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01:24 mats https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sbhagava/papers/face-rec-ccs16.pdf
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07:49 trinque phf: could I get a URL endpoint on btcbase.org/log which redirects to the first line spoken by a nick?
07:53 trinque not urgent; I recall you're sick.
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08:20 thestringpuller mpex proxies rotating? >> http://archive.is/HYDXX << via link from qntra.net
08:21 shinohai 'tis in the logs
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08:47 thestringpuller thx
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09:38 mircea_popescu and in random fuck this shit : if you're downloading a bunch of fonts and end up with a humongo pile of spurious folders because hey, people are special, the pill is find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I file mv --backup=numbered file . (followed, probably, by for file in *; do mv "$file" `echo $file | tr ' ' '_'` ; done because special people are THAT FUCKING SPECIAL)
09:39 mircea_popescu my question at this point would be, PPL! Y SO SPECIAL!
09:46 asciilifeform speaking of the Profoundly Speshul: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q4/490
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09:47 shinohai Signed, "A special deceitful shitbag"
09:47 BingoBoingo lol
09:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform o look at that, i even ended up with a "RunMe.exe"
09:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform want it ?
09:51 asciilifeform ended up from where
09:51 asciilifeform and yes
09:51 mircea_popescu " if you're downloading a bunch of fonts and"
09:52 mod6 mornin'
09:53 shinohai o/ mod6
09:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4khqt/?raw=true served by http://all-free-download.com/font/download/level_fourteen_druid_font_5888_download.html
09:57 asciilifeform lol massive piece of shit, includes 'flash player'
09:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-22#1572163 << i'm very much unsurprised. because http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/
09:57 a111 Logged on 2016-11-22 14:46 asciilifeform: speaking of the Profoundly Speshul: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q4/490
09:57 mircea_popescu they STILL haven't fixed the fucking hole.
09:57 asciilifeform 'not bug, feature'
09:58 mircea_popescu the retarded boys and girls club.
10:01 mircea_popescu anyway, given the mechanics of the retarded user and of viral infection, i would suspect 100% of these download-things websites selectively scam their users.
10:01 mircea_popescu the economics are simply unavoidable, 1% is "undetectable" and also utterly sufficient.
10:01 asciilifeform incl. 'mainstreams', e.g., 'vlc player'
10:02 mircea_popescu so no, that slashdot, or softpedia, or whoever else was caught doing it is not some sort of exception.
10:02 asciilifeform (installs adware on crapple/winblows)
10:03 mircea_popescu anyway, i'd suspect this is actually the main entry intake for botnet chumpatron.
10:04 asciilifeform tor exits patching all exes coming through may be close 2nd place medalist
10:04 asciilifeform 'drive-by' -- 3rd, bronze.
10:04 mircea_popescu "i use x thing because it worked fine before" is exactly how animals get infected after all. biologically i mean.
10:07 asciilifeform btw tactic of 'bundle stock flash player + dancing-lolcat-cum-exploit-for-same' is clever in the sense of avoiding whatever av
10:07 mircea_popescu it's even cleverer in how cheap it is.
10:07 asciilifeform matches 0 'driveby' heuristics because it is an exe;
10:07 asciilifeform matches 0 exe heuristics because it is stock 'flashplayer'.
10:08 mircea_popescu aha. and takes ~0 effort to put together.
10:08 asciilifeform very much. considering that there is no need at all to find fresh 0day, you can ship any flashplayer exe you like
10:08 asciilifeform can use decade-old, if you want.
10:08 mircea_popescu yup.
10:09 mircea_popescu well, some uppity av may warn about that, so best keep it in the past few years
10:09 asciilifeform few years, few months, same thing.
10:09 mircea_popescu so you know ... not piece of shit at all. fine piece of virusatronic engineering.
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11:20 asciilifeform meanwhile in the circus, https://archive.is/vcQlA >> 'While President-elect Donald Trump has yet to denounce the alt-right by name, CNN's Chris Cuomo says he should. "It's about being a leader," Cuomo said on "New Day" Tuesday. "You denounce things that are wrong. That's what leaders do."'
11:20 Framedragger http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/5MB.jpg << avian transportation of 5 megabyte disk (~1965) (probably IBM 2311?) - i just like to imagine myself that the javascript "libraries" of a simplistic "modern" "website" alone often weigh more than that. ties into the whole website obesity crisis thread.
11:20 Framedragger just a nice reminder.
11:20 asciilifeform didjaknow, getting down on yer knees, ready to please, is 'what leaders do' aha
11:21 Framedragger s/imagine/remind/
11:21 asciilifeform '"These people aren't kooks. They're a dangerous, racist, anti-Semitic group of people who are attacking the core values of America... [Trump] has an obligation to all Americans to stand up and denounce this group."'
11:22 asciilifeform Framedragger: when i read 'avian transportaion' i expected a pigeon
11:22 asciilifeform not 747.
11:24 Framedragger i thought about that rfc, too. mah english.
11:26 trinque this weird preoccupation with "say the words" seems like it came directly from protestant christianity.
11:27 trinque that being - as far as I can tell - the only belief of that sect.
11:28 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1561913
11:28 a111 Logged on 2016-11-02 13:53 mircea_popescu: "gotta have taint! its how the world works!"
11:29 asciilifeform see also : https://archive.is/gp9At >> 'The event was held at the Northwest Washington restaurant Maggiano's which issued an apology Monday and told the Washington Post that it would donate $10,000 to the D.C. office of the Anti-Defamation League.'
11:35 mircea_popescu trinque aha.
11:35 mircea_popescu protestant fundamentalist conservatives masquerading as liberal progressives.
11:36 mircea_popescu !!up nosuchlabswww
11:36 deedbot nosuchlabswww voiced for 30 minutes.
11:40 mircea_popescu anyway, in actual lulz : trump (bannon) is actually making an alt-right party.
11:41 asciilifeform alt-alt
11:42 asciilifeform so alt that it, e.g., pardons clitler, supports keeping 'good' mexicans, etc.
11:46 mircea_popescu hey, he;s not sworn in yet. if he is or if he isn't gonna jail the shrew, he'd still say he isn't.
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11:47 asciilifeform why'd that be ?
11:49 asciilifeform ( quasi-related historical q for cultured folk: do the lyrics to mega-teutonic-marvel 'Wenn das Judenblut vom Messer spritzt' actually exist on the net? or is whole item a fabrication..? )
11:49 shinohai Did RodrigoBTC spend all his coin on vuvuzela and has none left for bouncer?
11:52 Framedragger !#s tmsr bouncer
11:52 a111 0 results for "tmsr bouncer", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tmsr%20bouncer
11:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you mean heckerlied ?
11:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: standard heckerlied does not appear to contain the magic phrase.
11:54 mircea_popescu "Wenn der Sturmsoldat ins Feuer geht, ei, dann hat er frohen Mut, / und wenn’s Judenblut vom Messer spritzt, dann gehts nochmal so gut" etc ?
11:54 asciilifeform aha, it is refrain
11:54 asciilifeform but from where.
11:54 mircea_popescu heckerlied!
11:54 asciilifeform link?
11:54 mircea_popescu Eine antisemitische Variante, die sich später über ganz Deutschland verbreiten sollte, kam vermutlich im März 1921 bei Freikorps auf, die beim Aufstand in Oberschlesien kämpften und bei denen ein besonders roher Pogrom-Antisemitismus herrschte. In den späteren Jahren der Weimarer Republik ist als Refrain diese antijüdische Version mit Textteilen des bekannten „Sturmsoldaten“-Liedes, einer zeitgenössischen Soldatenl
11:54 mircea_popescu ied-Umdichtung rechtsradikaler Verbände („Wenn der Sturmsoldat ins Feuer geht, ei, dann hat er frohen Mut, / und wenn’s Judenblut vom Messer spritzt, dann gehts nochmal so gut“), gesungen worden – so auch von der SA zur Feier des 30. Januar 1933. Mit der Entmachtung der SA und den geänderten innenpolitischen Interessen der NS-Führung dürfte auch das Absingen der antisemitischen Heckerlied-Variante seltener geworde
11:54 mircea_popescu n sein.
11:54 mircea_popescu there.
11:55 asciilifeform classic heckerlied is from 1848 events neh?
11:55 mircea_popescu (de.wiki)
11:55 mircea_popescu yes.
11:55 mircea_popescu people do rewrite their own songs, like i do all the time on trilema etc.
11:55 asciilifeform well yes. was hoping to find whole picture of the variant.
11:56 mircea_popescu there's tons of them, the commies had one too, something with guillotine.
11:56 asciilifeform that one i recall.
11:56 mircea_popescu ah there, Schmier die Guillotine, schmier die Guillotine, schmier die Guillotine Mit Tyrannenfett.
11:58 asciilifeform https://archive.is/ADewg << the guillotine variant, with translations
12:01 mircea_popescu meanwhile back at the ranch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3mUWKCjFE
12:05 asciilifeform l0l!! they had mircea_popescus in de
12:05 mircea_popescu also 1850s
12:07 * mircea_popescu is half-considering actually paying someone who isn't fucking christoph holzhofer to sing this thing. with a manly voice and proper arrangement not whatever the fuck that beseeching woody allen-wannabe voice + pothead "feminist" guitar drang.
12:07 mircea_popescu do we know anyone with a voice AND his balls ?
12:07 asciilifeform possibly BingoBoingo ?
12:08 mircea_popescu he can sing ?
12:08 asciilifeform probably
12:08 mircea_popescu in german ?!
12:08 asciilifeform 'can you play this stradivari?' 'dunno, never tried yet'
12:08 mircea_popescu prolly best internet brownie points if sung in a very idish-y german, come to think of it.
12:09 asciilifeform maybe pete_dushenski then
12:09 mircea_popescu ideally someone who did trash metal for a decade.
12:09 mircea_popescu while smoking.
12:10 asciilifeform write to 'funker vogt' then...
12:10 asciilifeform i cannot picture this piece in anything but their lead's voice, must confess
12:11 mircea_popescu see http://funker-vogt.com
12:11 mircea_popescu and their german site redirects to facebook
12:11 mircea_popescu lord have mercy...
12:11 asciilifeform i had nfi they even had this
12:12 asciilifeform http://www.funkervogt.com << seems to work
12:12 * mircea_popescu puts an intel ticket in but has little hope.
12:19 Framedragger mircea_popescu: i know a girl who could do it in a pretty lone voice. s/trash metal/some metal and lots of punk/, smoking included, good german, can sing. unless you insist on male voice..
12:19 Framedragger dunno why i said 'lone'. 'nice'.
12:19 mircea_popescu i don't insist. can i hear her ?
12:20 Framedragger i'm certain she's recorded herself (not a professional singer, mind), i'll ask.
12:20 mircea_popescu works.
12:20 Framedragger (may take a while for her to get back to me, so don't have super high hopes - will let you know either way tho!)
12:20 mircea_popescu hey, this entire thing is constructed on "try but don't depend"
12:21 hanbot asciilifeform> write to 'funker vogt' then... << why not wumpscut too lol
12:21 asciilifeform hanbot: & ramstein !
12:21 mircea_popescu anyway if this works eulora will have a sound.
12:22 Framedragger haha, cool!
12:24 * Framedragger sent query
12:25 mircea_popescu o wow check it out, i actually got an email for funkervogt!
12:25 * mircea_popescu will send a bunch of commission requests in a bit.
12:29 mircea_popescu the sheer antitextuality of somebody playing kampchen's stuff STRAIGHT is worth it just for itself.
12:33 asciilifeform https://archive.is/VJjkr << re earlier thread.
12:34 mircea_popescu uh never heard of this guy, what "carefully crafted face of the so-called alt-right" ?
12:35 asciilifeform me neither.
12:35 mircea_popescu dun tell me, let me guess, the jews are going to tell everyone what's what as part of everyone's effort to get rid of them ?
12:35 asciilifeform papier-mache hitler.
12:35 mircea_popescu "more than 30 protesters" dude what ?!
12:38 trinque http://www.dvdizzy.com/images/p/theproducers-03.jpg << nazi standard issue chin. it checks out.
12:38 mircea_popescu which one ?
12:39 trinque dead center
12:39 mircea_popescu a
12:40 trinque if that's not the connection, I'm out of ideas
12:41 mircea_popescu somebody with a lot more time than sense should probably make a libertardwiki, explaining all the things that ARE TRUE!!! such as you know, the nazis were this historical group of white men who didn't believe global warming is caused by internet trolls.
12:41 mircea_popescu and violated safe spaces.
12:42 mircea_popescu holy shit, wikis rot the brain. check out this doozy from nethackwiki.com : "If attempting to gain experience levels, blessing potions of gain level before drinking them makes more sense earlier in the game than later, because at high levels the number of experience points needed to level up through normal adventuring is so high that it's rarely done. At higher experience levels, the number of XP between levels is so huge tha
12:42 mircea_popescu t there is little point in blessing a potion before quaffing, because it's likely the only way you will level up is via potions and wraith corpses. For example, a 5th level character who drinks an uncursed potion would be set to 6th level at 320 XP, versus 480 with a blessed potion. The difference to reach 7th level is 320 (if uncursed was drunk) vs 160 (if blessed was drunk) which is an attainable goal. On the other hand, ab
12:42 mircea_popescu ove the teens the character is often looking at the difference between 500,000 and 1,000,000 XP, neither of which are likely to be realized through normal adventuring, so blessing the potion makes little difference."
12:43 mircea_popescu how the everloving fuck can someone write THAT rather than "DO NOT quaff level pots at low level" ? it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
12:43 mircea_popescu "oh but we are dedicated to not telling people what to do" "and your mother's a whore."
12:47 diana_coman that sounds to me like the perfect expression of monkey-brain: no instantly visible result means not worth doing
12:47 trinque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk << who could've predicted the flamboyant voice on this... heh, I dub them alt-boys.
12:48 mircea_popescu diana_coman the problem is that if indeed the later level half-sh reward is not worth getting, THEN therefore the early level full level reward is also not worth getting.
12:48 asciilifeform monkey never read knuth, but runs 'greedy algorithm'
12:48 mircea_popescu trinque maaan... that's pathetic.
12:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform EXACTLY!
12:48 mircea_popescu fucking insult to culture.
12:49 trinque but... mehhhhhm!
12:49 mircea_popescu trinque he also sounds jewish.
12:49 trinque wouldn't be pomo enough otherwise
12:49 asciilifeform btw i once went to an 'alt-right' thing in dc. (with herr handle & co.!) -- and iirc literally everybody in the room was some form of j000
12:50 mircea_popescu i think it must be blindness throuhg immersion (and a healthy dose of phonetics innocence, obv.)
12:50 mircea_popescu but anyway, to anyone who's not-them the whole thing is intrinsically self-critting
12:53 diana_coman monkey-brain -> NOTHING beyond "instantly visible"
12:57 asciilifeform greedy algo ~worx~. but it leads to the question of what the 'thinker' needs all of those extra neurons for. a dozen would suffice.
13:01 trinque maybe someday the right zika gets rid of them.
13:07 asciilifeform trinque: afaik it ~produces~ them..
13:07 asciilifeform the liberasts' wet dream.
13:09 trinque meant the neurons; seems to me the right virus would yes, make the perfect creatures of idiocracy
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14:32 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://evilzone.org/index.php?page=forum&sub=thread&thread=4089
14:33 asciilifeform ( https://archive.is/5d0u2 )
14:34 shinohai lol dat name
14:36 trinque .... so that's "covertress" ?
14:38 asciilifeform i have nfi, could be that both were named for same tv character or the like.
14:38 shinohai covertress died cryptographic death, no longer has original keyz
14:40 asciilifeform that's just cryptographic lost-at-sea
14:40 asciilifeform (proper death is when privkey is blown publicly)
14:40 asciilifeform not that the distinction is interesting in the given case.
14:41 shinohai I'm not entirely unsure this won't be the case in future, since last time I checked she had started using keybase.io
14:42 shinohai "Your privkey is totally safe with us!"
14:43 Framedragger (i don't think keybase gets to see your privkey tho.)
14:43 asciilifeform Framedragger: sure as hell it does
14:44 asciilifeform (in one variant; always; in another - whenever they feel like serving up slightly different js to the chump)
14:44 Framedragger hm.
14:44 Framedragger if true, wow
14:45 Framedragger asciilifeform: what do you mean, "slightly different js"? is there any point in time where you need to entrust your privkey to local js? i thought it was just a matter of giving it pubkeys and sigs?
14:45 trinque she was clearly part of some inclusive ft meade hiring program
14:45 Framedragger i've stayed away from keybase as it had that creepy (and useless) hipsta vibe, but if true, then it's actively malicious.
14:45 Framedragger just curious.
14:45 trinque go infiltrate teh hax0rs with your middle aged woman charms
14:46 asciilifeform Framedragger: point is that wwwtronic crapolade can introduce arbitrary disjunction between what luser is doing and what he thinks he is doing.
14:47 Framedragger asciilifeform: i'm not disagreeing, and of course that's true. but it's still one thing to trust js which, say, generates privkey for you and then promises not to send it the server, "pinky promise" like, and another whereby you paste signatures from external program
14:47 Framedragger but if it has a "luzer friendly mode" where "you don't need to external app yo", then that's bad by itself. :/
14:48 asciilifeform Framedragger: why would a user who is able to 'paste signatures from external program' need a thing like keybase ?
14:48 trinque machine is labeled "dick blender" whether you fuck it or not
14:48 Framedragger it says "add or create a PGP key" when registered. heh.
14:49 Framedragger asciilifeform: well, you can link your social accounts, and stuff. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT STUPID, but there's additional value
14:49 asciilifeform 'upload your privkey, or let us make a very very speshul one FOR YOU!'
14:49 trinque Framedragger: what the fuck does that do
14:49 Framedragger also, something about a virtual folder for sharing data with friends whose pgp keys you have? you just do echo "attack at dawn" > /something/friendname/secret.txt
14:50 Framedragger not upload. jesus.
14:50 Framedragger anyway. i'm not using keybase. i'm just sayin'.
14:50 trinque you're saying what, exactly?
14:50 trinque "but anyway?" ?
14:50 Framedragger trinque: well, you then submit "proofs" (say tweets) which you can open to actually confirm a pgp signed message saying that "@isuckballs is my (gpg id: ...) twitter account."
14:51 Framedragger trinque: that you can use it without having to trust js not to upload your privkey.
14:51 asciilifeform pray tell, what does this 'prove' and to whom ?
14:51 trinque use to what?!
14:51 Framedragger ugh, no i need to be an advocate of keybase.
14:51 Framedragger now*
14:52 trinque look, that something "does something" and that being useful to the person doing are distinct
14:52 trinque I roger verified my twitter and now twitter can't tweet as me?
14:52 Framedragger look, obviously there are people for whom sociul media accountz are really important. some of them want to pretend they can use crypto, so they use keybase to help them "link" their accounts. while this is inane, this does not, in itself, pose a security risk, if done properly (with external program which handles your privkey.)
14:52 trinque or did I just rub the pgp sauce on my twitter because it evokes a special feeling in my empty loins
14:53 trinque the point is cozying people up to the idea of 3rd party facilitated crypto over time
14:53 trinque and if they don't get your privkey today, they get it tomorrow
14:53 Framedragger trinque: well, there's that. not gonna argue with that. i suppose you're right.
14:53 Framedragger hmh.
14:53 Framedragger okay, maybe.
14:54 Framedragger i just don't like characterizations. (inb4 "but you don't defend when tmsr is characterised!1" << well, haven't seen much of the latter so far.)
14:54 Framedragger *mischaracterizations.
14:55 Framedragger *mischaracterized. sorry.
14:57 Framedragger mircea_popescu: girl came back to me saying she doesn't want to do it, doesn't feel confident enough. "maybe later". owell.
14:58 Framedragger she said she tried recording herself sing schubert and it sounded horrible for her. :(
14:58 mircea_popescu aha.
15:00 Framedragger https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4026664 << "Evilzone - Hacking and Security Network is creating security awareness". pay with paypal to support! gold
15:01 asciilifeform Framedragger: it is also full of cribbed likbez material.
15:02 Framedragger asciilifeform: what, evilzone? i see
15:02 asciilifeform Framedragger: in as far as i can tell, it is a very ordinary trap for the wotless/unwary/eager young'uns, 'alt-right'-style.
15:04 Framedragger interesting.
15:09 mircea_popescu Framedragger no, there aren't people to whom their social media accounts are really important, because there aren't people so that the "their" attribute may be applied to twitter's page.
15:10 mircea_popescu you understand how logic works, yes, once you have a true->false in the chain you can obtain any results.
15:11 mircea_popescu you might as well say "there are squares whose radii are larger than five". while arbitrary sized squares may in fact be constructed, squares still don't have radii and so you're still not saying something.
15:11 mircea_popescu and yes i'm aware that there exist geometric figures which do have radii. this isn't germane.
15:12 asciilifeform http://downdetector.com/status/google << in other lulz, guess who has dns outage today
15:14 Framedragger mircea_popescu: sure, logical explosion, though yeah that usually requires both attribute-holders to exist, if you're claiming one of them doesn't, then it's just a nonsensical statement. which i guess is your point... i suppose so.
15:16 mircea_popescu it is my point.
15:18 mircea_popescu so yes, for the people to whom "their" twitter's page is important, then "their" keybase key makes sense. and for the same money, for the people who breathe underwater, land respiratorial equipment is a must get. and for the people who are healed by collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc, collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc are useful.
15:20 trinque http://archive.is/xSf35 << Pressed on whether he had definitively ruled out a prosecution of Mrs. Clinton, he said, “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.”
15:20 trinque ahaha
15:21 * trinque can hear Alex Jones screaming from here
15:22 mircea_popescu lol
15:28 asciilifeform 'Mr. Trump denied that his campaign had energized the so-called alt-right movement, saying he disavowed it. “It’s not a group I want to energize,” he said. “And if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.”'
15:28 mircea_popescu lol
15:28 asciilifeform ( from trinque's link )
15:29 asciilifeform 'When Mr. Trump was asked whether he condemned an alt-right conference over the weekend in Washington, where some attendees raised their arms in a Hitler-like salute, he said, “I disavow and condemn them.”'
15:31 asciilifeform ''He did tell me what he thought were the biggest problems, in particular one problem," Trump says. Won't say what that was.' << mega-lul
15:37 trinque http://archive.is/q6qkI << meanwhile pedo-pizza thing is being psyopped into a "fake news" meme
15:37 trinque that's it, 2016 tied up with a bow, nice and clean.
15:37 * trinque yawns
15:38 trinque I guess the gay nazis will have plenty of conference fodder
15:42 asciilifeform the photos of 'victim kidz' added to the mix is same gambit as when the 'martians did it' folx were turned loose upon '9/11 truth'.
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15:42 asciilifeform aka crankbait.
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15:43 asciilifeform or, if you like, discreditation-spray.
15:43 mircea_popescu hey, the one thing fly empire doesn't lack is flies.
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16:37 asciilifeform !~later tell davout is your www down ?
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16:37 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
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17:43 asciilifeform trinque: the 'fake newz' crapolade is being quite purposefully and deliberately drummed up, 'anything without the magic blue authenticity logo is FAEK' or the like.
17:43 asciilifeform trinque: nyt et all are transitioning to a very explicit 'pravda' model.
17:44 asciilifeform i will be surprised if before the end of '17 'google chrome' and similar do not yet warn 'THIS NEWS SITE MAY BE FAEK', sorta how it now is beginning to do for ssl abstainers
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18:56 mircea_popescu and like the rest of their measures to date, this latest attempt to lift the rock with the rotten reed will result in more damage to the rotten reed.
18:56 mircea_popescu "this news site may be faek" hurts google a lot more than it hurts qntra.
18:57 mircea_popescu anyway, seeing how nowadays wikipedia refuses to serve over http (for no fucking reason whatsoever, who the shit cares already!), an entreprising fellow may simply bridge their content over to http
18:57 mircea_popescu they'd of course discover nobody cares about wikipedia, but still - who thinks otherwise, there's your angle.
18:58 asciilifeform there is already a tall pile of otherwise unremarkable sites that won't display in latest Official version of any ssltronic browser on account of 'obsolete protocol' or wtf.
18:59 shinohai progress.
19:03 mircea_popescu well nobody forces you to use ssl.
19:03 asciilifeform the 'fake newz', 'this site MAY HARM YOUR COMPUTER!1111', etc. are simply part of the inexorable march to http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 .
19:08 mircea_popescu if only that shit worked, what a wonderful world would it be.
19:15 asciilifeform https://archive.is/uc78F << in related lulz.
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19:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2376DC4A598D0B7FBCC1A66D71E36ADB37969120DC2D5B7C24BAEC8DD9FF5FD9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2944...7291 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.226.172.170 (ssh-rsa key from 109.226.172.170 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; '
20:04 jurov http://fedscoop.com/hurd-crypto-debate-should-end << not the gnu hurd but some member
20:06 asciilifeform jurov: i get a black screen
20:06 asciilifeform but https://archive.is/xSlhy loads.
20:06 jurov too many hoops jumping in thinking there to cite anything
20:09 trinque I read it, dunno why I did
20:09 trinque "yes we can" over and over
20:10 jurov it felt like dude has disconnected hemispheres or something
20:11 jurov !up RodrigoBTCF
20:11 asciilifeform !!up RodrigoBTCF
20:11 deedbot RodrigoBTCF voiced for 30 minutes.
20:12 RodrigoBTCF Thanks, Jurov.
20:12 RodrigoBTCF I will authenticate in a second
20:13 jurov RodrigoBTCF: asciilifeform did it
20:13 mircea_popescu it's an uppers party!
20:13 asciilifeform jurov: the knobs are at http://bots.contravex.com (to which asciilifeform will admit he must refer to regularly, the two-char syntaxes are terrible imho )
20:14 RodrigoBTCF Ready
20:14 shinohai The bickening III
20:16 mircea_popescu just scroll it on a dedicated lcd :D
20:17 trinque even if we were doing deedbot: !!up guy people would moan about how they don't remember which bot does what
20:17 asciilifeform it'll end up on dedicated chalkboard
20:17 trinque or rather deedbot: up guy
20:18 trinque inb4 bot semantic web
20:27 Framedragger !%pp
20:27 tb0t Projects: UCI | t | trb | v
20:28 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2376DC4A598D0B7FBCC1A66D71E36ADB37969120DC2D5B7C24BAEC8DD9FF5FD9 << i'ma have to make the factors clickable eventually. because this is mega-uninformative.
20:28 Framedragger !%p t
20:28 tb0t [!%p|!%print] <project> <id>
20:28 asciilifeform (if it isn't obvious, the thing exists INSIDE some other mod)
20:28 Framedragger !%print t
20:28 tb0t [!%p|!%print] <project> <id>
20:28 Framedragger !%pc
20:28 tb0t Ticket Type Codes: C => CHANGE | D => DEFECT | F => FEATURE | I => INVESTIGATE | R => REFERENCE | S => SAGA | T => TASK | X => DOCUMENT
20:29 Framedragger "i see" http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/234/739/fa5.jpg
20:30 Framedragger phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/ says 301 -> http://btcbase.org/patches/NIL , the latter as appropriate to nil i guess 404's
20:30 Framedragger !#s view tickets
20:30 a111 2 results for "view tickets", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=view%20tickets
20:31 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-14#1298920 << just curious if anyone has been looking into this? trying to wrap my head around stuff-that-is-being-worked on :)
20:31 a111 Logged on 2015-10-14 20:13 asciilifeform: the - presently nameless - pgptron - is simply an emulator for a very simple but imaginary computer which performs arbitrary arithmetic on bignums.
20:32 Framedragger (there's probably been some further design work? and then asciilifeform probably has something written down, i imagine)
20:33 asciilifeform Framedragger: it is actually largely done. but unreleased, will come after FUCKGOATS
20:33 Framedragger !#s fuckgoats
20:33 a111 5 results for "fuckgoats", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=fuckgoats
20:33 asciilifeform Framedragger: it had working title 'P'. think 'rpn calculator' and you -- mostly -- have it.
20:33 Framedragger ahh. s.nsa; my god you people
20:33 mod6 Framedragger: are you trying to view a ticket for trb?
20:34 Framedragger mod6: tbh am just fiddling around. i wanted a list of all tickets, and to be able to view every ticket separately, if that's even applicable
20:34 mod6 it won't do that, because, spam.
20:34 Framedragger also i don't remember where on the web i can view this, if anywhere
20:34 Framedragger right, fair enough!
20:34 mod6 if you wanna see all the tickets: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ take a look in there.
20:34 Framedragger yeah i should PRIVMSG it anyway, i guess.
20:34 Framedragger mod6: ah! ty!
20:35 mod6 i'm actually making a database currently for a possible private version in the future.
20:35 mod6 im tinkering with the database tables now actually.
20:35 asciilifeform paaaaaaaatience folx
20:35 mod6 %p trb 1
20:35 mod6 christ.
20:35 mod6 !%p trb 1
20:35 tb0t Project: trb, ID: 1, Type: D, Subject: Wallet counts change amounts in total balance, Antecedents: , Notes: It has been wildly reported that version 0.5.4 (99999) of the Reference Implementation adds change from a given transaction to the wallet balance.
20:36 Framedragger cool stuff.
20:36 mod6 anyway, trb takes my top efforts, but i'll fit this new t stuff in when I can for sure.
20:37 Framedragger i'm mostly just lost between all the different pieces of the republican infrastructure :)
20:37 Framedragger (which reminds me that i hinted of consolidating what i myself find into a wiki, which would be useful for folks, and never did that...)
20:37 Framedragger at*
20:38 mircea_popescu lol
20:39 Framedragger asciilifeform: but pgp key itself would supply ciphers, right? yeah, cool stuff / makes sense.
20:39 * Framedragger sleeps for now
20:40 mod6 ni ni
20:43 asciilifeform Framedragger: well, pubkey, not 'pgp key'. but yes.
20:43 asciilifeform Framedragger: there was a long thread, somewhere in the logz it sits.
20:43 shinohai What the hell is a PoC? https://twitter.com/SarahJamieLewis/status/801212011996557312
20:44 shinohai person of color I suppose?
20:44 mircea_popescu proof of cunt
20:45 shinohai If you aren't queer or whatever I guess you can't write and get paid for them.
20:54 asciilifeform re 'proof of cunt', one inescapably wonders why this important organ escaped the 'biometrics' craze
20:54 asciilifeform where is that legend of legends, the cuntprint reader.
20:55 asciilifeform the PoC-operated doorway. etc
20:57 phf Framedragger: yeah, bug in the router, can access as http://btcbase.org/patches (which i know is confusing since it's also /log/), but obviously needs to be fixed
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20:59 phf all the sbcl friendly patching that i did in september was done on the server, live, under fire, so right now i'm just slowly retroactively vpatching the code, at which point i can move onto the outstanding issues
21:00 asciilifeform i have nfi what specifically phf did to his logtron, but it mostly worx now!!
21:01 asciilifeform ( at one point asciilifeform was convinced that phf must be running his logtron on winblowz 98 or similar ! )
21:01 trinque lel
21:01 trinque such compliment
21:01 asciilifeform but that was then !!
21:03 trinque phf: can has way of linking first spoken line of a nick?
21:03 phf it got stable as soon as i stopped worrying about it
21:03 trinque that's what I did with deedbot; forgot about it and the gods favored me.
21:03 asciilifeform trinque, phf: iirc the ancient logz are not yet in..?
21:04 asciilifeform (so it'd then show inaccurate 'first spoke's)
21:04 trinque still would be right endpoint that eventually would be honest?
21:08 mircea_popescu yes but you prolly don't actually want it before he does the import
21:09 phf asciilifeform: that's the first task after i vpatch the code. i basically started doing that on live server, got as far as loading the logs into memory, and realize that i can't change what's there without testing it, which means i need to backport everything into my dev environment. blah blah blah
21:11 phf trinque: how's the interface supposed to look? /log-first-message?nick=foo and it gives you html rendering? or text/plain in kako format? or?
21:12 trinque a guy clicks a link on the wot browser and he's kicked to a page which highlights the message.
21:12 trinque so day page plus the anchor link which identifies the line
21:12 phf oh oh
21:12 trinque select * from log order by created at limit 1
21:21 phf trinque: http://btcbase.org/log-first-post?nick=trinque
21:22 trinque nice!
21:22 trinque where are these ancient logs, anyway?
21:22 phf in logs
21:23 * trinque trips on an enso
21:24 phf i think it's http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-02#1444829
21:24 a111 Logged on 2016-04-02 19:14 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt.tar.gz
21:24 trinque in completely other lol, apparently the ppc macs have a vestigial serial port
21:25 trinque phf: so like, import them, man.
21:26 * trinque thinks the serial diode as described by asciilifeform is appropriate for deedbot wallet.
21:27 trinque thing can barf gpg'd OTP one direction, can receive OTP from another
21:29 trinque lest anyone thing I'm tipping my hand, I don't think the thing can work at all unless the mechanism by which it works can be made public.
21:34 mircea_popescu certainly open internals is the golden standard for safety machinery.
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22:11 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> probably << For some definitions thereof. Do have the smoking thing.
22:19 mats https://ramtin-amin.fr/#nvmepcie
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22:44 asciilifeform mats: pretty neat
22:44 asciilifeform lel re how they stuffed entire comp into the 'nand'
22:44 asciilifeform with own os etc.
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23:00 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-21#1571797 << trinque does that thing ever update??
23:00 a111 Logged on 2016-11-21 06:11 trinque: http://wot.deedbot.org/29F5BC967632415AB9836DB63E452A7A2A00DEC1.html << thing's coming along.
23:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2376DC4A598D0B7FBCC1A66D71E36ADB37969120DC2D5B7C24BAEC8DD9FF5FD9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1704...9563 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.226.172.170 (ssh-rsa key from 109.226.172.170 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; '
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23:45 trinque asciilifeform: it will.
23:46 trinque what's up currently was a single shot of the tool
23:47 * trinque just wandered home from drinking with some suit-wearing creatures he just met at a local pub.
23:48 trinque suffice it to say that this country does not produce anyone worth "networking" is a thing.
23:48 trinque *with whom
23:48 trinque but y'know, got some free cigarettes out of the deal, so as usual, net gain
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