01:46 |
vex |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-14#1106755 this is a big missing piece to the puzzle if one were attempt to model a hypotheical bankrun on tether |
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01:46 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-14 12:50:16 signpost: has no commentary on tether, but figures the US will be insisting "unprecedented!" regarding its mistakes all the way down. |
01:51 |
vex |
could already be underway |
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02:13 |
vex |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-14#1106687 I was theorising that noise & heat go up a chinmey. |
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02:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-14 00:37:09 asciilifeform: 'this is server rack, also doubles as pottery kiln and crematorium' lol |
02:16 |
verisimilitude |
Hey vex, want a toy? |
02:16 |
vex |
is it used? |
02:16 |
vex |
go on vermie, whatchu got? |
02:18 |
vex |
lemme guess, you built a thing to relieve amms of tether, I just need to redeem it through aseries of corps? |
02:20 |
verisimilitude |
http://verisimilitudes.net/2022-06-13 |
02:20 |
verisimilitude |
The UDP toy is most interesting. |
02:21 |
verisimilitude |
Just download the sh program and fool around. |
02:24 |
vex |
interesting toy. |
02:25 |
vex |
are you quite sure you didnd just reinvent swahili? |
02:27 |
verisimilitude |
I didn't create toki pona, a Canadian woman did. |
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02:28 |
vex |
oh |
02:39 |
vex |
gee. thanks dad. |
02:50 |
verisimilitude |
It's no issue, child. |
02:50 |
vex |
I'll give it a look. do consider an air rifle if you ever have boys |
02:52 |
vex |
they're read whatever for a daily issue of slugs |
02:54 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-15#1107016 << wai wouldja want to vent the hot air in winter ? |
02:54 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 22:11:11 vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-14#1106687 I was theorising that noise & heat go up a chinmey. |
02:54 |
asciilifeform |
( or to suffer rain, bird's nests, falling brix, on yer boxes, lol ) |
02:55 |
vex |
chimney is peak masonwork, perhaps not my best evar idea |
02:55 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-15#1107013 << wat's to model ? bank runs moar or less go all same way |
02:55 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 21:44:24 vex: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-14#1106755 this is a big missing piece to the puzzle if one were attempt to model a hypotheical bankrun on tether |
02:56 |
vex |
there's been a few in the huffspace, not quite tether yet |
02:57 |
vex |
for starters, need usdt^5/6 (i forget) to redeem |
02:57 |
vex |
mats would know |
03:00 |
vex |
algocoin runs seem to be ~player taking a win |
03:02 |
vex |
there's always a first mover advantage |
03:12 |
vex |
if tether breaks, you'll have your cheapcoinz alf |
03:13 |
asciilifeform |
vex: reich aint aboutta pop ~all~ of its bombs simult |
03:13 |
asciilifeform |
( then, later, wat do ) |
03:14 |
vex |
well, exactly, who's in control? |
03:14 |
asciilifeform |
( granted 'can't underestimate the stupidity of reich' but aint ~that~ stupid normally ) |
03:15 |
vex |
it's all models |
03:16 |
asciilifeform |
vex: suppose martians landed and told you name of lizard hitler; what'd it do, exactly |
03:16 |
vex |
0 |
03:16 |
asciilifeform |
precisely 0 |
03:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-26 15:15:42 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: why would they do that ? |
03:22 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-15#1107027 << asciilifeform was similarly fascinated w/ subj in the 2000s; but imho it's a humlang equiv of scheme (in the sense comtemplated by naggum) |
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03:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 22:25:32 verisimilitude: I didn't create toki pona, a Canadian woman did. |
03:22 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2015-08-07 asciilifeform: hence naggum pissing on scheme as a 'pedo' language that is only loved by folks who like the embryonic stage of things when they have no wrinkles (by his lights) |
03:22 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. if you were to take up attempt at nontrivial use, would bloat rapidly to a moar offensive obesity than commonplace langs |
03:23 |
vex |
dudes frightened of cesars latin |
03:24 |
asciilifeform |
vex: there'll never be any end to attempts at 'latin, but want to fit on a4 sheet' |
03:24 |
asciilifeform |
all end same way |
03:24 |
asciilifeform |
see e.g. lojban. |
03:24 |
vex |
~immpossible tm alf |
03:25 |
asciilifeform |
not that aint fun to try |
03:25 |
vex |
right |
03:26 |
* |
asciilifeform couldn't even fit e.g. pest into a4 sheet. or 20. (dun mean ~no one~ could, naturally) |
03:27 |
asciilifeform |
( + see also re subj ) |
03:27 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-05-31 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe |
03:29 |
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vex recinds the feeling to quote wellington paranormal |
03:30 |
asciilifeform |
in wholly unrelated n00se, apparently sipm can be had naodays for 20-30$, rather than 100-200 |
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03:30 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-08-20 18:26:18 asciilifeform: Aerthean: the 150 $ item is a SiPM ( i.e. micro array of PINs ) |
03:30 |
asciilifeform |
( evidently side effect of reich obsession with detecting smuggled pu ) |
03:31 |
asciilifeform |
( for all the diff it makes ) |
03:31 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-13 20:38:03 asciilifeform: signpost: asciilifeform 100% pro 'whole thing in turnkey iron and for ranchers etc' but with the obv caveats. |
03:36 |
vex |
there's mor than one tractor afficionado on channel |
03:37 |
vex |
phf for instance claims to jailbreak john deere |
03:39 |
vex |
you just know the commie bastard is doing it for a 6 pack |
03:40 |
vex |
nope, he swapped it for a case |
03:47 |
vex |
can u dig it? |
03:53 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zta-TzWkEzs rip pankakke. paint that shit yellow. |
03:54 |
vex |
mining since $2 |
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05:00 |
scoopbot |
New article on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: A Review of ``Out of Their Minds'' by Dennis Shasha and Cathy Lazere |
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05:20 |
verisimilitude |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-15#1107054 I postponed the publish of the following article, in which I list all of the ways the work disgusts me, asciilifeform. I should be able to publish it today. |
05:20 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 23:19:51 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-15#1107027 << asciilifeform was similarly fascinated w/ subj in the 2000s; but imho it's a humlang equiv of scheme (in the sense comtemplated by naggum) |
05:21 |
verisimilitude |
I agree its worthless, and I saw better work to do, but finished it anyway. |
05:22 |
verisimilitude |
The constructed language hides too many complexities of real languages, to the point it could harm research, not help it. |
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06:28 |
vex |
do you know swahili verisimilitude ? |
06:30 |
vex |
was once the language of thrade in eastern africa |
06:30 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
06:31 |
vex |
still prolly is, but less important now |
06:33 |
vex |
if you find yourself in dar el salaam, it might be handy |
06:40 |
vex |
all the old slave traders could talk it |
06:42 |
vex |
got japanese? every bc trade needs it |
06:42 |
mats |
you've piqued his interest |
06:42 |
vex |
the fuckin kraken |
06:42 |
mats |
say more about slaving |
06:43 |
vex |
I don';t know too much matty |
06:47 |
vex |
if you're into history, air bnb is your friend |
06:49 |
vex |
me, i prefer to get off the plane and find a tout to find me the cheapest hotel |
06:52 |
vex |
zanzibar was the spot for slaves |
06:54 |
vex |
you sould rock up speaking latin |
06:56 |
vex |
the sulatan's accountant couls see for miles |
07:08 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMYWC0tMZsk i love thursdays |
07:12 |
vex |
raggedy cunt at the top of the rocks |
07:16 |
vex |
rolling thru the back of stone town. fat muzzie in a face off |
07:16 |
vex |
u wot cunt? |
07:19 |
mats |
https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/james-fok/financial-cold-war |
07:20 |
vex |
can take a name liek Fok now? |
07:21 |
vex |
must be Norway |
07:22 |
vex |
nod to jonsykkel |
07:23 |
jonsykkel |
fokin el m8 |
07:23 |
vex |
north ftw |
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07:42 |
mats |
its a canto family name, if you look at his picture you can immediately tell he's at least half asian |
07:46 |
mats |
https://jamesafok.com/the-asian-century-needs-better-financial-foundations |
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15:16 |
punkman |
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-15/china-says-it-may-have-detected-signals-from-alien-civilizations |
15:20 |
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asciilifeform recalls infamous episode where tesla 'picked up martians', which turned out to be marconi |
15:20 |
* |
signpost affixes tinfoil more tightlier. |
15:20 |
signpost |
it's the limited hangout of the hidden advanced physics research vehicles maaan |
15:22 |
punkman |
USG has also been making noise about "aliens", they got jealous |
15:23 |
asciilifeform |
'we maybe found martians' seems to get run whenever 'need noose distraction, and the arrange-postals dept. is slow' |
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signpost has no doubt there exist other forms of life. and also, that to any capable of such travel, we'd be approx. algae. |
15:25 |
asciilifeform |
prolly worx over9000x better in cn, where '3 body' (their 'war of the worlds') is supposedly ~decade into hyperbestseller |
15:25 |
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asciilifeform read, was lulzy |
15:26 |
signpost |
dunno why there wouldn't be signals pooting out of someone's dyson sphere. |
15:27 |
signpost |
most amusing interpretation of the UAPs thing is imho that they exist, and are entirely autonomous. |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
signals , but 1/dist^2 and c are a bitch |
15:27 |
signpost |
flew in at the first crack of a nuke, and will glass the planet at first artificial wiggle of gravity. |
15:27 |
signpost |
with all credit to clark of course. |
15:28 |
asciilifeform |
classic trope, 'you failed final exam!' |
15:29 |
asciilifeform |
( in the cn version, erry serious civ is busy looking for others to zap, 'we them before they us' etc ) |
15:29 |
signpost |
sounds like post-colonial trauma, lol. |
15:29 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: pretty explicitly. rec'd read. |
15:30 |
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signpost not afraid the chimps will have an uprising any time soon. |
15:30 |
asciilifeform |
complete with quislings ('friendship with aliens society' etc) |
15:30 |
signpost |
will do, already have three-body on the bookshelf enqueued |
15:30 |
asciilifeform |
a |
15:37 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile in other lulz from linked fishwrap. |
15:37 |
asciilifeform |
'Johnson is seeking to represent a class of people who have lost money trading in Dogecoin since April 2019. He is asking for $86 billion in damages, plus triple damages of $172 billion, as well as an order blocking Musk and the companies from promoting Dogecoin, and declaring that Dogecoin trading constitutes gambling under US and New York law.' |
15:44 |
signpost |
lol! |
15:48 |
signpost |
well, the scandalous case of the massage didn't stick, so now this eh? |
15:49 |
signpost |
gets rid of uppity oligarch, and sprays pesticide on "crypto". win win. |
15:51 |
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asciilifeform not sold on the narrative where 'musk -- uppity'. aside from running usg's 'privatized' rocket ministry, d00d also primo contractor in the 'lift btc-usd in plane , to then drop outta it' project, and seems to work a++ |
15:53 |
asciilifeform |
the 'doge' episode imho entirely fits this model, 'help taint btc by association with straight pyramid' |
15:57 |
signpost |
guy's certainly no enemy of printola. |
15:58 |
signpost |
see also: tesla |
15:59 |
signpost |
(most egregious pumping scheme, though obviously spacex also runs on printola) |
16:02 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: not simply 'no enemy', but earning his pay a++ |
16:02 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-11 14:33:08 asciilifeform: fwiw in asciilifeform's cosmography, a sublizard is a 'human' who directly executes orders from lizard, while exposed to 'humans' in daily context |
16:02 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-10 21:39:06 asciilifeform: lizards -- connected directly to printer,brrr; sublizards -- can run outta dough, but pick up phone, get moar (for so long as playing ball) |
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17:52 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-06-16#1107081 << a++ review imho ( asciilifeform read subj, still has on shelf ) |
17:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-16 00:58:17 scoopbot: New article on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: A Review of ``Out of Their Minds'' by Dennis Shasha and Cathy Lazere |
17:55 |
verisimilitude |
I'm flattered. I wound up spending all of my writing time yesterday on it. |
17:58 |
verisimilitude |
Something I didn't mention is how, on page 234, the sole mention of UNIX calls it a great advance in computer science; I notice they didn't interview anyone who worked on UNIX, however; perhaps books in 1995 needed to mention UNIX to sell better. |
17:59 |
asciilifeform |
'unix -- advance' is a 'religious' plank, where folx unwilling to even contemplate the opposite because 'will have to despair, what's left?' |
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18:47 |
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asciilifeform meanwhile paid dc folx their yrly invoice, through jul '23 |
18:48 |
asciilifeform |
pretty great not giving half a fuck what exch rate is. |
18:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-14 19:57:24 asciilifeform: recommends his strategy -- of conducting biz in btc strictly to fill a hodl -- to others, but not under illusion that it is generally applicable |
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22:32 |
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adlai|text says hello |
22:35 |
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shinohai waves at adlai|text |
22:36 |
adlai|text |
my impression from skimming logs is that migration to pestnet is underway, despite the spec still officially being a moving target? |
22:37 |
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adlai|text has been procrastinating studying pestnet, mostly due to the impression that the spec was still a draft, and clients still only rough prototypes |
22:38 |
shinohai |
Both prototype clients work very well, props to awt and jonsykkel |
22:50 |
billymg |
^ no major problems really, works well enough for daily use for months now |
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23:02 |
verisimilitude |
I'm under the impression we'll move by the year's end. |
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23:29 |
asciilifeform |
wb adlai|text |
23:29 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: there's some loose ends, most prominently this one, but asciilifeform doesn't expect major revisions of anyffin else |
23:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-06 14:32:48 asciilifeform: algo ftr, if recall, for 'hard distinguish'. obv. imperfect. |
23:30 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: signpost is working on a lubyism commandset for 1337 w4r3z, but dun expect this'll change any existing mechanism |
23:30 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: prolly coupla other minor things may change |
23:30 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-13 18:16:06 asciilifeform: phf: arguably there's an unnecessary barb in current protocol, where netchain is unused for direct msg sessions -- really oughta be treated as simply special case of broadcast in that sense, where netchain includes the 2 parties strictly |
23:39 |
adlai|text |
I suppose the best favor I could've done myself, a year ago, would've been selling enough coin to have a year of rent sitting in the fiat bank account. |
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23:40 |
asciilifeform |
( the order buffers thing prolly also needs massage & similification, but asciilifeform sadly not has spare cycles atm ) |
23:40 |
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adlai|text is regrettably still living from payment to payment, despite not being anywhere near financial starvation |
23:40 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: 'ifonly bought in '09' etc lol |
23:40 |
adlai|text |
no, this is completely different. |
23:40 |
asciilifeform |
*simplification |
23:40 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: how's that |
23:41 |
adlai|text |
I suppose the difference is not visible from your perspective, since you have been pretty much continuously living off fiat salary. |
23:41 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: not ever lived off anyffin else in adult life |
23:41 |
adlai|text |
over the past ~decade, I've occasionally earned conventional fiat salary, and occasionally lived off family charity (c.f. earlier discussion of 'neet') |
23:42 |
asciilifeform |
a |
23:42 |
adlai|text |
throughout this time, accumulated coin when possible; and now, actually owe rent in my own name, and must begin thinking about timings of selling coin, and what kind of fiat earning job is reasonable, to avoid selling coin. |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: could program in saltmines like ~errybody else lol |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
saltmines always taking fresh meat |
23:43 |
adlai|text |
fwiw, last time I met a doctor, he quite explicitly told me, "you worry too much, go to hospital, wait patiently, you will leave hospital with disability payments" |
23:43 |
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adlai|text does not want to take that kind of dope, however. |
23:44 |
asciilifeform |
^ worx in usa for some folx ( see tlp's piece; can sometimes even get it 'while white', e.g. terry davis; but generally only suffices for 'cat food pension' ) |
23:45 |
adlai|text |
also, saltmines pay ~10x as much as disability payment, and the way things work in Israel (and iiuc, most similar economies), the moment you so much as admit to searching for a job, some opposing lawyer begins cutting off your disability payments. |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
in usa similar, supposedly they send inspectors, 'is mr x ~really~ invalid? or malingerer' etc |
23:45 |
adlai|text |
the napkin-level computations I've made suggest that disability payments are only sufficient for buying your own food, if you live with family, and do not contribute to rent. |
23:46 |
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asciilifeform only aware of subj thirdhand, so cannot comment indepth |
23:47 |
adlai|text |
well, there is some recognition for people being mentally invalid, although it often ends up in "catch-22" situations. |
23:47 |
adlai|text |
fortunately I do have marketable skills, and it's more a question of compromising on what kind of saltmine I consider reasonable. |
23:48 |
asciilifeform |
'what kinda salt mine to rot in' is deeply individual matter |
23:48 |
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adlai|text refuses to apply for dozens of jobs automatically, the same way teenagers apply to dozens of colleges... imo, -EV game |
23:49 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: try the various lolstreet folx, show'em yer old bots etc |
23:50 |
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adlai|text does occasionally get approached by these, it's not difficult to circumvent the various spam filters |
23:51 |
adlai|text |
most recent time, talks died at "what do you mean, you don't videoconference at a moment's notice!?" |
23:51 |
adlai|text |
and, disappointingly often, "you had anything to do with cryptocurrency!? gtfo, terrorist" |
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asciilifeform not fwiw to date encountered anyone who gave a shit either way |
23:52 |
adlai|text |
Israel has strong pressure to always speak the latest buzzwords, even if you are clueless; so people tend to always have opinions one way or another. |
23:53 |
adlai|text |
it makes me seem old and useless, since I ramble and state ignorance, instead of rushing forwards like a headless chicken. |
23:53 |
asciilifeform |
adlai|text: rec to stick to folx who far as possible from bitcoin/shitcoin/etc |
23:54 |
adlai|text |
yeah, that stuff is almost as scrubbed as possible from my most recent resume. |
23:54 |
adlai|text |
supposedly I'm shooting myself in the foot by not including all those buzzwords... well, I probably wouldn't want the job offers that they'd bring! |
23:55 |
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asciilifeform doesn't presume to have actionable tips for folx who not programmed for 20y; prolly reqs very diff approach to saltmine-finding |
23:56 |
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asciilifeform must bbl |
23:56 |
adlai|text |
my resume still is 'programmer' resume; simply, has great big "began academic study, then went on indefinite vacation" section covering past few years. |
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23:56 |
adlai|text |
ttyl |
23:57 |
adlai|text |
it's probably a common situation, because of what the pandemic did to various folks... although I suppose lots of folks benefitted from being able to find remote jobs more easily. |
23:58 |
verisimilitude |
Hello, adlai|text. |
23:59 |
signpost |
imho the muslims got this one right. you're permitted to lie to your enemies under duress, including blasphemy. |
23:59 |
signpost |
stop sitting there twisting your nipples about whether you might have to say "redux" and get a jerb. |