| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
back to the little pistol - i often wonder what is the shortest barrel that's still good for 'last round you save for yourself' |
| 00:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Probably depends on what comes out of barrel. .22 rimfire prolly needs a longer barrel than .50 BMG |
| 00:05 |
cazalla |
it's a ladies gun isn't it? sorta like a derringer |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
http://en.shram.kiev.ua/work/ekzoticheskie-patroni.shtml << small arms oddities |
| 00:06 |
assbot |
Exotic ammunition www.shram.kiev.ua ... ( http://bit.ly/1KeKCr0 ) |
| 00:06 |
asciilifeform |
e.g., http://en.shram.kiev.ua/img/work/ekzoticheskie-patroni/wpid_je3gc13pxc_1394451845_resize.jpg |
| 00:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KeKEz5 ) |
| 00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
For last bullet one needs barrel that goes back of the mouth and then up to destroy brainstem. Wider buller likely more forgiving. perhaps .12 gauge deer slug from metal "flare" gun would be ideal if "guide rod" was attached to contact right part of the soft palate |
| 00:07 |
asciilifeform |
something like the 'captive bolt' thing used in slaughterhouses would also work |
| 00:07 |
asciilifeform |
(gunpowder-actuated piston) |
| 00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: That break action .223 pistol isn't even a ladies gun. Lacks the aesthetics for that. |
| 00:08 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: captive bolt is for the bunker to pass around after the last selfish prick takes own goal |
| 00:08 |
asciilifeform |
'ugh wash that thing will ya' |
| 00:09 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 12 |
| 00:09 |
assbot |
Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0PAMJTS.txt ) |
| 00:10 |
BingoBoingo |
mats: What really is the appeal of "hip firing"? is that for target too close for bayonet? |
| 00:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://en.shram.kiev.ua/img/work/ekzoticheskie-patroni/olded_1394382635_resize.jpg << win |
| 00:10 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KeKYho ) |
| 00:11 |
mats |
putting more rounds downrange than other skilled shooter |
| 00:11 |
mats |
i would prefer a knife for close in work |
| 00:12 |
cazalla |
you guys and your illegal weapons.. call the police if ya meet with trouble |
| 00:13 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: On the contrary. Not illegal at all here. |
| 00:13 |
asciilifeform |
cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed |
| 00:14 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, illegal in my country therefore illegal in yours (works for US so why not aus?) |
| 00:14 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: .50 BMG anti dump truck rifle perfectly fine sport weapon |
| 00:14 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Because your most dangerous native fauna is the roos |
| 00:15 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> cazalla: in usa, police is where you call to have the sidewalk hosed and corpses removed << In this area they don't hose. Property owner must contract "crime scene cleaner" |
| 00:15 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 00:18 |
cazalla |
as much hassle as it is shelling and deveining prawns, this tom yum goong is preddy gud |
| 00:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Medical services of course though always take the largest portion of the cadaver and bill for their attempts at resurrection |
| 00:21 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.wired.com/2012/07/olympic-gear-firearms/ << lol EU restricts CO2 emissions from airguns! |
| 00:21 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KeLRGJ ) |
| 00:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Related layering strategy http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2557 |
| 00:26 |
assbot |
JL: The Survival Stick ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7idqk ) |
| 00:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.000403 = 9.7325 BTC [+] |
| 00:29 |
BingoBoingo |
And for mircea_popescu http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2562 |
| 00:29 |
assbot |
JL: How Police Protect Gangsters ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7iolu ) |
| 00:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24953 @ 0.0003989 = 9.9538 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:36 |
BingoBoingo |
MCM pistol, self winding watch, and naptha box lighter seems like a solid trio of possessions for profiling potential Bitcoin holders |
| 00:38 |
mats |
i admit that 'hip firing' is a mistake for most people |
| 00:40 |
mats |
and in the general case i would prefer a balanced knife over a handgun |
| 00:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Well it is a dilemma. At range you want a rifle, and otherwise you jsut don't want to get boned |
| 00:42 |
mats |
bring a battle buddy (tm) |
| 00:43 |
punkman |
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html heh |
| 00:43 |
assbot |
CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7jwFR ) |
| 00:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00039879 = 22.5715 BTC [-] |
| 00:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00039691 = 13.2568 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nb. |
| 01:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"The Black Guerilla Family was running at least one Maryland Corrections facility, and even had military operatives in Afghanistan bringing home dope. Terrence White, the incarcerated Commander of the gang, impregnated four corrections officers!" |
| 01:01 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey, check the guy out |
| 01:01 |
mircea_popescu |
it wasn't out of the blue. |
| 01:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59350 @ 0.00039441 = 23.4082 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:05 |
punkman |
http://www.infowars.com/black-guerrilla-family-the-bloods-and-the-crips-plan-to-take-out-baltimore-cops/ |
| 01:05 |
assbot |
» Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips Plan to “Take Out” Baltimore Cops Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1e7lqX0 ) |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177026 << ongoing problem, with all the "we made our own coin out of bitcoin and sed/awk" |
| 01:12 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 01:05:52; punkman: so apparently shitcoins can connect to bitcoind just fine and shit blocks on it |
| 01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
how the fuck do you tell them apart ? most are very sloppy too |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177044 << fucktard thinks that something OTHER THAN THE PESO is the world's least stable currency. |
| 01:15 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 02:00:25; punkman: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3b457y/vp_candidate_in_argentina_a_harvard_econ_phd/ |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
in this, he is a typical argentine. |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. |
| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
because they're white, and really that's all there is. |
| 01:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23664 @ 0.00039379 = 9.3186 BTC [-] |
| 01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177090 << "provided the entire 'connectable' network is defined as 'that which will allow us to probe'. " splendid wankery. |
| 01:16 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 03:17:58; punkman: "AddressProbe is able to map the entire connectable Bitcoin network within minutes" interesting |
| 01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
also in the same news dollop, "wot allows mapping the entire visible relationship map". derp. |
| 01:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23736 @ 0.00039182 = 9.3002 BTC [-] |
| 01:17 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. << Like Roof kid who targeted church because he lacked balls to target crack den or hip hop concert |
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| 01:17 |
mircea_popescu |
he should have targeted city hall. |
| 01:18 |
mircea_popescu |
always shoot the politicians, whenever something goes not to your liking. |
| 01:18 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what they're there for. |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177128 << while screaming "vote or die!" |
| 01:19 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 03:53:05; mats: will put in the enemy's eye |
| 01:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Or make the politicians shit the paperwork, what evs |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
15% Class participation |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
20% Ethereum project |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
15% Reading Critique and Homeworks |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
50% Final project |
| 01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker.Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller ftr. |
| 01:20 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> always shoot the politicians, whenever something goes not to your liking. << And to be fair Roof kid got a State Senator |
| 01:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Purely by chance though. |
| 01:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21368 @ 0.000403 = 8.6113 BTC [+] |
| 01:28 |
mats |
punkman: reads like a scam |
| 01:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122944 @ 0.00041189 = 50.6394 BTC [+] {3} |
| 01:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00040773 = 21.9766 BTC [-] |
| 01:37 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177210 <<< would shooting up a crack den even make the news? |
| 01:37 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 05:17:33; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> folks around here earnestly believe their country is unlike congo. << Like Roof kid who targeted church because he lacked balls to target crack den or hip hop concert |
| 01:37 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Maybe if he got a high score? |
| 01:39 |
cazalla |
church wouldn't be my choice but he might've known it would cause outrage on account of church being somewhat sacrosanct |
| 01:44 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: no doxygen, but i did try to run it through a source tree mapper one time |
| 01:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73850 @ 0.00041723 = 30.8124 BTC [+] {3} |
| 01:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72900 @ 0.00041854 = 30.5116 BTC [+] |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"As a man, my arsenal is heavier in my room. In my bed is a bowie knife, on the night stand a dagger, by the dresser a late medieval arming sword, at my desk a pair of butterfly swords, by my foot locker a Viking sword and a jobolo wood baton, and by the door to my room a hickory walking stick, a razor sharp daito [ninja sword] and a 14 inch meat hook. I want to emerge from my room with a weapon in each hand, as such a |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
scenario would be triggered by an audible break in or an attack on my housematesand, for that apocalyptic event, I have my bow and arrows." |
| 01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
this guy is going to die accidentally when his bedroom falls on him |
| 02:02 |
BingoBoingo |
It sounds like there is a non-zero chance of that. |
| 02:03 |
mircea_popescu |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Wing_Chun_Hybrid_Blade_Style_Butterfly_Swords.JPG << gotta say they're pretty gorgeous |
| 02:03 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Gw1XqO ) |
| 02:06 |
cazalla |
such fancy weapons but i'd rather dual machete with 50% crit bonus on offhand |
| 02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
dunno. they seem light and overall excellent. |
| 02:10 |
cazalla |
well, Australian has +2 to machete so it is an obvious choice |
| 02:12 |
* |
BingoBoingo partial to stiff dagger with pointed narrow blade, preferably unseen until removed from ribs |
| 02:12 |
mats |
http://bladeswelove.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/IMG_5080.jpg |
| 02:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KeWEk0 ) |
| 02:13 |
mats |
'karambit' |
| 02:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!s fairbairn |
| 02:13 |
assbot |
4 results for 'fairbairn' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fairbairn |
| 02:13 |
mircea_popescu |
lol teh kukri |
| 02:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15205 @ 0.00041854 = 6.3639 BTC [+] |
| 02:14 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, no rambo knife? (knife from part 2) |
| 02:14 |
BingoBoingo |
cazalla: Too wide and flat. Dagger is minimal skill tool. |
| 02:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Something like a Rambo knife requires awareness of angles and orientation |
| 02:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31107 @ 0.00040773 = 12.6833 BTC [-] |
| 02:16 |
punkman |
"Terminator was really sent back by John Connor because he could not longer stand reading the code he wrote when he was younger" |
| 02:17 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 02:17 |
scoopbot_revived |
BitFury and private property in the land of the free. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/ |
| 02:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141500 @ 0.00039124 = 55.3605 BTC [-] {3} |
| 02:20 |
punkman |
mats, what reads like a scam? |
| 02:21 |
mats |
01:05:06 <@assbot> » Black Guerrilla Family, the Bloods and the Crips Plan to “Take Out” Baltimore Cops |
| 02:21 |
mircea_popescu |
you only think so because alex jones is pushing it. |
| 02:22 |
punkman |
everything on infowars reads like a scam indeed |
| 02:22 |
mats |
i would expect these organizations to have been in the game long enough to know to avoid inviting federal bureaucrats to join in the fun |
| 02:22 |
mats |
reads like cops scamming feds for grant money. |
| 02:23 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, feds would never give money, they'd just move in. |
| 02:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and honestly, it's dubious whether feds can actually afford going to battle with a well organised us based clan. |
| 02:26 |
mircea_popescu |
whether such exists is another matter, but anyway. |
| 02:26 |
mircea_popescu |
iirc the faggots licked them. there's not much lower to go after that. |
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| 02:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16738 @ 0.00038844 = 6.5017 BTC [-] |
| 02:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00038807 = 14.1257 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20935 @ 0.0003933 = 8.2337 BTC [+] |
| 02:48 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=7795365644055 (Shell Arkell ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=1816771166631 (Shell Arkell ; ) |
| 02:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1eKZkup ) |
| 02:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Ouch, another german |
| 02:50 |
BingoBoingo |
And the alf creation now has the ears of 66 moduli for its necklace |
| 02:54 |
BingoBoingo |
NewFlag https://i.imgur.com/2DWXfGR.jpg |
| 02:54 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1eL02b6 ) |
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| 03:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg |
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| 03:14 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GMPD7F ) |
| 03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey check that out. |
| 03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo thaty's not a bad flag at all. whose is it ? |
| 03:16 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Saw it in the reddit tardmines trying to mine lulz. Creator yet unidentified. Apparently reddit OP jacked it from elsewhere to be identified |
| 03:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i think you just summed up reddit with that. |
| 03:17 |
mircea_popescu |
like a wikipedia for non-text internet content. |
| 03:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"identify as an aloe vera" bit was pretty good. |
| 03:19 |
BingoBoingo |
It's the new "Fuck You Imma Dragon" |
| 03:19 |
cazalla |
386 lbs holy fuck that water retention |
| 03:19 |
cazalla |
"identify as aloe vera" ok nice troll |
| 03:20 |
mircea_popescu |
why not camel, i wonder. |
| 03:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Because camel humps are fat. The wikipedoium can tell redditors that. |
| 03:21 |
mircea_popescu |
but aloe's a vegetable. |
| 03:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24942 @ 0.00039855 = 9.9406 BTC [+] |
| 03:22 |
BingoBoingo |
But they don't want to be oily butterblobs, they want to be innocent ballons |
| 03:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Water weight makes it seem like the doctor's fault for not giving them enough HCTZ and Lasix to piss out their planthood. |
| 03:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and in the nightly scare : https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg |
| 03:24 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GMQy86 ) |
| 03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
wrong one. i meant : http://40.media.tumblr.com/2ca11d7f8f10f6745ff7634a274589a6/tumblr_nqb6hjqvA91u3fd9jo1_1280.jpg |
| 03:25 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GMQyVE ) |
| 03:27 |
HeySteve |
still the best site on the internet: http://web.archive.org/web/20120209145349/http://www.fatchicksinpartyhats.com/ |
| 03:27 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HkhzRW ) |
| 03:30 |
cazalla |
that site is really relegated to archive.org ? |
| 03:30 |
HeySteve |
not sure why he needs the mantrap in the 1st place... but using cellphone in the bedroom is very bad form |
| 03:30 |
HeySteve |
it seems so :( |
| 03:30 |
BingoBoingo |
Not Safe For Life: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/10/1370727194611.jpg |
| 03:30 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GMR7ip ) |
| 03:31 |
HeySteve |
arrrg that's horrendous |
| 03:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Only marginally less bad, but still Not safe for life: https://slimgur.com/image/6wX |
| 03:31 |
assbot |
HEaPB - SLiMGUR ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMRcTe ) |
| 03:32 |
cazalla |
HeySteve, how many bitcoin would it take for you to fuck her? 1? 10? 100? 1000? |
| 03:32 |
HeySteve |
it looks like she's made of cancer |
| 03:32 |
HeySteve |
don't think I could, without a blindfold and a crate of viagra |
| 03:33 |
cazalla |
10k btc but you gotta lick the pussy |
| 03:33 |
HeySteve |
the creature's human-suit is melting |
| 03:35 |
BingoBoingo |
It looks like a Staph infection literally tore through its Fupa. |
| 03:35 |
HeySteve |
cazalla, not sure that would cover the psychotherapy |
| 03:35 |
mircea_popescu |
why the bra ? |
| 03:35 |
mircea_popescu |
im sorry, to rephrase. why just one bra ? |
| 03:36 |
cazalla |
i still don't grasp how anyone gets that big, really hope it is genetics as they claim |
| 03:37 |
mircea_popescu |
it must be liquids. |
| 03:37 |
cazalla |
must be some black hole type food that is just super dense with calories |
| 03:37 |
mircea_popescu |
soda, beer, icecream, that sort of thing. |
| 03:37 |
BingoBoingo |
<HeySteve> cazalla, not sure that would cover the psychotherapy << I'd be more concerned with other medical followup. I looks like it still has active cullulitis infection on its skin after surgical intervention to remove areas of active necrosis. |
| 03:38 |
HeySteve |
high fructose corn syrup is the culprit, so I've heard |
| 03:38 |
mircea_popescu |
dja mean cellulitis ? |
| 03:38 |
HeySteve |
BingoBoingo, don't know what cullulitis infection and afraid to search it |
| 03:39 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> dja mean cellulitis ? << Yeah |
| 03:39 |
mircea_popescu |
staph fat infection. |
| 03:39 |
HeySteve |
but flesh-eating bacteria might be a solution instead of a problem here |
| 03:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Or biodiesel. Amoco Green was people! |
| 03:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16101 @ 0.00039855 = 6.4171 BTC [+] |
| 03:45 |
BingoBoingo |
At this point I'm conviced the only reason the fat hate movement is being suppressed is because USG has officially adopted Obesity as a social control mechanism. |
| 03:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40920 @ 0.00040972 = 16.7657 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 04:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00041331 = 15.3751 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/ <<< if anyone else feels inclined to voice their concerns re the fraud being perpetuated against umd, please do so, either towards the people there listed or anyone else you think appropriate. |
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| 04:42 |
assbot |
On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FEsdNW ) |
| 04:49 |
punkman |
nice ;) |
| 05:00 |
scoopbot_revived |
On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/ |
| 05:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67900 @ 0.00041733 = 28.3367 BTC [+] {3} |
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| 05:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00041854 = 13.7909 BTC [+] |
| 05:23 |
cazalla |
poor elaine shi cannot even redeem herself with a fuck with such an ugly gook face |
| 05:27 |
cazalla |
looks like some frenchie lost his head http://rt.com/news/269890-france-attack-industrial-complex/ |
| 05:27 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1e7AILz ) |
| 05:29 |
jurov |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177055 wow. seems doxygen has improved much since i last used it |
| 05:29 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 02:57:31; asciilifeform: https://dev.visucore.com/bitcoin/doxygen/walletmodel_8h_source.html << example, in use by enemy |
| 05:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10822 @ 0.00041854 = 4.5294 BTC [+] {2} |
| 05:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42728 @ 0.00041878 = 17.8936 BTC [+] {3} |
| 05:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00041928 = 4.5702 BTC [+] {2} |
| 05:54 |
jurov |
http://rt.com/news/236027-madonna-europe-nazi-germany/ RT delivers! |
| 05:54 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GN4Up1 ) |
| 05:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43100 @ 0.00041965 = 18.0869 BTC [+] |
| 06:00 |
jurov |
http://rt.com/news/259121-us-bomb-rt-kusturica/ looks like a plan |
| 06:00 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dkqBlG ) |
| 06:02 |
jurov |
Kusturica believes, “RT will ever more demystify the American Dream and in primetime will reveal the truth hidden for decades from the eyes and hearts of average Americans.” |
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| 06:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00041115 = 20.1464 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:21 |
jurov |
http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg LOL |
| 06:21 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1dktinq ) |
| 06:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00040619 = 6.3772 BTC [-] |
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shinohai |
^ that pic should be used in a bitcoind release |
| 06:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00040619 = 13.0793 BTC [-] |
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assbot |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00040641 = 5.4459 BTC [-] |
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assbot |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00040064 = 18.2692 BTC [-] {3} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00039433 = 13.4072 BTC [-] {2} |
| 08:33 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=133 (Marc Enger ; Marc Enger ; ) |
| 08:33 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Crgd2e ) |
| 08:45 |
punkman |
https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions/ |
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| 08:45 |
assbot |
A month with BADONIONS ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkAdJw ) |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00040869 = 13.405 BTC [+] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24550 @ 0.00039094 = 9.5976 BTC [-] |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00040869 = 2.82 BTC [+] |
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| 09:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.00038795 = 21.2985 BTC [-] {5} |
| 09:37 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (ms@admilon.net ; ) |
| 09:37 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IhHg6A ) |
| 09:37 |
mats |
it flexs |
| 09:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25330 @ 0.00039925 = 10.113 BTC [+] |
| 09:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38087 @ 0.00039925 = 15.2062 BTC [+] |
| 10:09 |
punkman |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIbkCQbUAAAm5lz.jpg |
| 10:09 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1JnHp9P ) |
| 10:10 |
punkman |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIX9ZmFWgAAfH5U.jpg |
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| 10:10 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1JnHxWY ) |
| 10:12 |
punkman |
!up referredbyloper |
| 10:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36150 @ 0.00040381 = 14.5977 BTC [+] {4} |
| 10:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177373 << >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-06-2015#1173884 |
| 10:18 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 12:45:28; punkman: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions/ |
| 10:18 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-06-2015 02:49:18; asciilifeform: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions << lulzy. but for some reason author did not consider the possibility that isps snort downstream from known tor exits |
| 10:21 |
PeterL |
Anybody seen the movie "Horrible bosses 2"? It made me smile when it referenced bitcoin. |
| 10:23 |
asciilifeform |
'Feb 16: 10:30am AVW 4172 !! Guest Lecture by Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum.' << can't believe i missed this lulzfest that happened half hour's walk from my house. |
| 10:24 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.cyber.umd.edu/events/cryptocurrency-hotshots << l0l! |
| 10:24 |
assbot |
Cryptocurrency Hot-shot Speaker Series - Spring 2015 | Maryland Cybersecurity Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnJ4MQ ) |
| 10:25 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu probably read this speaker list, and understands why the dean of umd will not call the two 'heroes' to the carpet. |
| 10:27 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I've noted an extremely pervasive "any cryptocoin but bitcoin" bias in academia, think tanks, and gov't |
| 10:28 |
decimation |
in my opinion it can be solely accounted for by "I wanna print money too" |
| 10:29 |
decimation |
ah and he's one of thiel's bois |
| 10:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00041179 = 5.2709 BTC [+] {2} |
| 10:29 |
decimation |
"She is also an advisor to Ripple, one of the most popular cryptocurrencies (currently second to Bitcoin in total cap). " |
| 10:29 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: there's always next semester. |
| 10:30 |
asciilifeform |
http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114626 |
| 10:30 |
assbot |
On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCXh7u ) |
| 10:31 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: they will have to feature some other scammer next semester |
| 10:31 |
asciilifeform |
(who will it be? gavin?) |
| 10:31 |
pete_dushenski |
wouldn't that be sweet |
| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
not like there is any shortage of these. |
| 10:32 |
pete_dushenski |
mebbe usgbitfury will be there with their lightbulbs |
| 10:32 |
pete_dushenski |
or 21 and their comcastboxen |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
i bet the ee labs are already providing gratis fab & debug service for those |
| 10:33 |
pete_dushenski |
'masters thesis' |
| 10:34 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell thestringpuller hope you like michael jackson http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/25/this-is-it/ |
| 10:34 |
assbot |
This Is It | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnKeYC ) |
| 10:34 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 10:34 |
asciilifeform |
with shame i admit that i not only took degree there, but was employed for a spell under the same roof ('umiacs') with these mega-heroes. |
| 10:34 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: of course, if they invited someone who actually knew about bitcoin |
| 10:34 |
decimation |
the conference would have been about telling uncomfortable truths |
| 10:35 |
decimation |
like, why are none of you actually reading the bitcoin code |
| 10:35 |
asciilifeform |
these are educated pseudoscientists, not 'tardstalk' denizens |
| 10:35 |
asciilifeform |
they know what they're doing. |
| 10:35 |
pete_dushenski |
right. they read code, liked what they saw. |
| 10:36 |
decimation |
that doesn't mean they know anything about bitcoin |
| 10:36 |
decimation |
but I would agree that they know from which master they get their pay |
| 10:36 |
pete_dushenski |
thought that, if anything, code needed moar feechures. |
| 10:36 |
decimation |
I could imagine a virtuous bitcoin conference |
| 10:36 |
asciilifeform |
why would a fly think that meat in the sun 'needs' anything other than some fly eggs ? |
| 10:37 |
decimation |
imagine dijsktra giving a talk on the various ways in which bitcoin code is horrifying |
| 10:38 |
decimation |
It's depressing that these people are 'paid to think' and are engaging with bitcoin at the level of the average new york times commenter |
| 10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!rated lobbes |
| 10:39 |
assbot |
You rated user lobbes on 06-Feb-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Well... he did teach himself how to view a directory.... |
| 10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
| 10:40 |
shinohai |
lol |
| 10:40 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177386 << lol apparently these 'wilder publications' have a bit of a reputation for scamming, see: http://www.patricesarath.com/observations/the-shameful-business-model-of-wilder-publications/ |
| 10:40 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 14:10:43; punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIX9ZmFWgAAfH5U.jpg |
| 10:40 |
assbot |
The shameful business model of Wilder Publications - Author Patrice Sarath ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCZIqI ) |
| 10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
da fuck is this even. |
| 10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"o, parents should tell their kids all about how a) they're smarter than kant and b) really, it was god not this evolution bs," |
| 10:43 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114627 << what line did they cross? if you read the guest speaker list linked a few lines back, it becomes clear that they are doing the will of His Reptilian Majesty |
| 10:43 |
assbot |
On the Elaine Shi and Andrew Miller scam ring on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RD0oMJ ) |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
his reptilian majesty is still lying about its involvement in that particular scam. |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
the line they crossed is that they exposed their master, and yeah they're fucked. |
| 10:44 |
asciilifeform |
the thing's a rogue's gallery of buterin, the 'ripple' folks, a 'law prof' devoted to digging up precedent for 'regulating cryptocurrency', etc. |
| 10:44 |
pete_dushenski |
"and c) we've progressed so far since then, my little dearest, these words on this page from this kant feller are barely worth the paper they're written on other than for being so adorably archaic" |
| 10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform so it is. so what of it ? |
| 10:45 |
asciilifeform |
the figure of lizardhitler in this affair was never disguised in earnest. he simply wore the traditional kabuki mask, pro forma |
| 10:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20516 @ 0.00040606 = 8.3307 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
you're saying this as if their 0.5.4 has any bearing on anything. |
| 10:46 |
asciilifeform |
depends what means 'any bearing' |
| 10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
looky, there's very little point in constantly rehashing this particular form of learned helplessness thing you got going. i don't work that way, i never worked that way, it doesn't in any sense work. it can be a quaint curiosity if you wish, a peculiarity of a peculiar gentleman if oyu must. it can never be more than that and it can never have any impact or meaning in the world. |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
one wallace loh is going to be confronted with the particularly unpleasant dilemma of either saying "yeah mp was right, they were usg all along" or else fucking up an assistant. |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
he fucks up assistant profs for breakfast, it's his job. |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
and the rest of the "rogue gallery" will be confronted with the unpleasant dilemma that they're in the trenches, and either continue or get shot or else withdraw and get shot. |
| 10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
win win and bang bang all around. |
| 10:48 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the only reason the usg-tronic 'department of fucking with bitcoin' is even theoretically of interest is that the machine isn't perfect. has some rust, sand in gears (as discussed, e.g., yesterday, re: mempool etc.) in effect there is a $maxint bounty by hitler for anyone who can demonstrably amplify the hiccups. |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
more imporantly : every bureaucrat, no matter how low ranking, has an identical bureaucrat clone ready to take over, revving in a corner. |
| 10:49 |
asciilifeform |
not trying to frame this as a calamity, but as a force of nature |
| 10:49 |
asciilifeform |
can the roof keep out the rain ? |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a fact. it's to be used, to hurt THE PEOPLE involved. |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
for all their pretense, they're people. they cry, they hurt, they get hungry and desperate. |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why "no committee". get the names, ruin their lives, let them be replaced. |
| 10:50 |
asciilifeform |
why would prof. lysenko here get desperate unless the cheques start bouncing ? |
| 10:50 |
mircea_popescu |
we're not at war with the united states government. we're at war with the people making it up. governments don't exist, people do. |
| 10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if memory serves, rarely has there been a more effectual bureaucrat than yezhov |
| 10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
his fucking pictures started bouncing at some point. |
| 10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
how ? why ? |
| 10:52 |
asciilifeform |
yezhov's was a complicated matter. in the sense that he wasn't 100% 'pet', showed signs of being willing and able to bite stalin. so had to go. |
| 10:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0004123 = 3.1541 BTC [+] |
| 10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
pff. |
| 10:53 |
asciilifeform |
replaced with 'pet' (who, yes, may have pulled a borgia on poor old master. but quietly) |
| 10:54 |
mod6 |
i generated some quick doxygen stuff... lemme put it up somewhere quick so you can look and see if it's ok. |
| 10:55 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: i must confess that i never once actually used 'doxygen' for anything. but saw the page linked yesterday, and it (at least if viewed in graphical www browser) does some nifty things, like unraveling class inheritances |
| 10:55 |
asciilifeform |
(though i am not certain if it does so automagically or needs embedded annotations that we lack) |
| 10:57 |
asciilifeform |
re: the umd wankatron: i will add a potentially interesting detail: |
| 10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
doxygen's a standard pretty much |
| 10:57 |
asciilifeform |
it is SOP for course www to remain unchanged until new syllabus is written (if and when the course is read again) |
| 10:57 |
asciilifeform |
so that thing may well stay up for a while, and no one ought to be surprised that it features a now-defunct chumpatron |
| 10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
it's archived, of course. |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
naturally. |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
just pointing out that the turtle is not by pure accident the symbol of that university, and life moves very slowly there. |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
it should be spilled milk. why should they be able to "change" ? |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck 'em. |
| 10:59 |
asciilifeform |
it will be interesting to see when the linked page vanishes. |
| 10:59 |
* |
pete_dushenski smells bitbet prop |
| 11:00 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: ahh. ok well take a look at this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/index.html |
| 11:00 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1RD4Zi6 ) |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
pretty neat |
| 11:01 |
asciilifeform |
esp. in comparison with the turdmeisters' copy, which is so bloated it makes my browser cry |
| 11:01 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: if you have time, consider putting up a second copy of this, but loaded with the 'bleeding' version |
| 11:01 |
asciilifeform |
(thermonukes, etc.) |
| 11:02 |
mod6 |
all the way up through the IRC demolition? |
| 11:02 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 11:02 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, it looks like (fingers crossed) might have seed up today. |
| 11:02 |
asciilifeform |
that's the version that i'm considering for public seed box, and it would be helpful to folks reviewing |
| 11:03 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: neato! |
| 11:03 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: lemme see what i can do. |
| 11:03 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: that's a mighty fast sync. |
| 11:03 |
* |
asciilifeform imagines mircea_popescu syncing his node from pdp11 tape reels |
| 11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 11:05 |
mod6 |
do you want me to add in the { Gentoo Sanity } patches as well? |
| 11:05 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 11:05 |
mod6 |
alrighty. |
| 11:05 |
asciilifeform |
these work now ? |
| 11:05 |
asciilifeform |
as in, can produce static binary ? |
| 11:06 |
mod6 |
well they work in the context that these files compile without /those/ specific problems (i.e. namespace problems with boost), but we still have the gcc/uclibc issue. |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 11:06 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: which issue? where linker barfs ? |
| 11:06 |
mod6 |
yes. that. |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
poor guy, my heart goes out. "does this work ? " "well it works in the sense it takes the shit out of the soup. puss is sitll there." |
| 11:06 |
asciilifeform |
ah |
| 11:07 |
mod6 |
just compiled it like 20 minutes ago again with my newest gentoo, still barfs. |
| 11:07 |
mod6 |
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../libc.a(jmp-unwind.os): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `__GI___pthread_cleanup_upto' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
| 11:07 |
mod6 |
same thing. |
| 11:07 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: have you tried building a minimal 'hello world' with pthreads under uclibc ? |
| 11:07 |
asciilifeform |
see if same thing |
| 11:07 |
mod6 |
naw, haven't tried yet. |
| 11:08 |
asciilifeform |
i'd like to know which uclibc actually supports pthreads |
| 11:08 |
mod6 |
i'll see if i can get to that here sometime today. |
| 11:08 |
asciilifeform |
(because we know that it does. threading is used in a number of proggies which come with 'buildroot') |
| 11:08 |
asciilifeform |
iirc |
| 11:08 |
mod6 |
ah |
| 11:08 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 granted i'm rusty, but why are you making a shared object ? |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't that dynamically linked by definition ? |
| 11:12 |
mod6 |
i think that's referring to uclibc which is an .so perhaps |
| 11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
have you ever tried putting the actual uclibc source in there and trying a full bore static ? |
| 11:13 |
mod6 |
/lib/libuClibc-0.9.33.2.so |
| 11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
my mind boggles that indeed source there present the compile should fail. i mean... copy / paste it in your own project for chryssakes, if ti comes to it, wtf is this. |
| 11:14 |
mod6 |
yeah, im not really sure. |
| 11:14 |
mod6 |
im getting to the point of 'out of my depth' |
| 11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm not better, tbh. |
| 11:16 |
mod6 |
i've tried like 3 different versions of gcc, with and without my special gcc patch shoehorned in, 2 different versions of uclibc. not quite sure what to think yet. |
| 11:17 |
mod6 |
im sure i'll get it figured out. |
| 11:19 |
mod6 |
here's the error along with the rest of the compilation of the source files from ~30 minutes ago: http://dpaste.com/2CT2N23.txt |
| 11:19 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1RD9JEs ) |
| 11:19 |
pete_dushenski |
mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ? |
| 11:20 |
pete_dushenski |
i was working from 0.0.5 yesterday on debian 7 and all was going well until i had to edit/add 'auth.sh' |
| 11:21 |
pete_dushenski |
which is entirely my own thing to figure out, the instructions are clear |
| 11:21 |
mircea_popescu |
what's -fPic anyway |
| 11:21 |
pete_dushenski |
mod6: just wondering if new 'guide' is available or forthcoming |
| 11:22 |
pete_dushenski |
i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 |
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| 11:23 |
pete_dushenski |
might as well take advantage of the extra eyeballs |
| 11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ? |
| 11:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0004048 = 2.6919 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:25 |
mod6 |
<+pete_dushenski> mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ? << nope. that version should cover everything up through the v0.5.3.1 release. |
| 11:25 |
mod6 |
But, it's probably just easier to download the tarball yourself and extract. |
| 11:26 |
pete_dushenski |
mod6: sounds good. thx ! |
| 11:26 |
mod6 |
Now, for all the patches that have been submitted post-release, you need to apply those patches directly from the mailing list. No guide as of yet. |
| 11:26 |
mod6 |
There will be an update at somepoint once patches are ratified and a new milestone rolled. |
| 11:27 |
mod6 |
<+pete_dushenski> i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 << We're not there yet. |
| 11:27 |
mod6 |
But anyone is welcome to patch on their own. |
| 11:27 |
mod6 |
<+mircea_popescu> mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ? << yeah, worth a shot. |
| 11:28 |
pete_dushenski |
mod6: mkay. standing by then. |
| 11:31 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: I just did the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added the patch for IRC demo, got the following error: |
| 11:32 |
mod6 |
http://dpaste.com/3K00CQD.txt |
| 11:32 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1RDdiuq ) |
| 11:33 |
mod6 |
anyway, will check back into that in a bit... maybe i did something weird. but i'm pretty sure it was the correct order. |
| 11:37 |
mod6 |
while trying to figure out how to set "BUILD_SHARED_LIBS=false" or something, i ran into this; www.cmake.org/pipermail/cmake/2006-October/011418.html |
| 11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo incidentally, know what the "ex wall street executive" bought "bits of pay" for ? |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
seems to have been a "for free" acquisition, "just pay us our salaries" |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
nfi what "hyperledger" even is or was supposed to be, looks like pure accounting fraud but what do i know |
| 11:39 |
ben_vulpes |
"bits of proof"? |
| 11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
some derpy start-up thing. cointerra scammers "acquired", except not really. |
| 11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently was still somehow owned by the ceo. |
| 11:40 |
ben_vulpes |
hm. i was thinking about some java btc thinger. |
| 11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
imagine, principals misrepresenting themselves as "CEO"s. |
| 11:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62000 @ 0.00038959 = 24.1546 BTC [-] {3} |
| 11:45 |
ben_vulpes |
unrelatedly, july looks to be a banner month |
| 11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
whassat ? |
| 11:45 |
ben_vulpes |
~7 humans in office at full time |
| 11:47 |
ben_vulpes |
and there are like 2 other deals with 2-3 people apiece that have yet to die on me |
| 11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
time to get your very own receptionist. |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"Not all, but close to all the states in the United States, the highest paid public official is the football coach at the flagship state university," says sports economist Allen Sanderson, at the University of Chicago. |
| |
↖ |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahaha |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
i had no idea. |
| 11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically they invented this system where they whore the kids out for free during the one time in their life when they're actually peak shape, for which reason ncaa made 1bn in ad revenue in 2012 to the professional league's 500mn. |
| 11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
and since all this extra money exists, it gotta go somewhere, adn well... why not the coach ? |
| 11:54 |
mod6 |
<+mircea_popescu> what's -fPic anyway << position independant coe: Generated machine code is not dependant on located at a specific memory address to work. for example in the asm a jump can be to relitive address [ jne CURRENT+10 ] as opposed to say [ jne 0xDEADBEEF ] |
| 11:54 |
mod6 |
s/coe/code |
| 11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
| 11:56 |
mod6 |
so a shared lib would be able to modfiy/change the addresses as needed to where the lib is loaded into memory. |
| 11:57 |
mod6 |
( for the example [ jne CURRENT+10 ] ), and for the non -fPIC code, the compiler will set these to specific memory addresses. |
| 11:58 |
mod6 |
i.e. ( [ jne 0xdeadbeef ] |
| 11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
well, i'm out of my depth as you say, but it seems to me that importing the whole code into your own project and compiling it statically instead of creating shared libraries is the bedrock solution. |
| 11:59 |
mod6 |
To be clear, shared libs /should/ be using -fPIC. If I understand this correctly. |
| 11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
it should yes |
| 12:00 |
mod6 |
Ah... ok, i think I'm coming to some understanding here. I guess I didn't get that you were saying to compile uclibc /statically/ under our own project just the same as we have say, openssl or boost or bdb? |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
right ? |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
what else to do ? |
| 12:02 |
mod6 |
yeah, certainly could be something to this. |
| 12:02 |
mod6 |
I wouldn't have thought that we'd have to include a statically built linker... |
| 12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
me either, but again, what's to do ? |
| 12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
in any other case this would be a bulbously ugly hack, but here, it actually changes nothing |
| 12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
seeing how the pogo will have to run nothing else anyway |
| 12:03 |
mod6 |
You'd think a linker should be able to produce a statically linked binary, weather itself is dynamcially built or statically built. |
| 12:04 |
mircea_popescu |
you'd think many things |
| 12:05 |
mod6 |
haha. true. |
| 12:05 |
mircea_popescu |
on the other hand, bitcoin on pogo seems destined to end up melded in the kernel anyway, so this is just a sooner/higher up the tree merge than we expected. |
| 12:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00041313 = 8.056 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:10 |
mats |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gay-marriage-and-other-major-rulings-at-the-supreme-court/2015/06/25/ef75a120-1b6d-11e5-bd7f-4611a60dd8e5_story.html |
| 12:10 |
assbot |
Supreme Court rules gay couples nationwide have a right to marry - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IhWo3R ) |
| 12:11 |
pete_dushenski |
relevant: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177269 |
| 12:11 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 06:26:20; mircea_popescu: iirc the faggots licked them. there's not much lower to go after that. |
| 12:13 |
mats |
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/R4LRQKzj |
| 12:13 |
assbot |
Pastebin | IRCCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1dlylUE ) |
| 12:15 |
jurov |
i don't see any point for merging bitcoind to the kernel |
| 12:17 |
jurov |
and why you try so hard to have it statically linked? |
| 12:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the "kernel" only makes sense as a concept if multiple things are being run. if you can fully specify all the code that will run on the machine, that set of all the code IS the kernel. |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
that's exactly the problem with system-d, in other words. |
| 12:19 |
* |
shinohai needs to learn gentoo or something. |
| 12:20 |
decimation |
lol read Scalia's dissent |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, great read. what's it worth ? |
| 12:21 |
decimation |
"So it is not of special importance to me what the law says about mar- riage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today?s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court." |
| 12:21 |
decimation |
nothing |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
the one time they stole people's money in the 30s, there was some guy dissenting on the supreme court. |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
what of it ? |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
scalia's next step is to burn down the supreme court. |
| 12:21 |
decimation |
it's a good point |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
tons of people showed over the years before that same court "your honor i'm terribly sorry i stole and i am not going to do one damned thing about it". |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
now it's his turn. |
| 12:22 |
decimation |
"This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected commit- tee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extrav- agant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most im- portant liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves." |
| 12:22 |
decimation |
if he was consistent, he would be leading the next revolution I guess |
| 12:24 |
decimation |
"With each decision of ours that takes from the People a question properly left to them?with each decision that is unabash- edly based not on law, but on the ?reasoned judgment? of a bare majority of this Court?we move one step closer to being reminded of our impotence." |
| 12:25 |
decimation |
apparently he's reminded of his impotence |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
the us supreme court, along with the entire institutionalised hypocrisy system it represents, has no particular relevancy to the settlement of any point. it'd be about the same to ask them as to ask perez hilton. |
| 12:27 |
decimation |
well, that point became clear with the obamacare decision yesterday |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
should probably stick to discerning which fashions are fashionable and which are not, change the verbiage to "that's hot!" etc. |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe revise the uniform to include small dogs. |
| 12:28 |
decimation |
actually I think it would be interesting if a state said 'fuck you, we ain't havin gay marriage' |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be outright secession. |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
it's what it comes down to. "we do not recognise the supreme court" |
| 12:29 |
decimation |
this whole thing reminds me of the bicker in the parlements before the french revolution |
| 12:30 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: if you were to ask justice roberts, I"m sure he would say that he needs to 'save obamcare' precisely so that the supreme court 'retains legitimacy' |
| |
↖ |
| 12:31 |
decimation |
but if that's true, what kind of 'legitimacy' would this be? |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea what the man would say, and i haven't asked him because i don't give a flying fuck what he thinks |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
on this or any other topic. |
| 12:31 |
decimation |
unfortunately, there are millions of people in the us who adopt these fashions as law |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"(2) The history of marriage is one of both continuity and change. |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
" |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
fgucking unreadable, this crud. |
| 12:32 |
chetty |
the ripple effect will be interesting |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
unfortunately for whom and why'd i care. |
| 12:33 |
decimation |
ironically scalia himself is reduced to mocking the text too |
| 12:33 |
decimation |
"Rights, we are told, can ?rise . . . from a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives define a liberty that remains urgent in our own era.?24 (Huh? How can a better informed under- standing of how constitutional imperatives [whatever that means] define [whatever that means] an urgent liberty [never mind], give birth to a right?) " |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
urgent liberty lmao. |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds like someone needed to pee. |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
why does all this crap read exactly alike, like the same uncultured louts wrote it all ? from reddit to gavin's "opinions" to the scotus majority opinion, all written by the same thirty year old hands that never read anything but summaries of summaries and never did anything whatsoever at all ? |
| 12:37 |
mircea_popescu |
you can tell what sort of people you're dealing with by the sort of rhetorics they favour. and this sort is pretty sad altogether. |
| 12:37 |
decimation |
and the peak of 'libertarian' achievement is to place someone like scalia on the court to old-man rant about what's going wrong |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
he was appointed by reagan if memory serves, and i don't see reagan would think much of your "libertarian achievement" |
| 12:39 |
decimation |
no, probably not |
| 12:39 |
decimation |
of course, roberts was placed on the court after everyone shouted down bush's idea to place his personal lawyer on the court |
| 12:39 |
decimation |
she probably would have made better decisions, not giving much of a fuck about gov't interest |
| 12:39 |
chetty |
roberts is one of regans biggest failures |
| 12:39 |
decimation |
no roberts was bush |
| 12:40 |
decimation |
you are thinking of souter |
| 12:40 |
chetty |
oh guess history is starting to run together ... sigh |
| 12:40 |
decimation |
nope, souter was bush the father |
| 12:40 |
chetty |
ah yes, soute, bah |
| 12:40 |
decimation |
kennedy |
| 12:40 |
decimation |
he was a reagan appointee |
| 12:41 |
chetty |
being on the court surely seems to poison a lot |
| 12:41 |
decimation |
I'm sure they get big important visitors every day telling them about the serious consequences of their decisions |
| 12:41 |
decimation |
I'm not sure how one would retain contact with reality |
| 12:42 |
chetty |
and maybe a little nsa arm twisting |
| 12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
by not giving a shit. |
| 12:43 |
decimation |
actually scalia threatened the nsa along those lines |
| 12:43 |
decimation |
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-03-24/nsa-spying-case-at-the-supreme-court-ooh-says-scalia |
| 12:44 |
assbot |
NSA Spying Case at the Supreme Court? "Ooh," Says Scalia - Businessweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1BSAnYh ) |
| 12:44 |
decimation |
"Despite his intellectual interest in the application of the Fourth Amendment to the conduct of the NSA, he considers it ?stupid? to assume that the Supreme Court will have the last word on whether contemporary surveillance practices are appropriate. Why? Because the judicial branch is the ?least competent? arm of government to evaluate the effectiveness and need for intrusive electronic spying. ?The Supreme Court doesn?t know diddly, |
| 12:45 |
mats |
hm, terror incidents on three continents |
| 12:45 |
mats |
Daesh is coming. |
| 12:46 |
mats |
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/africa/tunisia-terror-attack |
| 12:46 |
assbot |
Terror attacks on 3 continents, including 28 in Tunisia - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxyWLe ) |
| 12:46 |
mats |
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/bomb-strikes-shiite-mosque-kuwait-32044671 |
| 12:46 |
assbot |
IS Affiliate Hits Shiite Mosque in Kuwait, Killing 25 People - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxyX1N ) |
| 12:46 |
mats |
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/europe/france-attack |
| 12:46 |
assbot |
France terror attack: One beheaded, Hollande says - CNN.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxyY5L ) |
| 12:48 |
decimation |
people drive cars into buildings all the time |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
lol is the qntra rabbit eating contraband ? |
| 12:52 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> in my opinion it can be solely accounted for by "I wanna print money too" << more like pure tim swansonism, "why should i have to do what i'm told", but anyways. |
| 12:56 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud daesh |
| 12:56 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Daesh | Sep 24, 2014 ... Fabius argued that since IS is not Islamic and absolutely not a state, he said "... the Arabs call it Daesh..." (from Arabic "to tread upon", ... |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
" She said she is staying about a mile from the main attack scene, but visitors there still took precautions by putting mattresses up against the door to slow any gunmen who might try to barge in." |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
lulzy, the maggots taking measures against the woodpeckers that might be coming in |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"we put a walnut shell in the way!" |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
must be a pretty fun, exciting and fun vacation for the jwz's in question. |
| 13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
The RT network, Kusturica says, is destroying the Hollywood-CNN stereotype of the good and bad guys, where blacks, Hispanics, Russians, Serbs are the villains, and white Americans, wherever you look, are OK! |
| 13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
"'Nuclear war our likely future': Russia & China won't accept US hegemony, Reagan official warns" << they are pretty good at the propaganda angle. |
| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:06 |
mod6 |
ascii_field: here's a sample hello-world with pthreads: http://dpaste.com/29G0ZT0.txt |
| 13:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GxD1iH ) |
| 13:06 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:06 |
mod6 |
nice |
| 13:07 |
mod6 |
not sure if you caught this: |
| 13:07 |
mod6 |
<+mod6> ascii_field: here's a sample hello-world with pthreads: http://dpaste.com/29G0ZT0.txt |
| 13:07 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GxDgtR ) |
| 13:07 |
ascii_field |
mod6: -lpthread |
| 13:07 |
ascii_field |
where is it |
| 13:07 |
mod6 |
our make file has -lpthread in there. |
| 13:07 |
ascii_field |
aha there |
| 13:08 |
ascii_field |
hm |
| 13:10 |
mod6 |
mircea_popescu suggested that we should build uclibc statically itself inside of our bitcoin bundle. |
| 13:10 |
ascii_field |
mod6: thing is, at least for pogo, ~whole shebang~ is to be built 'inside bundle' |
| 13:10 |
ascii_field |
including own compiler |
| 13:10 |
ascii_field |
that's sorta how it works |
| 13:13 |
mod6 |
so gcc as well then. |
| 13:13 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177542 << there is no 0.5.4 as of yet |
| 13:13 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 15:22:38; pete_dushenski: i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 |
| 13:14 |
mod6 |
ascii_field: ok, i guess i didn't get that part about gcc/uclibc being in there with openssl/boost/bdb. |
| 13:16 |
mod6 |
oh, forgot to add in the ldd output for that pthread test: http://dpaste.com/33KYWZ4.txt |
| 13:16 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HkyPsd ) |
| 13:16 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177574 << widely known. the one here gets >1M pretax |
| 13:16 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 15:53:21; mircea_popescu: "Not all, but close to all the states in the United States, the highest paid public official is the football coach at the flagship state university," says sports economist Allen Sanderson, at the University of Chicago. |
| 13:17 |
mircea_popescu |
well im not from around there. lulz of all time, rich coaches. |
| 13:17 |
mod6 |
bread & circuses |
| 13:17 |
ascii_field |
^ |
| 13:17 |
ascii_field |
(it is also widely known that the sport program at virtually all american universities is cash-negative) |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
how's that work ? |
| 13:18 |
ascii_field |
but this function has been outsourced to them, much like writing code for nsa has been |
| 13:18 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: it works the same way the english literature department works, just with five extra zeroes on both sides of the balance sheet |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 13:22 |
mod6 |
ascii_field: oh, i did have an issue patching in that last IRC demo patch.... im gonna try it again, but it complained about net.cpp:ThreadGetMyExternalIP |
| 13:22 |
ascii_field |
mod6: try the following sequence: |
| 13:22 |
mod6 |
(11:31) <+mod6> asciilifeform: I just did the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added the patch for IRC demo, got the following error: |
| 13:22 |
mod6 |
(11:32) <+mod6> http://dpaste.com/3K00CQD.txt |
| 13:22 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HkzPg1 ) |
| 13:22 |
ascii_field |
dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar |
| 13:22 |
mod6 |
ok, i'll give that a shot here quick. |
| 13:23 |
ascii_field |
the two i omitted are small and simple to merge back in when wanted. |
| 13:23 |
ascii_field |
they are only needed for the static build system and so i left them out deliberately |
| 13:23 |
ascii_field |
thinking that mod6 will roll them up into a 'static fix' patch |
| 13:24 |
mod6 |
hmm. |
| 13:24 |
mod6 |
maybe. |
| 13:25 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo incidentally, know what the "ex wall street executive" bought "bits of pay" for ? << NO idea about any of these parts yet |
| 13:26 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar << ok, yup, was able to extract v0.5.3.1-RELEASE and apply these four patches without incident. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
bits of proof not bits of pay. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
mah bad. |
| 13:26 |
ascii_field |
mod6: there we go. |
| 13:27 |
mod6 |
do you want me to post the doxy for that as well then? |
| 13:27 |
ascii_field |
what i suggested was to have two dox pages, one for 'proper release' and one for this. |
| 13:28 |
mod6 |
ah,ok |
| 13:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83800 @ 0.00039801 = 33.3532 BTC [-] {3} |
| 13:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 13:35 |
mod6 |
ok try this out ascii_field: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wDNSSnipAndOrphanagePatches/index.html |
| 13:35 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxIPbR ) |
| 13:36 |
ascii_field |
mod6: irc.cpp is in there |
| 13:36 |
shinohai |
the doxygen is slick |
| 13:36 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar << oh, well you didn' say it in here ;) |
| 13:36 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 13:36 |
mod6 |
i'll take it down, and add the irc patch |
| 13:36 |
mod6 |
my bad. |
| 13:36 |
ascii_field |
ty mod6 |
| 13:37 |
shinohai |
I still haven't done the irc patch. I need to stop being lazy |
| 13:37 |
shinohai |
!up ascii_field |
| 13:37 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: when you apply that patch, please be sure to read the instructions |
| 13:38 |
ascii_field |
(bitcoind will need to be told your box's ip) |
| 13:38 |
shinohai |
No problem, I don't want to break my sweet node xD |
| 13:39 |
trinque |
ascii_field: mod6: would there be any benefit to trying to get an ARM version of this gentoo install going on the pogo? |
| 13:39 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177634 << l0l, guess which country invented 'we had to destroy the village in order to save it' (TM) (R) |
| 13:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 16:30:52; decimation: mircea_popescu: if you were to ask justice roberts, I"m sure he would say that he needs to 'save obamcare' precisely so that the supreme court 'retains legitimacy' |
| 13:39 |
trinque |
I'm going to fiddle with my pogo this weekend anyway. |
| 13:39 |
mod6 |
weird, same problem: dpaste.com/05ZZ443.txt |
| 13:40 |
ascii_field |
mod6: dpaste a copy of your net.cpp |
| 13:40 |
mod6 |
ok |
| 13:41 |
mod6 |
dpaste.com/0HMWFYN.txt |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://dpaste.com/0N2VFMP << what the fuck is this novel braindamage. |
| 13:42 |
assbot |
dpaste: 0N2VFMP ... ( http://bit.ly/1HkDrOV ) |
| 13:42 |
mod6 |
(bbs) |
| 13:42 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: we did this here |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
does curl actually ignore the -tsl flag or does the server go bonkos over ssl3 even being available at all or what the fuck is this |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
anbd why should i be debugging it |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
o we did ? what was it ? |
| 13:43 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-06-2015#1157780 |
| 13:43 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-06-2015 13:03:57; mircea_popescu: curl: (35) Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to www.blockstream.com:443 |
| 13:43 |
ascii_field |
and one other time, before, with phuctor |
| 13:43 |
ascii_field |
(me trying to pull from sks somewhere) |
| 13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
seems that's a different error and no solution was proffered |
| 13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
or am i misreading ? |
| 13:44 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123271 |
| 13:44 |
assbot |
Logged on 06-05-2015 23:40:00; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "OpenSSL: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure" |
| 13:45 |
trinque |
pogo project deferred or what? |
| 13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ohhh right. |
| 13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
damn. |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123203 |
| 13:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 06-05-2015 22:20:53; ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name “keys.mattrude.com” doesn’t match requested host name “keyserver.mattrude.com” << when fetching fresh sks from dulap |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
^ start of thread |
| 13:45 |
ascii_field |
trinque: it can't fly until static build with uclibc |
| 13:45 |
trinque |
ah k |
| 13:46 |
ascii_field |
mod6: please post the net.cpp immediately prior to the failed patch |
| 13:46 |
ascii_field |
(i have my own 0.5.3.1 release one) |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
trinque: the fundamental problem with gentoo on pogo is that pogo is absolute misery to build ~anything~ on |
| 13:49 |
trinque |
I've got crossdev set up on the lappy |
| 13:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.00038779 = 20.3978 BTC [-] |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
then no need for gentoo on pogo |
| 13:49 |
ascii_field |
straight to buildroot |
| 13:49 |
trinque |
k |
| 13:49 |
decimation |
re: football < it's also the case that professional us football uses the college teams as a 'farm system' for talent development, at taxpayer expense |
| 13:50 |
ascii_field |
(which is sorta like gentoo but minus all of the 'daily use' building-new-progs-on-the-box scriptage (i.e. 'emerge') |
| 13:50 |
trinque |
got it; I'll get more acquainted with that tool this weekend then. |
| 13:50 |
ascii_field |
decimation: it's a farm for just about any kind of talent |
| 13:50 |
decimation |
trinque: why not try to use the newest gcc to see if that bug is fixed? |
| 13:51 |
decimation |
ascii_field: but pro baseball has its own junior farm team system, don't need college |
| 13:51 |
decimation |
if you guys need to build gcc as part of the whole package, why does it matter what debian uses |
| 13:51 |
trinque |
decimation: so build the latest set of patches using whatever latest gcc? |
| 13:51 |
decimation |
yeah, or try it |
| 13:51 |
decimation |
it's possible the newest gcc fixes that one issue |
| 13:52 |
trinque |
k |
| 13:52 |
decimation |
with uclib static linking |
| 13:52 |
decimation |
also you need to be careful with the c++ related linking shit |
| 13:52 |
decimation |
the newest gcc might come with a newer version of the std c++ libs |
| 13:53 |
decimation |
you probably need to force it to work with C++ 03 |
| 13:53 |
decimation |
since it is fashionable to change c++ every few years |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 14:08 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:09 |
ascii_field |
http://cryptome.org/2015/06/tsarnaev-1481.pdf << lulzy. ianal, but still had no idea that usa officially had 'total' forfeiture in penal code (i.e., not simply 'items used in connection with the crimes,' but ~everything the schmuck ever touched~) |
| 14:09 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GxPQcE ) |
| 14:10 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds novel |
| 14:10 |
ascii_field |
doesntit. |
| 14:10 |
ascii_field |
cribbed straight from soviet penal code |
| 14:10 |
mircea_popescu |
aye |
| 14:10 |
ascii_field |
'конфискация имущества' |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the things the us will be remembered for are going to be so insulting to the historical usians... |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
almost like the things soviet russia is remembered for |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
or the third reich, for that matter. |
| 14:11 |
ascii_field |
3rd reich 'nervously smokes in the corner' compared to the things 4th reich will be remembered for |
| 14:12 |
ascii_field |
(after all, 3rd 'died young and left a decent-looking corpse' - at least will be seen to have, in contrast!) |
| 14:12 |
ascii_field |
for starters, 3rd never managed (or even attempted) the feat of turning ~an entire planet~ into its toilet |
| 14:13 |
ascii_field |
3rd ran medical experiments on a few thousand prisoners, 4th - on 300+ million schmucks |
| 14:13 |
ascii_field |
could go on. |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah |
| 14:16 |
ascii_field |
the total confiscation thing pretty clearly wants to lay a foundation for 'condemned to cokemachine' |
| 14:17 |
mod6 |
oh i think i know what i missed. |
| 14:17 |
ascii_field |
'...pursuant to rule 32.2(b)(3) of the federal rules of criminal procedure, the united states is hereby authorized to seize the forfeitable assets and maintain them in its secure custody and control.' |
| 14:17 |
mod6 |
the zap patches |
| 14:19 |
ascii_field |
the 'not-a-real-journalist-so-forced-to-reveal-sources' case ('iphone 4' case, iirc) pretty much established precedent that 'inquest isn't punishment' iirc |
| 14:19 |
ascii_field |
and torture is more or less legal by usg's own rules if you are proclaimed 'terrorist' |
| 14:19 |
ascii_field |
so coke machine is not far. |
| 14:20 |
decimation |
ascii_field: well so this is criminal forfeiture right? |
| 14:21 |
punkman |
http://www.nature.com/news/why-the-devious-defecator-case-is-a-landmark-for-us-genetic-privacy-law-1.17857 |
| 14:21 |
assbot |
Why the 'devious defecator' case is a landmark for US genetic-privacy law : Nature News & Comment ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxRVp3 ) |
| 14:21 |
ascii_field |
decimation: aha. what i was getting at is that there will be, in the near future, a very entertaining verdict somewhere, |
| 14:21 |
ascii_field |
where 'if he locked it in a safe, u.s. marshals may break the safe. if he locked it in his brain, same' |
| 14:21 |
decimation |
ascii_field: note that this is another amusing joke on the magna carta, in its 800th year |
| 14:22 |
ascii_field |
'self-limiting' government is the ultimate joke |
| 14:22 |
trinque |
ascii_field: yep, will involve some kind of "cyber terrorism" scenario maybe |
| 14:22 |
decimation |
" |
| 14:22 |
decimation |
(20) For a trivial offence, a free man shall be fined only in proportion to the degree of his offence, and for a serious offence correspondingly, but not so heavily as to deprive him of his livelihood. In the same way, a merchant shall be spared his merchandise, and a husbandman the implements of his husbandry, if they fall upon the mercy of a royal court. None of these fines shall be imposed except by the assessment on oath of reputa |
| 14:22 |
trinque |
^sounds like fag talk |
| 14:23 |
ascii_field |
trinque: not only this, but i also predict specifically that an automated (i.e. robotic, as in 'coke machine') system of interrogation and 'incentivization' will be specifically permitted by u.s. law |
| |
↖ |
| 14:23 |
trinque |
heh, shittier robocop |
| 14:23 |
decimation |
peices are already there with road tickets |
| 14:23 |
ascii_field |
for simple questions like 'enter brainwallet pw' this requires no heroic tech |
| 14:23 |
trinque |
it checks out |
| 14:23 |
decimation |
'justice by mail' |
| 14:24 |
decimation |
ascii_field: the move 'elysium' featured this |
| 14:24 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-06-2015#1174350 << thread, for anyone who missed it |
| 14:24 |
assbot |
Logged on 24-06-2015 17:28:42; ascii_field: it will be replaced - question of ~when~, not ~if~ - by something like an oubliette with a vending machine |
| 14:24 |
ascii_field |
decimation: i must admit, never saw that film |
| 14:24 |
decimation |
matt daemon was grabbed, shook down by police robot |
| 14:24 |
ascii_field |
but it's a rather obvious idea imho |
| 14:25 |
trinque |
the thing which sways my expectations away from such things is the seeming inevitability of a financial collapse |
| 14:25 |
ascii_field |
collapse only changes ~who~ will be placing ~whom~ in the machine |
| 14:25 |
decimation |
yeah. Steve Sailer thinks that Neill Blomkamp is pushing 'reactionary' plots into his movies, but dressing them up in such a way as to make them palatable to liber-tards |
| 14:25 |
ascii_field |
not whether the machine is built |
| 14:25 |
ascii_field |
or whether folks will grunt their last in it |
| 14:26 |
trinque |
maybe so |
| 14:26 |
ascii_field |
and, imho, doesn't change it very much |
| 14:27 |
trinque |
presupposes that the guy put into the machine is using something like bitcoin, doesn't it? |
| 14:27 |
trinque |
most wont be |
| 14:27 |
decimation |
the plot of the movie is that the us turns into shitty third world, and 'actual people' escape to space stations. the plot has some silly shit about helping out the little people, but I think Blomkamp's real point is "start building the space station today" |
| 14:27 |
ascii_field |
trinque: the gedankenexperiment specifically concerns bitcoin or any similar mechanism where answer from the 'patient' is instantly verifiable by machine |
| 14:28 |
trinque |
if the proportion of people using bitcoin stays small, I'd more expect holders to find themselves attacked in their own homes at night |
| 14:28 |
ascii_field |
decimation: again i have not seen this film, but it appears to have the usual nonsensical proviso that the 'space station' is a physical place which the plebes might hope to overrun and devour |
| 14:29 |
ascii_field |
in actual fact, the space station is right here on earth. mircea_popescu, for instance, lives in it |
| 14:29 |
* |
trinque will always fantasize about heading a couple million miles any which way |
| 14:29 |
trinque |
maybe when I'm 90 |
| 14:30 |
decimation |
ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al will some day confront someone else who lays claim to their property in some way |
| 14:30 |
decimation |
it will be interesting to see the result |
| 14:30 |
ascii_field |
trinque: see mircea_popescu's observation about 'money/power' >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-04-2015#1090204 |
| 14:30 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road. |
| 14:31 |
ascii_field |
eventually major btc holders will operate in ways similar to the character 'raven' from neal stephenson's 'snow crash' |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
who went around in a motorcycle with a sidecar containing hbomb |
| 14:32 |
trinque |
ascii_field: I see the point; if a fighter jet is not just itself but the entire apparatus which sustains its operation, all the more a space ship/station |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
trigger tied to a vital signs monitor |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
(if you're within 10km of his death, you're vapour) |
| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
if attempt capture - same |
| 14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation how is this not the case today ? |
| 14:33 |
ascii_field |
at the low end of things, we can at the very least expect an uptick in popularity of sleeping with a frag grenade under your pillow. |
| 14:34 |
ascii_field |
the only solution to this kind of problem is game-theoretical |
| 14:34 |
ascii_field |
as in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-06-2015#1175005 |
| 14:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 25-06-2015 01:52:34; mircea_popescu: oleander blosom sees to it that's the last time YOU're running anywhere. |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: I don't recall you writing about confrontations with the local authorities over the amount of property owed to them? |
| 14:34 |
mircea_popescu |
your original was "someone else". |
| 14:34 |
decimation |
as in, 'the state or its agents' |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
there's for instance an open confrontation wit hthe state of new york over who regulates bitcoin |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
it already made a victim |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
that's now trying shamelessly to make ends meet by selling "compliance services" |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
plenty of examples. |
| 14:35 |
ascii_field |
is that fella 'making ends meet' or laughing himself to death while stoking his furnace with piles of benjies and coke ? |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
if i'm to ask you, the bug i crushed this moirning is laughing all the way to the toilet, too. |
| 14:36 |
* |
ascii_field not personal chum of his, doesn't know |
| 14:36 |
ascii_field |
l0l! |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
in that "the argument could be brought" |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
and that "hey, i don't see any dent in the bug population" |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
and so on. |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
but the question was as to any. there's multiple examples of any-es. |
| 14:37 |
ascii_field |
well idk, but is lawsky living in a sewage pipe? or a house 50x the size of my hovel, with 'sleep ad libitum' ? |
| 14:37 |
ascii_field |
this question at least hypothetically has an answer ? |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
look him up next you're in ny. |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
public servant, lower ranks. he lives in a closet. |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
where does blasio live ? |
| 14:37 |
decimation |
my point was the local state, the one who could most ably summon an army to throw in jail |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
there is no such thing as a "local state" however. |
| 14:39 |
decimation |
I'm sure someone in buenos aires is sitting in jail |
| 14:39 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
<ascii_field> 'self-limiting' government is the ultimate joke << the only limit on government is terrorism. the us has it spelled out in the constitution, "since the only limit to government is a well armed, well organized group of domestic terrorists, people should bear arms" |
| 14:40 |
* |
ascii_field recalls the b-a jail from voyage. it was a very old-fashioned, respectable-looking thing, at least by soviet standards. i'd not be ashamed to sit in it. |
| 14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
the fact that the fat have neglected it doesn't change it. you can similarly neglect to change the oil in your car, this doesn't make the car oil changes "a thing of the past" |
| 14:41 |
ascii_field |
;;google tree of liberty blood |
| 14:41 |
gribble |
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood ...: <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff109180.html>; The tree of liberty... - Jefferson Quotes & Family Letters - Monticello: <http://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/100>; American Creation: Jefferson's "Tree of Liberty" Quote in Context: <http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/08/jeffersons- (1 more message) |
| 14:41 |
ascii_field |
^ sound bite known to probably everyone who speaks engl. |
| 14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation on the jail it is spelled out "Para quién hicieron la carcel? Si el rico nunca entra y el pobre nunca sale." |
| 14:42 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 14:42 |
ascii_field |
though iirc this was a graffiti by the reds ? |
| 14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a country whose president had a prosecutor assasinated earlier this year. |
| 14:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [BTR] 4000 @ 0.00111 = 4.44 BTC |
| 14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
local government indeed. |
| 14:43 |
decimation |
amusingly, it seems usians take government far more seriously |
| 14:43 |
decimation |
while simultaneously complaining of its overreach |
| 14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
<ascii_field> or whether folks will grunt their last in it << i am broadly unconvinced by your theory. there aren't equal sides confronting each other here. i, for one, could not care less for any secrets usg-tard thinks he has. |
| 14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
welcome to take them to the grave, in silence. |
| 14:44 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: what i meant was that i predict btc extraction to become a standard part of execution |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation the only reason the usg is its in present shape is the herd of bloviating hamplanets. nothing else. |
| 14:44 |
ascii_field |
regardless of who/whom |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't. |
| 14:45 |
ascii_field |
curious, why not? |
| 14:45 |
ascii_field |
for instance, picture that you've caught herr karpeles |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
the morally responsible is jwz, not bush not anyone else. yes the president is getting beheaded, that's how symbolics work. and it is the job and the duty of the politico class to play the goat. |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
nevertheless, the guilty is always jwz. and for the obvious reason, too. "only wanted to X" |
| 14:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00039811 = 16.1633 BTC [+] |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field i am not actually profit motivated. i don't see catching her karpeles as a business, and i am not interested in doing it for a profit. |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
similarly, morning';s bug would have gotten crushed equally had it promised to unveil the Bug Saphire for me. |
| 14:46 |
ascii_field |
but if you had. and the contents of his sorry skin meant, say, five extra tank columns |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun care to have the bug saphire. |
| 14:46 |
ascii_field |
that could be had |
| 14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
the republic lives on deficits anyway. |
| 14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
you can have it for his weight in soap. |
| 14:48 |
decimation |
!s jwz |
| 14:48 |
assbot |
9 results for 'jwz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jwz |
| 14:48 |
decimation |
do you me sjw? |
| 14:48 |
ascii_field |
stalin, for instance, was not 'profit-motivated' by any measure. but did not refuse to pocket spanish republic's gold reserve. |
| 14:48 |
ascii_field |
(into sov. pocket, not his own. important distinction) |
| 14:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00041376 = 29.5425 BTC [+] {5} |
| 14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
no. i mean jwz. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1043852 |
| 14:50 |
assbot |
Logged on 06-03-2015 02:23:12; mircea_popescu: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/03/google-seems-to-have-broken-email-forwarding/#comment-160814 << sweet innocence. |
| 14:52 |
ascii_field |
jwz has a very long history of being what he is. |
| 14:52 |
ascii_field |
in case anyone didn't know |
| 14:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what, a symbol for the unthinking fat ? |
| 14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it's basically what this is, neoteny of poor eating habits. "i wanna eat just the cream" "it's unhealthy" "nevertheless" |
| 14:54 |
shinohai |
nice > "Para quién hicieron la carcel? Si el rico nunca entra y el pobre nunca sale." |
| 14:54 |
ascii_field |
as a remora |
| 14:54 |
ascii_field |
sorta like eric raymond |
| 14:54 |
ascii_field |
fella who is ~really good~ at attaching himself to the backs of 'happening' things |
| 14:54 |
decimation |
I thought jwz gave up on 'tech' and opened nightclub |
| 14:54 |
ascii_field |
i'm half-surprised he hasn't turned up 'in bitcoin' |
| 14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently you can never get out of the fucking digital mafia. |
| 14:55 |
decimation |
about 99% of people 'in tech' carry his attitdue |
| 14:55 |
decimation |
"we don't need to worry about politics, just do what must be done" ,etc |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone in the states does this |
| 14:56 |
ascii_field |
decimation: yes, there aren't many who'd refuse going back in time to be butt-buddies with andreessen |
| 14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
then they look at isis as "inexplicable" |
| 14:56 |
ascii_field |
(not gavin, but marc) |
| 14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
and putin doesn't understand how the world works, and so on. |
| 14:57 |
decimation |
well, entire generations were raised under the assumption that the us is in an overwhelming position of power w.r.t. the world |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what memory hole effect is, too. "but they told me when i was five that it's ok to only turn my brain on if i hear a certain magic word" |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ya baby. totally. |
| 14:57 |
decimation |
^ also because those generations were raised by usg |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
alf is worried about connected machinery behaving strangely if it gets magic packet |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile the citizenry behaves strangely if it DOESNT get it. |
| 14:58 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: in popular parlance, this is called 'fnord' iirc |
| 14:58 |
ascii_field |
although with a flipped sign bit |
| 14:58 |
ascii_field |
(iirc term came from same tale as the original lizardhitler) |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
dronf ? |
| 14:58 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
as in "then the drones kept derping and dronfing about who knows what" |
| 15:00 |
ascii_field |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski << pediwik has surprisingly minimally-sycophantic sum-up of jwz's life and times |
| 15:00 |
assbot |
Jamie Zawinski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7h3V ) |
| 15:00 |
decimation |
he probably edited it |
| 15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
who was the other accidental windfall victim who actually WAS into bitcoin ? |
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| 15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
dude sold some bullshit news service to a bullshit media corp (yahoo maybe ?) for a billion |
| 15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
and kept losing money off of it like a gas giant |
| 15:01 |
mod6 |
ok ascii_field: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/index.html |
| 15:01 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7mEU ) |
| 15:01 |
ascii_field |
mod6: neato! |
| 15:02 |
mod6 |
it's a goof-ball way to put in all the patches applied, but that link show's all the patches and how I applied them. |
| 15:02 |
mod6 |
*shows |
| 15:02 |
ascii_field |
wai wat |
| 15:02 |
ascii_field |
it has highlighting of patches ? |
| 15:02 |
ascii_field |
where ? |
| 15:02 |
mod6 |
no no |
| 15:03 |
mod6 |
so at the top of the screen it says "bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt } |
| 15:03 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7qnY ) |
| 15:03 |
ascii_field |
ah |
| 15:03 |
mod6 |
that link in there shows which patches were used, and how they are applied. couldn't find a better way to do this at the moment. |
| 15:03 |
ascii_field |
looking for the graphical class inheritance charts the enemy www had |
| 15:04 |
ascii_field |
i can only guess those were produced via some other means ? |
| 15:04 |
mod6 |
i think i've seen it, one sec. |
| 15:05 |
ascii_field |
btw, here's an idea for later, abolition of the remaining wxisms, e.g., http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/noui_8h.html#a19035390d489756989573cfa572bbde7 |
| 15:05 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/noui.h File Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl7vIp ) |
| 15:05 |
ascii_field |
yes, after the thing runs |
| 15:05 |
ascii_field |
(as mircea_popescu will remind us) |
| 15:05 |
ascii_field |
but that crud clutters up the source and makes my eyes bleed. |
| 15:06 |
mod6 |
yeah, i don't like that either. |
| 15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
indeed removal of all crud is a beloved goal, and how this adventure even begun if you recall |
| 15:06 |
ascii_field |
aha |
| 15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
we're trying to save the trees over here. |
| 15:06 |
* |
ascii_field remembers very well |
| 15:06 |
mod6 |
i think it just ends up munging all of the file names and stuff. |
| 15:06 |
* |
ascii_field still just wants his fscking b00k! |
| 15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
ya somehow i thought you'd remember :D |
| 15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently you're not old enough to need books yet |
| 15:07 |
ascii_field |
re: wx: it is in fact out, but sits behind a bunch of empty #ifdefs |
| 15:07 |
mod6 |
so far, all i see are hierarchal graphs for base-classes/types. was trying to find something for CBlock, but I don't as of yet, see a graph. |
| 15:09 |
mod6 |
like they have: [CBase58Data] <--- [CBitcoinAddress] |
| 15:09 |
mod6 |
that type of thing. |
| 15:09 |
mod6 |
if you show me what enemy has via link, maybe i can replicate it? |
| 15:09 |
ascii_field |
re: jwz: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-01-2015#972750 , http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=09-04-2015#1094056 |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 11-01-2015 04:32:13; asciilifeform: 'digerati', as i understand, encompasses a set of peculiarly wealthy ('dotcom boom', normally, but often barnacled to this or that mega-corp success of some vaguely computerized sort 1980-2000) |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
Logged on 09-04-2015 20:03:03; ascii_field: i mentioned him at least once as specifically an example of a particularly vile species sometimes called 'digerati' |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00041747 = 5.0305 BTC [+] |
| 15:09 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:10 |
ascii_field |
mod6: https://dev.visucore.com/bitcoin/doxygen/namespace_checkpoints.html << example |
| 15:10 |
mod6 |
ok thanks. |
| 15:10 |
ascii_field |
the caller graphs |
| 15:10 |
ascii_field |
specifically |
| 15:11 |
mod6 |
btw, do you like that tree on the left pane? i added that, can remove. |
| 15:11 |
mod6 |
oh ok, i see what you mean... yeah, i can try to get it to work on this side too. |
| 15:12 |
ascii_field |
the tree is useful |
| 15:12 |
mod6 |
i kinda thought so too |
| 15:13 |
mod6 |
oh i found it. CALL_GRAPH and CALLER_GRAPH were set to "NO" in the config file. |
| 15:13 |
mod6 |
lemme regenerate both. |
| 15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field yep node is actually starting up. will undergo some testing. |
| 15:18 |
ascii_field |
neat! |
| 15:19 |
shinohai |
https://i.imgur.com/ksIVhJs.jpg |
| 15:19 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl8oAB ) |
| 15:19 |
trinque |
butt's shooped |
| 15:19 |
shinohai |
sad |
| 15:19 |
mod6 |
huh, maybe those didn't do the trick... |
| 15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6z4ejKXO01qktnjdo1_500.gif better. |
| 15:19 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Hl8rwj ) |
| 15:19 |
* |
mod6 keeps digging. |
| 15:21 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: and, in case anyone forgot that bitcoind was written by the diagnosably retarded, we get to choose between syncing exclusively from mircea_popescu's node ('-connect' mode) and getting to serve blocks to anyone |
| 15:21 |
ascii_field |
that is, can have one but not both |
| 15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't see the problem with serving blocks ? |
| 15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
oh oh |
| 15:21 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: say i want to pull down chain from your node |
| 15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
mmmyeah |
| 15:21 |
ascii_field |
(would like to) |
| 15:22 |
ascii_field |
in the process, my seed doesn't get to seed anyone. |
| 15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
yes yes, it's counterintuitively stupid. |
| 15:22 |
ascii_field |
it's riotously, enragingly stupid |
| 15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
(the production trick to solve this : have two instances running, have them share the files, have one not write) |
| 15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
just to get an idea of what stupid yields downstream |
| 15:24 |
ascii_field |
if i had to predict, would say this does not work as written - threads do not have deterministic behaviour, and bitcoind is peppered with pointless locks |
| 15:24 |
ascii_field |
whole thing is almost optimized for irreproducibility |
| 15:26 |
mod6 |
ok now im building the graphs, just needed to install graphviz |
| 15:27 |
mod6 |
there we go |
| 15:28 |
mod6 |
will post |
| 15:32 |
mod6 |
lol, this thing is 64Mb gzipped |
| 15:41 |
mod6 |
lol, so many files it exceeds the abilities of mv & cp... |
| 15:41 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:44 |
mod6 |
ok |
| 15:44 |
mod6 |
http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/index.html |
| 15:44 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbmoK ) |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/271FHF9 |
| 15:44 |
assbot |
dpaste: 271FHF9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbmoQ ) |
| 15:44 |
deedbot- |
Bad URL or network outage. |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/271FHF9.txt |
| 15:45 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbmFt ) |
| 15:45 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field and anyone else interested ^ |
| 15:45 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: neato! |
| 15:45 |
mod6 |
hey thanks mp! |
| 15:45 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: i recommend also (assuming you haven't done this ages ago) doing equivalent of disabling debug.log rollover (plug in teletype into that pdp-11...) |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
this, mind, is a mystery meat "mp-brand" bitcoind. iirc it identifies as 6.2 |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
it is not the foundation one, which i am going to compile and run once the instructions come out. |
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| 15:46 |
ascii_field |
well yes. but i am assuming it has some mechanism for keeping log |
| 15:46 |
ascii_field |
(if not, ignore) |
| 15:47 |
mats |
https://i.imgur.com/MePcKLj.jpg are you ready for the Islamic State Wrestling Federation |
| 15:47 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HlbwMX ) |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahahaha wut |
| 15:47 |
mats |
*john cena plays in the background* |
| 15:47 |
ascii_field |
mats: source ? |
| 15:48 |
mats |
not sure. one of my buddies linked it... prob one of the chans if i had to guess |
| 15:50 |
ascii_field |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133238/ISIS-cage-death-Terror-group-forces-young-boys-wrestle-inside-giant-steel-ring-beats-sticks-train-generation-killers.html |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
ISIS forces boys to wrestle as they train to become next generation of killers | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL3YCN ) |
| 15:50 |
ascii_field |
^ possible source |
| 15:51 |
mats |
looks right |
| 15:52 |
mats |
looks like good training too |
| 15:54 |
scoopbot_revived |
OpenBSD Moving sudo to Ports http://qntra.net/2015/06/openbsd-moving-sudo-to-ports/ |
| 15:54 |
ascii_field |
the ritual described is at least as old as ww2. don't take my word for it, ask orwell >> http://www.telelib.com/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/tribune/AsIPlease19441229.html |
| 15:54 |
assbot |
29 December 1944 - As I Please - George Orwell, Book, etext ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlcbho ) |
| 15:57 |
ascii_field |
rezun has a very spiffy nearly book-length description of the ru version |
| 15:58 |
ascii_field |
( http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/10.html and more ) |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5oxc ) |
| 15:58 |
mod6 |
<+mod6> asciilifeform: ahh. ok well take a look at this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/index.html << updated with graphs |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5sgx ) |
| 15:58 |
ascii_field |
mod6: very spiffy |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/classCAddress.html#ad062e258e0af8a46d0631078147211b1 << good example for folks who had no idea what this thread was about |
| 15:59 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: CAddress Class Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5Ew4 ) |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
better still, |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/classCNode.html |
| 16:00 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: CNode Class Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1LL5QeN ) |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
(the graphic) |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"As is typical of a C++ program, a lot of code tends to end up in the header files |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
sigh |
| 16:03 |
ascii_field |
~40% of the 'mass' in therealbitcoin is in headers... |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
mmmyeah |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
whjy even bother at this point. |
| 16:03 |
mod6 |
I wanna link these on the main page website. |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
just \call everything .bas |
| 16:04 |
* |
ascii_field just weighed it now |
| 16:04 |
ascii_field |
just about 38 sharp. |
| 16:04 |
ascii_field |
in other nyooz, http://www.firebox.com/product/7078/Inner-Selfie-Stick?via=hp&s=1x1&t=random |
| 16:04 |
assbot |
Inner Selfie Stick - buy at Firebox.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlcZ5V ) |
| 16:05 |
mats |
lol |
| 16:06 |
ascii_field |
l0l re: the rebranding of a very ordinary plumber's borescope sold pretty much everywhere |
| 16:14 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00041676 = 19.5877 BTC [-] {2} |
| 16:21 |
trinque |
ascii_field: read that as firefox at first, thought it was a hell of a pivot for mozilla, lol |
| 16:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57450 @ 0.0004184 = 24.0371 BTC [+] {4} |
| 16:30 |
jurov |
yes, spiffy, i'm surprised... guess btc. yt will be deprecated |
| 16:32 |
ascii_field |
in other news, the 5 repaired rng units pass. |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey. |
| 16:33 |
ascii_field |
(the vendor's explanation for why they failed was dpasted here a while ago, but will be reprinted in this month's broadcast.) |
| 16:34 |
ascii_field |
jurov: actually we really still need btc.yt thing |
| 16:35 |
ascii_field |
'doxygen' doesn't appear to do the handy 'click this and see ~EVERYWHERE~ it appears' symbol concordance |
| 16:35 |
ascii_field |
why it doesn't - i have no idea |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly needs some giggling |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway this looks like it's going to be an epic b-a summer. phuctor delivered, eulora came, nodes are moving, apparently cardano as well, |
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| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
etc etc |
| 16:37 |
ascii_field |
the spice must flow. (tm) (r) |
| 16:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00041764 = 10.0651 BTC [-] |
| 16:43 |
* |
trinque decided to work through the mcclim tutorial today |
| 16:43 |
trinque |
I'm not at all impressed with the fact that when I asked for an education in CS, I was not presented with this. |
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| 16:44 |
trinque |
the clarity of purpose, simplicity, sheer elegance of this thing trumps every other environment I've built things in |
| 16:44 |
trinque |
seems like an alternate history where the terminal concept developed further |
| 16:44 |
trinque |
rather than being replaced with a bunch of consumer friendly skeuomorphic shitware |
| 16:45 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:46 |
ascii_field |
trinque: lisp (and i specifically refer to the accumulated advancements which add up to commonlisp world, rather than the barf of that field's equivalent of 'glbse' - e.g., 'clojure', 'newlisp', other halfwit retardations) handily obsoletes most of what passes for 'problems in computer science' as taught |
| 16:46 |
ascii_field |
hence you were not taught. |
| 16:46 |
ascii_field |
they'd much rather teach 'usability' |
| 16:47 |
ascii_field |
or have you contribute to 'ethereum' for course credit |
| 16:47 |
trinque |
sure, and "marketable skills" like java, c++, or c# |
| 16:47 |
ascii_field |
at 'respectable' uni they make a show of not teaching as much of ^this as they could 'because this isn't trade school after all' |
| 16:48 |
trinque |
I'm on ch3 and I can already bind data to usable UI, selectively update the display, so on |
| 16:48 |
trinque |
in what, 15 lines? |
| 16:48 |
mod6 |
<+ascii_field> in other news, the 5 repaired rng units pass. << nice! |
| 16:48 |
ascii_field |
trinque: now imagine if no part of the machine were exempt. |
| 16:48 |
* |
trinque shudders to recall how the same thing looks elsewhere |
| 16:48 |
trinque |
ascii_field: I can as a novice see the foothills at least |
| 16:48 |
ascii_field |
as in, want to put disk controller registers on the screen? go, do |
| 16:48 |
trinque |
mhm |
| 16:49 |
trinque |
everything expressed as the same kind of data structures |
| 16:49 |
trinque |
can sort of see it |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i was kinda curious when his "Everything is sql" was going to reduce. |
| 16:49 |
trinque |
when I found time for this :) |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 16:51 |
trinque |
I can see that did not go nearly far enough. |
| 16:51 |
ascii_field |
i'll note that lispmachine did not go far enough |
| 16:51 |
ascii_field |
in that it was still a von neumann arch |
| 16:51 |
ascii_field |
where cpu had to 'hand carry in a basket' from point a to b |
| 16:52 |
trinque |
we were sort of bolting postgresql to linux via foreign data wrappers like morons |
| 16:52 |
ascii_field |
rather than electrical connection in programmable grid |
| 16:52 |
trinque |
denying the underlying system like systemd does |
| 16:52 |
trinque |
"pay no attention to the linux behind the curtain" |
| 16:52 |
ascii_field |
gabriel_laddel had something in this spirit; i barfed |
| 16:52 |
trinque |
I tried to build his, couldn't |
| 16:53 |
trinque |
stuff sort of half worked |
| 16:53 |
ascii_field |
lucky |
| 16:53 |
ascii_field |
because the absolute worst thing that can happen is that this kind of monster ~walks~ |
| 16:53 |
ascii_field |
i.e. that it 'works' |
| 16:53 |
ascii_field |
and folks start using. |
| 16:53 |
ascii_field |
and even - shudder - relying on it |
| 16:54 |
trinque |
yeah I begin to see why there's no real intermediate step here. |
| 16:54 |
trinque |
you end up getting lost taping the underlying thing to the interface forever |
| 16:54 |
ascii_field |
i spent the last 5 or so years looking for an intermediate point between here and ic fab |
| 16:55 |
ascii_field |
(so far did not find) |
| 16:55 |
trinque |
seems reasonable enought to resolve for the near term to just run sbcl apps on linux |
| 16:55 |
trinque |
for myself |
| 16:55 |
ascii_field |
until you want to do something like tcp |
| 16:56 |
ascii_field |
(yes, works. but now you have 'guts' in the works, and breakage paths that don't cleanly break into lisp) |
| 16:56 |
trinque |
and that's what corrupts the intermediate-step approach, it seems? |
| 16:56 |
trinque |
what I was trying to get at about tape |
| 16:56 |
ascii_field |
i actually had problems with serial ports when i did the robot thing |
| 16:56 |
ascii_field |
had to write a very ugly c hack |
| 16:56 |
trinque |
like I did a "commonqt" project |
| 16:56 |
trinque |
just ends up that I wrote c++ in lisp |
| 16:57 |
ascii_field |
yes, no way to glue qt in any rational way |
| 16:57 |
ascii_field |
it demands to own the world |
| 16:57 |
ascii_field |
(and it's been tried before) |
| 16:57 |
ascii_field |
http://cmucl-imp.cons.narkive.com/qZKFCJMj/idolino-cmucl-binding-for-qt |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
Idolino: CMUCL Binding for Qt ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyphnD ) |
| 16:58 |
ascii_field |
^ i slaved to try and get that thing to run as a student |
| 16:58 |
ascii_field |
never worked |
| 16:58 |
ascii_field |
(not for me, at least) |
| 16:58 |
trinque |
commonqt ran fine; just that as I perceive it, utterly non-lispy |
| 16:59 |
ascii_field |
and at any rate, i barfed as soon as i discovered that you can't meaningfully compose qt widgets without diving back into the cpp shit pit |
| 16:59 |
ascii_field |
i.e. i wanted to bake a 'text edit' widget with clickable hyperlinks ~active during editing~ |
| 17:00 |
ascii_field |
afaik, TO THIS FUCKING DAY not a SINGLE GUI TOOLKIT will let you do that. |
| 17:00 |
trinque |
it all sees the user as a derp that would never do such a thing |
| 17:00 |
trinque |
or do you just mean dynamically in the code? |
| 17:00 |
ascii_field |
to this day, afaik, i'm the only one who ever wanted this. |
| 17:00 |
ascii_field |
no toolkit will let you do this ~at all~ |
| 17:01 |
trinque |
not even clim? or only it? |
| 17:01 |
trinque |
seems clim would |
| 17:01 |
ascii_field |
clim ~might~ |
| 17:01 |
ascii_field |
problem with clim is that is does not actually work (with usable response time and reliability) on any extant system |
| 17:02 |
trinque |
all I want it to do is display some stuff from postgresql and let me edit data with reasonable performance |
| 17:02 |
trinque |
maybe click a foreign key and get the row it points to |
| 17:03 |
trinque |
so I can stop writing the same derpy app a thousand times |
| 17:03 |
trinque |
everything remotely like this is either garbage worse than excel or some shitty pile of JS (because that's what I want to do, edit my db over http) |
| 17:04 |
trinque |
anyone who has ever written an administration panel for a web thing has wasted his life |
| 17:06 |
trinque |
https://github.com/marmelab/ng-admin << garbage |
| 17:06 |
assbot |
marmelab/ng-admin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyqUlj ) |
| 17:06 |
trinque |
so on, all garbage |
| 17:06 |
ascii_field |
on an entirely other level, the kernel is also garbage |
| 17:07 |
ascii_field |
for fundamentally same reason |
| 17:07 |
ascii_field |
(it being, having been written by the blind.) |
| 17:07 |
ascii_field |
because when you can't physically connect arbitrary flipflops in the machine to the screen, you're - blind. |
| 17:08 |
trinque |
I'm not qualified to say, but it does look like yet another vast C monstrosity from the outside |
| 17:08 |
trinque |
dunno how anyone could ever reason about it |
| 17:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00042236 = 14.2335 BTC [+] |
| 17:08 |
ascii_field |
about items which 'fit in head', there can - on rare occasion - be reasoning. |
| 17:09 |
ascii_field |
about other kinds - only delusion of reasoning. |
| 17:09 |
ascii_field |
(plenty of delusion to go around, though) |
| 17:09 |
trinque |
reminds me of feynman's thing about "nobody's at the wheel" or something like that |
| 17:11 |
trinque |
can't find the actual quote; something about wanting to believe that there's some conspiracy in charge of the world because it's more comfortable than the reality |
| 17:12 |
ascii_field |
evidently he never hung out with brzezinski, mr. controlled-chaos |
| 17:12 |
ascii_field |
(or wishes us to think that he did not!!111) |
| 17:13 |
trinque |
heh! |
| 17:13 |
trinque |
clearly he was a part of the shadowy cabal himself |
| 17:13 |
ascii_field |
in other lulz, |
| 17:13 |
ascii_field |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33281896 |
| 17:13 |
assbot |
French government orders Uber taxi ban after protests - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GysdR9 ) |
| 17:14 |
ascii_field |
and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33296352 |
| 17:14 |
assbot |
One of two escaped US prisoners killed by police - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyssvB ) |
| 17:16 |
jurov |
!up ascii_field |
| 17:17 |
jurov |
fellows, we have with mod6 noticed disconnect between patch IDs in mailing list and in release notes |
| 17:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00042236 = 7.4758 BTC [+] |
| 17:17 |
jurov |
part is that everyone seems to hate mailman renaming them to include the ID |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
i absolutely hate it |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
if i wanted garbage in the name, would put it there myself. |
| 17:18 |
jurov |
yes, you prefer to name everythign "turd", i know |
| 17:18 |
ascii_field |
the hash in the name is useless, because no one signs it |
| 17:19 |
jurov |
how should we (and, the poor system for tracking the signatures), keep them? |
| 17:19 |
ascii_field |
using the given names. |
| 17:19 |
jurov |
no, i won't |
| 17:19 |
jurov |
they are not iunique already |
| 17:20 |
ascii_field |
how is asciilifeform_ver_now_5_4_and_irc_is_gone_and_now_must_give_ip_ebed1af0253ef629bbef4bf2b2d1a94742a81f0e.patch an improvement over asciilifeform_ver_now_5_4_and_irc_is_gone_and_now_must_give_ip.patch ? |
| 17:20 |
ascii_field |
i never released anything lacking a unique and modestly descriptive name |
| 17:20 |
jurov |
much better that turd.patch |
| 17:20 |
ascii_field |
and afaik this goes for the others |
| 17:20 |
ascii_field |
where is this 'turd.patch' ? |
| 17:20 |
ascii_field |
link plz |
| 17:22 |
mod6 |
this is supposed to outline how to name and number the patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html |
| 17:22 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GytUhB ) |
| 17:23 |
jurov |
ok ascii_field not turd , but this leaves things to be desired, too: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html |
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| 17:23 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Gyu7RL ) |
| 17:23 |
jurov |
mod6 you realized your patches are actually worst-named |
| 17:23 |
jurov |
? |
| 17:23 |
mod6 |
why are they the worst? |
| 17:23 |
ascii_field |
jurov: also ought to remember, not all patches are meant as 'canonical' (that is, for eventual inclusion in the tree) |
| 17:24 |
ascii_field |
some can - must - only make sense in thread context |
| 17:25 |
jurov |
well, where is the context what is "portatronic" ought to be? |
| 17:25 |
ascii_field |
it was explained in painful detail in later discussions |
| 17:25 |
mod6 |
i think the nomenclature is pretty straightforward. easy to use. you specify which base your coming off of, the patch name, and a number for any that are required to come before it. |
| 17:25 |
ascii_field |
but for those discussions to make sense, the patch had to be out there |
| 17:26 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177992 <<< halsey minor |
| 17:26 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 19:00:30; mircea_popescu: who was the other accidental windfall victim who actually WAS into bitcoin ? |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nah |
| 17:28 |
mod6 |
anyway, i like the idea of a checksum for the patches. if we can somehow hvae that without it being in the name of the patch, that would be neat. |
| 17:28 |
ascii_field |
mod6: it's in the sig! |
| 17:28 |
ascii_field |
the checksum |
| 17:28 |
ascii_field |
that is the correct place for it |
| 17:28 |
jurov |
the problem is, when i receive detached sig later |
| 17:28 |
ascii_field |
why would these ever come apart ? |
| 17:28 |
jurov |
and user is unwilling to work with patch ID the system must somehow heuristically |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
10.3M/s eta 1h 40m |
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| 17:29 |
jurov |
match it to original submission |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta love modern internets. |
| 17:30 |
jurov |
ascii_field: it was intended to allow other people to send singatures for patches ater they revviewed them |
| 17:30 |
ascii_field |
Ah |
| 17:30 |
mod6 |
so after review you just expect or perhaps exepect to just see a .sig file attached alone without the patch itself? |
| 17:31 |
jurov |
that doesn't matter if alone or not |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field idea was to have one file multiple sigs |
| 17:31 |
mod6 |
lol, i need a flow-chart |
| 17:31 |
jurov |
there must be a way to refer to original submission |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
easy: |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
pull hash out of original sig |
| 17:32 |
jurov |
if not by ID, then people must meticulously keep adhering to original name |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
notice that you don't even need the patch file for this |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
no name shenanigans needed |
| 17:32 |
jurov |
there is lubrary for this? |
| 17:32 |
ascii_field |
just a copy of 'pgpdump' |
| 17:33 |
ascii_field |
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pgpdump |
| 17:33 |
assbot |
pgpdump 1.5 : Python Package Index ... ( http://bit.ly/1GyvUq9 ) |
| 17:33 |
ascii_field |
^ library |
| 17:33 |
jurov |
iirc i have searched for something liek that but did not found it |
| 17:33 |
ascii_field |
^ as used in 'phuctor' |
| 17:34 |
jurov |
you could tell earlier there's a way to get hash from signature |
| 17:34 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178292 << making more seedz ? |
| 17:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 21:29:11; mircea_popescu: 10.3M/s eta 1h 40m |
| 17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
well obviously. |
| 17:34 |
ascii_field |
neat |
| 17:35 |
felipelalli |
deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jTk05D5d |
| 17:35 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GywpQU ) |
| 17:35 |
deedbot- |
rejected: 1 |
| 17:37 |
felipelalli |
!s deedbot |
| 17:37 |
assbot |
1100 results for 'deedbot' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=deedbot |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust assbot felipelalli |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user felipelalli: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=felipelalli | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/felipelalli/ |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
ED5CDE14 that's the right key... |
| 17:39 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178148 << will add to this. in every single field i dive into, i find these 'lisps' - i.e., the ~actual~ state-of-the-art buried under piles of shit strategically crapped out by one, two, more generations of mediocrities |
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| 17:39 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 20:43:32; trinque: I'm not at all impressed with the fact that when I asked for an education in CS, I was not presented with this. |
| 17:40 |
felipelalli |
mircea_popescu: Signature made Sex 26 Jun 2015 18:32:29 BRT using RSA key ID ED5CDE14 |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
sex srsly ? |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque any idea why deedbnot barfs at him ? |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field they're merely trying to survive and perpetuate, them mediocrities.a |
| 17:41 |
ascii_field |
aha, like cockroaches |
| 17:41 |
mod6 |
ascii_field: hey, i'm having a tough time getting the hash itself out of a sig file of mine with that python version of pgpdump. which flag should i be using; i've tried 'em all |
| 17:42 |
ascii_field |
mod6: -a |
| 17:42 |
ascii_field |
and -i |
| 17:43 |
felipelalli |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt |
| 17:43 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GyxOqJ ) |
| 17:43 |
deedbot- |
rejected: 1 |
| 17:43 |
felipelalli |
trying with dpaste now. :/ |
| 17:44 |
mod6 |
dpaste.com/1G0JNPE.txt |
| 17:44 |
trinque |
lemme see |
| 17:44 |
trinque |
it's not the site though, I'm allowing any |
| 17:46 |
jurov |
!up ascii_field |
| 17:47 |
jurov |
app-crypt/pgpdump indeed does not show the hash (and it's not python but binary) |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00041928 = 22.5992 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:47 |
ascii_field |
wrong pgpdump |
| 17:47 |
jurov |
and dev-python/pgpdump has docs dunno where |
| 17:47 |
ascii_field |
(yes, there are two proggies by same name) |
| 17:47 |
mod6 |
it's the one you linked above though 'H? |
| 17:47 |
mod6 |
*eh |
| 17:48 |
ascii_field |
jurov is right though, the one for which i gave the args is the c proggy |
| 17:48 |
ascii_field |
the py one comes with example code iirc |
| 17:49 |
jurov |
ic |
| 17:49 |
trinque |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt |
| 17:49 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1fKEhbF ) |
| 17:49 |
deedbot- |
rejected: 1 |
| 17:50 |
* |
trinque goes to slap deedbot- around in private |
| 17:50 |
felipelalli |
the bot is in a bad mood today. |
| 17:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56050 @ 0.00040243 = 22.5562 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:57 |
mod6 |
ok, i think this thing installed, but i can't figure out how to get it to run lol. |
| 17:58 |
mod6 |
good ole python |
| 17:58 |
mircea_popescu |
bah. from the wunderbar world of undocumented linux gotchas : if you're transferring a file over 2gb, either curl or wget will go into "download one burst, rest for 30 seconds" mode and that's that. |
| 17:58 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf! |
| 17:58 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ielo |
| 17:59 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: never saw this! |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
me either, before now. |
| 17:59 |
ascii_field |
not on any box of mine |
| 17:59 |
ascii_field |
and i routinely move 100G+ |
| 17:59 |
jurov |
looks like server problem |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
26.5G 0 32.3M 0 0 54811 0 6d 00h 0:10:19 6d 00h 86885 |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
26.5G 0 32.6M 0 0 54181 0 6d 02h 0:10:31 6d 01h 0 |
| 17:59 |
ielo |
mircea_popescu, < why does this retard gossip like a 12 year old and you guys believe it? |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
get a load of that. |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
the thing will burst ~3mb, then stop. then burst again then stop. |
| 18:00 |
mircea_popescu |
ielo who are you exactly ? |
| 18:00 |
ielo |
mircea_popescu, i'm just sick of your shit you've independently claimed like 3 people i know are scammers and your life is literally gossiping on the internet |
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| 18:01 |
ielo |
sorry i think you need to stop |
| 18:01 |
jurov |
anyway, looks pgpdump monkeys never bothered to pull actual hash out :/ |
| 18:01 |
* |
jurov dons gloves |
| 18:01 |
mats |
jurov: say again? |
| 18:01 |
ielo |
mircea_popescu, i think you need mental help |
| 18:01 |
mats |
ielo: which people? name them. |
| 18:01 |
ascii_field |
anybody got a vivisection table open for the monkey ? |
| 18:01 |
trinque |
if only we had the nordic system, somebody would help poor mircea_popescu |
| 18:01 |
ascii_field |
mine are occupied |
| 18:02 |
ielo |
amir taak, andrew miller 2 main ones |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
they have the southern system here. |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahaha |
| 18:02 |
jurov |
mats the data structure i get does include "hash_algorithm" but ntohing resembling actual hash |
| 18:02 |
mats |
oh, those are scammers. |
| 18:02 |
ielo |
you are such a shitty person |
| 18:02 |
mats |
sorry bud |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe if your friends would stop scamming / being retarded pieces of shit i wouldn't have to care about their otherwise meaningless existences ? |
| 18:02 |
ielo |
fuck off |
| 18:02 |
ielo |
mircea_popescu, you literally dedicate your life to gossiping about shit you know nothing about |
| 18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
seriously, taaki ? |
| 18:03 |
ielo |
sorry but i remember you |
| 18:03 |
ielo |
from bitcoin conference in london |
| 18:03 |
ielo |
you are such a piece of shit |
| 18:03 |
mats |
jurov: are you saying a pgpdump fn you are calling is misbehaving? |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
umm. |
| 18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ielo would this be the conference where tyhat fucktard nefario told everyone about how mpex is going to be going to jale two weeks before going to jale ? |
| 18:03 |
mats |
trying to figure out if its the library or the thing you're wrenching is at fault |
| 18:04 |
mats |
i am using pgpdump for a project and this is relevant |
| 18:04 |
ielo |
mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you? |
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| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker. and ~confirmed~ that the problem does not exist for files under 2gb. |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fucking hell already nothing works! |
| 18:05 |
ielo |
its really sad that this is your life |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
1 28.5G 1 314M 0 0 10.0M 0 0:48:17 0:00:31 0:47:46 13.7M |
| 18:05 |
jurov |
mats as the .sig file verifies, the hash must be therein |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess im back to slicing archives. ima call them .rar too, in memory of the old days |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
back when everything fucking worked. |
| 18:05 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: you can still get actual rar.. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone know right off how i slice a file into fixed sdized chunks ? |
| 18:06 |
ascii_field |
'split' |
| 18:07 |
ascii_field |
e.g., 'split -b 2048m foo.gz' |
| 18:07 |
mod6 |
yeah split |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
aty. |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
split is slow. |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, ascii_field, apparently the dean is asking some questions eh ? |
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| 18:13 |
ascii_field |
oh!!! |
| 18:13 |
ascii_field |
? |
| 18:13 |
* |
ascii_field did not expect any response |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
well ? |
| 18:13 |
* |
ascii_field looks for hat to eat |
| 18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
chicklet's the sister of one/wife of the other or viceversa. |
| 18:14 |
ascii_field |
what kinda questions |
| 18:14 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
so yeah, why do you people believe me that in fact miller & elaine whatever actually ran an unapproved scam on u of maryland dime ?!?!? |
| 18:15 |
shinohai |
@ ielo Sr. mircea_popescu is quite adept at revealing scammers is probably why. |
| 18:16 |
ascii_field |
the one part i'm unclear on is why the scam needed programmers at all |
| 18:16 |
ascii_field |
iirc 'ethereum' never shipped gadget |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
you read that story about the guy developing a drm thing for the palm pilot ? |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
because that's how you hoodwink investors, that's why! |
| 18:16 |
mats |
the coward fled already, felipelalli |
| 18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
| 18:17 |
felipelalli |
thank you mats! Should I retry or my doc is already published? |
| 18:17 |
ascii_field |
vaguely recall the drm thing |
| 18:17 |
mats |
er, trinque is the maintainer |
| 18:17 |
ascii_field |
'market wants fuffles' |
| 18:18 |
felipelalli |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt |
| 18:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1fKEhbF ) |
| 18:18 |
trinque |
working on it bud |
| 18:18 |
felipelalli |
ah! |
| 18:18 |
trinque |
I'll make sure it goes out |
| 18:18 |
trinque |
just python string nonsense; I should've written this part in bash |
| 18:19 |
felipelalli |
Ah! The problem is the "ã" char!! hahahah |
| 18:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ohohohoh. more python spaghetti ? |
| 18:19 |
trinque |
felipelalli: as always |
| 18:19 |
trinque |
this is just about past my shoot-in-head threshold |
| 18:19 |
felipelalli |
GPG is a little tricky with charsets. |
| 18:19 |
trinque |
gpg likes your doc just fine, and python has your doc as a string identical to what was provided |
| 18:20 |
trinque |
smells like python-gnupg being a piece of shit |
| 18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
split just crashed o.O |
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| 18:20 |
ascii_field |
yeah at some point ~new~ phuctor will run over all the weirdos with non-latinate chars in namestring of key |
| 18:20 |
felipelalli |
the bod would cry with a Japanese doc!! :D |
| 18:21 |
felipelalli |
*bot |
| 18:21 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178455 << hey, i had 'strings' crash. |
| 18:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 22:20:15; mircea_popescu: split just crashed o.O |
| 18:22 |
trinque |
felipelalli: ascii was good enough for the lord and it's good enough for me! |
| 18:22 |
trinque |
jk |
| 18:22 |
mircea_popescu |
atm i suspect it's doing something windows-retarded like "load whole file in memory, split it as a php array, write the result through type conversion" |
| 18:23 |
felipelalli |
asciilifeform agreed. |
| 18:23 |
jurov |
mats, ascii_field pursuant to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4880#section-5.2.2 ,the pgpdump lib stops parsing right on the "Two-octet field holding left 16 bits of signed hash value" and does not go further to decode the signature |
| 18:23 |
assbot |
RFC 4880 - OpenPGP Message Format ... ( http://bit.ly/1fKM09u ) |
| 18:24 |
jurov |
teh joy |
| 18:24 |
felipelalli |
That's why Bitbet.us hate weirdo chars? |
| 18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
it's slower to split than to upload o.O |
| 18:25 |
felipelalli |
trinque: if I add the option --charset=utf-8 when signing, helps something? |
| 18:26 |
trinque |
felipelalli: nah your doc's fine |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov motherfucker! WHO DOES THESE THINGS |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly, two octets should be enough for everyone ? this is how it is ? |
| 18:27 |
jurov |
yes, apparently they balked at decnsing "pkcs1" stuff |
| 18:27 |
jurov |
*decoding |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform srsly, split takes 10 minutes for a 1 gb. upload takes 1 minute. |
| 18:28 |
jurov |
alternatively, maybe curl can be asked to download ranges (if server supports it) |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i tried that with -C but no dice. |
| 18:28 |
jurov |
what's on the other end? |
| 18:29 |
mod6 |
can you use rsync instead? |
| 18:29 |
jurov |
maybe there's some dummy PHP script on server that chokes when hit 2G mem limit |
| 18:30 |
jurov |
(obv such tasks should bypass PHP completely) |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun think php is in any way involved. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 i think i will try rsync yeah |
| 18:32 |
mircea_popescu |
so far this has been an exercise in ridiculous. |
| 18:32 |
trinque |
deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1MWQWQ9.txt |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Cz9Tpw ) |
| 18:32 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 18:32 |
mats |
jurov: and this behavior is the same across c pgpdump and python port? |
| 18:32 |
mod6 |
~ how big is the file? |
| 18:32 |
mircea_popescu |
bout 40 gib |
| 18:32 |
mats |
port as to be found on 'pypi' |
| 18:32 |
mod6 |
ah, well, if you hvae a solid inet connection you can always try scp as a last resort if you have a shell on the target environment too. |
| 18:32 |
trinque |
I "fixed" that by telling python-gnupg to use utf-8 internally as per their docs |
| 18:33 |
trinque |
that iirc might've caused problems with *other* characters (though I don't recall which) so someone ping me if they have trouble with that in the future. |
| 18:33 |
mats |
sorry for repeated queries, am mobile atm |
| 18:33 |
jurov |
mats, since the python one is written to be "inspired by C pgpdump", it's very likely it does not, too |
| 18:33 |
jurov |
trinque what??? |
| 18:33 |
trinque |
jurov: what what |
| 18:34 |
trinque |
;;later tell felipelalli your doc went through |
| 18:34 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 18:34 |
jurov |
trinque: oh nm, you' re about deedbot, not about RFC 4880 |
| 18:34 |
trinque |
ah yeah |
| 18:39 |
jurov |
and no pkcs py decoding code in sight. apparently imma invert this by hand: https://github.com/bdauvergne/python-pkcs1/blob/master/pkcs1/emsa_pkcs1_v15.py |
| 18:39 |
assbot |
python-pkcs1/emsa_pkcs1_v15.py at master · bdauvergne/python-pkcs1 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CzaqYB ) |
| 18:49 |
trinque |
"presentation types" << o hey look another thing I built shittily in der database |
| 18:50 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178406 <<< eh that was me! |
| 18:50 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 22:04:45; ielo: mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you? |
| 18:51 |
cazalla |
can't help but think of this scene when somebody asks what the fuck type of person are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBP522x0xI |
| 18:51 |
assbot |
GoodFellas Full "What's Wrong With You" Scene - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fKSIwo ) |
| 18:55 |
jurov |
The concatenation of the data to be signed, the signature type, *and creation time* ... is hashed. |
| 18:56 |
jurov |
^ so the sig is useless for out purposes |
| 18:56 |
jurov |
*our |
| 18:58 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: ^ we're back to using our own patch hashes somehow |
| 18:58 |
mod6 |
i can't figure out how to get the hash out either, the best i've seen is that "digest algo 10, best of digest 23 49" gives you 2 bytes. |
| 18:59 |
mod6 |
s/best/begin/ |
| 18:59 |
jurov |
mod6 they append date and whatnot to data prior to hashing anyway |
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| 19:00 |
mod6 |
oh, is that per the RFC you pastd? |
| 19:00 |
jurov |
ya |
| 19:06 |
jurov |
the PGP monkeys just did not foresaw any need to put into signature hash of signed document alone |
| 19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
wait what ?! |
| 19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla lmao srsly ? |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought that btcentralplus.com thing is in england. |
| 19:08 |
mod6 |
haha cazalla, great movie. |
| 19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla Jun 26 16:23:33 *amiller (~socrates1@unaffiliated/socrates1024) has joined #bitcoin-assets << also ? |
| 19:10 |
cazalla |
word spreads quickly eh |
| 19:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00039016 = 6.9448 BTC [-] {2} |
| 19:15 |
mats |
!up amiller |
| 19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6r9f19Yny1r2weuio1_1280.jpg |
| 19:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1fKYQ7I ) |
| 19:29 |
mats |
what brings you here, amiller |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 19:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49850 @ 0.00039258 = 19.5701 BTC [+] |
| 20:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47350 @ 0.00038934 = 18.4352 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00039258 = 7.6553 BTC [+] |
| 20:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00039258 = 4.7698 BTC [+] |
| 20:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32563 @ 0.00039258 = 12.7836 BTC [+] |
| 20:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00039258 = 9.4808 BTC [+] |
| 20:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17323 @ 0.00038953 = 6.7478 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40877 @ 0.00038779 = 15.8517 BTC [-] |
| 20:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25170 @ 0.00038736 = 9.7499 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:09 |
mats |
https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue |
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| 21:09 |
assbot |
PGP Key Generator - iGolder ... ( http://bit.ly/1QV0ZhQ ) |
| 21:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39787 @ 0.00039258 = 15.6196 BTC [+] |
| 21:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32228 @ 0.00038939 = 12.5493 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39671 @ 0.00039991 = 15.8648 BTC [+] {2} |
| 21:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00040161 = 9.1366 BTC [+] |
| 21:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00040198 = 10.1701 BTC [+] |
| 21:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00040198 = 15.436 BTC [+] |
| 21:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17914 @ 0.00042164 = 7.5533 BTC [+] {3} |
| 21:52 |
decimation |
mats: is that server-side or does it generate key in javascript? |
| 21:54 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: is your "forever living" comment a slight on "young living"? |
| 21:57 |
mats |
it looks like its all js but i have a shallow understanding of how things in the browser work |
| 21:57 |
decimation |
mats: yeah because server-side would be obviously retarded |
| 21:57 |
mats |
or genius |
| 21:57 |
decimation |
heh |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
no, thereeis scam |
| 22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google forever living aloe vera |
| 22:06 |
gribble |
Forever Living Products - Benefits of Aloe: <https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Page.do?name=benefits>; Aloe Vera Gel - Forever Living Products International: <https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Shop.do?productCode=015>; Forever Living Products | Aloe Vera Products | Multi-Level Marketing ...: <https://www.foreverliving.com/> |
| 22:07 |
decimation |
heh |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
they sell aloe vera for everytying |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
(/me has once rescued a well bosomed oyung lady from their old womanly clutches) |
| 22:09 |
decimation |
no doubt some plant extracts can solve medical issues |
| 22:10 |
decimation |
but often these mlm schemes charge $$$ for dubious products |
| 22:10 |
mircea_popescu |
this thing is strictly separated from any consideration but sales. |
| 22:10 |
mircea_popescu |
aloe vera is useful in dermatology. |
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| 22:11 |
mircea_popescu |
they're selling two gallon potable extract |
| 22:11 |
decimation |
heh |
| 22:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, vegetal goop is potable. no, there's no reason to pay 95 bux or w/e |
| 22:11 |
decimation |
I've had aloe vera yogurt before |
| 22:11 |
decimation |
it was weird |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally ben_ meh |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ? |
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| 22:16 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 22:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25736 @ 0.00042369 = 10.9041 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00041848 = 1.6321 BTC [-] |
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~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 22:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45423 @ 0.0004237 = 19.2457 BTC [+] |
| 22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform ever seen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1120 ? |
| 22:42 |
assbot |
already have block - causing bandwidth to be wasted - vicious circle? · Issue #1120 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1TTgCpc ) |
| 22:43 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the article or the effect described therein ? |
| 22:43 |
mircea_popescu |
"works as intended" |
| 22:43 |
asciilifeform |
almost certain i've seen the effect. |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
in fact, this ~is~ the bastards thing innit. |
| 22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
aaaand notice what the bugger proposes as 'solution on the way' |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
under 'Closing, as it "works as intended". Pull requests to speed up block downloading are on the way and could use testing, see #2964.' |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
guess what 2964 was. |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
i linked you lol, i dun need to guess |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
addressing studio audience! |
| 22:46 |
decimation |
delete all txns without valid blocks on disk? |
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| 22:46 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178565 << and apparently also good for >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177279 |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-06-2015 02:10:49; mircea_popescu: aloe vera is useful in dermatology. |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-06-2015 07:14:51; BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html << still up... |
| 22:47 |
assbot |
CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRrmCS ) |
| 22:47 |
* |
asciilifeform a little surprised |
| 22:47 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: you should audit the class |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in |
| 22:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i really dun expect it'll soon go down. |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: plus it's in working hours |
| 22:48 |
decimation |
ah yeah |
| 22:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26941 @ 0.00042 = 11.3152 BTC [-] |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178590 << tx nuke does this |
| 22:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-06-2015 02:46:03; decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk? |
| 22:53 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah I was being silly |
| 22:56 |
mircea_popescu |
;;bc,stats |
| 22:56 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 362724 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 155 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None |
| 22:57 |
decimation |
;;ticker |
| 22:57 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 243.04, Best ask: 243.13, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 243.13, 24 hour volume: 10324.91808216, 24 hour low: 240.61, 24 hour high: 243.9, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 22:57 |
mircea_popescu |
no changes eh. |
| 22:57 |
decimation |
so much for bitcoin instability |
| 22:57 |
decimation |
it's more stable than eurusd |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
well, it's for sure more stabilizing. |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
so yea. |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178541 << how many 'keybases' are there even. |
| 23:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-06-2015 01:09:10; mats: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
does every derpatron have its own |
| 23:02 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: if done in javascript it's not immediately stupid |
| 23:02 |
decimation |
other than "why?" |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
immediately stupid in the same way keybase is |
| 23:03 |
decimation |
it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
doesn't need to |
| 23:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00040718 = 3.7868 BTC [-] |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
1) did you read the thing. ~every time you loaded it~ 2) does your browser access /dev/random ? |
| 23:04 |
decimation |
yeah I was about to ask where the entropy for the rng comes from |
| 23:04 |
decimation |
don't tell me it's from server |
| 23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
;) |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << this is ~not~ in 0.5.3. it had only '-noirc', default off. |
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| 23:06 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ? |
| 23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
ah did it ? |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 23:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/init.cpp#0168 |
| 23:07 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/init.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRt87d ) |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
and http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/irc.cpp#0261 |
| 23:08 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/irc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtdaJ ) |
| 23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
| 23:09 |
* |
asciilifeform is not proud of having that thing live in his head now - it's gotta be good for something like mental equivalent of 'black lung disease' - but it can be handy |
| 23:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://dpaste.com/14HRFX8 << quick and dirty census off a few hours of a single node running. |
| 23:11 |
assbot |
dpaste: 14HRFX8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtB9o ) |
| 23:11 |
mircea_popescu |
version 70002 - 50 version 70001 - 9 version 60001 - 9 version 60000 - 1 Total - 69 |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key << server side! |
| 23:11 |
assbot |
PGP Key Generator - iGolder ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtH0C ) |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
did nobody ~read~ the src! |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
l0ltr0n1c! |
| 23:12 |
mircea_popescu |
(server itself is declaring 60001, and im unsure what the foundation nodes will say. 50001 maybe ?) |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/serialize_8h_source.html#l00044 |
| 23:14 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/serialize.h Source File ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtXN8 ) |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
is what it'll say. |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
see, www with src is handy |
| 23:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16039 @ 0.00040718 = 6.5308 BTC [-] |
| 23:14 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: wait the server gens the whole key? |
| 23:14 |
mircea_popescu |
not the client version tho, the proto version. |
| 23:15 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: go, look |
| 23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform as there's two. "version" : 60200, "protocolversion" : 60001, for instance |
| 23:18 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism |
| 23:22 |
decimation |
https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/public-speech-is-a-bad-idea/ < heh, even 'gay in tech' sam altman loses against sjw |
| 23:22 |
assbot |
Public speech is a bad idea | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRuIFX ) |
| 23:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00041304 = 9.9336 BTC [+] |
| 23:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"runs for them a short part of the way and for us the whole way". |
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| 23:23 |
mircea_popescu |
the entire shitfest is going to be killed by its own methods. |
| 23:24 |
* |
mircea_popescu eagerly pushing the sword in every chance he gets. |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
singing "you've made your one nail bed, now lie in it" to a happy tune. |
| 23:25 |
mircea_popescu |
nevertheless, "We shall drown, and nobody will save us" is exactly right. they shall, drown. nobody will, save them. |
| 23:26 |
decimation |
well, his reasoning is sound, people have no business on twitter |
| 23:26 |
mircea_popescu |
he does not get to avail himself of this soundness. |
| 23:27 |
mircea_popescu |
he is part of the entire shebang pushing "twitter as a business - business as a twitter" |
| 23:27 |
mircea_popescu |
what's next, "quisling has a point - people should stand up for what they believe in" ? |
| 23:28 |
mircea_popescu |
not a point sam altman may ever have. his points, such as they are, must be of an entirely different nature. |
| 23:28 |
decimation |
ah I thought you meant spandrell |
| 23:28 |
mircea_popescu |
a |
| 23:29 |
decimation |
yeah altman is getting his just deserts |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno about spandrell ever, but who cartes. "note that altman is gay in tech and that didn't save him" ? fu nutso boi. |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
s/ever/either/ |
| 23:30 |
decimation |
he's one of those on the fringe of the 'reactionaries' |
| 23:30 |
decimation |
I think he might actually live in china |
| 23:31 |
* |
mircea_popescu has no idea, so wont' comment. |
| 23:32 |
decimation |
he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/ |
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| 23:32 |
assbot |
Giving the handle | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRvDpW ) |
| 23:33 |
decimation |
" |
| 23:33 |
decimation |
?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??." |
| 23:33 |
decimation |
And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.? |
| 23:33 |
decimation |
And so Wang Jian kept sending messenger asking for stuff, and the King never suspected his loyalty. He liked his pettiness. Wang Jian went forward to invade Chu, destroy its armies, capture his king, and annexed the country into the soon to be Qin Empire. He went back home, and very unusual in a famous general, died a peaceful death. |
| 23:37 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe |
| 23:37 |
decimation |
^ the king (Ying Zheng) was the guy buried with a massive terra cotta army |
| 23:38 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
| 23:39 |
decimation |
whose tomb is apparently still intact, and is rumored to contain an entire map of china with all the rivers made of mercury |
| 23:40 |
mircea_popescu |
mercury evaporates. |
| 23:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32866 @ 0.000414 = 13.6065 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:41 |
decimation |
apparently they don't wanna open the tomb until they can be sure they won't ruin it |
| 23:41 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 23:42 |
decimation |
heh from la wik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang < "Mao Zedong, chairman of the People's Republic of China, was reviled for his persecution of intellectuals. On being compared to the First Emperor, Mao responded: "He buried 460 scholars alive; we have buried forty-six thousand scholars alive... You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold. When you ber |
| 23:42 |
assbot |
Qin Shi Huang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRwx5O ) |
| 23:44 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Saoquim |
| 23:51 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: mega-emperor. to me he is ~the~ emperor of cn, very overworked subject in books on the place i had as a kid |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
esp. re: the 'immortality' business |
| 23:52 |
decimation |
yeah, according to la wik the traditional historiography focuses on his immortality 'schemes' |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
died, iirc, of one too many 'immortality pills' |
| 23:53 |
asciilifeform |
'forever living' ! (tm) |
| 23:53 |
decimation |
yeah as i recall he took mercury pills |
| 23:53 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: did you even play 'romance of the three kingdoms' on nintendo? |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
on emulator |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
but - yes. |
| 23:54 |
decimation |
yeah, it was fun with a group |
| 23:54 |
decimation |
although the menu scroll became annoying |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
it was one of the things that made me go 'folks played games on machines without keyboard ?!! how??!' |
| 23:57 |
decimation |
heh. 'we didn't know better' |
| 23:57 |
decimation |
although I also enjoyed several classic dos games like master of orion and x-wing |
| 23:57 |
asciilifeform |
to me, msdos was ~the~ games platform |
| 23:57 |
asciilifeform |
still is! |
| 23:57 |
decimation |
I believe early nintendo had keyboard (sold in japan) |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
aha, 'famicom' |
| 23:58 |
decimation |
for some reason they declined to enter the 'cheap computer wars' |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console |
| 23:59 |
asciilifeform |
they declined to fight in the 8bit comp wars, and... we still have a nintendo co. to kick around |
| 23:59 |
asciilifeform |
unlike cbm, atari, et al |