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00:00 * asciilifeform falls down.
00:01 ben_vulpes best lolz i found on the web all day.
00:01 asciilifeform at last, the ancient dream. pornoshannonizer.
00:02 ben_vulpes haha aha
00:02 asciilifeform idea, incidentally, is ancient.
00:02 asciilifeform i 'evolved' similar 'martians' in an old msdos proggy, iirc called 'imogene'.
00:03 asciilifeform unfortunately none of the output - survived.
00:03 asciilifeform (or, fortunately..)
00:03 asciilifeform evolved, incidentally, starting from white noise.
00:03 asciilifeform pure 'genetic algo'. pick the 'more fun', times 1,001...
00:04 ben_vulpes there was a screensaver that did this as well
00:05 phf asciilifeform: hey you mind greping for the first log entry, "just looked at chart... shit... a couple hours can be an eternity in bitcoin land" and see what time you have?
00:06 asciilifeform phf: Apr 25 18:01:31
00:17 phf is that 23:01:31 in utc?
00:18 asciilifeform nein
00:18 asciilifeform est.
00:18 trinque https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659 << discussion of gaddafi's plans for gold-backed african currency
00:18 trinque interesting alt-future that'd be
00:19 asciilifeform ooold noose.
00:19 trinque reminds me of a documentary I watched recently on chicago. a young black gang member says more or less "they killed all the gang leaders, and then everything collapsed"
00:19 asciilifeform fella got usg bayonet up his starfish for a reason.
00:19 trinque killed/locked-up
00:19 trinque aha
00:21 trinque same mistake every single time. they have imperial aspirations, yet they apparently have no idea how to do this? you don't destroy the whole power structure in a place; you *take* it
00:21 asciilifeform they gotta impose the star topology.
00:25 trinque I hear there are reasons, and it's because of them.
~ 31 minutes ~
00:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform certainly.
00:59 mircea_popescu heh the ai-nsfw crap is almost amusing.
01:01 mircea_popescu trinque africa needs a currency like hillary needs anal lube.
~ 16 minutes ~
01:17 mircea_popescu and in other lulz, if your name was broderick and you had a daughter, how could you not name her limerick.
01:24 mircea_popescu (bonus track : A randy marsupial named Reeves spent a while between a cocksucker's knees. When she asked him for money he said "Listen honey... a koala eats bushes and leaves.")
01:36 BingoBoingo !~b 3
01:36 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Error: "b" is not a valid command.
~ 7 hours 13 minutes ~
08:50 mircea_popescu wait, i got more.
08:50 mircea_popescu Said Miguel to the gringo, "Senor, eef I open thees here closet door an' dee lady eenside ees my leetle lost bride then I theenk I mus' leek'er some more."
~ 59 minutes ~
09:49 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/rseq3/?raw=true <<< before my internet dies again
09:49 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
09:54 asciilifeform https://archive.is/JamfF << monumental nsalulz
09:56 asciilifeform 'The Defendant has also communicated online with others in languages other than English, including in Russian, and in June 2016 downloaded information regarding the Russian language as well as other foreign languages.' << mega-crime
09:56 asciilifeform didjaknow.
09:58 asciilifeform 'There is evidence that he has remote data storage accounts and has engaged in encrypted communications. The Defendant also had encrypted communication and cloud storage apps installed on his mobile device.' << mega-lel.
10:02 asciilifeform funny how they put the 'cloud storage' in the bail denial affidavit, but have not yet even bothered to parallelconstruct some reason ~other than it~ for how the d00d could have been caught.
10:07 asciilifeform (for folks who have not heard of this show trial - harold martin worked at nsa-tao and was arrested for, supposedly, taking the contents home by the crate.)
10:09 asciilifeform 'In a review of the digital information seized from the Defendant, the government found a letter, apparently created in 2007, which was addressed to government employees with whom he worked, and signed “Hal.” In the letter, the Defendant refers to his co-workers as “clowns” and criticizes the government’s digital security measures: Well, for one thing, I’ve seen pretty much all your tech secrets wrt [sic] regard to compus
10:09 asciilifeform ec [computer security]. Thanks. You made me a much better infosec [information security] practitioner. In exchange, well, I gave you my time, and you failed to allow me to help you... You are missing most of the basics in security practice, while thinking you are the best. It’s the bread and butter stuff that will trip you up. Trust me on this one. Seen it.... Dudes/Dudettes, I can’t make this any plainer... Listen up . . . ‘Th
10:09 asciilifeform ey’ are inside the perimeter. . . I’ll leave you with this: if you don’t get obnoxious, obvious, and detrimental to my future, then I will not bring you ‘into the light’, as it were. If you do, well, remember that you did it to yourselves. The antipathy demonstrated in this letter raises grave concerns about the Defendant’s intentions and potential actions should he be released.'
~ 36 minutes ~
10:45 BingoBoingo tyvm alf for the find
10:47 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/10/prosecutors-forget-to-parallel-construct-that-harold-t-martins-mistake-was-trusting-cloud-storage-providers-in-bail-denial-affidavit/ << Qntra - Prosecutors Forget To Parallel Construct That Harold T. Martin's Mistake Was Trusting Cloud Storage Providers In Bail Denial Affidavit
10:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty lulzy.
10:54 mircea_popescu also quite accurate.
~ 15 minutes ~
11:10 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: mistake-was -> mistake-wasn't ?
11:12 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: He used cloud storage apps so his mistake was trusting them? Even if he was dumping encrypted blobs.
11:12 asciilifeform well yes
11:12 asciilifeform but 'parallel construct' means the creation of some smoke screen
11:12 asciilifeform e.g., 'he blabbed to his mother' or the like.
11:12 mircea_popescu they evidently don't know what's in [at least some] of them. however they do know who he is. metadata.
11:13 asciilifeform which afaik the prosecutor has not yet spewed forth.
11:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they've got real sloppy with it, partly because nobody buys it anyway, partly because bureaucrats are deeply uncreative (in this case, practically : affraid of "revealing" shit through the pc. as if they actually had something left to reveal.)
11:13 asciilifeform so the sentence would go 'prosecutors forget to parallel construct that ... martin's mistake wasn't ... cloud'
11:13 BingoBoingo AH: "Prosecutors Forget To Parallel Construct Away That Harold T. Martin's Mistake Was Trusting Cloud Storage Providers In Bail Denial Affidavit" -- New TItle
11:13 asciilifeform aha, or this.
11:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i dun get why they even mentioned 'cloud', it gave the card trick away in, srsly, 30 seconds of my reading
11:14 asciilifeform gotta be a deliberate taunt to the audience.
11:14 mircea_popescu because bread and butter stuff gets them ?
11:15 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/10/dyn-dns-suffers-packet-inflation-many-other-services-affected/ << Qntra - Dyn DNS Suffers Packet Inflation, Many Other "Services" Affected
11:15 mircea_popescu stupidity is the occam selection.
11:17 asciilifeform the defense's affidavit (included) was also lulzy, evidently they had 1-3 of these per year, none were publicized. this time they needed a public scapegoat, so.
11:18 mircea_popescu myeah.
11:19 asciilifeform re: 'cloud', imho the hypothesis that ~this was~ the parallelconstruction, cannot be dismissed.
11:19 asciilifeform possibly d00d was not an idiot, and never touched 'clouds.'
11:19 asciilifeform they created - for him.
11:19 asciilifeform (whereas he was caught in some other way, e.g. by a politruk.)
11:20 mircea_popescu if they did or if they didn't, the "i had nothing to do with it" defense is ironclad as far as that goes.
11:20 asciilifeform dunno that there is a defense. the penal code article he was arrested under is a 'strict liability'.
11:20 asciilifeform i.e. 'did the rape? do the ape'
11:21 mircea_popescu strict liability for what ?
11:21 asciilifeform found with the stash
11:21 mircea_popescu "i never saw this before"
11:21 asciilifeform the only defense, afaik, that could be attempted, was 'they planted it'
11:21 asciilifeform aha.
11:21 mircea_popescu "so how come it's there ?" "you planted it" no we didn't" "mkay"
11:22 asciilifeform and it would appear that his wife has already turned rat.
11:22 mircea_popescu "it's your house" "it's not legal for me to shoot intruders, so no, it's your house"
11:22 asciilifeform so he's through.
11:22 mircea_popescu hey, marriage is for suckers.
11:22 asciilifeform eh if he had no wife, it'd be some other rat.
11:22 mircea_popescu how ? "i never saw her before."
11:23 asciilifeform lel, brilliant, it's a marvel that anybody ever gets imprisoned, if it were so easy..
11:23 mircea_popescu these are different matters.
11:23 mircea_popescu the defense is still ironclad. that they stick him in jail anyway is entirely their problem.
11:24 asciilifeform i suspect that the folks for whom 'the defense is ironclad' they simply nailgun.
11:24 asciilifeform and we never hear of it.
11:24 mircea_popescu maybe.
11:28 asciilifeform 'When confronted with specific marked documents he had stolen, only then did the Defendant begin to admit that: (1) he had taken documents and digital files that he knew were classified from his work assignment to his residence and vehicle, and (2) he knew such actions were unauthorized and wrong. He also admitted that he had committed these crimes regularly over many years.'
11:28 asciilifeform confessed, supposedly.
11:29 mircea_popescu heh
11:30 asciilifeform btw i doubt that it would take otto skorzeny and his merry men, to break martin out of the clink. if he were 'valuable', as prosecutor alleges, he would already be in moscow.
11:35 mircea_popescu usians are weird about "The country"
11:35 asciilifeform hm?
~ 16 minutes ~
11:51 mircea_popescu he prolly didn't want to leave
11:52 asciilifeform expected to hide among the grizzlies in the forest, or wat.
11:53 mircea_popescu no, just, idiot born in the us, doesn't comprehend how utterly irrelevant it is. because "THE COUNTRY"
11:54 asciilifeform i'd naively picture that if d00d made up his mind to plunder the crown jewels, he would have an escape plan (even if nonsensical, like, e.g., carl force's) in his head. but no.
11:54 mircea_popescu can't leave "\the country"
11:55 trinque could've been entirely power fantasy; he's outsmarted "teh best (tm)" after all
11:55 asciilifeform it isn't even as if he would have to leave penniless and beg on streets.
11:56 trinque piles of docs could've been his closet full of women's shoes/underwear/pinky-toes too
11:56 asciilifeform trinque: what kind of 'power fantasy' ends with starving incommunicado in fbi dungeon ?
11:57 mircea_popescu most ?
11:57 mircea_popescu it's a fantasy after all.
11:57 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/if-a-family-by-the-name-broderick-had-a-son-an-they-named-him-roderick-could-he-in-turn-without-concern-eschew-naming-his-daughter-limerick/ << Trilema - If a family by the name Broderick had a son an' they named him Roderick could he in turn, without concern, eschew naming his daughter Limerick ?
11:57 mircea_popescu ^ let me know which you like best :D
12:03 BingoBoingo "To fight the evil patriarchy a young hussy barebacked a darky. The result of their sins were quadruplets, not twins : one black, one white and two khaki." << roflmao
12:05 trinque ahahahahaha!
12:09 trinque There was a young sailor from Brighton who once told his girl "You're a tight one." She replied, "`Pon my soul, you're in the wrong hole. There's plenty of room in the right one." << also gold
12:14 * mircea_popescu is playing ella fitzgerald an' chillin
12:17 shinohai I rather like `A misfortunate fellow named Rex had a vanishingly small sex. Once charged with exposure he replied with composure "De minimus non curat lex." `
~ 34 minutes ~
12:52 shinohai https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12759653 <<< rofl
13:00 danielpbarron !~bible matthew 19:10-11 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557799
13:00 a111 Logged on 2016-10-21 15:22 mircea_popescu: hey, marriage is for suckers.
13:00 jhvh1 danielpbarron: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
13:01 danielpbarron !~bible matthew 19:10-11
13:01 jhvh1 danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 19:10 :: His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
13:01 jhvh1 danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 19:11 :: But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
~ 15 minutes ~
13:17 asciilifeform SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote: 85.25.118.68-53725;Name: coin [preauth]
13:17 asciilifeform ^ lel
13:17 asciilifeform ^ on a box with nonstandard ports, at that.
13:17 asciilifeform somewhere, someone, is a hydrocephalus, has user 'coin',...?
~ 19 minutes ~
13:37 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/10/nitrocellulose-recategorized-as-high-explosive-in-us-through-quiet-physics-defying-ruling/ << Qntra - Nitrocellulose Recategorized As High Explosive In US Through Quiet Physics Defying Ruling
13:37 BingoBoingo ^ 4alf
13:37 asciilifeform SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote: 85.25.118.68-48757;Name: dashcoin [preauth]
13:37 asciilifeform ...
13:37 asciilifeform SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote: 85.25.118.68-51510;Name: bitcoin [preauth] .
13:40 BingoBoingo lololololol
13:46 shinohai dash = anonymity
13:46 asciilifeform oh, and, apparently lastly,
13:46 asciilifeform 'eth' .
13:48 ben_vulpes you install mamp on one macbook and the whole internet goes down
13:48 ben_vulpes who knew things were this bad
13:49 shinohai dash = anonymity
13:49 trinque every piece of shit on the web was apparently using dyn?
13:49 trinque what is this nonsense
13:49 trinque AND NOBODY PUT A SECOND SET OF SERVERS IN EVEN?
13:49 trinque to say nothing of being a champ and running your own DNS
~ 15 minutes ~
14:05 asciilifeform in other noose, who remembers http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-13#1131177 ?
14:05 a111 Logged on 2015-05-13 22:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/freedom-to-tinker-derp.png
14:05 asciilifeform well, derp has archive.is blocked
14:05 asciilifeform (we really need a pill against this nonsense)
14:06 asciilifeform and, https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2016/10/21/bitcoin-is-unstable-without-the-block-reward << the loltron in question.
14:08 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/9e3lw/?raw=true << the raw crapola.
~ 24 minutes ~
14:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno of a pill other than replicating the service and closing it to non-l1
14:34 mircea_popescu incidentally ben_vulpes would you be amenable to print email received by foo@cascadianhacker.com on wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/foo@cascadianhacker.com for 24 hours ?
14:34 mircea_popescu alternatively, you could just lift the whole https://github.com/ruffrey/mailsac package.
14:34 mircea_popescu i contacted the author, but he's not bothered to write back, so whatevs. would be a useful service for teh republic it seems to me.
14:34 asciilifeform replicate - yes; not sure what l1ing it would do
14:35 asciilifeform (other than raise the friction to the point where ~nobody can ~ever be arsed to use it)
14:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i should care what people i don't know wish to preserve ? as it happens, i don't.
14:36 asciilifeform not 'people i don't know
14:36 asciilifeform '
14:39 mircea_popescu well then let them l themselves.
14:41 mircea_popescu and in other news nobody gives a shit about : the argentine govt announced an "amnesty" whereby idiots with cash in strongboxes/matresses etc can "blanquear" it, by depositing it in a bank and paying 11% in tax ("to begin with"). same applies to foreign holdings.
14:42 mircea_popescu this generous measure of voluntary self-rape "ends" on 31st, after being extended a coupla times. meanwhile the govt has been piling on debt at about 2x the rate of the kirscheristas.
14:42 mircea_popescu seeing how the other, with expatriated goods, ends in march, i would expect the reasonable time for argentina to faceplant in the mud would be about april.
14:42 mircea_popescu if anyone's looking to buy cheap farmer's [who thinks himself a gentleman] daughters / farms / etc, that's your horizon.
14:43 asciilifeform what's the excuse for the vacuum job, devaluation a la ruble ?
14:44 mircea_popescu the real estate market is holding by a thread. to understand each other : in the same country where the bumpkins imagine real estate goes by 1000-1500 usd per sq meter, they have SERIOUS problems over xmas bonus worth 2000 pesos (~120 dollars), to the point it's a major topic of televised debates.
14:44 mircea_popescu sales are down to nothing, the people are utterly desperate for food and other basics. girls still wanna marry, this year like all others. etc.
14:44 mircea_popescu the ~only hope to maintain the pretense is by putting a lot of pressure on the monetary supply. so... they will.
14:46 mircea_popescu not like the average "middle class" (in his mind only) argentine has any other resources besides renting out an apartment and expecting govt payola for his university "education". neither of which look too good at the moment.
14:47 asciilifeform who are the renters?
14:48 mircea_popescu ~everyone. this is the profile of middle class argentinian family : unemployed man que es letrado (=with a law degree, never practiced) + homemaker and their teenaged 2.2 kids, living off a) the man's income from governmental sinecures + the woman's income from her parents' appointed dowry in the shape of real estate. this is it.
14:49 mircea_popescu they have ~500k units privately held by ~3mn owners in bizarro clan arrangements, and virtually no commercial rental market to speak of.
14:49 asciilifeform sooo... they rent apt with... the income from their inherited apt ..?
14:49 asciilifeform wai.
14:49 mircea_popescu no, they own one and rent another.
14:49 asciilifeform well yes
14:49 asciilifeform but why.
14:49 mircea_popescu because they're about as bright as earthworms ?
14:49 mircea_popescu not nearly as energy efficient however.
14:51 mircea_popescu anyway. the girls wanna marry, the boys dun wanna live with the inlaws, the old folks don't want to move to the old folks' home at 44 (you should see a) how many of those they have here, must be over 5k distinct old folks homes and b) how many of these stupid cunts are saddled with 2-3 kids aged 20something and looking for a new mate. bitch, seriousy ? go suck your babby momma's cock, you're off the market) and the girls got
14:51 mircea_popescu the itch
14:51 mircea_popescu it's set to blow.
14:53 mircea_popescu oh : and soy is down in chicago, and is trending down, and the chinese announced they're dropping 20% of maize to plant more soy in mainland china.
14:54 mircea_popescu soy being the ~only serious product of the argentine. who seriously expects to live like europeans on the basis of farming.
14:54 asciilifeform not estrogenized yet?! lel
14:55 asciilifeform motherfucking bioweapon-masquerading-for-food
14:55 mircea_popescu who ? the chinese ? they're practically 1bn lesbians, are you kidding me ?
14:55 mircea_popescu half ever-so-slightly butcher than the other half.
14:55 asciilifeform well evidently not yet enough by their lights, if order is 'Moar Soy'
14:55 * mircea_popescu has not yet encountered chinese person he didn't feel he could snap in half and eat in one sitting.
14:56 asciilifeform these, supposedly, exist, but ~only in usa, fed on red meat..
14:56 mircea_popescu i guess they must.
14:56 asciilifeform iirc mats is one
14:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform oh were you asking who pays the rents ?
14:57 mircea_popescu working class argentines, principally, who live about 6-8 to a 500sqft apt.
14:58 asciilifeform aah
14:58 mircea_popescu these can be workers hoping to make it in the great urban village with its supposed "vida de noche" etc. they were defrauded.
14:58 mircea_popescu these can also be students hoping to acquire the official letters patent and become middle class
14:58 mircea_popescu they were also defrauded.
14:58 mircea_popescu the occasionally buyer of local cunt. these are oscillating between very amused and utterly infuriated.
15:00 mircea_popescu anyway, it's funny, you know, "why should i dump everything and worship the gringo ?" "because his women live two to the apartment rather than eight."
15:07 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: aye, i could do something like that.
15:08 ben_vulpes MORE WHIMSICAL NAMES? YES LETS
15:12 mircea_popescu lol.
15:13 mircea_popescu anyway, how's things states-side ? everyone bracing down for the inevitable bombing campaigns of the russian-iranian coallition joint "peacekeeping" missions once the democratically elected president is deposed by a military junta led by an ex-wife of an ex-president ?
15:13 asciilifeform lol if only
15:13 ben_vulpes we're all moving to bali
15:14 asciilifeform in reality - death by boredom.
15:14 mircea_popescu bali might not fit all of ye
15:14 asciilifeform mali - will fit.
15:14 mircea_popescu that yes
15:14 asciilifeform already fitted.
15:14 ben_vulpes it's a very small contingent.
15:16 mircea_popescu anyway, cnn trading places with al-jazeera to report supportively about wedding ceremonies "accidentally" bombed in santa barbara by a "stray" russian rocket would be something i'd even turn a tv set on for.
15:17 asciilifeform check back in 20y
15:17 mircea_popescu i dunno, things move fast in the reddit era.
15:18 asciilifeform only imaginary, massless particles.
15:23 mats asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/za8el/?raw=true and http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/05rky/?raw=true
15:23 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the best part about that package is that it actually sends (and delivers!) emails from arbitrary email address. i've been sending as hussein.bahamas@whitehouse.org without complaint, gmail inboxes, the works.
15:24 ben_vulpes dag
15:24 ben_vulpes really don't want to install mongo.
15:24 mircea_popescu cool factor > 9k
15:24 asciilifeform ty mats -- where were these from
15:24 asciilifeform ?
15:24 mircea_popescu you mean you don't have mongo installed ?!
15:24 ben_vulpes dog
15:24 ben_vulpes i have been trying to avoid importing the whole internet
15:24 mircea_popescu wtf where is the ben vulpes you know and what did you do to him
15:24 mircea_popescu we know*
15:25 * trinque grows suspicious
15:25 mircea_popescu THERE IS AN IMPOSTEUR IN OUR MIDSTS!
15:25 ben_vulpes listen just because people pay me to root around in cow pussy all day doesn't mean i do it in my free time
15:25 ben_vulpes i actually prefer humans
15:25 mircea_popescu in a shocking development
15:26 mats first is osx 10.11.6, second is opensuse 42.1
15:26 ben_vulpes no it's pretty funny, take a break from inseminating cows and mircea_popescu goes all "oh hey if you have a minute"
15:26 mircea_popescu lol
15:26 ben_vulpes "dis heifer"
15:27 mircea_popescu dats uddars!
15:27 ben_vulpes trinque: what do you do for emailz?
15:27 mircea_popescu ~anything, i hear.
15:27 mats is there a particular os you are trying to test?
15:27 trinque ben_vulpes: in what regard?
15:27 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: hyu
15:27 asciilifeform mats: no, or i would test it with own hands.
15:28 asciilifeform mats: just survey.
15:28 mircea_popescu mats coverage is good ; and these we didn't have.
15:28 ben_vulpes trinque: smtp i think
15:28 trinque postfix
15:28 ben_vulpes guess i'm learning how email works this weekend
15:28 mircea_popescu email doesn't work. next question.
15:28 trinque lel!
15:28 ben_vulpes inb4 'poorly'
15:28 ben_vulpes fuck!
15:28 mircea_popescu too slow, mongoboy!
15:29 ben_vulpes mongoman to you
15:29 mircea_popescu mongosir
15:29 ben_vulpes mongomanous
15:29 ben_vulpes living in mongnominy
15:29 mats it took a couple hours for both of these to run
15:29 asciilifeform mongoose..?
15:29 mircea_popescu verrrry sorrry to tell you sir here at trilema haus we all halal. no mongo at all!
15:29 mats meanwhile a debian and ubuntu machine is still cooking after 3 days
15:30 ben_vulpes my gentoo shitball has only cooked up 1.1M so far
15:31 ben_vulpes so i dunno, you'll get it in another month?
15:31 asciilifeform great, incidentally, pill against testability, this
15:31 mircea_popescu i like linux because it is more better cryptosecurelly.
15:31 asciilifeform laughably piddling bitrate
15:31 ben_vulpes fucking gross node.js and mongo and redis
15:31 asciilifeform go & try & get 1MB from /dev/random.
15:31 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i thought you two'd be buttbuddies when i ran into him. i'm genuinely surprised you don't already know each other.
15:32 asciilifeform the king and the donkey might die first.
15:32 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: hurtful
15:32 mircea_popescu well look on the bright side : now that you stepped away from it we can finally joke about it.
15:33 ben_vulpes i was never averse to joking about it before...
15:33 mircea_popescu not the same!
15:42 phf it was good timing switching to hand curated hosts file, because i've been informed whole of the internet is down or something
15:42 mircea_popescu lol
15:42 mircea_popescu STRATEGIC SUPERIORITY!
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16:38 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557575 << this is seriously intriguing framing. can't wait for trilema on the subj.
16:38 a111 Logged on 2016-10-21 00:47 mircea_popescu: anyway, if mining is a bug, then the philosopher king is a backdoor.
16:39 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-20#1556992 << you're the semen-covered winrar
16:39 a111 Logged on 2016-10-20 04:35 ben_vulpes: back up to 84 pete_dushenski
16:40 mircea_popescu eh ?
16:40 mircea_popescu what, this is not directly obvious ?
16:41 pete_dushenski even the obvious benefits from fleshed out blogs. see credit cards.
16:42 mircea_popescu mebbe, but i dun see this one coming. just look at history of previous russian empire ; first they had lenin, then they had stalin, then they had that idiot what's his name.
16:42 asciilifeform https://archive.is/e6Ips << for expert entomologists strictly.
16:43 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: the one with the mercedes. aha. or the one with the guitar bridge. either way.
16:45 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557946 << i thought 'cow pussy' was euphamism at first, likely for some kinda corvette-powered webdev. now not so sure. next bv will be writing manifesto from bulbless cabin a la kaczynski.
16:45 a111 Logged on 2016-10-21 19:25 ben_vulpes: listen just because people pay me to root around in cow pussy all day doesn't mean i do it in my free time
16:46 ben_vulpes hm?
16:46 pete_dushenski since we're doing entemology, this keeper's from the 'other' bitcoin news site : http://archive.is/HQM7m
16:48 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: are you a farm hand now or aren't you ?
16:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform basically a textbook example of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460246 . anything more ?
16:48 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 17:40 mircea_popescu: anyway, to bridge this discussion with the kaiser wilhelm "disappeared" daily telegraph interview discussed last week :
16:49 mircea_popescu other than yet another example of how utterly ridiculous yarvin looks
16:49 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: mnope.
16:50 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/Gth1m << "verifying identity", the fiat way.
16:50 asciilifeform wat
16:52 asciilifeform i thought this were a nigerian thing
16:52 mircea_popescu it is.
16:56 pete_dushenski those are some giant mitts
16:56 mircea_popescu guy has transformed into an almost perfect jewish caricature, it's uncanny.
16:56 mircea_popescu they're gonna start posting his outline in 4chan
16:56 pete_dushenski wasn't 8chan the kkk one ?
16:57 mircea_popescu i thought they all were.
16:57 pete_dushenski quite possibly
16:58 asciilifeform was good caricature in '08
16:58 asciilifeform (watched the film ?)
16:58 mircea_popescu which film ?
16:59 asciilifeform mr mold 'debating' some 'professor'.
16:59 mircea_popescu nah.
16:59 asciilifeform was terrible, nervous ticks, whole shebang
17:00 asciilifeform https://vimeo.com/9262193 << iirc, this.
17:01 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557933 << lel. tho mp@foib.org is pretty good too.
17:01 a111 Logged on 2016-10-21 19:23 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part about that package is that it actually sends (and delivers!) emails from arbitrary email address. i've been sending as hussein.bahamas@whitehouse.org without complaint, gmail inboxes, the works.
17:06 * mircea_popescu can't be arsed, but seriously, how hard is at least making an effort to appear human!
17:06 asciilifeform dunno, possibly this was even ~with~ effort.
17:06 asciilifeform picture - without.
17:07 phf he probably realized his position is not going to earn him any favours with the aparatchiks, so he's trying to morph himself into chomsky "what exactly ~is~ racism, khmmm mmm, seeee"
17:07 mircea_popescu i'm starting to understand why the various philipinos were so jizzed up over those videos of mine they fished up. "oh, ALL these dorks look like dorks so we can just pretend this guy does too!"
17:08 asciilifeform looking ridiculous is not imho a mortal sin, i also cannot claim to be great orator, or photomodel. but i never try to do these things, do not go around plastering self-portraits, or dance on stage.
17:08 mircea_popescu phf may be above his paygrade.
17:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's a difference between "not great orator&photomodel" and uncanny fucking valley, however.
17:10 asciilifeform phf: afaik d00d is one of thiel's court clowns, since '11 or so, and free to do mostly whatever he wants so long as it remains reasonably quiet.
17:10 asciilifeform yudkowsky-style charity-laundry.
17:11 mircea_popescu anyway, leaving appearance aside, his position is shockingly idiotic. on one hand he gives away the stuff that matters (yes, for god damn sure most of human population, of either sex, gender, race, ethnicity, whatever belongs in bondage. doh) in exchange for not exactly clearly what the fuck, not like rando progre attention whore is now going to be best pals with him and blow him.
17:11 mircea_popescu "oh, yarvin said he doesn't think blacks are born slaves ?!?! OMG WHERE DOES HE LIVE I WANNA DO A LOAD OF HIS LAUNDRY!!!"
17:13 asciilifeform in exchange, probably, for 'reasonably quiet'
17:14 mircea_popescu stupid deal.
17:14 mircea_popescu who wants to trade the undefined upside for a fixed payment ? fuck that, inverse insurance, really ?
17:14 phf asciilifeform: well, like mircea_popescu said above it's not about thiel, it's about whether or not he gets to hang out with rando progre attention whores. of course it doesn't work that way and i don't know why he would want to, but i wouldn't be surprised if in his mind it does. my impression is that he's visibly trying to morph from stormfront "must read litrecha" section to a kind of "let's discuss human nature, surely we all agree"
17:14 phf intelligentsia
17:15 asciilifeform probably
17:15 mircea_popescu but he doesn't have either the intellectual werewithal nor the knowledge base.
17:15 mircea_popescu it's the worst possible move.
17:16 mircea_popescu then again i guess humanity is principally defined by a propensity to make the worst possible move.
17:16 mircea_popescu hence the whole "nobody could have predicted" shtick.
17:16 asciilifeform btw stormfront on shortwave was pretty great.
17:16 mircea_popescu last time i listened to radio i was like 15.
17:16 asciilifeform (the talker died some years ago)
17:22 asciilifeform https://outernet.is/tech << entirely unrelated, and lulzy, and i do dare suspect that they read the l0gz
17:22 asciilifeform ^ arbitrary crud over satellite, but the receiver is the familiar rtl-sdr, that everyone already has.
17:23 asciilifeform http://destevez.net/2016/10/reverse-engineering-outernet-modulation-coding-and-framing << reversed.
17:24 mircea_popescu why do you think read logs ?
17:25 asciilifeform iirc we suggested this very method, at one time.
17:25 mircea_popescu ah
17:25 mircea_popescu not terribly counterintuitive is it ?
17:26 phf i figured out how archive.is is doing their archiving by the way, i'm taking a stab at implementing it
17:26 mircea_popescu prompted by all this discussion, i find "More recently, Land has been a primary theorist and the namer of the Dark Enlightenment, a neoreactionary movement that opposes egalitarianism.[5] The Dark Enlightenment supplies philosophical underpinnings to the alt-right.[6]"
17:26 mircea_popescu i had no idea ? we're not the only anti-egalitarians out there ?
17:27 mircea_popescu guy's blog is even active, apparently.
17:27 mircea_popescu !#s xenosystems.net
17:27 a111 12 results for "xenosystems.net", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=xenosystems.net
17:27 mircea_popescu bejaysus.
17:27 asciilifeform loads of these.
17:27 asciilifeform for years now.
17:27 asciilifeform oooold noose.
17:28 mircea_popescu o wait, we were actually linked at some point ?
17:28 mircea_popescu did anyone ever invite the fellow over ?
17:28 pete_dushenski http://archive.is/tqQBL << 'new yorker' soils pants in face of trump, tmsr, other t-words. blames nazis, obv. bit of a snore really.
17:28 * mircea_popescu would muchly appreciate a crash course in dark enligthement from the very horse's mouth.
17:29 asciilifeform iirc we tried to get the horse here
17:29 pete_dushenski http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-144/ << wherein pete is quoted on xenosystems
17:29 mircea_popescu a we did ?
17:33 pete_dushenski a 'dark enlightenment' character by the name of 'alrenous' also found his way to the contravex comments for a while. bought a year-and-a-half ago now. decent enough to carry a convo but hardly limitless depth there.
17:35 mircea_popescu phf that's pretty major. how does he do it then ?
17:37 pete_dushenski s/bought/bout. lol.
17:37 pete_dushenski bbias
17:42 phf they are using Qt webkit integration, either through a hacked up version of phantomjs, or something handwritten. there's enough hooks in qt, that you can figure out what was loaded, where it got stored in local cache and where it's being used.
17:42 mircea_popescu hm
17:45 phf phantomjs out of the box is almost there, except it doesn't give you locations to where page dependencies were stored in local cache. but the approach ensures that anything that can be rendered using a modern browser can also be archived
17:46 mircea_popescu "Victorious third world struggles, so long as they have been successfully localized, do not lead to realistic post-capitalist achievements, and certainly not to post-patriarchal ones, since the conversation of the form of the nation state is itself enough to guarantee the reinsertion of a society into the system of inhibited synthesis. For as long as the dynamic of guerrilla war just leads to new men at the top . . . History
17:46 mircea_popescu will continue to look bleak. For it is only when the pervasive historical bond between masculinity and war is broken by effective feminist violence that it will become possible to envisage the uprooting of the patriarchal endogamies that orchestrate the contemporary world order . . . But the only conceivable end of Kantianism is the end of modernity, and to reach this must foster new Amazons in our midst"
17:47 mircea_popescu and suddenly /me is very disinterested in nick land's ideas.
17:47 mircea_popescu http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Nick%20Land/%281988%29%20LAND%20--%20Kant_%20Capital_%20and%20the%20Prohibition%20of%20Incest.pdf << sauce if anyone gives a shit. in pdf because ofcourse.
17:51 ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/the-feds-wont-buy-this-19-million-stealth-boat-or-let-it-be-sold-abroad << lulzy tech interdiction
17:51 ben_vulpes clever little design
17:51 mircea_popescu and it's not expropriation because reasons.
17:51 mircea_popescu of the us courtly sort.
17:52 ben_vulpes the kind where they take a thing but can't use it
17:53 ben_vulpes stealth boat? really?
17:57 asciilifeform eh it's old hat in the 'wetlands' racket
17:57 asciilifeform as described by uncle al
17:57 asciilifeform 'this land is yours but if you build anything - jail'
17:57 BingoBoingo !~bcstats
17:57 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 435318 | Current Difficulty: 2.5852274840451544E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 435455 | Next Difficulty In: 137 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 21 hours, 4 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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18:17 ben_vulpes http://portland-shopping-list.shithouse.tv/
18:18 phf i thought dark enlightenment completely discredited itself, by trying to julius evola while neckbeard
18:19 phf i was certain we had a thread..
18:30 pete_dushenski !#s cathedral
18:30 a111 33 results for "cathedral", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=cathedral
18:34 shinohai http://archive.is/XXGCQ <<< PLZ give out btc bac kthanx
18:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: We may have invitit a few of them, but they seem to spring up like weeds
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19:04 ben_vulpes oh good
19:06 BingoBoingo niggers.txt
~ 17 minutes ~
19:24 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2016/10/21/is-so-unfair-cycle-3/ << Bingo Blog - Is So Unfair Cycle 3
19:25 * pete_dushenski off to a retreat for teh weekend. no cell reception. no net connex.
19:25 BingoBoingo But pete_dushenski will then miss the fanfic while it is fresh!
~ 47 minutes ~
20:13 shinohai http://archive.is/eRnEY <<< damned expensive beer at $125 per 12 pack
20:14 shinohai !~calc 90000 / 719
20:14 jhvh1 shinohai: 90000 / 719 = 125.17385257301808
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20:30 mircea_popescu !#s julius evola
20:30 a111 2 results for "julius evola", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=julius%20evola
20:30 mircea_popescu ahem
20:30 asciilifeform !#s evola
20:30 a111 21 results for "evola", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=evola
20:31 mircea_popescu all i see is a bunch of outsiders trying to impress with their reading.
20:31 asciilifeform dunno that we have any evola fans present.
20:32 phf ag3nt_zer0 was one
20:33 mircea_popescu shinohai ok that bitfinex stuff is hysterical.
20:34 shinohai ikr
20:34 * mircea_popescu recalls the not so distant days a coupla years ago when these imbeciles were masquerading as bidnismen with suits and secretaries and who is mp./
20:34 asciilifeform wait, they stopped?!
20:34 mircea_popescu heh.
20:34 shinohai I guess the token scheme isn't working as planned.
~ 19 minutes ~
20:54 shinohai I should have qntra'd that story just for the title "Bitfinex Begs Burgler for Bitcoins Back"
20:54 mircea_popescu for srs
20:54 mircea_popescu possibly not to late still
21:01 mircea_popescu anyone can explain how the cryptoart "purveroys of fine art papeer wallets" can afford to blow what looks like a >10k budget on google advertising ?
21:02 mircea_popescu this is the first time i hear of non-starving yet un-famous graphical artists doing a lot of quality work for no upfront fee of their own, anarcho-syndicalist volition.
21:02 mircea_popescu it's fucking absurd.
21:03 mircea_popescu and in other lolz, https://archive.is/xcL5b
21:04 mircea_popescu "Donald Trump gained on Hillary Clinton among American voters this week, cutting her lead nearly in half despite a string of women accusing him of unwanted sexual advances and the furor over his disputed claims that the election process is rigged, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday."
21:04 mircea_popescu aka deese putins dun understand how teh our democracy works!
21:04 asciilifeform eh they print these to revv up turnout for the kpussa.
21:04 asciilifeform 'oh noez we might luuus'
21:05 mircea_popescu lol.
21:05 mircea_popescu teh libertards are basically playing twister in the "situation room"
21:06 mircea_popescu 63% think he raped someone at some point ; 62% want him to be president. presumably the missing 1% doesn't like the dearth of pics ?
21:07 asciilifeform https://archive.is/mNVrl << related lultron from same rag
21:08 asciilifeform 'he worries that the lack of trust is dangerous. It is one thing to not trust government, but quite another to doubt the election process. “Then the entire premise of democracy comes into question,” she said.'
21:08 mircea_popescu aha
21:08 asciilifeform oh noez, DOUBT!?!!!!!
21:08 mircea_popescu i'm telling you, russian-iranian peacekeeping coalition
21:08 mircea_popescu coming to a walmart near you this winter.
21:08 asciilifeform zimbabwean-malian coalition.
21:09 mircea_popescu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/10/21/111701348_Hillary_Trump_top_foreign-large_trans++faglMYeke2FdVtM7pecRgqZZ4XO6YMBIM0m8aUTtExs.jpg << dude who the everloving fuck lives like this ?!
21:09 asciilifeform this is rather like trying to guess which fungus will eat an aids sufferer.
21:09 asciilifeform could be any fungus, but fungi dun eat healthy folk.
21:09 mircea_popescu "powerful rich important people" leat 2010 are such a fucking joke.
21:10 asciilifeform who the fuck is that in the middle, cardinal richelieu ?
21:11 asciilifeform or... a _trans++fagl ??
21:11 mircea_popescu new york cardinal dolan
21:11 mircea_popescu a very jolly fellow irl, no idea why he looks so forced-laughing there.
21:15 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/v0oil/?raw=true plox to use title "Bitfinex Begs Burgler for Bitcoins Back" if published thx
21:15 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
21:16 mircea_popescu (the pic is from the al smith diner, yest. this is a derpy thing trying to get the candidates to roast each other for catholic charities. ny libertard "elites" are very excited today about the fact that trump walked in not giving the slightest shit about their mores, and eschewed what in manhattan passes for "humour", aka http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/
21:16 mircea_popescu )
21:29 shinohai So it appears the Russian Foreign Affairs Website was sorta hacked by the jester.
21:43 mircea_popescu it's fucking incredible just how bad trump's speech writer was, by the way. dude's a reality tv star, like that jenner chick or whatever, you'd expect he'd come prepared to kill it.
21:47 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/WHfpe << clinton oligarch branson testifies as to which hand feeds him.
21:54 mircea_popescu omyfucking god he wrote it on his own.
21:56 mircea_popescu so 70yo dude who's always, though thick and thin and half a dozen bankruptcies, ever since he was a wee tyke and his dad had to cosign his deals, aspired to be part of the you know, new york moneyed elite finally goes to the al smith diner. and gets to seat on the dais. and you know, he prepares for this. his speech, his own speech.
21:56 mircea_popescu and it's miserable.
21:57 mircea_popescu thursday's the night trump became a tragic figure.
21:57 * shinohai plays tiny violin for Trump
22:04 mircea_popescu mindblowing.
~ 1 hours 14 minutes ~
23:19 BingoBoingo shinohai: the tag is blockquote, not block
23:23 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/10/buggered-bitfinex-begs-burgler-for-bitcoins-back/ << Qntra - Buggered Bitfinex Begs Burgler For Bitcoins Back
~ 35 minutes ~
23:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5A35236F137FD211F772259BD5287EDE9AA09CD8A275F881C74BD97AB8BD0545 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 99319465194670868101345891624117322377222977433808483462332438176091472945093 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.3.189 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.3.189 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.3.189@mkj.lt>;
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