonomico
09:21 * shinohai thought of BingoBoingo when he saw this: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/tarnacion.jpg
09:21 shinohai dunno why
09:22 mircea_popescu according to cornmarketcap, bitcoin crash still work like more than a public servant monthly salary.
09:22 asciilifeform howsthat
09:23 mircea_popescu GS-1 makes 17 to 22k pa. 2140 is > that.
09:25 asciilifeform afaik those dun physically exist ( they start at iirc 5-7 in most ministries )
09:25 mircea_popescu hey, dead civ is reconstructed by the books.
09:25 shinohai I can't get enough of this Roger Ver ragequit video over "Bcash" xD
09:26 shinohai (For those that haven't seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI )
09:26 mircea_popescu can't be arsed to video. summary ?
09:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it'll take you A YEAR to make gs2, you know this ?
09:27 shinohai tl;dr he gets his buttons pushed because interviewer calls it "Bcash" instead of "Bitcoin Cash"
09:28 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
09:28 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11191.59, vol: 47229.49783609 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11657.0, vol: 150423.08301224 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11355.0, vol: 9530.65342584 | Volume-weighted last average: 11537.0127915
09:28 mircea_popescu o noes, are we poor now ?
09:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only promoted to gs2 if the mops kept in top working order, all halls swept, i suppose
09:29 BingoBoingo Quizas?
09:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform at that level... if not beaten senior mgmt head against wall for a year straight, i expect.
09:29 asciilifeform oheyheyheylbj, 'cheap' coinz!
09:31 asciilifeform iirc the coinola stolen by usg from btce et al, was scheduled for waterfall , so possibly it, nao.
09:31 mircea_popescu if the price wouldn't move how would teh excitable stay excited
09:32 BingoBoingo Aha, the context and the laughing!
09:35 BingoBoingo In other unconscious association... Montevideo department (department being akin to a province) is abreviated MO, which is Missouri's postal code. At least once a day mi cerebro thinks Uruguay is in Missouri.
09:35 mircea_popescu weather just about wet/balmy enough too eh
09:38 BingoBoingo Aha, the median summer temperatures and humidity are very similar, but the extremes encountered in the Middle west don't happen as routinely here
09:38 mircea_popescu ya
09:39 BingoBoingo Come winter the lack of extremes should be still more noticable? Only below 0C en la madrugada!
09:39 mircea_popescu no fucking way it gets to freezing there
09:41 BingoBoingo The locals insist it happens at least 4 or 5 days a year in the mornings
09:41 mircea_popescu i dunno...
09:41 shinohai I loved watching teh latino immigrants here a few weekends ago when it snowed. Most have never seen it, so they were all dressed up in layers of NorthFace coats and gloves.
09:42 BingoBoingo shinohai: You should have seen the Brasileros y Brasileras at the Hostel for the expocannabis when the cool night wind blew in. Coats, blankets, etc...
09:43 mircea_popescu it got windy here a week or two ago. maaaybe dropped as low as 15C briefly. o my teh shivers, teh sads.
09:43 mircea_popescu i'd be like "hey, this car got no AC ?" and people would just park on the side of the road, to stare. blinkers on, everything
09:43 BingoBoingo Hay mucho veinto aca esta semana. Y entonces hoy, mucho sol fuerte.
09:44 mircea_popescu supposedly that's the best way to sundry the gringo : cool wind and strong sun. he'll fry before he knows what boiled frogs are
09:44 shinohai I had some weird shit happen to me after my surgery, cold doesn't affect me like that anymore. I generally never wear more than tshort outside around the house.
09:44 shinohai *tshirt
09:45 * BingoBoingo still can't believe how delicious the tap water is here
09:45 mircea_popescu ya montevideo had great water.
09:46 BingoBoingo And the salus half water half jugo de manzana isn't bad either
09:50 BingoBoingo Anyways, the wind/sun combination necessitates mucha agua y mas sunscreen
09:52 BingoBoingo If I could have packed again I would have packed less clothing and more electronics.
09:55 * BingoBoingo probably ought to bake a blog post on the past week's learnings por otro gingos de la republica
09:55 shinohai But chinches LOVE electronics BingoBoingo .... would have been a pita to get them out.
09:55 mircea_popescu what could it possibru hurt
09:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "A bit of walking suggests this is because the locals tend to know very well where they get on and off the bus very well, but"
09:56 BingoBoingo shinohai: Only when they are powered up and on. No heat signature, no chinches.
09:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty fxd
09:58 mircea_popescu and the observation is indeed fine. VERY bus-bound culture in south and central america. between the strange "strong families" where you'll see batshit insanity like 20yo woiman OUT WITH HER MOTHER and, importantly, HIDING IN MOM SKIRTS, and the terrible eg signalling for cars everywhere etc, AND a very land-possessive mentality, most people will simply not go to any new place.
09:58 mircea_popescu if they know you there they'll come tro you, but self-power exploration is ~nil.
09:58 BingoBoingo AHA
09:58 mircea_popescu and the whole "danger" social discourse very much is an artefact of this.
09:59 mircea_popescu not to mention the PORTON!! everywhere. looks like they're preparing for imminent alien invasion, these fellows.
09:59 BingoBoingo I have heard much "don't go to ciudad vieja en la noche"
09:59 mircea_popescu imagine, i have girls going about half naked in stripper heels at like, 3am. scares the shit out of the locals for entirely imaginary reasons
10:00 BingoBoingo And what did I see? Idle young males! "OMG idle young males, maybe if I molestar them they just might be roused from idleness!"
10:00 mircea_popescu "oh, this is the bad part of town" "Why ?" "i just don't come here very often" "why not ?" "it's the bad part of town"
10:00 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo exactly.
10:01 mircea_popescu "dude... flock of seagulls wrecked into the sidewalk over there couldn't get it up if i paid him to."
10:02 shinohai Lessee, I've been here almost every day for the past ~3+ years and don't ever recall an extended server outage on irc, yet this alt-irc telegram I'm forced to use with the girls goes down at least twice monthly.
10:02 mircea_popescu there's this formative moment in every pornographer's life (or at least, every pornographer worth his salt's life) where he's driving around a partybus fulla naked sluts and tries to pick up jocks from the street to fuck 'em. except... can't. even if they get in, which is a 1:10 shot at best, they can't really get it up ; and if they do it lasts half a minute and happens in the camera-unfriendliest manner possible.
10:02 BingoBoingo In James Lafond presents St Louis, Missouri all the idle young males would have been darker and tried provoking me to action with their racial slurs. Here, idle means idle
10:02 mircea_popescu (which is another massive giveaway of "leaked" sex tapes. bitch, that's not how accidental filmed fucking looks like.)
10:03 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i suspect portion of james lafond presents james lafond might be dramatization for the screen.
10:04 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, sure. But I've met quite a few young abogados estadounidense who went drinking in St Louis and got quite the beating after responding to racial slurs in kind
10:04 mircea_popescu so did they respond to beating in kind ?
10:05 mircea_popescu this is how lower class makes friends, neh ? eternal and unmoved, first you cuss each other out, then you duke it out, then you're friends for life.
10:05 BingoBoingo Outnumbered and had the problem on having had the money for liquor,
10:05 mircea_popescu yeah, that numbers bs... it's sad, really.
10:05 BingoBoingo They went to law school, barriers of their minds, etc
10:06 * mircea_popescu personally spent half hour at age 15 trying to find the most effectual insults for this dude a mutual friend had just introduced ; we were best friends after that!
10:06 BingoBoingo Perhaps it was their first time getting punched?
10:07 mircea_popescu but in the usg sadlands... well... http://trilema.com/2011/are-you-a-muslim/#selection-115.0-115.526
10:07 mircea_popescu which is a damned shame.
10:07 * BingoBoingo will bake blog post after tarea
10:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i have nfi why ANYTHING ELSE is deemed virginity in males. this. this right here. bitch, take a punch now and again, it's good for you.
10:08 BingoBoingo It's the primary value of having brothers
10:08 mircea_popescu or friends.
10:08 mircea_popescu or you know, a town, a country.
10:09 BingoBoingo That too, but brothers prepares one for friends, prepares one for town, prepares one for country
10:10 mircea_popescu i guess so huh
10:12 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo o hey, so you got a local gf basically ?
10:13 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: So it appears
10:13 mircea_popescu cool deal.
10:13 BingoBoingo My spanish isn't quite good enough to be entirely sure
10:13 mircea_popescu nor most people's english, or w/e their mom spoke.
10:13 BingoBoingo AHa
10:14 BingoBoingo Anywas, it is good she is in Las Piedras and tiene trabajar, so I have time to get shit done
10:15 mircea_popescu very vaguely in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1756072 : holy shit nobody thought that getinfo should include A TIMESTAMP ? whatr sort of broken minds come up with this crap!
10:15 a111 Logged on 2017-12-21 17:38 mircea_popescu: anyway, continuing the trinque discussion, it seems entirely unavoidable that trb will become 3 things : a wallet node, optimized for pumping out local signed tx ; a block node, optimized for keeping the blockchain, getting blocks, no mempool nonsense ; and a spy node, optimized to keeping track of the lies and nonsense flowing through the relay network (mempool, timing nodes, what have you).
10:15 mircea_popescu and it's entirely symptomatic and representative. whole fucking steaming pile of shit was designed, or rather, "designed" by a bright idiot who was capable to compose an info screen without a timestamp on it.
10:17 mircea_popescu hole fucking thing EXISTS, in the first place, AS A HUMONGOUS AND HUMONGOUSLY EXPENSIVE CLOCK! but why bother.
10:26 shinohai What do yo say to the girl with 2 black eyes? Nothing, she already been told twice.
10:39 mircea_popescu reading http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756758 i was instantly reminded of http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117906
10:39 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 11:20 diana_coman: for fun: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/12/21/eucrypt-correcting-mpi-implementation/#comment-1011
10:39 mircea_popescu that's a spakin' model, innit!
10:39 * mircea_popescu is glad he put the time into it back then, because today couldn't be arsed.
10:48 diana_coman ahaha, I admit I wouldn't put the time into modelling it to that degree
10:49 mircea_popescu ikr?
10:49 mircea_popescu i'm a total waster.
10:49 mircea_popescu nevertheless ; it's a good model, and so there we go.
10:59 asciilifeform 'This bug has been with us since the version 0.0.0 of GnuPG' << lol!!
11:00 mircea_popescu i think PART of the problem is poor code-doodle separation.
11:01 mircea_popescu the fact that it was not used in mpi anything might be an indication orig author just included some notes for later and forgot to mark them for anyone else.
11:01 asciilifeform was used tho
11:01 asciilifeform and, as diana_coman describes, its brokenness artfully painted over
11:02 mircea_popescu where ?
11:03 asciilifeform grep for q = mpi_copy( nminus1 );
11:03 asciilifeform i.e. discussion of the 'paint'.
11:05 asciilifeform mpi_tdiv_q_2exp is in fact used in primegen.c , but in such a way that its brokenness doesn't affect the output , 'accidentally'
11:05 mircea_popescu it's used in key primality testing ; but not otherwise.
11:05 asciilifeform right
11:05 mircea_popescu right.
11:06 mircea_popescu i suppose my point is muchly weakened by the evident effort at a cover-up
11:06 mircea_popescu but still, in principle. somewhere else, in a galaxy far away...
11:06 asciilifeform that was asciilifeform's point. the 'mens rea' is screamingly there
11:06 asciilifeform not 'doodles', nope.
11:07 asciilifeform the doodles thing might apply to some of shitoshi's warcrimes. but not here.
11:08 mircea_popescu so fucking epic, "this was fixed four years ago so SIXTEEN YEARS of it being not fixed thereby went away"
11:08 mircea_popescu femthink, "i finally got a husband, so it dun matter i'm 48 anymore"
11:08 mircea_popescu JUST AS MARRIED AS ALL THE OTHERS
11:17 asciilifeform astonishing liquishit, and it takes quite a bit to astonish asciilifeform
11:17 asciilifeform complete with pile of c macros
11:18 asciilifeform ( i cut out 10 pounds for each 1 remaining, but naturally could not cut into the living meat , principle was 'what is actually called in gpg' )
~ 19 minutes ~
11:37 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756749 << you know, the 'ctrl-alt-right' version of the 'occupy wall street' hipsters. They go down to the $walmart and buy bakers dozen of those anti-mosquito 'tiki torches' people use at bbqs, then go $downtown and 'protest' something or other while calling themselves 'neo-nazis' or somesuch
11:37 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 08:25 mircea_popescu: trinque citronella torches ?
11:38 mircea_popescu but why the anti mosquito item ?
11:38 mircea_popescu oh wait, only accessible (at walmart, won't go to jail fgor using) yet still vaguely recognizable torch ersatz ?
11:39 lobbes Exactly
11:39 mircea_popescu christ on a fucking cracker!
11:40 mircea_popescu how about overturn police car, empty govt employee innards, replace skin with gasoline from tank, burn that ?
11:40 mircea_popescu skull torches!
11:41 lobbes That'd require crossing the threshold of doing something other than declaring "I am x"
11:41 mircea_popescu o right, little girls would have to cross into manhood ? ONOES
11:43 lobbes Oya, much safer to keep "controversial" facebook phriends from comfort of mom's basement (which, amusingly, not safe at all as Facebook is honeypot, but whatevs)
11:45 mircea_popescu in other notes to the self, I was recently looking desperately for that discussion of the static/dynamic infantile error, but gave up in frustration. neverhteless, here it is : http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-221.55-225.273
11:46 mircea_popescu "The infantile mind doesn't go away. It just withdraws."
~ 23 minutes ~
12:09 asciilifeform meanwhile, in goxologies, https://archive.is/fFman
12:11 asciilifeform from same rag, meanwhile, 'Warren Buffett's top lieutenant, Charlie Munger, is a bitcoin skeptic. Munger was asked for his views on cryptocurrencies during a University of Michigan's Ross School of Business event. "I think it is perfectly asinine to even pause to think about them," Munger said. "It's bad people, crazy bubble, bad idea, luring people into the concept of easy wealth without much insight or work. That's the last thing o
12:11 asciilifeform n Earth you should think about … There's just a whole lot of things that aren't going to work for you. Figure out what they are and avoid them like the plague. And one of them is bitcoin. … It is total insanity."'
12:11 asciilifeform didjaknow!!
12:12 asciilifeform and , on top of this ,
12:12 asciilifeform 'You know it is one thing to think gold has some marvelous store of value because man has no way of inventing more gold or getting it very easily, so it has the advantage of rarity. Believe me, man is capable of somehow creating more bitcoin. … They tell you there are rules and they can't do it. Don't believe them. When there is enough incentive, bad things will happen.'
12:13 asciilifeform ( sores, for the dedicated entomologist : https://archive.is/TMSQ3 )
12:17 mircea_popescu he'd better be.
12:17 asciilifeform hm?
12:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol why is cnn listing coinbase prices in 4 digits ?
12:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform charlie munger'd better be scared of bitcoin.
12:18 * mircea_popescu waves at weevlos
12:18 weevlos trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
12:18 weevlos mircea_popescu: emily youcis is working with sam hyde on an animated project
12:19 mircea_popescu weevlos that's fucking stupid, the media game. sooner or later you either become cnn or get bought by cnn. but humour me, how much does this "media publication" thing pay ?
12:19 asciilifeform !#s rezistenta prin cultura
12:19 a111 3 results for "rezistenta prin cultura", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rezistenta%20prin%20cultura
12:19 BingoBoingo weevlos: La gente normal esta aca. No esta aca, no gente normal.
12:19 weevlos it pays more than any job i've had since the feds showed up in my life
12:19 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "no es normal".
12:19 mircea_popescu weevlos will not be specific ?
12:19 weevlos it pays me a couple thousand dollars worth of monero per month
12:19 weevlos generally
12:19 BingoBoingo gracias
12:20 weevlos plus extra tips from readers and viewers
12:20 mircea_popescu !~ticker --market all
12:20 weevlos which is variable, the best month i think i did 6 BTC
12:20 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13251.09, vol: 52151.12940279 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12640.0, vol: 163425.22659539 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 12950.0, vol: 10389.209106 | Volume-weighted last average: 12795.2877691
12:21 weevlos generally it will be at least another thousand dollars ish
12:21 weevlos and i live in an area where the average salary is $170 a month, it is real money here
12:21 mircea_popescu weevlos suppose i pay you 12`795 in cash to a) ditch the "domain name" and use IP permanently ; replace whatever ads you have with trilema links and never EVER link anything from the usg empire again.
12:21 mircea_popescu and we can revisit this discussion in three months.
12:21 mircea_popescu how about that ?
12:21 weevlos 1) that's not my call to make, i am only one employee
12:22 asciilifeform oh here it begins...
12:22 weevlos 2) thats only close to a month of operations budget
12:22 mircea_popescu that's unfortunate. who owns the item then ?
12:22 BingoBoingo lol coffee meets battleship
12:22 weevlos andrew anglin
12:22 mircea_popescu so send him over, maybe we can work something out.
12:22 mircea_popescu the current "i'm trying to make a non-cnn cnn" thing is doomed to fail and in the process waste your lives.
12:22 weevlos maybe, we are having a lot of fun with it
12:23 weevlos and it pays bills in meantime
12:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform worst comes to worst, suddenly conde nast or w/e usg.microsoft in the space suddenly decides it always wanted to spend some paper millions.
12:24 asciilifeform for what do we need an n-th koch
12:24 mircea_popescu i have nfi.
12:24 asciilifeform imho plenty of kochs to go around.
12:24 shinohai http://i.4cdn.org/b/1513961913273.png <<< This hilariousness
12:25 asciilifeform dafuq is that , shinohai
12:25 mircea_popescu dun load.
12:26 shinohai It's some sort of segwit spam floating around chans .... says "Stop using non-segwit wallets"
12:26 mircea_popescu heh mkay.
12:26 shinohai Uploaded here: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/segwit.png
12:26 mircea_popescu let me guess, your not following usg.bitcoin "official" trunk makes charlie munger's wishful thinking that harder to "come true" ?
12:27 mircea_popescu lel. good thind 3addresses aren't accepted most places with actual money to spend.
12:28 shinohai Someone did a giveaway thread last night, another anon posted an addy - got bits sent - then rekt when he realized "I posted mah Bcash wallet"
12:29 mircea_popescu why ? can use same keys neh ?
12:31 shinohai Yeah, but derp was using blokechain webwallet, so not a real BTC client.
12:31 mircea_popescu ahaha
12:31 BingoBoingo lol
12:32 shinohai afaik you can sweep keys and even export from blockchain, but is pita. No easy way to export any keys from there.
12:33 mircea_popescu ya
12:40 shinohai I imagine the whole point of "difficult to export keyz" and "adding Bcrash and mETH support" is to help liberate derps from their real coin.
12:51 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/22/essential-survival-spanish-for-the-disoriented-gringo/ << Bingo Blog - Essential Survival Spanish For The Disoriented Gringo
~ 25 minutes ~
13:16 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo incistently lol
13:18 mircea_popescu anywya, como anda, que me dices, variation is available.
13:18 mircea_popescu occulude lmao
13:21 mircea_popescu !!up BigTexasBingo
13:21 deedbot BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
13:21 BigTexasBingo Gracias, will correct after getting some sun on my pasty self
13:21 mircea_popescu no rush
13:22 BigTexasBingo Por la chica.
13:24 BigTexasBingo Says she was robbed today getting off the bus. Will see how she plays this, if scammy direction there's ~1 million other datable girls within 40 km
13:25 BigTexasBingo Apparently a mundane bag snatching
13:26 BigTexasBingo Which nearly happened to me on day 2, so could be credible
13:32 shinohai BigTexasBingo: does Uruguay allow for concealed carry?
13:35 BigTexasBingo "allow" is a very flexible word here
13:35 BigTexasBingo Brb
13:47 asciilifeform !!up indiancandy1
13:47 deedbot indiancandy1 voiced for 30 minutes.
13:48 indiancandy1 where is shino
13:48 indiancandy1 thaks ascii
13:52 trinque yknow if you type the whole name, it highlights them even.
13:52 trinque better yet, type some, hit tab!
13:58 mircea_popescu in other lulz, did anyone know GS-* folk captive at work are stuck interneting via https://data.maryland.gov/browse ?
13:59 asciilifeform wassat
13:59 mircea_popescu (leaving aside how maryland.gov uses a cert that doesn't cover maryland.gov lol)
13:59 asciilifeform loox like a md item, naught to do with fed 'gs'
13:59 mircea_popescu i thought everyone around the dc cancer was a federal employee.
14:00 asciilifeform nope. for instance university plankton are stateemployees
14:00 mircea_popescu that must suck.
14:00 asciilifeform it sucketh mightily
14:01 asciilifeform ( though i suppose depends whom, tenured prof's feudal throne sucks , i suppose, least )
14:01 mircea_popescu do they even give out tenures anymore ?
14:01 mircea_popescu or is it by now entirely fossilized carrot of vhs-usa
14:03 BingoBoingo indiancandy1: Que tal?
14:03 indiancandy1 i think u should become a senator
14:03 indiancandy1 mp
14:03 indiancandy1 i think you would be a great leader
14:03 BingoBoingo Senator would be a demotion for mircea_popescu
14:03 trinque d'aww
14:03 indiancandy1 he cant run for president
14:03 indiancandy1 his not american
14:03 BingoBoingo President, also a demotion
14:04 indiancandy1 but i think he has the right personaloty
14:04 indiancandy1 personality
14:04 indiancandy1 or maybe he should turn romania to the new germany
14:04 indiancandy1 challenge yes
14:04 indiancandy1 but i belive you can do it
14:04 BingoBoingo Eh, president doesn't have much power. More effective to be anti-president. It's a resistance of the medium sort of thing
14:05 indiancandy1 build the economy of romania
14:05 indiancandy1 create a strong defense
14:05 indiancandy1 put us balkans on the map
14:05 indiancandy1 lol
14:05 indiancandy1 just a thought
14:05 indiancandy1 bingoboingo hello
14:06 indiancandy1 @bingoboingo sorry gia sou
14:06 BingoBoingo lol, todo bien
14:06 shinohai Oh hai indiancandy1
14:07 indiancandy1 are you american bingo
14:08 indiancandy1 shino u got time now?
14:08 shinohai Sure, sign back in as Sofia and we'll get you squared away.
14:08 indiancandy1 okay
14:09 mircea_popescu aaand in other hot chicks hardware, http://ucanr.edu/blogs/anrnews/index.cfm?tagname=google.org
14:09 BingoBoingo !~later tell indiancandy1 I am a poor refugee child
14:09 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
14:10 shinohai !!up sofiababy
14:10 deedbot sofiababy voiced for 30 minutes.
14:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hilariously, asciilifeform's been to the national '4h' hq
14:10 mircea_popescu anything good ?
14:10 asciilifeform ( there was a wholly unrelated event there , many many yrs ago )
14:10 BingoBoingo Ah, alt boyscouts
14:11 asciilifeform lotta pictures of 'prize' farm animals etc
14:11 asciilifeform on the walls.
14:11 asciilifeform very 'agronomist'-flavoured .
14:11 BingoBoingo They have a strong presence at every rural county fair
14:11 asciilifeform some of the oldest halls at uni of md had similar flavour, even smell, decour, etc. until recently torn down
14:13 sofiababy are you american bingo
14:13 BingoBoingo sofiababy: I am a refugee
14:13 sofiababy from?
14:13 BingoBoingo Estados Unidos
14:13 sofiababy where did you take refuge
14:14 BingoBoingo A paradise that Brazilians and other residents of vacation destinations vacation to
14:15 BingoBoingo Es muy tranquilo aca.
14:15 sofiababy my spanish is very bad im greek
14:15 BingoBoingo No mucho gringos aca.
14:15 BingoBoingo sofiababy: The only way to learn it is to use it.
14:15 sofiababy i agree well il learn spanish if you learn swahilli
14:16 BingoBoingo Who could I talk to in Swahili, and who said I knew spanish?
14:16 sofiababy i speak swahili
14:16 BingoBoingo With whom?
14:16 sofiababy i grew up in africa
14:17 BingoBoingo When's the last time you spoke swahili?
14:17 sofiababy living in london i dont speak it anymore no one to speak wit it
14:17 mircea_popescu man this is getting tedious.
14:17 mircea_popescu !!down sofiababy
14:17 asciilifeform aaah
14:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757073 << in living memory it's been a rarity. approx as many tenures issued , per yr, as senatorships
14:17 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 19:01 mircea_popescu: do they even give out tenures anymore ?
14:18 mircea_popescu good thing nobody told the subretard kids, they still chase it as a life choice.
14:18 asciilifeform ~same odds as in pro sport
14:18 mircea_popescu "what's worse than being really really dumb ? being a really really smart american."
14:18 asciilifeform and there's no shortage of would-be footballists
14:21 BingoBoingo Eh, failed footballist usually at least good for work in the trades
14:21 BingoBoingo failed academist good for ???
14:21 asciilifeform and failed tenurist... well, depending on what kind.
14:21 mircea_popescu generally they end up cloggiong the start-up "market"
14:21 asciilifeform naaah
14:21 asciilifeform those want youngsters.
14:22 * mircea_popescu has observed this, 3 idiots around a table, "hey, we were educated at $ivy-league, we should be able to come up with something".
14:22 asciilifeform ( sometimes yes, end up in sv, but as active perpetrators of scamola, rather than foot-soldiers )
14:22 mircea_popescu you think of sv in terms of what the andressen-graham-etc scammers ADVERTISE
14:22 mircea_popescu not in the sense of what is.
14:26 mircea_popescu what is, very much deadbeat 30yo+ couldn't make tenure, by bulk. a case of "your friennd wioth blood sweart and tears" nonsense.
14:28 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/#selection-99.0-99.63 sorta deal. it's very fundamental this, "they told us this is the premiere science and engineering place IN THE WORLD!!! how come we can't compete with an average teenager ?"
14:28 mircea_popescu similarily and in the same vein, most waitresses in LA planning their acting career are neither hot nor young.
14:29 BingoBoingo Very much this
14:29 BingoBoingo Startup and acting career planning tend to happen after the possibility of fun has burnt up
14:30 mircea_popescu by mass, people "with an idea" and "a team" looking "for venture capital" are neither smart nor young nor actually part of a team or sitting on an idea nor anything else. it's a popular activity, so they're by and large ~= man on the street.
14:33 r41n is it time to sell bch?
14:33 r41n i think im going to wait until 2018
14:33 r41n since its only a few days away
14:33 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
14:33 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13200.19, vol: 52635.54178735 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12906.0, vol: 165145.17139515 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13437.9, vol: 10493.4662906 | Volume-weighted last average: 12998.2851845
14:34 BingoBoingo r41n: There are two kinds of surprises. What and When.
14:34 r41n morning mircea_popescu
14:34 r41n BingoBoingo: i was thinking turning it into usd but if i turn it into btc i guess it doesnt matter
14:35 BingoBoingo r41n: Aha, that's how you leverage what to hedge against when.
14:35 r41n i have a few different coins, but i just got into cryto this year
14:35 r41n i was mad that i didnt get into btc when it was 25 cents or mine it, but once it started getting up to like $400 i decided it was time to get over that stupid shit
14:36 BingoBoingo The only thing that could be too conveient is hitting 100,000 too soon
14:36 asciilifeform lol apparently asciilifeform's neighbour od'd
14:36 BingoBoingo *too inconvenient
14:36 trinque congrats asciilifeform !
14:36 asciilifeform cops , ceremonies, whole orchestra
14:36 trinque maybe better neighbor next time.
14:36 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: AHA. Another thing not missed
14:37 asciilifeform hey it ain't my problem...
14:37 BingoBoingo It could be your problem if the next one isn't found before they smell
14:40 asciilifeform oh hm loox like it was ~guest~ of neighbour
14:41 r41n this chan is p much 100% btc right?
14:41 BingoBoingo r41n: Depends on what you are taking percent of
14:41 asciilifeform r41n: nope, it's about noncommutative algebras, btc is 3 doors down
14:43 BingoBoingo r41n: Quien es su padre y Que lo hacer El?
14:45 r41n BingoBoingo: idk never met him
14:45 r41n i was rasied by an engineer though
14:45 r41n i only ask bc i have a few shitcoins
14:45 BingoBoingo Ah, smart man su padre
14:45 r41n me or who raised me?
14:46 mircea_popescu trinque it is rare that od'ing neighbour is replaced with improved version.
14:46 BingoBoingo r41n: It rarely hurts in a meaningful way to unload shitcoins for whatever bitcoin can be had
14:46 mircea_popescu r41n http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736549
14:46 a111 Logged on 2017-11-12 16:48 mircea_popescu: well, reading through what ? #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, a terrorist organisation dedicated to the dissolution of all fiat sovereigns and the permanent barring of such nonsense in the future.
14:48 r41n mircea_popescu: right on
14:49 r41n BingoBoingo: actually someone was pushing eth on me, so far its been a solid investment, i tired a few others, wish i had kept it all in btc now
14:49 r41n however what i have in shitcoins isnt enough to bother to exchange for me rn honestly
14:50 r41n now does seem like the time to invest more into btc though
14:51 mircea_popescu do you work ?
14:52 r41n yes
14:52 mircea_popescu doing what ?
14:52 r41n it technician
14:53 mircea_popescu like laying utp cable and shit ?
14:53 r41n no, i work for a small company, i make sure everyone's shit is running
14:53 mircea_popescu a
14:53 r41n i write policies
14:53 r41n dabble into our infrastructure a bit
14:53 r41n i do a lot of random things
14:54 r41n small company = get a lot of random shit put on your plate
14:56 r41n i like it though, everyone i work with is cool
15:04 BingoBoingo In other death throes: "In its latest attempt to rejoin the rest of us in the Tinder era, dating site OkCupid is getting rid of usernames. That’s not shocking at a time when online anonymity isn’t just an occasional annoyance but a legitimate threat to democracy, but it is curious in one way: In its blog post announcing the change, OkCupid seemed to go out of its way to mock its own users."
15:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: sores?
15:14 mircea_popescu r41n so how did you avoid pantsuit trap ?
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15:34 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/datamarylandgov/ << Trilema - data.maryland.gov
15:44 mod6 weird
15:50 asciilifeform holyfuq there's several MB (!!) of js in'ere
15:51 asciilifeform betcha there's a miner, dropped in by conniving chair-warmer
15:51 asciilifeform ( why use ~this~ type of delivery, i cannot say )
15:51 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756696 sort of reminds me of this guy at burning man, he was a chubby dude, running around completely naked, probably rolling hard, telling everyone how "oh my god, i can do anything i want!!1". the average reaction was, that's good, honey, but be a dear and keep your ballsack away from my face, there you go
15:51 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 07:01 trinque: mircea_popescu: the shitposting tics imo leak from inner loop of proving they can do whatever they want. hard then to fall simple instructions; the static overwhelms.
15:59 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756759 << the terminology comes from the name of the git command, which annotates each line with it's source commit. naturally there's also a vocal minority arguing for the command to be renamed
15:59 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 13:51 mircea_popescu: diana_coman i like that the url has blame in it
16:09 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756823 << abbrev has a funny history: "заключенный красноармеец" because of early soviet labour army experiments, later renamed to "заключенный каналоармеец", i.e. builder of беломорканал, to make it more politically correct. initially the abbrev had implications of forced labour specifically, but only later was generally applied to all prisoners. (probably bec
16:09 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 14:14 asciilifeform: originally abbrev , з/к
16:09 phf ause forced labour became pervasive during stalin)
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16:35 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757027 << why does it have a picture of varg vikernes?
16:35 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 17:24 shinohai: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1513961913273.png <<< This hilariousness
16:37 shinohai I suppose "stop using non-segwit wallets or I'll burn your church down"
16:40 phf aah, i get it
16:41 Techman Phew Bitcoin going back up
16:49 * shinohai waves at mod6
16:50 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: sores? << WaPo
16:50 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
16:50 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14422.39, vol: 54932.64668411 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 13690.0, vol: 170341.62621276 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14385.2, vol: 10663.6731266 | Volume-weighted last average: 13891.9408385
~ 19 minutes ~
17:10 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757221 << dunforget... забайкальский комсомолец !
17:10 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 21:09 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756823 << abbrev has a funny history: "заключенный красноармеец" because of early soviet labour army experiments, later renamed to "заключенный каналоармеец", i.e. builder of беломорканал, to make it more politically correct. initially the abbrev had implications of forced labour specifically, but only later was generally applied to all prisoners. (probably bec
~ 20 minutes ~
17:31 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757215 Then there is when the whole premise of you coin is this type of spamola >>> http://archive.is/lOy8f
17:31 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 20:51 asciilifeform: betcha there's a miner, dropped in by conniving chair-warmer
17:40 mircea_popescu danielpbarron your memorabilitiem was sent earlier.
17:45 mod6 how goes shinohai ?
17:46 shinohai Good here, rainy evening + hot tea and reading. You?
17:49 mod6 not much. lookin at v stuffs
17:49 * asciilifeform working on unexpectedly massive ffa-series piece
17:49 shinohai Cool, feel free to otr me if you need another pair of eyes to test stuff this eve/weekend.
17:50 mod6 thanks shinohai
17:52 shinohai np anytime!
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18:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757216 << it's the question though, i don't see any sort of self-delusion path that'd incentivize the behaviour. quo fucking prodest ?
18:22 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 20:51 asciilifeform: ( why use ~this~ type of delivery, i cannot say )
18:23 * asciilifeform still can't think of anything like a hypothesis for this
18:23 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757217 << amusingly, there was an always-naked, almost-spherical, older dude at bsas bdsm club. harmless, really, just wanted to spectate from a corner and jack off now and again
18:23 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 20:51 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756696 sort of reminds me of this guy at burning man, he was a chubby dude, running around completely naked, probably rolling hard, telling everyone how "oh my god, i can do anything i want!!1". the average reaction was, that's good, honey, but be a dear and keep your ballsack away from my face, there you go
18:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the null hypothesis being, i guess, that by now it's 100% falsified.
18:25 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757219 << no, i know. it's just... funny ; they thought it was a joke.
18:25 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 20:59 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756759 << the terminology comes from the name of the git command, which annotates each line with it's source commit. naturally there's also a vocal minority arguing for the command to be renamed
18:27 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757228 << long term it's inevitable.
18:27 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 21:41 Techman: Phew Bitcoin going back up
~ 24 minutes ~
18:51 mircea_popescu !#s "micon"
18:51 a111 339 results for "\"micon\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22micon%22
18:51 mircea_popescu dude what ever happened to this other roger ver ?
18:52 mircea_popescu iirc was the bigger one back when
18:52 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/ho-tel/ << Trilema - Ho-tel
18:52 shinohai !!up joecool
18:52 deedbot joecool voiced for 30 minutes.
18:54 joecool hey
18:54 joecool any way i can have my decrypt subkey changed on the bot?
18:54 joecool that or sign a message instead like i do for gribble
18:55 shinohai Will have to ask trinque when he is available joecool
18:55 mircea_popescu you can change it if you still control it yes.
18:56 joecool mircea_popescu: I do, it's in another physical location
18:57 mircea_popescu i dun recall what the procedure is, does it let you !!register the new one ? (as in, spits out a v string ?)
18:57 joecool i'll have to check it in a couple days when i can get the other key out of storage
18:58 joecool unless being able to sign with my primary key is enough
18:59 mircea_popescu what is primary key here ?
19:01 joecool F495E1D1
19:01 mircea_popescu !!key joecool
19:01 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/D7570DDF7F8527E085A6CBA44A169504F495E1D1.asc
19:01 mircea_popescu so you can sign with it but not decrypt ?!
19:02 joecool correct, for whatever reason this smartcard would not allow me to import my other subkeys
19:02 joecool so i have two encryption subkeys on my uid
19:03 mircea_popescu i c. will want to hear what trinque says on this.
19:04 joecool in gribble's case i have the choice between eauth/everify (requires that I decrypt) and auth/verify (requires signing)
19:05 mircea_popescu aha
19:13 shinohai Ah ty mircea_popescu ... slowly making these linguistical connections.
19:13 mircea_popescu :p
19:13 shinohai It warms my heart then to know you are who you are, and likely are shocking their puritan sensibilities.
19:14 shinohai iffn they had any xD
19:14 mircea_popescu whose ?
19:15 shinohai "some antecessor was a priest"
19:22 shinohai !!up douchebag__
19:22 deedbot douchebag__ voiced for 30 minutes.
19:22 douchebag__ h
19:23 mircea_popescu eh, i'm sure he'll be fine. eastern church a lot less hysterical, and besides, what's the big deal ? female slavery was the tradition anyway.
19:23 mircea_popescu as per thomas, i'll repent later when it costs me nothing anyway.
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19:49 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
19:49 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 13750.0, vol: 57572.58293619 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 12950.0, vol: 178993.591425 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 13810.8, vol: 11013.9840011 | Volume-weighted last average: 13174.326958
19:49 BingoBoingo the thrashing
20:00 shinohai aha it always seemed to me the Eastern tradition had a more acute grasp of the human condition.
20:09 mircea_popescu in other news, woody allen is like the WORST diletante moviemaker ever.
20:09 mircea_popescu who the fuck thought this schmuck may be permitted to waste the celluloid ?
20:14 BingoBoingo Pedophiles thought?
20:19 mircea_popescu what, cuz he fucked that ugly azn kid his dumb wife imported for the purpose ?
20:19 mircea_popescu pedophilia should not imply bad taste.
20:19 BingoBoingo Not him, his funders.
20:20 mircea_popescu i thought the state of new york/federal budget were mostly funding his flailing.
20:20 mircea_popescu oh.
20:20 BingoBoingo Well yeah, funding him makes them respectable
20:20 mircea_popescu i see.
20:20 BingoBoingo Hay Clintons en Nuevo York!
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20:41 shinohai What happened to indiancandy, in here offering nigger language lessons.
20:48 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-167.163-167.231 basically.
20:53 trinque !!up joecool
20:53 deedbot joecool voiced for 30 minutes.
20:54 joecool Hey, I’ll be back in a little bit but you probably saw the log
20:55 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757276 << kinda iffy on how to handle this. if I understand, you've got one subkey with you; the default deedbot's gpg wants to use is not with you.
20:55 a111 Logged on 2017-12-23 00:02 joecool: correct, for whatever reason this smartcard would not allow me to import my other subkeys
20:55 trinque in the past I have only ever made *any* changes to the deedbot keychain if the person can prove control of both keys, old and new.
20:56 trinque my preference is to not end up with some sort of complex "policy" around how deedbot should interact with gpg.
21:07 shinohai Is lamport parachute accepted method to you trinque ?
21:10 shinohai ( otherwise shinohai does not know for what purpose this exercise was done! )
21:16 trinque !!up BigTexasBingo
21:16 deedbot BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
21:16 BigTexasBingo In other updates. Chica not requesting an assistance related to the bag snatching, but wants to cook dinner. Uruguay, fuck yeah!
21:18 trinque shinohai: whatever ends up being ok, the ok list needs to get defined and permanently bound.
21:18 shinohai true
21:18 trinque I've helped people work around the gpg idiocy in the past (expiration dates) because.. gpg idiocy.
21:19 BigTexasBingo It also matters what key signed the parachute
21:19 shinohai no need for bickering VIII: The Kochaclypse
21:19 shinohai *bickening
21:20 trinque just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die"
21:21 trinque it's a rot that flows from relying on gpg, and I've thus far considered that tightening around asciilifeform's P is the appropriate time for it.
21:22 BigTexasBingo From gpg from gribble auth, from a whole lot of accumulated trash
21:22 BigTexasBingo Brb, done hacer pupu
21:32 trinque anyhow, there's no signing auth mechanism, and I don't want to feature creep the thing. I will however change a key for anybody that demonstrates control of both.
21:33 shinohai feature creep kill gribble so yeah
21:38 trinque the relationship to the wallet is also important to consider. wallet and deedbot do not share state, beyond deedbot initially communicating a (key, nick) pair to wallet. at that time, of course, the wallet is empty.
21:39 trinque "update" is always way more dangerous than "insert" eh?
~ 26 minutes ~
22:05 shinohai to me beauty of your lispbot framework, its easier to keep things contained. i admit has been a bit daunting so far attempting to port all this crap from python.
22:05 shinohai ihavenoideawhatimdoing.exe
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22:37 shinohai http://archive.is/36sPq << Shall we send conbase http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/ ?
~ 16 minutes ~
22:53 asciilifeform speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757328 , today's ffa-series item will appear tomorrow, apparently was too big a bite for asciilifeform's mere 1wk
22:53 a111 Logged on 2017-12-23 02:21 trinque: it's a rot that flows from relying on gpg, and I've thus far considered that tightening around asciilifeform's P is the appropriate time for it.
22:54 asciilifeform ( it will be obvious to the reader, why. but i'll keep it a fun surprise )
22:57 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757327 << the important bit ( and iirc i emphasized this in the lamport piece ) is to agree IN ADVANCE
22:57 a111 Logged on 2017-12-23 02:20 trinque: just pointing out that I might be corrupting the youfs by not taking a firmer line on "put a sane single key into deedbot and always have it, or proceed by the *only* mechanism to change key, or die"
22:57 asciilifeform otherwise you will have no end of folx begging for 'just one' exception , and in the end devolve to socially-engineerable usgism
22:57 trinque indeed.
22:59 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757275 << iirc gpg actually defaults to generating 2 moduli, sign-only an' decrypt-only
22:59 a111 Logged on 2017-12-23 00:01 mircea_popescu: so you can sign with it but not decrypt ?!
22:59 asciilifeform which is monstrously retarded, but koch did not ask me, lol
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23:39 trinque asciilifeform: you didn't do anything other than remove the gcc-5.x step in my recipe, and worked?
23:39 trinque I just ran over here, build craps out of gcc-4 with "cannot create executables"
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23:59 asciilifeform trinque: i must note, my gentoo is ordinary, rather than musltronic
23:59 asciilifeform ( recipe closer to danielpbarron's )
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