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02:31 asciilifeform phf: imho 'loathesome' does, luckily, come in a spectrum.
02:32 asciilifeform phf: incidentally not long ago met (was buying goodies from) machinist who in fact had lathe at home (what precisely made on it -- do not know, but mentioned model aircraft as interest)
02:35 * asciilifeform does not imagine that this is typical, however, of machinists
02:40 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1104001 << asciilifeform has encountered folx who have (often, msdos) nic-less lappies for writing (human-readable) text on
02:40 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-28 18:04:47 phf: tbh i was hoping this conversation will go into a deeper jeff rasking/oberon/single use machines kind of direction :)
02:41 * asciilifeform fwiw in fact wrote 1st draft of pest sprec on an 'alphasmart'. little toy wordprocessor which runs on 'aa' batteries and worx in sunlight.
02:42 asciilifeform is a pain tho, dunno if will use much again. ( 4ln x 40 character screen, and all of the text had to be remassaged on ordinary comp, unsurprisingly )
02:43 asciilifeform *spec
02:44 asciilifeform ( see also )
02:44 dulapbot (trilema) 2017-04-17 asciilifeform: 'alphasmart' had a terrible keyboard, similar to late '90s crapple. it was originally made for schoolchildren. but it remains cult classic among certain folx.
02:45 asciilifeform these, reportedly, were at one time inflicted on schoolchildren, and often enuff can be had for next to nothing
02:46 * asciilifeform used for the 'sunlight' and 'runs on 1 set of batteries for months' aspect, however, rather than 'not distracts'
02:48 * asciilifeform at one time for this purpose used ancient 'palm pilot' with the add-on kbd
02:49 asciilifeform afaik all such devices suffer from similar ills tho -- 'dollar store'-grade kbd, microscopic screens, and, of course, not being emacs (nor a raskin-style ergonomic muscle car)
02:50 asciilifeform the 'msdos lappy' approach may work for folx who dun care re sunlight or being far from mains socket.
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03:36 crtdaydreams Is there a big enough market for say, a minimal gentoo running on ARM smashed into a thin form factor w/ e-ink display and act primarily as an e-reader but also can plug kbd in and have typewriter
03:38 crtdaydreams run e.g. modified zathura and hacked x11
03:39 crtdaydreams have support to ftp/rsync/syncthing etc. files to (and from) boxen
03:40 * crtdaydreams wonders if possible to get eink disp. running at a reasonable enuff refreshrate that "just worx"
03:42 crtdaydreams requires further research
03:45 crtdaydreams s/big enough market/enough interest/
03:48 crtdaydreams ouch. 450ms.
03:52 crtdaydreams yeah nah, I see what you mean. doubtful that it'll be worthwhile anytime soon
03:53 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1104069 << having spent considerable dough on various experiments in this direction -- asciilifeform presently satisfied that it aint
03:53 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-28 23:38:42 crtdaydreams: wonders if possible to get eink disp. running at a reasonable enuff refreshrate that "just worx"
03:53 asciilifeform e.g. the much-hyped 'dasung' -- garbage imho
03:54 asciilifeform ( yes, 'you can play doom' on it. deceptive marketing, tho -- you dun notice liquishit artifacts from failed erasure when playing that doom )
03:54 asciilifeform when static text tho -- will notice. and ugh.
03:54 crtdaydreams fr?
03:55 asciilifeform hm?
03:55 crtdaydreams looking further into it just seems like another gimmick
03:55 crtdaydreams fr == for real
03:55 verisimilitude Say, asciilifeform and others, consider using Emacs' dabbrev-expand command. I've bound it to S-space. It saves me some effort, on average, I think.
03:56 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: 'eink' is currently a monopoly. all the various boxes use more or less same part, in diff. dimensions, afaik
03:56 crtdaydreams asciilifeform: evident by the proprietary shitware they call "eink driver"
03:56 verisimilitude I should install a foot pedal and bind it to the command.
03:57 asciilifeform verisimilitude: i use 'autocomplete' and 'popup'
03:57 crtdaydreams verisimilitude: is newspeak zoomer language getting too tedious to decipher?
03:58 asciilifeform ( bound to tab )
03:58 verisimilitude Yes, crtdaydreams.
03:58 verisimilitude I loathe ebonics.
03:59 crtdaydreams lolk I'll try to articulate
03:59 verisimilitude Don't try, do.
03:59 crtdaydreams verisimilitude: I was about to s/try//
04:00 crtdaydreams reminds me of george carlin on soft language
04:00 asciilifeform who on what..?
04:00 crtdaydreams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o25I2fzFGoY
04:00 asciilifeform snore
04:00 asciilifeform tedious thread
04:01 crtdaydreams asciilifeform: rather than snore, protip?
04:01 asciilifeform crtdaydreams: expand nonstandard lolcatisms
04:02 asciilifeform otherwise e.g. asciilifeform is stuck guessing whether e.g. 'fr' is q re frame rate
04:02 asciilifeform or frenchmen
04:03 * asciilifeform doesn't speak 'the king's english' nor demands that others do so, but sometimes puzzled when folx who hail from lolcatistan emit these
04:04 crtdaydreams was more rhetorical
04:05 * asciilifeform at any rate will bbl
04:05 crtdaydreams eh. I don't normally think/type like that, slip of the mind.
04:05 crtdaydreams not quite freudian.
04:06 verisimilitude I'm here as I'm elsewhere.
04:17 phf thread 😂😂😂 no cap fr fr
04:18 crtdaydreams phf: aha! a fluent!
04:19 * crtdaydreams got 3 boxes, wonders if they're pregenant men
04:22 * crtdaydreams will continue shenanigans later o/
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08:10 shinohai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1104091 << Before you say "Ain't nobody got time for dat!" learning ebonics could be a [https://archive.ph/C5ciD] [lucrative gig].
08:10 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-28 23:56:23 verisimilitude: I loathe ebonics.
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08:47 verisimilitude It amuses me that ``African-American Vernacular English'' is something the average ebonics speaker would have difficulty pronouncing.
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21:37 punkman http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1103995 <<  having secretary/slave takes care of big chunk of these
21:37 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-28 17:59:30 phf: and the sop is the opposite-- "switch contexts faster! information super highway at fingertips! oh did you know SOMEBODY TAGGED you on INSTAFACE" etc.
21:40 punkman and a general habit of avoiding "notifications".
21:49 verisimilitude A computer is supposed to be a slave.
21:49 verisimilitude Unfortunately, human slaves still work better for now.
21:54 punkman "sit quietly in room alone and jam that twitter feed straight into my veins baby"
22:07 punkman we are addicted to consuming shockingly vast amounts of information
22:08 vex http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-27#1103905 what's the topic? anything I might be interested in?
22:08 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-27 05:11:38 crtdaydreams: vex: I should pop by i'm out your way, should be around there july for a conference in brisy
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22:40 vex I was thinking of going to europe for the summer, but maybe a couple of schooners in the pig'n'whistle is a better option.. what with ww3 kicking off and everything
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23:43 vex shkreli got out
23:46 verisimilitude It's not all bad, punkman.
23:46 verisimilitude I've learned so much due to the Internet.
23:46 verisimilitude I learned of the Latin book I'm reading through the Internet.
23:51 vex I share your distain for amazon verisimilitude, makes me wonder if you're an antipodean too
23:57 vex $50 book, plus shipping and handling, that'll be $230 please sir, expect your book in an unkown number of months and or years
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