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00:00 kakobrekla sorta old (4 days)
00:00 * BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket
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00:00 BingoBoingo <kakobrekla> sorta old (4 days) << <kakobrekla> sorta old (4 days)
00:00 BingoBoingo ^http://qntra.net/2016/03/ransomware-comes-to-osx-bittorrent-client/
00:00 BingoBoingo sorry
00:01 kakobrekla ah
00:01 kakobrekla my bad.
00:01 BingoBoingo it happens
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02:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00052317 = 2.3804 BTC [-]
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02:27 ben_vulpes phf: whatsat, forest park?
02:28 ben_vulpes also dood wtf you stop in the city, swing through powells, and can't go 2 mi out of the way to get your eyes on my fp and mine on yours?
02:29 ben_vulpes woulda taken all of ten minutes to swing through the office and you'd have left with at least three bottles of literally unprocureable elsewhere dundee wines
02:30 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 10.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b35
02:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052266 = 2.8746 BTC [-] {2}
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05:04 shinohai ;;ticker --market all
05:04 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 421.9, vol: 6283.83820480 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 421.0, vol: 6771.87737 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 423.58, vol: 18864.3173366 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 1.67574497 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 426.80832, vol: 45131.61010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 421.521, vol: 3283.97378095 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 426.08604, vol: 67.71487241 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
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05:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00052266 = 1.5941 BTC [-]
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07:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.00052795 = 16.3928 BTC [+] {7}
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07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7884 @ 0.00052266 = 4.1207 BTC [-]
07:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00052961 = 1.7742 BTC [+] {2}
07:32 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/U2jiFxh.jpg <<< lel
07:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QMeOxA )
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08:00 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430316 << they're doing the same in argentina, all the bored she-derps in the press and media generally feel ever so threatened by him.
08:00 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 04:57:03; cazalla: re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus
08:00 mircea_popescu they had bought into the ustard liberal nonsense, how is this possibru! church of clinton&hussein, best in world!
08:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00052266 = 3.0837 BTC [-] {2}
08:01 mircea_popescu #nounamenos!11
08:02 mircea_popescu oh oops, i think it's spelled #quantanamena or something.
08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23826 @ 0.00052228 = 12.4438 BTC [-] {4}
08:04 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430320 << nah, he's winning on third party and buries gop 4evar.
08:04 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 05:00:18; *: BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket
08:04 mircea_popescu best lulz outcome.
08:04 mircea_popescu if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters.
08:05 mircea_popescu ;;ud fp
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08:05 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FP&defid=1022662 | FP. F.P. or Fag Potential is a person whos sexuality is doubtfull; somone who can be straight but in his actions/clothing/talking/mannerisms can act gay. Gaylord: ...
08:05 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ?
08:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.000522 = 5.5593 BTC [-] {4}
08:09 mircea_popescu and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
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08:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 )
08:10 PeterL hey, some of my work got cited in the WSJ: http://archive.is/BUGGs
08:10 assbot Laundry Detergent From Jessica Alba’s Honest Co. Contains Ingredient It Pledged to Avoid - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQwMp )
08:10 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369 <<< it's surprisingly easy to get these from any docs office on unsecured lan xD
08:10 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
08:11 mircea_popescu ajhaha nice PeterL
08:12 mircea_popescu care to make a brief qntra ? it's lulzy enough i think
08:12 shinohai #fail (-_-\)
08:12 PeterL Sure, I could put something together
08:13 PeterL can I add more quotes from me, they only quoted my coworker in the article?
08:13 mircea_popescu which is you, impact analyutical ?
08:13 PeterL yep
08:13 mircea_popescu you can add whatever you want, your article.
08:13 PeterL aha
08:14 mircea_popescu personal authority, it's a thing. you were there, you saw it, as long as you're willing to swear to it, that'\s what it is.
08:14 mircea_popescu who dun like it can swear to something else.
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08:15 shinohai worked for the parents who swore maple syrup trumps science.
08:16 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430262 << i was moved to this chimp reservation as 9yo, this was in old thread, aha
08:16 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 04:33:35; mircea_popescu: wait, you lived there whole lyf ?!
08:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is unsanitary. "live in most of the world" is CERTAINLY a step in making mps.
08:17 asciilifeform got net pipe soon after, grew up malignantly asocial
08:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that would need MONEY
08:17 mircea_popescu this may be a crippling impediment in children, but it is not in adults. i had a girl like that, she was ordered to pick up girls in the street every day. and she did. and it went away.
08:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform money, my dear alf, is by and large a crutch. if you need money to make friends the problem's not the money.
08:18 asciilifeform anyway i'm certainly no mircea_popescu , just a half-man chimeric dr mengele creation.
08:18 asciilifeform gurlz are programmable.
08:19 mircea_popescu and what, your own head is bad chinese fpga and you misplaced teh keys ?
08:20 asciilifeform antifuse.
08:20 mircea_popescu you know, it's funny
08:20 mircea_popescu that's what the gurlz think, also.
08:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5326 @ 0.00052495 = 2.7959 BTC [+] {3}
08:23 asciilifeform nobody rechips male nobodies under microscope, harem is an asymmetrical thing
08:23 asciilifeform if your ballz are still attached - yer on your own.
08:24 asciilifeform fwiw.
08:25 mircea_popescu there is that.
08:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is an upside to the 24years of kolyma. i dun think anyone alive hates this place, as ~accurately~ and deeply as i do.
08:26 asciilifeform i hate every speck of dust on every pavement tile.
08:27 mircea_popescu lol so what, gonna move into poetry ?
08:28 asciilifeform just to point out.
08:29 asciilifeform !s http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
08:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 )
08:29 assbot 0 results for 'http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
08:29 asciilifeform wat?!
08:30 asciilifeform 2 just today
08:30 asciilifeform but i was quite certain we had it before, in december maybe
08:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9963 @ 0.00052405 = 5.2211 BTC [-] {2}
08:31 asciilifeform i still have nfi how #b-a search actually worx, it certainly is not grep-compat.
08:32 mircea_popescu uh
08:32 mircea_popescu wut ?
08:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369
08:34 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
08:34 mircea_popescu hm was before ?
08:35 asciilifeform i thought so.
08:35 mircea_popescu hm... i just grepped log ? nope ?
08:35 mircea_popescu are you confusing ukr blondy for another ukr blondy perhaps ?
08:36 mircea_popescu or maybe different teeny slut wore the same buttstring to teh beach.
08:37 asciilifeform with anatomy school backdrop
08:37 asciilifeform definitely had that before
08:38 mircea_popescu ah, that yes.
08:38 mircea_popescu same studio, wadda ya want, new scenography ?
08:38 mircea_popescu new coat of wallpaint costs 10x more than new girls.
08:39 asciilifeform l0l
08:39 mircea_popescu and EVEN SO human reproduction is overly expensive
08:39 mircea_popescu in biologic terms.
08:40 asciilifeform even more expensive if you reintroduce QA as per yesterday thread !111
08:40 mircea_popescu aha.
08:41 asciilifeform '...for your convenience we have packaged the defective 8% of transistors you asked for, separately!' (tm) (r)
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08:41 mircea_popescu depends to. the problem here is that high value males are interested in owning females, not interested in producing litter. consequently, western world has fertility crisis.
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08:41 mircea_popescu if society were actually sane, i'd prolly reproduce, so the cost issue is iffy.
08:42 asciilifeform ~nobody cares to breed muppets for hitler's army.
08:42 mircea_popescu quite.
08:43 mircea_popescu even without shoehorning "hitler" in here, the only sane way reproduction works is that i have life and death power over any offspring until they go on their own.
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08:43 asciilifeform aha!
08:43 mircea_popescu then the female drive to reproduce is finally balanced, and i frankly wouldn't care if they want or don't want to get pregnant, make your own choices.
08:43 asciilifeform recall the thread we had when i was at c3.
08:44 mircea_popescu vaguely, which ?
08:46 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-04-2015#1106799
08:46 assbot Logged on 22-04-2015 03:59:18; ascii_lander: i would like the ability to shoot them, for example, at any age
08:47 mircea_popescu possibly shooting no good. you wanna kill it, you gotta strangle it. stab it. something.
08:47 mircea_popescu shooting's too clean.
08:47 asciilifeform drown. traditinal!
08:48 asciilifeform !s dumplings
08:48 assbot 20 results for 'dumplings' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dumplings
08:48 mircea_popescu i guess.
08:48 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509010
08:48 assbot Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
08:51 asciilifeform as it is i'd rather eat nagant.
08:52 asciilifeform for offspring you need sane world + economic surplus (at least at the not-being-in-labour-camp level)
08:53 mircea_popescu demographically it's rather lulzy, tho. take europe : it went through three to twelve generations of this negative selection, 0 reproduction from higher value individuals, depending how you count the generations. and, woe of woes : BEFORE, the better tatars came raiding, and raped. so it fixed things, for a century or two.
08:53 asciilifeform or, alternatively, being stray dog who doesnt giveafuq
08:53 mircea_popescu but now, the higher value arabs are ALSO sitting home with the bitches, and sending the runts over.
08:53 mircea_popescu there is ~no way europe doesn't turn into africa.
08:54 mircea_popescu it's like, "take the lowest quartile of this population, let it reproduce with the lower quartile of that population, see what you get"
08:54 mircea_popescu i dunno, flying mice ?
08:54 asciilifeform subsahara aha
08:54 asciilifeform coming soon to an africa near you.
08:56 mircea_popescu that's the thing various derps dun wanna say. sure, numerically, 500mn europe, what does it care about 5mn immigrants.
08:56 asciilifeform 5mn snackbat cox tho
08:56 asciilifeform snackbar
08:56 mircea_popescu well, it cares, because that 500mn europe has a 1.x children per woman, and 90% of them are made with idiots, and the 5mn are... also idiots. once you start looking at the actual demographic breakdown, it couldn't really take 50k of the derps.
08:57 asciilifeform incidentally i wonder if tatar rape therapy even works any moar - many (most?) of the prospective 'patients' take steroidal bc pill...
08:57 mircea_popescu wouldn't work, no.
08:57 asciilifeform so then.
08:57 mircea_popescu what, you were under the impression i was proposing solutions ?
08:58 mircea_popescu i'm just explaining why i'd rather kandahar than holland is all.
08:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-11-2015#1324872 << thread
08:59 assbot Logged on 15-11-2015 16:37:59; mircea_popescu: and em-poor-en.
08:59 asciilifeform nah they do solutions in the solution house.
08:59 asciilifeform on mars.
08:59 asciilifeform here on earth we do: problemz
08:59 mircea_popescu 2015 europe had 5mn live births. selected for suckage. add 5mn from outside, idem selected, suddenly it looks like it is.
09:00 * asciilifeform bbl, mounting stake
09:00 mircea_popescu and mind you, the idiocy is quite infectious. they way they state it is that "eu-28 showed signs of increasing fertility but the trend reversed".
09:00 mircea_popescu irl, "romania, poland et all didn't have the problem - until they joined eu".
09:01 mircea_popescu because yes, romania poland et all did have a sort-of, "i made you an' ima kill you, now go learn that fucking multiplication table". again, until "aquis"
09:01 mircea_popescu they say it in latin, too, as if that makes eau d'idiot something valuable now.
09:01 mircea_popescu the "aquis", the codified idiocy we've slowly coallesced into gallows.
09:02 mircea_popescu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11414064/How-Europe-is-slowly-dying-despite-an-increasing-world-population.html << great map there. who doesn't have the problem ? oh, the uk, because
09:02 assbot How Europe is slowly dying despite an increasing world population - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWxI4q )
09:02 mircea_popescu !s rotherham
09:02 assbot 15 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham
09:02 mircea_popescu and france. because hey, same deal, no press.
09:09 mircea_popescu i thought i had written up irreversible, but apparently not ? anyway, http://hollywoodabuse.com/monica-belluccis-anal-rape-scene/
09:09 assbot Monica Bellucci’s anal rape scene ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhYXXW )
09:10 mircea_popescu that poor woman, she's done no film without a rape scene in it. if there ever was an actor that actually answered to the higher call of the profession, it's probably her. and yet people will readily ignore the point and focus on anything and everything, "hey, random stupid broad with nothing to say wants us to buy detergent!"
09:11 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430155 << i used to be this way too
09:11 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 03:25:36; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430137 << getting out of bed every day is a fucking compromise for me.
09:12 nubbins` i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day
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09:17 PeterL BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46717797-1efb-4cde-bd4c-a6674a46e32a/?raw=true
09:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWzfaS )
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09:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00052545 = 3.8358 BTC [+]
09:41 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430365 << mega-l0l!!!
09:41 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 13:05:46; mircea_popescu: ;;ud fp
09:41 danielpbarron i assume he meant fingerprint, as in the gpg variety
09:43 mircea_popescu hehe
09:51 PeterL mircea_popescu re:map of birthrates, any explanation for why thailand is so low? the other low places are japan and europe, which have been developed for a while, thailand seems an outlier
09:53 mircea_popescu i'm entirely unsure. ladyboys ?
09:54 mircea_popescu thailand is a pretty interesting case - back in the 90s it seemed very well positioned to become a tech superpower. then... fizzled, somehow. korea won.
09:55 PeterL could also just be where they put the cutoff for the colors, thailand barely makes the bottom category, US and canada are barely into the next color
09:55 thestringpuller eventually birthrate -> 0 and we have children of men?
10:03 mircea_popescu PeterL aha.
10:04 mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, eventually birthrate -> .5 and we forgot this particular hittite empire ever existed, just like all the other ones.
10:04 mircea_popescu not like it made anything that'd be remembered once it stops paying for the service.
10:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00052652 = 3.3434 BTC [+] {2}
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10:56 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ?
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10:56 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 14:12:45; nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day
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11:20 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b39
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12:20 kakobrekla http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/40505.html
12:20 assbot mjg59 | I stayed in a hotel with Android lightswitches and it was just as bad as you'd imagine ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWTgxS )
12:22 shinohai why does lightswitch need to know whoami ?
12:25 PeterL shinohai so they can display personalized ads all around you
12:26 thestringpuller haha!
12:28 shinohai adblock for lightswitches and toasters.
12:32 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5%
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12:42 shinohai https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/708289009873784832
12:44 PeterL In Mich if you are on a primary ballot, you cannot be listed as an independent or other party for the general, I had to write in Gary Johnson in 2012
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00053028 = 4.2953 BTC [+] {2}
13:01 trinque http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/10/apple-fbi-could-force-us-to-turn-on-iphone-cameras-microphones << check out Apple dropping hints
13:01 assbot FBI could force us to turn on iPhone cameras and microphones, says Apple | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1pkIQyn )
13:01 trinque could my ass
13:01 asciilifeform 'nsa could force us to capture packets' -- at&t
13:01 trinque so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP
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13:02 asciilifeform 'farmer could force us to live in own shit' -- pigs
13:02 asciilifeform 'shit could force us to eat it' -- fly
13:02 trinque lol
13:02 PeterL asciilifeform re:quiet computer, have you considered having big computer in basement, using a chrombox-like thing as a silent terminal?
13:03 asciilifeform PeterL: i have no basement.
13:03 PeterL well, closet far from chair?
13:03 asciilifeform or i'd have run dvi-over-fiber long ago
13:04 PeterL attic?
13:04 asciilifeform i don't have a proper place for this.
13:04 asciilifeform at all.
13:04 asciilifeform attic is not hermetically sealed.
13:04 asciilifeform very high humidity there, year round.
13:04 asciilifeform and megatonnes of dirt blowing in.
13:04 PeterL I guess this just goes back to thread on "your rent (per sqft) is too damn high"
13:05 asciilifeform this is only half the story
13:05 asciilifeform in places where it is lower, the pay is ALSO lowe.
13:05 asciilifeform r
13:06 asciilifeform and outside of MAJOR population centers, there is ZERO work for folks like me.
13:07 asciilifeform but to go back to the question, it is a ludicrous 'dirigible' solution
13:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00053052 = 6.3397 BTC [+] {2}
13:08 asciilifeform a machined copper heat sink might be costly,
13:08 asciilifeform but at least it would not be a RECURRING cost.
13:08 asciilifeform INTO ETERNITY
13:08 asciilifeform wtf.
13:08 asciilifeform why the fuck would i rent a gigantic mansion just to silence computer.
13:08 asciilifeform why not put it in an airplane then.
13:10 asciilifeform yes, possibly mircea_popescu's pc is in orbit.
13:10 asciilifeform and the terminal - is kept in a slavegurl's arse.
13:10 asciilifeform but this is not a useful recipe to me.
13:10 jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429762 whole discussion reminded me of shit i heard several times "this linux admin we had was always tinkering with the server and there was always something broken. we switched to windows server with IIS and all is swell now!"
13:10 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 00:10:56; asciilifeform: no one wants to LIVE badly enough
13:11 asciilifeform why not put out their eyes.
13:11 asciilifeform so they can see even less broken !
13:11 asciilifeform !s room would be empty
13:11 assbot 3 results for 'room would be empty' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=room+would+be+empty
13:13 deedbot- [Qntra] "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks - http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/
13:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00052583 = 2.4188 BTC [-] {2}
13:29 jurov I don't like laureate-contining stuff because it's hard to wash off.
13:30 BingoBoingo I'm indifferent to it
13:30 jurov And when i do repeat and wash it off, the skin is left completely stripped of fat film, which is not healthy.
13:32 BingoBoingo Aha, this is why it can be an irritant
13:32 jurov well, i know people "indifferent to it" the developed hand eczemas after 20y of using it.
13:32 jurov *then
13:33 jurov oh, it is irritant if you get it into the eyes
13:33 BingoBoingo Skin's a tricky thing
13:33 BingoBoingo But yeah, eyes really need their film
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00052583 = 1.0496 BTC [-]
13:39 * BingoBoingo doesn't understand what was so wrong about lye soap
13:41 asciilifeform so ~that's~ what was in evil soap
13:42 asciilifeform i have a list of soaps that ughh won'twashoff
13:42 asciilifeform not to ever buy.
13:44 BingoBoingo Yes, it is in all of the evil soaps
13:45 asciilifeform at least room temperature cheese one will never buy by chance.
13:52 BingoBoingo But detergent pretending to be honest soap hides well
13:52 BingoBoingo until wet
13:54 BingoBoingo !up pigeons
13:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00052582 = 5.6789 BTC [-] {3}
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0005263 = 4.6578 BTC [+]
14:09 BingoBoingo Won a "comedy hack day" prize https://archive.is/9ZwAW
14:09 assbot New App Splits Meal Bills So White Males Pay Extra for Their Privilege | Alternet ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH5pcg )
14:10 pete_dushenski l0l
14:11 pete_dushenski i guess from now on massa is just gonna pick up the tab for his slaves
14:13 pete_dushenski https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600980/a-bitcoin-style-currency-for-central-banks/ << prb-fork contender
14:13 assbot A Bitcoin-Style Currency for Central Banks ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH6gKf )
14:15 pete_dushenski http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/G.Danezis/papers/ndss16currencies.pdf << related lolpaper
14:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QN7tO4 )
14:15 fluffypony https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/47z1xd/in_the_future_will_we_be_using_ethereumlike/d0gf65j
14:16 assbot vbuterin comments on In the future, will we be using Ethereum-like (& slock.it like) tech to document consensual sexual intercourse? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QN7uln )
14:17 pete_dushenski da fuck is '$xxx' gonna do to raise a child ?
14:18 jurov didn't he go further? like, upload your genome to eth, and let it procreate
14:18 fluffypony I have no words
14:19 trinque "A small collection of third-party organizations would be chosen by the central bank to process new transactions and submit them for inclusion in the central ledger." << >> http://biblehub.com/revelation/13-16.htm
14:19 assbot Revelation 13:16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH7Co9 )
14:19 trinque not that I'm religious.
14:22 pete_dushenski like ash wednesday, every day
14:26 pete_dushenski "Billionaire investor and Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel tells Fortune that he thinks that Palantir's data software can actually help end ubiquitous surveillance by showing agencies like the NSA exactly who's up to no good, so they can leave everybody else alone." << fuck thiel with alf's telephone pole-sized stake. who is dumb enough to believe that this is how ~anything~ works ?
14:27 pete_dushenski specifically, that the nsa doesn't leave ~everyone alone as a matter of practical necessity ?
14:30 thestringpuller this ties into Big Data "alchemist's AI" discussion
14:31 pete_dushenski and, hell, alphago
14:32 thestringpuller meh. being a huge fan of AI, I understand the harware yet exists to create more formative models of "intelligence"
14:32 thestringpuller the next best thing is data mining and running it through "machine learning" to create models.
14:33 thestringpuller Pure unsupervised learning I don't think is possible which I guess ascii and I both yearn for...
14:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7792 @ 0.00052898 = 4.1218 BTC [+] {4}
14:37 pete_dushenski http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-blockchain-summit-with-richard-branson-on-necker-island << for enteblockchainologists only
14:37 assbot My Wet and Wild Bitcoin Weekend On Richard Branson's Island Refuge | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1YHbuFI )
14:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7876 @ 0.0005257 = 4.1404 BTC [-] {2}
14:39 asciilifeform wats with all the redditesque crud.
14:39 asciilifeform snore.
14:39 * asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any
14:40 pete_dushenski well, you have a stake to sit on, neh ?
14:40 pete_dushenski reddit is like a pseudo-stake for people who don't otherwise have one, but care to dip their toes in now and again
14:41 asciilifeform that would make sense if it paid people
14:41 pete_dushenski people don't need to be paid. pee-ple. not redditards, now.
14:42 pete_dushenski or people need to be paid but it's not stake-bad
14:44 asciilifeform what i mean is, i shovel boring crud for money.
14:44 asciilifeform but i can't fathom why to do it voluntarily.
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15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4324 @ 0.00053038 = 2.2934 BTC [+]
15:07 thestringpuller "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department
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15:08 trinque sounds like a great tradition in the making
15:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11968 @ 0.00052545 = 6.2886 BTC [-]
15:16 jurov thestringpuller: propose topless days
15:17 pete_dushenski for the men only
15:17 jurov !t m x.eur
15:17 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00263 / 0.00295359 / 0.00304264 (264 shares, 0.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00254491 / 0.00280379 / 0.00370358 (3016 shares, 8.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00253517 / 0.00275579 / 0.00370358 (11971 shares, 32.99 BTC)
15:18 jurov ;;calc 1/0.00295359
15:18 gribble 338.571027123
15:18 jurov should i call this bull or bear?
15:18 pete_dushenski depends how hairy
15:18 jurov or call davout?
15:18 asciilifeform <+jurov> should i call this bull or bear? << boar.
15:19 jurov ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
15:19 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 376.79, Best ask: 380.99, Bid-ask spread: 4.20000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 39.71691309, 24 hour low: 371.4, 24 hour high: 383.98, 24 hour vwap: 379.89636294
15:19 jurov ^ just to make sense to logreaders
15:23 jurov http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-10/incredible-story-how-hackers-stole-100-million-new-york-fed << what should alf be doing instead
15:23 assbot The Incredible Story Of How Hackers Stole $100 Million From The New York Fed | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVodlf )
15:23 jurov he would surely not misspell "foundation" as "fandation"
15:25 jurov Well, as it turns out, Bangladesh doesn't agree that the Fed isn't ultimately culpable. "We kept money with the Federal Reserve Bank and irregularities must be with the people who handle the funds there," Finance Minister Abul Maal Abdul Muhith said on Wednesday.
15:25 jurov irregularities ftw!
15:28 jurov like, some irregularities must have been with mircea_popescu when he went to experiment with bitbet funds
15:32 asciilifeform jurov: idiotic article. as if nobodies could move 100m wherever.
15:32 BingoBoingo http://i.imgur.com/a7wNwql.png
15:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UZ4FPG )
15:34 jurov asciilifeform: you don't like to see the beast bleed?
15:34 jurov and why do you think this did not happen?
15:34 asciilifeform jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right.
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15:35 asciilifeform let's even assume, charitably , that there WAS a theft.
15:35 asciilifeform instead of simple launder by usg.
15:35 BingoBoingo Maybe beast did bleed, but alf is just in wrong swamp to take delivery of blood?
15:35 asciilifeform if you HAVE A PLACE TO PUT stolen electric fiat,
15:35 asciilifeform YOU ARE WELL CONNECTED.
15:35 asciilifeform what part of this is hard to understand ?
15:36 jurov well, the image mircea projects is such that he *would* be able to provide you with account numbers on asking
15:37 jurov so, imo worth trying
15:37 asciilifeform fiat isn't btc, nobody walks away with irretrievable 100m.
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15:38 asciilifeform nor is it ever a permanent mystery which door to break down.
15:38 jurov you don't need 100m, i hope
15:38 asciilifeform nor is any organization ever seriously pwned except via substantial humint component.
15:39 jurov such as.. guessing the right email addresses when sending transfer requests?
15:39 asciilifeform jurov: if i knew how to rob hitler, i wouldn't be poor.
15:39 asciilifeform what, you think my conscience would torture me ?
15:40 jurov i have no idea what to think
15:40 jurov wrt you
15:40 jurov you seem to be in war, but with utterly impenetrable and undefinable entity
15:41 asciilifeform why not clean out the fuhrer's pockets yourself, if you think you know how...
15:41 jurov i am not in war
15:42 trinque eh lacking the infrastructure to protect oneself this is not a heist worth pulling
15:42 trinque and that's not something you JIT after having done so
15:42 asciilifeform jurov: you may not be interested in the war, but, to borrow from trotsky, 'the war is quite interested in you'
15:44 jurov i am interested but so far i have not noticed anything beyond derping noise
15:46 asciilifeform ...?
15:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00052946 = 3.7062 BTC [+]
15:47 jurov i have not seen anything that can't be explained by gross incompetence
15:48 asciilifeform srsly?!
15:48 jurov srsly.
15:48 asciilifeform the phork warz, mean nothing to jurov ?
15:49 asciilifeform hearn is just an incompetent ?
15:49 asciilifeform gavin meant well?!
15:49 asciilifeform what is this.
15:49 trinque he just had lunch buddies at the cia
15:50 jurov they are just another derps
15:51 asciilifeform j. dimon is also an innocent fool?
15:51 asciilifeform jurov is on lsd ?
15:51 jurov who is dimon?
15:52 asciilifeform !s dimon
15:52 assbot 22 results for 'dimon' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dimon
15:54 jurov what about genjix? he was on TV, must be teh enemy!!!
15:54 asciilifeform and waterfall never happened, aha
15:54 asciilifeform and no one deletes tmsr material from reddit, and hn
15:54 asciilifeform and no one stole mircea_popescu's servers.
15:55 asciilifeform and no one power cycled phuctor.
15:55 asciilifeform etc.
15:55 asciilifeform ahahahaha.
15:55 asciilifeform jurov talk to your lsd supplier plox.
15:55 asciilifeform he is giving you impure material.
15:57 asciilifeform and of course nobody http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-02-2016#1396681
15:57 assbot Logged on 04-02-2016 20:42:54; ascii_butugychag: or the derp who called me on the disconnected phone?
15:58 asciilifeform and nobody ddosed qntra, trilema
15:58 asciilifeform and nobody http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you
15:58 assbot On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UZ9Gbe )
15:58 asciilifeform etc.
15:59 jurov this yes. but not gavin and hearn
15:59 asciilifeform i suppose it was all incompetence.
16:00 asciilifeform if incompetence is indistinguishable from wrecking, it ~IS~ wrecking.
16:00 asciilifeform and is to be dealt with in exactly same way.
16:00 asciilifeform we had this thread re: ninjashogun.
16:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10831 @ 0.00053072 = 5.7482 BTC [+] {3}
16:10 trinque http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249399
16:10 assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 05:06:06; trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once!
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16:15 asciilifeform ;;seen ninjashogun
16:15 gribble ninjashogun was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 18 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 41 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <ninjashogun> I am only interested in building real-world businesses with real income streams, not taking bitcoin investments for something and running off iwth it. (Not referencing anyone here, this was a recent case with Moolah, for example. Or at least accusation.)
16:15 asciilifeform ;;seen strup`fndr
16:15 gribble I have not seen strup`fndr.
16:15 asciilifeform ;;seen strup
16:15 gribble I have not seen strup.
16:15 asciilifeform ;;seen strp
16:15 gribble strp was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 23 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 6 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <strp> no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with.
16:16 asciilifeform frolicking with the spmalkyries in spmalhalla, isn't he.
16:17 asciilifeform ;;seen decimation
16:17 gribble decimation was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 58 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <decimation> I enjoyed my time here, learned much, had many lolz. I do not wish to cause drama or be an impediment to improving bitcoin. Even though I presently have L2 rating from a few people, I am not going impose on their good grace by remaining. God bless all of you.
16:17 asciilifeform ;;seen polarbeard
16:17 gribble polarbeard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <polarbeard> cpp is full of it
16:17 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430515 << retired
16:17 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 15:56:24; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ?
16:19 asciilifeform so turns out nubbins` has more in common with mircea_popescu than with asciilifeform
16:19 jurov asciilifeform: since you nicely ennumerated the activity, how would the adacoin or your refusal to pay taxes from btc sale help against these?
16:19 nubbins` my father retired, picked up two new part-time jobs
16:19 jurov against meddling with servers and media?
16:20 asciilifeform jurov: having 'key servers' or whatever central point of failure invites hitler.
16:20 nubbins` asciilifeform mircea_popescu has a post-secondary education?!
16:21 asciilifeform nubbins`: iirc he did.
16:21 nubbins` imagine
16:21 asciilifeform philosophy, iirc
16:21 nubbins` lol.
16:21 asciilifeform but earlier he ran away from maths
16:21 nubbins` makes sense
16:21 nubbins` also makes sense
16:21 asciilifeform it is in the logz
16:22 nubbins` if cannot grok numbers, try grokking universe
16:22 nubbins` mathematics is an entirely philosophical pursuit fwiw
16:22 asciilifeform iirc he grokked just fine, but decided he'd rather do business.
16:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14175 @ 0.00052946 = 7.5051 BTC [-] {2}
16:27 * nubbins` just finished setting up 6-colour job on the press
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00053073 = 4.5908 BTC [+]
16:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13567 @ 0.00052944 = 7.1829 BTC [-] {2}
16:41 asciilifeform nubbins`: neato
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4356 @ 0.0005256 = 2.2895 BTC [-] {4}
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17:04 shinohai ok #b-a I need a wireless router, what choose?
17:05 asciilifeform shinohai: make it yourself
17:05 asciilifeform out of whatever fanless box + wireless nic
17:06 * shinohai doesn't have a spare nic :/
17:06 jurov i bought miniitx celeron + pci wifi card + old hdd and found out that with 8G RAM it can be used for *anything*
17:06 jurov there's gigabyte board with 2 ports
17:06 jurov ethernet
17:08 asciilifeform i like 'pcengines'
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15077 @ 0.00052862 = 7.97 BTC [+] {2}
17:09 asciilifeform amd g-series.
17:09 asciilifeform single-board pancake thing.
17:11 BingoBoingo If you're quarentining the wireless network to play with toys on the discontinued "airrouter HP" will offer rather good range at cheapish price. Just do srs networking on something else.
17:12 BingoBoingo But the alf solution + quality antenna is the right way to do it.
17:12 shinohai so dedi box it is
17:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15073 @ 0.00052879 = 7.9705 BTC [+]
17:19 BingoBoingo "airrouter" in one of the unfortunate ubiquiti things that does not quite have the run whatever you want ability possessed by "edgerouter lite" but for toy purposes It is hard to beat the range it offers for anything close to its price.
17:19 shinohai i got this old cantenna here too.
17:20 shinohai so could make a repeater
17:21 * BingoBoingo has an airrouter not the HP version serving some toys here. Playing with iptables over ssh is nice, but can not run whole set of AWS blocker rules on its own without crashing.
17:23 shinohai what firmware ?
17:24 BingoBoingo shinohai: "airos"
17:25 shinohai im using dd-wrt now :/
17:28 jurov BingoBoingo: what, iptables crashes on your rules?
17:28 shinohai this is like 0.25 from china http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Airrouter-Ethernet-Wireless-Broadband/dp/B00V5EJS0I
17:28 assbot Amazon.com: Ubiquiti Airrouter Ar. Hp Ieee 802.11N Ethernet Wireless Router . 2.40 Ghz Ism Band . 1 X Antenna1 X External) . 656.2 Ft Indoor Range . 150 Mbps Wireless Speed . 4 X Network Port . 1 X Broadband Port . Usb . Fast Ethernet . No Desktop "Product Type: Wireless Devices/Wireless Routers": C ... ( http://bit.ly/21ndYcf )
17:31 jurov in other news, http://hugelolcdn.com/i700/380367.jpg
17:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/21neaYL )
17:35 BingoBoingo jurov: It does on chintzy $30 wireless router when using all the AWS blocking rules generated by alf script
17:36 BingoBoingo shinohai: It can be had cheaper
17:36 shinohai im in the middle of a build, still shopping around
17:36 BingoBoingo ~750 lines of iptables rules crashes it. ~100 does not.
17:37 BingoBoingo Of all things, 'top' manages to crash it
17:37 BingoBoingo but left in place to route it works
17:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00053073 = 4.3785 BTC [+]
17:40 BingoBoingo or mebbe it is the combination of 'top' and keeping an ssh tunnel open.
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00053073 = 4.9889 BTC [+]
17:54 jurov BingoBoingo:looking at banhammer, you actually only need lines marked as EC2 as these are the evil VPSes. and changing REJECT to DROP may help with resource usage, too
17:55 BingoBoingo jurov: Twas set as drop. Problem though may actually have been RAM contrainsts. Anyways twas a stress test. Do actual blocking elsewhere.
17:55 jurov btw, i searched via logs and found that https://archive.is/http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html is not archived at archive.is
17:55 assbot http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html ... ( http://bit.ly/1plaZp3 )
17:55 BingoBoingo interesting
17:56 jurov prolly nobody used it yet.. i now archived it
17:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00052545 = 4.0349 BTC [-] {2}
18:03 jurov and i'd try to use raw iptables table
18:09 BingoBoingo http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2016/03/08/up-to-speed-on-meldonium
18:09 assbot Up to Speed on Meldonium | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1plcJyK )
18:17 asciilifeform lulzy, https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-recovers-stolen-indian-artifacts-major-auction-house-ahead-asia-week-new-york
18:17 assbot ICE recovers stolen Indian artifacts from major auction house ahead of Asia Week New York | ICE ... ( http://bit.ly/1pdLO74 )
18:17 asciilifeform BingoBoingo ^ qntra ?
18:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00052456 = 11.5403 BTC [-] {8}
18:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00052764 = 5.9096 BTC [+]
18:29 BingoBoingo lemme take a look
18:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00052764 = 1.794 BTC [+]
18:40 mircea_popescu jesus freenode is fucking useless is it.
18:41 kakobrekla http://i.imgur.com/n2sHG8E.png
18:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QNBVI5 )
18:43 shinohai communism at it's finest.
18:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'A huge difference: In the former Soviet block an academic scientist published in order to satisfy the party commissars of his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by the government. In western countries an academic scientist publishes in order to demonstrate to grant review committee members his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by government-funded gr
18:45 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430529 <<< i would be very surprised if clinton gets 30%.
18:45 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 17:32:25; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5%
18:45 asciilifeform ant agencies. '
18:45 asciilifeform lel
18:45 mircea_popescu 20-something's written on her foreheads.
18:45 asciilifeform i will be very surprised if clitler doesn't get 90%.
18:46 asciilifeform by dieboldian fiat, naturally
18:46 asciilifeform but i like surprises.
18:46 mircea_popescu this is how teenagers end up shaving their head.
18:47 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The US major socialist party, as designated by qntra, gets that designation because its affliated voters actually vote the party line
18:47 asciilifeform i thought it was so the electrodes stick
18:47 mircea_popescu used to. currently, the bottom fell out, and the local nigglets are pissed off.
18:47 BingoBoingo permitted 3rd party and independent candidates nearly always bleed voters from US minor socialist party
18:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430537 << methinks you may be on to something.
18:48 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 18:01:59; trinque: so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP
18:48 mircea_popescu problem being that every tard out there already "feels like he's secretly in a movie", so this, much like gestapo stuff generally, is well desired by the genpop.
18:49 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'll have to think of an axis on which to turn artifact news.
18:50 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> by dieboldian fiat, naturally << The beauty of the diebold rigging is the 53% mandate makes things look contested while still ensuring safety for the most scaled lizards
18:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: electoral reprogramming is not to prevent the mythical 'politican does untoward thing' but rather the milder catastrophe of 'SAYS untoward thing'
18:51 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/ << this is not so bad as a starter peterl but a) why do you discuss yourself in the 3rd person and b) why is it so aside ?
18:51 assbot "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QKZrnM )
18:52 mircea_popescu think about yourself as a reader. then read it. is the piece all it could have been ?
18:52 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: a trump would be electable if he could be certain of not picking up the microphone and prattling about rothchildren
18:53 asciilifeform *if they could be certain of him not
18:53 mircea_popescu i find this proposition that there actually exists a us elite utterly hysterical.
18:53 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You're confusing Trump the character and Trump the actor
18:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is not a us elite and has not been since... rockfeller ?
18:53 asciilifeform but there is elite.
18:54 asciilifeform '"With high demand from all corners of the globe, collectors must be certain of provenance before purchasing. I urge dealers and auction houses to take every necessary precaution to avoid facilitating the sale of cultural heritage stolen from other civilizations. If a provenance is in doubt, report it to law enforcement authorities."'
18:55 asciilifeform ^ translation: only APPROVED thieves may steal.
18:55 asciilifeform 'The investigation has also identified Subhash Kapoor, who is currently in custody in India awaiting trial for allegedly looting tens of millions of dollars' worth of rare antiquities from several nations. The trails of looted artifacts have been traced all around the world. Within the past twelve months, four domestic museums and one major collector have partnered with HSI to surrender illic
18:55 asciilifeform it cultural property stemming from Kapoor.'
18:56 asciilifeform ^ translation: a thief's license has been cancelled by hitler, he is to be dekulakized.
18:56 BingoBoingo aha
18:57 asciilifeform 'Since 2007, more than 8,000 artifacts have been returned to 30 countries, including paintings from France, Germany, Poland and Austria ...' << translation: usg muppet regimes need to eat, why not subsidize them cheaply by helping them to sell their art sphincter virginity multiple times
18:57 asciilifeform france sells, usg knocks buyer on the head, sends $rembrandt back... rinse, repeat.
18:58 mircea_popescu heh
18:58 mircea_popescu how exactly were 8000 items stolen from n countries ?
18:58 asciilifeform by being peacefully sold to unsuspecting sacrificial goats ?
18:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430635 << nude fridays, too.
18:58 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 20:07:10; thestringpuller: "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department
18:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we have booze here at $rupturefarm
18:58 asciilifeform it dun help.
18:59 asciilifeform i open various cabinets in search of office supplies and keep finding liquor.
18:59 mircea_popescu yeah wel lyou don't work at webstack firm.
18:59 asciilifeform what do they have there? heroin ?
18:59 mircea_popescu sluts.
19:01 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430662 << he's like an impenetrable wall.
19:01 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 20:34:41; asciilifeform: jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right.
19:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430671 << let me generally say that you're about in the position of afghan boy who grew up in village of men and goats opining about cunts. your ideas about "the usg", while no doubt meaningful and coherent in your own perspective, are pure metaphysics.
19:03 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 20:37:55; asciilifeform: fiat isn't btc, nobody walks away with irretrievable 100m.
19:03 asciilifeform so show me the light, mircea_popescu : swift is a reversible fiat thing. no?
19:03 mircea_popescu i'm thoroughly exhausted all patience trying to engage the thing, so let's just let you live in your own world and mark once and forever that i lend it exactly the aforementioned credence.
19:04 asciilifeform and so if it turns out that 100m moved from a to b, and b stole, can just as easily return to a by hitlerian decree ?
19:04 mircea_popescu i'm not engaging that particular insanity any further.
19:05 asciilifeform 'you are wrong and your picture of universe is retarded but i won't say why' ?
19:05 asciilifeform mega-argument.
19:05 mircea_popescu "you are lacan. your picture of the universe is complete and unrelated to any extant universe. have fun with it."
19:05 mircea_popescu and note that this is no argument ; this is a judgement.
19:06 asciilifeform so the reversibility of swift and it having master control panel is not a fact of the universe we live in ?
19:06 mircea_popescu arguments are neither possible nor interesting.
19:08 * asciilifeform would liek to visit mircea_popescu's world but it doesn't sell tickets afaik.
19:08 mircea_popescu well, like is like, can is can.
19:09 asciilifeform ..?
19:09 mircea_popescu the path to mp world starts by now fucking having an opinion about how swift works when you've sent a grand total of... 0 ? 10 ? what is it ?
19:09 mircea_popescu and no, "ach" bs is not swift.
19:09 asciilifeform i will readily admit that i have not one iota of a clue re: how it works, other than it being not-bitcoin.
19:10 asciilifeform and thereby subject to retconning if 'international komyooonity' wills it
19:10 mircea_popescu so you're engaging in intricate description of an item you've never seen. you need explanation of why this is psychotic ?
19:10 asciilifeform not intricate, but particular hypothesis
19:10 mircea_popescu hypothesis ?
19:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7817 @ 0.00052764 = 4.1246 BTC [+]
19:10 asciilifeform i.e. that if zimbabwe gets a swift of x, and usg decides that this ought not have happened, it can be reversed.
19:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu will tell me that this is not so ?
19:11 mircea_popescu i'm sorry, the name for what you put out is not "hypothesis", it's justification.
19:11 asciilifeform well is it true ?
19:11 mircea_popescu there is no possibility of truth in your system.
19:12 mircea_popescu it can not be true or false. as long as it's what you need to believe, it'll be there.
19:12 asciilifeform is it because i cannot access the priors ?
19:12 mircea_popescu because you aren't in control of the cognitive process that involves it.
19:12 asciilifeform actually i am ready to believe that it is - or is not - true, if it could be anchored to actual priors that i have.
19:13 mircea_popescu mno. you are ready to either accept it as a valid justification, or else accept it as a justification that needs futher justification.
19:13 asciilifeform of what ?
19:13 mircea_popescu of nothing.
19:13 mircea_popescu justification, it's a psych term of art.
19:13 asciilifeform but justification is ~of~ something, no ?
19:14 mircea_popescu not exactly.
19:14 mircea_popescu justification is the verbiage produced in response to inquiry.
19:14 asciilifeform e.g., of krishna existing, or whatnot
19:14 mircea_popescu "why did you steal ?" "i had to i didnt really steal it wasn't me"|
19:14 asciilifeform so then it is of being caught with the goods, no ?
19:14 mircea_popescu "but you did take the thing and put it up your ass" "yes but no it wasn't a thing not my ass not me"
19:14 asciilifeform the thief's justification is ~of~ something
19:14 mircea_popescu mno.
19:15 mircea_popescu it's the response to the question ; it only exists with the question, dies with the last echo of the question. it has no factual basis.
19:16 asciilifeform and if i ask a fella what he had for dinner, his reponse also dies with the question, no ?
19:16 mircea_popescu mno. the policeman looks at the item, and asks question. the psychotic thief looks AT THE POLICEMAN and "answers" question.
19:17 mircea_popescu there's no meeting there, one's lost in his own mind.
19:17 asciilifeform but i think i know what mircea_popescu was trying to explain to me, that my notion of how swift works is static in disconnected antenna plug ?
19:18 mircea_popescu your "notion of how swift works" has absolutely nothing to do with swift, working or notions, and everything to do with you justifying your own theft which happened to touch of swift so now yhou have a "hypothesis" about that.
19:18 mircea_popescu had it touched elephants, you'd have a justification about elephant anatomy, just as well.
19:19 asciilifeform which theft ?
19:19 mircea_popescu that is not a question i can actually answer, i don't know you well enough
19:19 asciilifeform i mean, pretty much my whole existence is a theft
19:19 mircea_popescu besides this should be 1/4btc per hour and i should have a sofa./
19:19 asciilifeform l0l
19:19 asciilifeform cheap!
19:20 mircea_popescu all my life i've been shockingly cheap.
19:20 asciilifeform i would buy, at this rate !
19:20 mircea_popescu if i ever move to portland and open a shrink practice ima send you a flyer.
19:20 asciilifeform please be sure to install a suitable sofa !
19:22 mircea_popescu but the wonder is that you manage to maintain this weird somehow encapsulated while writing code. one would find the notion improbable, on the face, but then again i've read said code.
19:22 mircea_popescu hopefully the barrier lasts.
19:22 asciilifeform why is this a wonder
19:22 asciilifeform i dun get it
19:23 mircea_popescu clinical experience.
19:23 mircea_popescu i get it, "for me it's always been this way".
19:23 asciilifeform what would the code look like if this were not so ?
19:23 mircea_popescu uhh
19:24 asciilifeform i get what mircea_popescu is saying, 'the man is a lunatic but somehow capable of engineering sanely'
19:24 mircea_popescu this is actually a great question.
19:24 mircea_popescu nah, lunacy is not this.
19:24 asciilifeform but i would like to see why mircea_popescu considers the code - sane, and my picture of the rest - not.
19:24 asciilifeform i could, for instance, be readily persuaded that ~all~ of my works are of insanity.
19:24 mircea_popescu but anyway - i suppose the first symtpom of the barrier giving way is when you start including specific amulet comments
19:25 asciilifeform wtf is an amulet comment
19:26 mircea_popescu what's your definition of an amulet ?
19:26 asciilifeform a device of sympathetic magic ?
19:26 mircea_popescu basically. spurious item of presumed physical effectiveness predicated on the basis of metaphysical considerations.
19:26 asciilifeform aha
19:26 asciilifeform so a comment containing a prayer to vishnu, say ?
19:26 mircea_popescu yo9u know, like #this code copyright
19:27 mircea_popescu for instance.
19:27 asciilifeform this is amulet, but mircea_popescu's anarchist license, is not ?
19:27 asciilifeform as i see it, both are essentially decorative
19:28 mircea_popescu yes, they are. for as long as they're decorative, it's one thing.
19:28 asciilifeform having more or less same status as, e.g., #8=======>
19:28 mircea_popescu once they become necessary and "necessarily effectual", it gets iffy
19:29 mircea_popescu in any case - lunacy is not here contemplated. lunacy is actually in practice a very high bar of achievement. you're just weird, which is boringly common, especially in accomplished folks.
19:29 asciilifeform i can only aspire to the high bar.
19:30 mircea_popescu (technically speaking, the mp license is actually an anti-amulet, in the sense that it makes life impossible for a certain sort of lunatic. inasmuch as its effectiveness is not predicated on metaphysical but on quite physical considerations, it's just a virus.)
19:31 asciilifeform but is this property not itself amuletronic ?
19:31 asciilifeform it cannot all by itself 'make life impossible' for anyone.
19:31 mircea_popescu no, but we do know how idiots think.
19:31 asciilifeform and the old amulet was also calibrated for a certain kind of idiot
19:31 asciilifeform whose thought processes were reasonably well known
19:31 mircea_popescu mind, selling amulets is a trade like any other trade. wearing them is what was being discussed.
19:32 asciilifeform anyway i don't do amulets, much as mircea_popescu is convinced of this. i ~might~ entertain laughably inaccurate hypothesis about whatevers, when i have no access (unlike to the inside of a computer) to the priors.
19:34 mircea_popescu that's not the proper approach there. consider that you'd "entertain laughably innacurate hypothesis" about a) things that really make no difference to you ; b) with which you have absolutely no experience and c) that have exactly nothing in common with a hypothesis and everything in common with an article of faith.
19:34 asciilifeform who is to say what makes a difference to me.
19:34 mircea_popescu you could trivially test this swift hypothesis of yours you know - wire a grand to the next nigerian to visit your inbox then write to your bank to reverse it.
19:35 asciilifeform ~i~ don't get to reverse it !
19:35 asciilifeform never said this.
19:35 mircea_popescu oh i see.
19:35 asciilifeform the system's owner gets to.
19:35 asciilifeform which is neither me nor the other schmuck.
19:35 mircea_popescu is he the elite ?
19:35 asciilifeform whoever he answers to, is sorta definitionally elite, no?
19:36 mircea_popescu ex post facto.
19:36 mircea_popescu it's a trope of fiction, all this.
19:36 mircea_popescu which whatever, everyone needs a hobby.
19:37 asciilifeform care to possibly give a brief picture of the reality ?
19:37 asciilifeform or what, 'your puny brain cannot digest it ' ?
19:38 mircea_popescu the reality of what ?
19:38 asciilifeform of swift.
19:38 mircea_popescu why not read the documentation ?
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19:38 mircea_popescu it's remarkably open and well documented for a fiat banking thing.
19:38 asciilifeform why not read nsa.gov to learn which hdd firmwares are buggered ?
19:39 mircea_popescu it's a protocol you know.
19:39 asciilifeform or what, swift operators swore to vishnu to tell the truth and only the complete truth ?
19:39 asciilifeform but yes, i will actually go and read.
19:39 mircea_popescu so there's a meta-documentation that's secret and a faux documentation that's published ?
19:39 * asciilifeform bbl.
19:40 mircea_popescu same could be said about fucking css.
19:40 mircea_popescu (actually, amusingly enough, swift docs date from just about the era ada was fashionable. there was such a time - just like that time in the 90s when everyone was eager to implement linux-y things and you didn't really have to sell it at all, whole cities just switched for no reason)
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19:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430725 << epic line.
19:41 assbot Logged on 11-03-2016 21:10:58; assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 05:06:06; trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once!
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20:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8430 @ 0.00052764 = 4.448 BTC [+]
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20:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00052764 = 4.1684 BTC [+]
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21:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2515 @ 0.00052764 = 1.327 BTC [+]
21:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00052901 = 3.2799 BTC [+] {2}
21:20 mircea_popescu jesus, this sls thing is pretty big huh.
21:20 mod6 wassat?
21:20 mircea_popescu some soap ingredient.
21:20 mod6 ah
21:20 mircea_popescu apparently the etsy chicks are getting militant.
21:21 mod6 heh
21:21 mircea_popescu i suppose in another decade there won't be a way to buy soap.
21:21 mod6 have to make our own.
21:22 mod6 al la fight club.
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21:47 mircea_popescu it's this fashion thing, i guess every third unemployed/able chick is making artisanal soap these days.
21:47 mircea_popescu in a sense i can see it, must be satisfying to actually MAKE something in postsociety.
21:48 mircea_popescu but you really have to be retarded to imagine a ploy to claim industrial production is bad isn't obviously transparent and deeply ineffectual.
21:54 mircea_popescu https://www.quora.com/Who-will-win-the-Bitcoin-blocksize-war << nothing quite like 15 month old derpage.
21:54 assbot Who will win the Bitcoin blocksize war? - Quora ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCzfTk )
21:55 mod6 heheh
21:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00052782 = 3.9587 BTC [-]
21:55 * asciilifeform is in b0rked car waiting for crane
21:55 mircea_popescu o.o what happened ? crash ?
21:55 asciilifeform nah
21:56 mod6 asciilifeform: did you say you were using gnat to link ada object flies?
21:56 asciilifeform mega-orc problem - iron rebar hook in parking lot of shady restaurant, gutted bumper ~on way out~
21:57 asciilifeform like fish.
21:57 asciilifeform srsly the sheet zimbabwe
21:57 mircea_popescu nuts.
21:57 asciilifeform *sheer
21:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00052824 = 5.0711 BTC [+] {5}
21:58 mircea_popescu i don't get it, who has spare rebar hooks ? what ?
21:58 asciilifeform crumbling concrete
21:58 mircea_popescu o brother.
21:58 mircea_popescu are you suing ? :D
21:58 asciilifeform l0l!
21:59 mircea_popescu maybe enjoy some um bongo in the interim ?
21:59 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYj5o4kQsXs
21:59 assbot Um Bongo Orginal Advert - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCzCgE )
21:59 * asciilifeform tunes in
22:03 mircea_popescu in other rebar hooks and crumbling concrete news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp3f4xtbeZ1qc5bcno1_1280.jpg
22:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/21nucly )
22:07 * mircea_popescu looks at qntra article, sees chorus of derps going "pay fee!!1". i'm so glad bitcoin evanghelism dragged in the webizens srsly.
22:08 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "sfly & piot" is a pretty good find!
22:19 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "sfly & piot" is a pretty good find! << which is this?
22:28 BingoBoingo Aha
22:28 * BingoBoingo gets it nao
22:29 danielpbarron !up granny
22:29 BingoBoingo !up granny
22:30 granny The bet here bitbet.us/bet/1248/ethereum-to-top-1-billion-market-cap-before/ is resolved, as Ethereum just surpassed billion market cap.
22:30 granny Thank you
22:41 mircea_popescu link says ~800mn
22:41 mircea_popescu not that it's not ridoinculous anyway.
22:42 mircea_popescu ponzi ahoy, should be funny to see what next week brings. 1 trn ? 1 bjln ?
22:43 granny Hi, the link to coincap.io shows over a billion right now
22:43 mircea_popescu i just looked ?
22:43 granny 800 million is from the graph which is wrong
22:43 granny look at the market cap
22:43 granny just below the price
22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00052827 = 2.298 BTC [+]
22:45 mircea_popescu there's a graph, it doesn't touch 1bn.
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22:46 mircea_popescu i suppose the site's totally borked, huh.
22:46 granny hmm, yes, that graph is totally wrong
22:46 mircea_popescu either totally wrong or totally right or w/e. i guess mods will see to it.
22:47 mircea_popescu if derpy site is going to print numbers, might as well print the same ones. one'd think.
22:50 granny Well, it's over a billion at coinmarketcap, so I know the number's I'd trust there.
22:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3037 @ 0.00052782 = 1.603 BTC [-] {2}
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9233 @ 0.00052657 = 4.8618 BTC [-] {3}
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23:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00052508 = 2.1003 BTC [-] {4}
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