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00:06 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113286 << explained in the linked document. crying, whining, cowering -> beating.
00:06 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-22 21:56:48 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113269 << for what precisely did father beat? (rly, for liking maffs?)
00:09 gregorynyssa not being good at sports, or not wanting to play sports or do hiking/camping -> mocking and insulting until I cry, followed by beating.
00:10 gregorynyssa they constantly used rough language with me like a basketball-coach. if I break down and cry at any point -> beating.
00:11 gregorynyssa they also took personal offense at "eccentric" behavior: not understanding so-called "facial expressions," failing to detect sarcasm.
00:14 gregorynyssa responding to rhetorical questions as if they were normal questions.
00:18 gregorynyssa staring at them impassively when they were lecturing me was forbidden. they would find it difficult to continue speaking, and end the lecture.
00:22 gregorynyssa must give "nonverbal feedback" like a normal person, whatever that means
00:22 gregorynyssa "pouting" was also considered offensive and forbidden, whatever that means
~ 16 minutes ~
00:39 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113283 << exactly. since you are also child of immigrants, you understand the feeling.
00:39 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-22 21:55:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113266 << they, by all indications (and rather like asciilifeform's parents) were mistaken re: destination -- thought they had landed in 'vhs america'
~ 1 hours 7 minutes ~
01:46 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113290 >> the removal of sin and racketeering has a non-trivial and objective effect upon the mind.
01:46 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-22 21:58:44 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113277 << how does getting a new passport fix maffs muscles ?
01:48 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113288 << neuroleptics. I know not the exact names. in addition to damaging my
01:48 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-22 21:58:16 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113270 << what sorta drugs? (and did it work?)
01:49 gregorynyssa mental functions, they caused changes in some of my beliefs and preferences, but not in a way which satisfied my parents' demands.
01:51 gregorynyssa for instance, I lost my aversion to profanity. later when the drugging stopped, I felt my beliefs and preferences snapping back to how they
01:51 gregorynyssa were before the drugging. it was the strangest feeling.
~ 8 hours 18 minutes ~
10:10 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113307 << nfi whether 'same feeling', lol
10:10 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 00:38:36 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113283 << exactly. since you are also child of immigrants, you understand the feeling.
10:10 asciilifeform we moved from a ruin to a soon-to-be ruin, nobody 'defected'
10:13 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113300 << asciilifeform when small was similarly sent to pingpong. did not luvv it, and will never win any tournaments, but even today can play reasonably fwiw.
10:13 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 00:08:54 gregorynyssa: not being good at sports, or not wanting to play sports or do hiking/camping -> mocking and insulting until I cry, followed by beating.
10:15 asciilifeform imho children oughta be conscripted to sport in some form -- if not even for exercise, but at least to learn to lose gracefully
10:18 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113302 << gregorynyssa genuinely blind to facial expressions? ( afaik only possible in stroke victims )
10:18 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 00:11:33 gregorynyssa: they also took personal offense at "eccentric" behavior: not understanding so-called "facial expressions," failing to detect sarcasm.
~ 8 hours 11 minutes ~
18:29 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113319 << ping pong and badminton are nice because they are indoor sports.
18:29 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 10:12:47 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113300 << asciilifeform when small was similarly sent to pingpong. did not luvv it, and will never win any tournaments, but even today can play reasonably fwiw.
18:30 gregorynyssa one thing which I regret about not growing up in China was missing out on ping pong and badminton.
18:31 gregorynyssa instead, was forced to play rougher outdoor sports such as basketball and soccer.
18:37 gregorynyssa being someone with good grades as a child, I would have loved to fulfil the athletic requirement by just playing ping pong in an air-conditioned room.
18:39 gregorynyssa my parents rejected accelerated learning, forbade me from reading books outside of school, wanted me to be smart enough to get into a high-ranking
18:39 gregorynyssa university (but no smarter) while also being an athlete.
18:41 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113322 << I wouldn't say "blind" to "facial expressions" exactly, because that presupposes their existence.
18:41 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 10:17:58 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113302 << gregorynyssa genuinely blind to facial expressions? ( afaik only possible in stroke victims )
18:44 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113330 << edit: while pouring my spare energy into being an athlete, and not being a Nerd.
18:44 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 18:38:46 gregorynyssa: university (but no smarter) while also being an athlete.
18:44 gregorynyssa asciilifeform: I think awareness of, and sensitivity to "facial expressions" and other "nonverbal communication" skyrocketed during the 20th century.
18:47 gregorynyssa even today, there are differences between countries. I find that Chinese people are largely "blind" like myself. whereas Chinese who have received
18:47 gregorynyssa American education, and Chinese Americans, are aligned with Americans on the issue.
18:50 jonsykkel monkys and such facial express al the time
18:51 jonsykkel must have preceeded verbal comunication
18:52 gregorynyssa http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113338 << even presupposing an Evolutionary framework (which I don't) the invention of writing
18:52 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 18:50:26 jonsykkel: monkys and such facial express al the time
18:52 gregorynyssa may have suppressed/dampened the "nonverbal communication" faculty, only for that faculty to be re-awakened with the advent of radio and TV.
18:53 gregorynyssa this is basically the thesis of Alphabet versus Goddess by Leonard Shlain.
18:54 gregorynyssa the professors Leonard Shlain, Marshall McLuhan, and Carrolll Quigley all attest to this 20th century "nonverbal communication" skyrocketing.
18:54 gregorynyssa (I recall that "asciilifeform" does not like Quigley.)
19:05 gregorynyssa I still look forward to finishing the rest of the FFA tutorials when mathematics returns to my life. have a nice day, everyone.
~ 18 minutes ~
19:23 jonsykkel gotta get bak to it as wel
19:23 jonsykkel been chillaxing too hard
~ 2 hours 1 minutes ~
21:25 vex phf: pest station is on my list of things to do. The way I picture it, when I get around to it, there will be less drunken rants, but in my heart of herst I know it's not true
21:31 vex it's interesting to hear that gregor is blind to facial expressions. dude has amazing ability disscecting written lang. kinda makes sense.
21:34 mats facial expression perception is cultural
21:34 mats what an enormous wall of whinging
~ 23 minutes ~
21:58 vex nature or nurture?
22:07 vex are you aware that you're whinging about whinging? I can never really get a fix on mats soh
22:15 vex I'll rely on my own
22:18 vex maybe we play ping pong one day mats, you'll laugh. i'm culturally inept
22:23 vex blah blah blah.... holdem tournament
22:25 vex no fighting, no whinging, money on the table
22:29 vex can we shuffle a deck on pestnet?
22:31 vex meh still can't solve the problem of collusion
22:32 * vex goes to think
~ 40 minutes ~
23:12 vex it's a feature. the network will solve for collusion.
23:13 vex wanna build a public urinal phf, go make poker, let them have knobs
23:14 vex battle test fo sure
23:17 vex Or. straight to block discovery
23:24 vex maybe if you're legit, you're txs get into the swarming mempool more easily
23:25 vex maybe we need another genesis block to test
23:29 vex hey stan
23:32 vex you know, all this talk of `boring to the readership', it's kinda getting interesting
23:34 vex you did warn of a final departure
23:36 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4eMyOzD9UI here have some shitty house music
23:38 vex nope, connect then read da logs
23:38 vex such pest
23:43 vex whaddiya move to bermuda with mp or something?
23:45 vex anytime you encounter new skeeters, it always fucks a cunt up
23:46 vex #swarmlife
23:46 vex seriously, half a mile, it's a new swarm with different asfects
23:52 vex i'm with mats. cultural shit is real. network effect
23:54 vex can also explain it with chemisitry, but whatever
23:56 * asciilifeform brought up pestron, but nao lulzily not sees peers, not even folx w/ static ip
23:57 vex hoo ra
23:58 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113374 << nah
23:58 dulapbot Logged on 2022-08-23 23:43:24 vex: whaddiya move to bermuda with mp or something?
23:59 vex afiak bloke is actually dead, we miss his input
23:59 * asciilifeform not resurrected mp, swears
23:59 vex lol. we miss the discussions\
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