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00:02 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081688 << but will staff it w/ imported coolies, slaving extraterritorially ? ... or charge 15x per chip to pay for osha, 'health care', welfarism, etc ?
00:02 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 18:33:33 signpost: https://udumbara.net/tsmc-the-worlds-most-sought-after-company << "TSMC has devised a plan for its Arizona plant to quickly replicate its plants in Taiwan. The move outlines TSMC???s intention to mirror its comprehensive supply chain in Taiwan to the United States due to concerns over Beijing???s potential invasion."
00:02 asciilifeform ( consider wai the orig factories were in tw rather than arizona )
00:07 asciilifeform in other lulz, crapple closes its stores in ru. surely 'putler' will surrender, deprived of ipnoje, apparently goes the thinking.
00:07 mats no need for explosives, the latest node lines require highly esoteric knowledge to run, no?
00:08 asciilifeform mats: the moar interesting q is who, for what, and just how badly, needs 'the latest lines'
00:08 asciilifeform ... to run win11 ? rly need ?
00:09 asciilifeform maybe, not need win11 at all.
00:09 asciilifeform ru mil irons fwiw ~all on 2uM (u, not n..) or 'thicker'. worx a++.
00:10 asciilifeform and, bonus, rad-hard.
00:11 mats nvidia ? amd?
00:11 mats ml things
00:11 asciilifeform mats: i.e. sv hokum ?
00:11 mats if gpus are hokum i guess
00:12 asciilifeform ru folx learned to live w/out roquefort, will learn to live w/out win11, 'call of duty xviii', etc
00:13 asciilifeform long-overdue total exodus from microshit & poetteringware, who knows, also in the cards
00:14 mats talon voice models are trained on a buncha gpus
00:14 asciilifeform mats: whatever incidentally happened to 'transputer' ? entirely fine 'iron nn' arch of 1980s.
00:15 asciilifeform maybe will be rediscovered in ru.
00:15 mats not familiar
00:16 asciilifeform subj
00:21 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081628 << verisimilitude will be pleased to learn that tombs which nobody ups the refcount on, do typically get gc'd eventually.
00:21 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 14:45:18 verisimilitude: I think that graveyards shouldn't exist. They waste land.
00:23 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081639 << the folx printing monopolymoneys by the megatonne, sooner or later will have to stoke furnace w/ it in winter
00:23 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 17:44:09 PeterL: Gazprom dropping like a rock, anybody want to guess best time to grab that knife?
00:24 asciilifeform and with stocks, derivatives, etc. artifacts of financialism.
00:25 asciilifeform ... while the brass ring of 'demand btc for exports' still hanging on the wall for the 1st crowned head with fully working set of balls + brain to grab it
00:25 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 22:28:51 asciilifeform: continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc
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00:41 signpost http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081700 << >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081687
00:41 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 19:01:49 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081688 << but will staff it w/ imported coolies, slaving extraterritorially ? ... or charge 15x per chip to pay for osha, 'health care', welfarism, etc ?
00:41 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 18:32:14 signpost: https://science.house.gov/americacompetes << yup
00:41 signpost with printola, apparently.
00:42 signpost 52bn
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02:22 asciilifeform lol, suppose that'd build 1/2 of an intel fab. if 52e9 of 2010 usd...
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03:25 verisimilitude I don't like birthday cards and the like either, signpost; does this also make me a solipsist?
03:26 signpost no, believing you have the power to declare things you don't understand irrelevant does.
03:26 verisimilitude I understand graves, and dislike the idea.
03:27 verisimilitude Cremation is better, generally.
03:27 signpost don't believe that was the subj
03:27 verisimilitude Okay.
03:28 verisimilitude I don't understand Microsoft Windows either.
03:29 signpost not going to put effort into having a superficial back and forth with you on this.
03:29 verisimilitude Okay.
03:36 verisimilitude I'm not content with accepting everything, signpost; there are things about which I will think, to find a reason to dislike them, and then cut out of my life. We're human, so finding a reason to feel anger, disgust, or resentment helps one stay away from things.
03:50 verisimilitude Hello, bonechewer.
03:50 bonechewer re http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081700 , EETimes has already noticed the culture clash
03:50 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 19:01:49 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081688 << but will staff it w/ imported coolies, slaving extraterritorially ? ... or charge 15x per chip to pay for osha, 'health care', welfarism, etc ?
03:51 * bonechewer can confirm that regular 12+ hour work days are par for the course in Taiwan
03:52 verisimilitude Couldn't the US TSMC simply act more like Intel?
03:52 bonechewer and the stereotype of Americans is as lazy, most certainly including me
03:52 signpost verisimilitude: seems you're having a hard time following. I was talking about this http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081633
03:52 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 17:38:08 signpost: the financial games mean your supply chains fail, sooner or later. then what, reality will bend to your will?
03:52 verisimilitude Well, USSMC by that point.
03:52 signpost which was in reference to http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-01#1081623
03:52 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 14:23:28 verisimilitude: None of these financial games really mean anything.
03:52 signpost but also a broader pattern of you living inside your own head.
03:53 signpost do what you will with this observation. gonna leave it be now.
03:53 verisimilitude These games have been utterly fucked for decades, signpost.
03:53 verisimilitude So?
03:53 bonechewer My Mandarin is minimal (and I am functionally illiterate) but a set phrase when you think someone is being too lackadaisical is "wo meiyou nage meiguo shijian", "I don't have that American time."
03:54 signpost "so" has already been said.
03:55 signpost bonechewer: spent time there?
03:55 bonechewer Yes, regular visitor pre-pandemic
03:57 verisimilitude I can tell my delusions apart from reality, but do enjoy them, signpost.
03:57 bonechewer highly recommend the place fwiw
03:57 verisimilitude I barely recall any of the Chinese courses I took; the language is ghastly.
03:57 signpost bonechewer: definitely want to visit.
03:57 verisimilitude I'd ask my teacher for the etymology of terms, looking for the underlying system, but she never knew.
03:57 signpost bonechewer: curious what your sense of this is
03:57 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 18:29:12 mats: they'll do it for the money, when the dollars dry up from endless mismanagement
03:58 bonechewer ghastly how? The grammar is dead easy. The writing system is amenable to brute force effort.
03:58 verisimilitude It's ghastly compared to Latin, anyway.
03:58 * signpost was using "Hello Chinese" for a bit, picked the transliterated language up quickly (since... forgotten) but the written wouldn't stick.
03:59 bonechewer hmm, I'm at a level where either the etymology is obvious, or the term is too basic to care about etymology
03:59 * bonechewer has not put in the grinding labor and sheer number of hours needed to get the writing system either
03:59 verisimilitude But, yes, if we don't discount brute force, then it be fine enough, I suppose.
03:59 verisimilitude I was only ever interested in reading, not speaking.
04:00 bonechewer Aha. Just the reverse for me.
04:00 verisimilitude I suppose learning Mandarin solves the problem a tad.
04:01 bonechewer about the writing system, signpost, the TW belief is that you don't really know a character unless you can write it with the strokes made the correct direction, in the correct order, and that is how they teach you.
04:01 verisimilitude The television broadcasts have subtitles, but are usually in Mandarin.
04:01 bonechewer I scoffed at that at first, but I find it really does help
04:03 bonechewer verisimilitude: yeah I was referring to Mandarin, gwo yu. I do abysmally with the Mandarin tones, but at least have the hope of slow progress. The Taiwanese (hoklo) tone system absolutely escapes me.
04:04 verisimilitude I need to finish watching the ``Empire of Dust'' documentary.
04:05 signpost bonechewer: doesn't surprise me given the required precision for tone. would expect same level of fine detail in the writing system.
04:05 verisimilitude It concerns Chinese expansion into Africa.
04:05 signpost verisimilitude: I'll check that out as well.
04:05 bonechewer Yeah, we've all seen the "it's all so tiresome" meme from that one
04:06 verisimilitude Yes.
04:06 verisimilitude Latin ``tones'' are easy, short or long.
04:07 verisimilitude I've only issues recalling the long A and long O, since those really are just long and make no very distinct sound.
04:10 bonechewer For me language is a way to communicate with other living humans, which is why I have no interest in Latin, but there are these
04:13 verisimilitude I was just going to bother the local priests.
04:23 bonechewer sounds good, let us know how it goes
04:23 * bonechewer must bbl
04:32 mats podcasts are a great way to pick up another language
04:34 mats there's the instructional stuff, where they play it in en and then yournewlanguage, and there's the edutainment where they talk in spanglish so you get used to hearing the words and don't get classroom fatigue as quickly
04:35 mats there's tens of thousands of hours of excellent free content in virtually every language you'd want to learn, barring the more obscure stuff like cantonese
04:36 mats some folks give away the content and sell classes, one pod i'm in offers zoom-style meetups with 1 instructor and 5-8 seats for learners, it costs $10/mo and they run like twenty sessions a month
04:37 mats never been cheaper or easier to learn a new language
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05:08 asciilifeform meanwhile in footshoot olympics: usg.boeing embargos planes / parts to ru. where (like errywhere) most airlines -- lease. so, shortly, to be shipped back (not so much need for'em nomoar) and flood market...
05:10 asciilifeform (alternatively they could simply stop paying & keep'em)
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05:32 verisimilitude Russia is still sending gas down the pipeline, right?
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06:11 mats yes
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09:56 crtdaydreams meanwhile, chumpatronics [re-inventing the wheel for the 6e9th time.]
09:57 crtdaydreams meanwhile, chumpatronics re-inventing the wheel for the 6e9th time.
10:04 crtdaydreams "muh ai" not gon happen if you don't have *affordable* fab. not to mention a sane building block
10:05 crtdaydreams not even a mention of lispm
10:07 crtdaydreams atleast he recognized the von neumann bottleneck, but without acknowledging alternate arch how can you make an arguement "this is the future, deal with it"
10:09 crtdaydreams i bet he goes home to program in rust on his WSL system ontop win11 and thinks "this is fine."
10:09 crtdaydreams prolly uses light mode too.
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14:45 shinohai $vwap
14:45 busybot The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 43757.63 USD
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15:15 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-03-02#1081805 << order is [link][title]
15:15 bitbot Logged on 2022-03-02 09:57:29 crtdaydreams: meanwhile, chumpatronics re-inventing the wheel for the 6e9th time.
15:15 asciilifeform meanwhile, cement testbed at 519k+.
15:19 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-02#1081808 << asciilifeform recs to eat less pseudoeducational rubbish on lolcattube etc
15:19 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-02 05:07:28 crtdaydreams: atleast he recognized the von neumann bottleneck, but without acknowledging alternate arch how can you make an arguement "this is the future, deal with it"
15:19 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-12-01 asciilifeform: asciilifeform refers to this genre of writing as '10th-dimension', after infamous pseudoscientific b00k/www by same name, which consisted of highly refined 'imponade' (to borrow naggum's) , that is, writing designed to pull the reader's intellectual cock and give a sensation of 'profound insight', 'yes, NAO i UNDERSTAND FIZZZIX!' or similar.
15:21 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-02#1081802 << hilariously, yes, and effectively for phree (i.e. for paperola which they can't even spend, rather than troo coin)
15:21 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-02 00:31:47 verisimilitude: Russia is still sending gas down the pipeline, right?
15:21 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 22:28:51 asciilifeform: continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc
15:23 asciilifeform ... not to mention that the correct time to tighten that noose was 6-8wks ago, rather than nao when winter ending. but see also.
15:23 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
15:25 asciilifeform afaik ru still sending e.g. titanium, heavy crude, etc. to usa also.
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16:26 asciilifeform !w poll
16:26 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
16:26 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725556
16:26 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557 (Operator: asciilifeform)
16:26 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.088s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
16:26 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
16:26 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.091s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557 (Operator: asciilifeform)
16:26 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=725557 (Operator: whaack)
16:26 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
16:26 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
16:26 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.268s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725557
16:26 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.309s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=725080
16:27 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
16:28 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
16:28 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
16:28 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
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16:57 signpost asciilifeform: I expect that the "sanctions" are fake on the other end, too.
16:58 asciilifeform signpost: near as can tell, the mpexing was genuine
16:58 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 22:14:11 mats: bit stale, but the theft of ru central bank money
16:59 signpost lemme see if I can find the article which was claiming that there were easy routes around the swift ban.
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17:16 mats https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-02/will-russia-s-ruble-go-gold-backed-ukraine-war-to-impact-us-dollar-dominance
17:16 mats no mirror available yet or id link it
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17:55 asciilifeform mats: paste txt ?
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18:28 mats http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=CLV4
18:30 asciilifeform mats: ty
18:31 mats https://archive.fo/Zines
18:32 mats >Changpeng ‘CZ’ Zhao said Binance has complied with international government mandates to restrict sanctioned individuals, but that to expand that further would be “unethical for us to do.” The crypto industry follows the “same rules” as banks, he said.
18:33 asciilifeform see also.
18:33 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-01 19:24:58 asciilifeform: ... while the brass ring of 'demand btc for exports' still hanging on the wall for the 1st crowned head with fully working set of balls + brain to grab it
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19:54 billymg based on some of the wailing on twitter it looks as though even usg.coinbase hasn't taken any steps to block russian users yet, see also: https://archive.is/Iqbk2
19:55 billymg good fodder for narrative of "bitcoin allows the baddies to skirt sanctions, we must clamp down harder to protect ourdemocracy"
20:01 billymg does seem like they're losing their grip though, as mats' first article mentions, "Dylan Grice, the former Societe Generale strategist who’s since founded Calderwood Capital, described the recent moves as a “weaponization” of money. “You only get to play the card once,” he tweeted. “China will make it a priority to need no USD before going for Taiwan. It’s a
20:01 billymg turning point in monetary history.”"
20:02 asciilifeform billymg: lulzy built-in disinfo btw (for what would ru need 'exchanges' if were to demand btc for all exports ? )
20:02 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 22:28:51 asciilifeform: continuing w/ this pov -- exactly 0 stopped ru from at any pt in past decade demanding btc payment for gas etc
20:03 asciilifeform exchanges are of strictly plebe interest
20:03 billymg asciilifeform: maybe they will
20:03 billymg would be epic
20:04 asciilifeform billymg: sadly imho unlikely, for obv. reason as well as the fact that moscow also runs a traditional printer-reich
20:04 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 22:21:08 asciilifeform: mats: asciilifeform's guess is that he's hobbled by traitorous ministers who already reserved villas in miami. is the only half-plausible explanation for over9000 'whys'
20:04 billymg i imagine part of the calculations going into that decision is "how much do we thing usg is holding compared to how much we are holding before we send it to the moon"
20:05 billymg think*
20:05 billymg asciilifeform: if putin is hung out to dry, like trump was, would be sad day for the world
20:06 verisimilitude Never weep for a politician.
20:06 billymg i don't give a shit about putin, i care about globohomo losing
20:07 verisimilitude Considering we've not heard about Russian gas chambers and other such things, there's little reason to believe Russia is really out-of-control here.
20:08 verisimilitude Was Donald Trump not controlled by globohomo?
20:08 billymg controlled by or held back by, not sure which, and i guess it makes no difference in the end
20:09 billymg little distinction between "pulls the strings" and "sets the boundaries"
20:09 verisimilitude Sure, but I don't think it really required too much holding back.
20:10 billymg yeah, trump, like all americans, cares too much about his own personal comfort to really risk anything
20:11 billymg and comfort levels in america are still too high it seems
20:11 billymg not sure about putin and russia though. china does not seemed controlled by globohomo
20:11 verisimilitude Not all Americans are like that. Ted Kaczynski and Timothy McVeigh stand out as counterexamples.
20:16 billymg amazing point verisimilitude, i'm sure no one here has heard of those two before
20:18 verisimilitude I would've pointed out more recent and obscure examples, but they would've outed interests of mine.
20:19 verisimilitude China has a new transgender clinic, billymg, but keep on thinking there's no chink in that armor already.
20:29 verisimilitude Oh, and while we're on the topic, don't look into the foreigners who were early members of the Communist Party of China, and who received high honors, billymg.
20:31 billymg verisimilitude: who were they?
20:32 verisimilitude I'd hate to ruin the fun; find out for thyself.
20:36 billymg verisimilitude: if i looked them up i'm sure they'd have many characteristics by which one could choose to describe them. i'm interested to know which of their characteristics make them interesting to you, verisimilitude
20:38 thimbronion shinohai: your pest station appears to be offline according to my address table
20:40 verisimilitude Well, here are three names: Sidney Rittenberg, Israel Epstein, and Sidney Shapiro.
20:41 verisimilitude They've interesting names, right?
20:41 billymg not really
20:41 verisimilitude Tell me more about how China is free from globalist control, billymg.
20:42 billymg tell me more about the connection you see between these three names?
20:42 verisimilitude No.
20:42 PeterL why bring them up if you are not going to explain?
20:43 billymg because he like to troll and bait
20:44 verisimilitude How am I trolling by pointing out early foreign influence with the current Chinese government?
20:44 billymg he's waiting for someone to say "hrm, they sound like they could be jewish surnames", to which he would reply "i never said that"
20:44 bitbot Logged on 2021-01-28 14:44:51 verisimilitude: I didn't mention Jews, but this conversation makes me think of a saying I'd thought of and have been saving since.
20:44 verisimilitude I never wrote that.
20:44 billymg never wrote what?
20:45 verisimilitude Exactly.
20:46 PeterL verisimilitude: is there a point you are trying to make or are you just spinning in circles here?
20:46 verisimilitude Well, billymg was rude to me, so I'm being rude to him in-turn.
20:48 verisimilitude I point out two killers and am mocked; I point out something of which he seemed to be unaware, and am again taunted.
20:48 verisimilitude I'd be interested to read what billymg expects to actually do with any of this information.
20:49 verisimilitude What does it really matter, to us, what Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, compared to more local matters?
20:50 verisimilitude What they do, that is.
20:50 billymg verisimilitude: that last one i can agree with. more important is what we can control. e.g. trb, pestnet, etc.
20:51 billymg verisimilitude: likewise, what does it matter what da jooz do?
20:51 verisimilitude Sans a very personal reason, I suppose it mostly doesn't, billymg.
20:52 verisimilitude Still, when people discuss Football every day, it occasionally matters to point out who own the teams.
20:53 verisimilitude Be they lizards, illumanit, Jews, or aliens, it's more interesting than reading about what the quarterback did to a hooker.
20:53 verisimilitude Illuminati, that is.
20:54 billymg verisimilitude: suppose it was lizards who owned the football teams, and suppose you were also -- a lizard. just not one of The Lizards. would this change things?
20:54 verisimilitude But, no, all my knowledge really does is make me increasingly paranoid and distrustful.
20:55 verisimilitude Sure it would.
20:55 billymg how so?
20:55 verisimilitude Would I care about the plight of the poor were I rich? I probably wouldn't.
20:55 billymg re-read what i wrote
20:55 verisimilitude I'm shaped by my time and circumstances, obviously.
20:56 verisimilitude I thought I understood what was written.
20:56 scoopbot New article on Thimbron: Blatta 9981 - Replay Notices
20:57 billymg in this scenario the football teams are owned by lizards (rich and powerful ones). you are also a lizard (the species) but you are not rich, nor powerful, nor a member of their club.
20:58 verisimilitude I'd resent them as I resent the wealthy now.
20:58 verisimilitude I suppose it wouldn't.
20:58 billymg right, that's the only point i was trying to make
20:59 verisimilitude Before anyone mentions it, I don't secretly seethe at adlai; I actually like him more than some of you.
21:00 verisimilitude I taught myself long ago that it's unreasonable to make broad generalizations about groups of people.
21:00 verisimilitude Groups that aren't people, think machinery or aliens, deserve no such sympathy, however.
21:01 verisimilitude See why honest men should still lie to machines.
21:11 mats chinese and jews have a lot in common
21:11 mats they eat at the same restaurants on christmas
21:16 verisimilitude I've only written one joke about China I currently recall; care to read it?
21:17 thimbronion mats ever read any of Amy Chua's books?
21:23 mats nope
21:24 mats verisimilitude: lay it on us
21:24 verisimilitude Regarding my machine customization or ``ricing'': I rice so little one could confuse me with China's Great Leap Forward.
21:26 mats a fun rice fact many are unaware of is that white rice is a historical luxury
21:27 verisimilitude Brown rice tastes better anyway.
21:27 mats it’s labor intensive to refine and polish, so most chinese ate millet, brown rice, and other grains
21:28 verisimilitude So my joke was that bad, was it?
21:29 mats i tried to be gracious about it, but yes
21:29 verisimilitude It got laughs from all others to whom I've told it.
21:30 mats ha ha, yellow famine
21:30 verisimilitude Care for a different joke?
21:31 mats hard pass
21:31 verisimilitude It's a much better one, but alright.
21:32 PeterL verisimilitude: were they laughing at the joke or laughing at how horrible of a joke it was?
21:33 verisimilitude It was the former.
21:33 verisimilitude Care for a better joke I wrote in the shower, PeterL?
21:34 PeterL can't be any worse than the last one?
21:35 verisimilitude How do we know God likes cryptography?
21:35 verisimilitude He always has plausible deniability.
21:44 shinohai He also has perfect forward secrecy.
21:44 thimbronion [ https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jan/08/tiger-mother-theory-cultural-group-jews-chinese ] [ Amy Chua in a nutshell ]
21:45 shinohai thimbronion: Ack re: pest station, gonna throw it on the znc server asap
21:46 PeterL verisimilitude: I dun get it?
21:47 verisimilitude No one can prove god exists.
21:47 verisimilitude He has a propertly commonly ascribed to cryptographic systems.
21:47 verisimilitude That's the joke.
22:01 verisimilitude This is a tough channel for jokes, I see. I'll leave this list and be done with it for now.
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22:36 shinohai Here's one for you in comic form verisimilitude http://btc.info.gf/uploads/CLISP.jpg
22:39 verisimilitude I recall that one, yes.
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23:04 thimbronion verisimilitude: the thing about humor is you have to know your audience
23:05 thimbronion My 11 yo often tells me jokes that her friends find hilarious but don't land with me at all
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23:26 verisimilitude I don't know this audience as well as first figured.
23:28 verisimilitude I thought surely the cryptography joke would hit.
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23:54 verisimilitude What jokes are the children telling nowadays, thimbronion?
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