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00:21 verisimilitude Yes, we could chat about how our skin is melting off, say.
00:23 verisimilitude Joking aside, is anyone here even near Russia?
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00:59 signpost verisimilitude: hey man, I'll toast the end with y'all.
00:59 signpost doubt it's likely to get that far.
01:02 verisimilitude Yes, thanks to brave people like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30493948
01:02 verisimilitude The ``tech companies'' need to interfere in geopolitics, for democracy's sake.
01:06 signpost hoping these arrogant fuckers at least experience a little educative hunger.
01:08 verisimilitude I don't think that would work anymore.
01:08 verisimilitude ``This is just like when Harry Potter lived in the woods you guys!''
01:09 signpost I wouldn't expect that fantasy to impact reality gently.
01:12 signpost what'd it take in 2020, a month or two of unemployment before riots?
01:19 verisimilitude Weren't those negro riots?
01:23 verisimilitude Yes; they'll riot whenever the TV commands them, signpost.
01:27 vex got a tranciever wrapped in lead somewhere signpost?
01:28 vex I'll prolly get texas if shit goes quiet
01:31 signpost verisimilitude: looked to be mostly idle white kids to me.
01:31 signpost vex: nah, if shit gets that bad there's not much left to do.
01:32 signpost I probably wont be in Texas much longer. I've just been waiting on a real estate implosion to relocate.
01:32 * signpost sniffs, smells capitulation.
01:36 mats do you think that's likely? housing supply is tight all over
01:37 mats and probably will be for years
01:38 mats low interest rates pulled forward a lot of buying
01:41 verisimilitude Say, asciilifeform, I'm going to try my different approach to UDP in Ada again, modelling the grotesque C structs with Ada to avoid C as much as feasible. This will, unfortunately, break when the underlying definitions change across UNIXen, but this is acceptable to me.
01:42 vex it's not going straight to 30% tho is it mats?
01:43 signpost mats: my sense is that a recession will cause a lot of downsizing.
01:43 signpost where I'm looking there aren't a lot of buyers either.
01:44 verisimilitude That requires owning things to downsize.
01:44 vex i guess a couple of pips might hurt ppl
01:44 verisimilitude We know the people who own the most things will be fine.
01:46 vex what's the bet alf paid cash
01:54 vex don't want a lien on the dead trees & hardware storage
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02:12 vex thimbronion, did you solve for pest dupes?
02:15 * vex weighs the emotional damage that could be done if wot cunts could rate'im
02:16 vex cdd whtchu reckon kid? sink or swim?
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02:26 vex i'm trying to thing of an awesome. jp honorific for verisimilitude's yotsuba
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02:26 verisimilitude What?
02:27 vex run ur own matey
02:27 vex chan, kun... there must be a better descriptor
02:28 verisimilitude The word being sought is ``imageboard''.
02:28 verisimilitude I already help run one, vex.
02:28 vex ah, which is that?
02:29 verisimilitude It's Lainchan.
02:30 verisimilitude Read the rules before posting.
02:34 verisimilitude To inform those here, I loathe the Japanese nature of most imageboards, and suppress it.
02:36 vex chan implicitly describes those which are kawaii desu ne?
02:38 verisimilitude Yes, but it also abbreviates ``channel''.
02:38 vex yeah, no
02:43 verisimilitude Yeah, yes.
02:43 vex ok
02:44 vex it obiously does, as you just described.
02:45 vex .jp is such a vast language, I feel like it'd be respectuful to use some other terminology to copy their work again
02:47 vex I wouldn't recommend it tho, you'll need lots of jannies
02:53 thimbronion vex solved afaict
02:54 vex nice work
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03:22 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvn00uk8zI
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11:36 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081240 << U mean housing market, register for wot or floods?
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11:36 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-27 21:16:14 vex: cdd whtchu reckon kid? sink or swim?
11:44 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081241 call it nurunuru chan or somethin. ya could probably score a .ru tld for a memorable domain.
11:44 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-27 21:26:22 vex: i'm trying to thing of an awesome. jp honorific for verisimilitude's yotsuba
11:52 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081262 << To answer anyway; Housing market's fucked, don't touch it. Register for WoT, become flesh. Swim.
11:52 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 06:36:23 crtdaydreams: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081240 << U mean housing market, register for wot or floods?
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15:49 thimbronion $ticker btc usd
15:49 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $40630.6
15:55 billymg NASDAQ collapsing, bitcoin UP!
15:56 shinohai In Shithub lulz: https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12042
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15:56 billymg reference to this old tardstalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.0
15:58 billymg my trbexplorer instance is almost synced now, at 708k (it's been running almost 11 days continuous)
15:59 billymg whaack: dunno if you tested that, but i think it would be fair for you to list the sync time as ~12 days provided one starts with a fully synced trb. i don't think it's fair to trbexplorer to have to include trb's slow sync time
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16:00 billymg shinohai: lol, these fucking people
16:01 shinohai While they are pouring vodka into sewers and banning Russians on soshul media, why not dump all their ETH since Vitalik is Russian?
16:05 thimbronion shinohai: lulz at shithub. Who could have predicted?
16:06 billymg shinohai: excellent idea re: dump putin coin
16:06 shinohai Guess asciilifeform better pack it up too
16:07 asciilifeform shinohai: a++ lulz. ban'em from shithub, from microshit, embargo all shipments of donald duck stickers & lgbtpqrs flags etc
16:07 * shinohai imagines dumbfucks chopping up fuckgoats with an axe ....
16:08 asciilifeform shinohai: pretty sure already featured in 'mp footshoot show' but can't recall precisely, lol
16:08 shinohai kek
16:08 billymg seen in a heathen pit: "amd/intel will stop selling chips to russia, what does this mean? no more nsa backdoors"
16:09 asciilifeform импортозамещение (tm)(r)(c)
16:09 thimbronion Elbrus's time to shine!
16:11 thimbronion They can just build beowulf clusters using russian made z80s
16:12 shinohai bwahahahaha
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17:15 asciilifeform fwiw if ru had its shit together (i.e. had been fully de-eltsinized) there'd be no ukrs, the latter would've been rm -rf'd no later than '14
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17:27 cgra http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081208 << close enough to ponder whether finland's next, or what was going on again
17:27 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-27 19:22:54 verisimilitude: Joking aside, is anyone here even near Russia?
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17:49 BingoBoingo A machine died, been saltmining, may take a while to catch up to log
17:49 asciilifeform wb BingoBoingo !
17:50 BingoBoingo In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay
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17:50 * shinohai salutes BingoBoingo o7
18:03 billymg good to see you again, BingoBoingo
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18:20 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081271 Watch out Russia, this man is out to get you: https://github.com/gakowalski
18:20 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 10:56:06 shinohai: In Shithub lulz: https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12042
18:24 verisimilitude Oh say, I recently learned two more irregular Latin adjectives; MAGNVS is positive, MĀIOR comparative, and MĀXIMVS superlative; the same pattern plays with PARVVS, MINOR, and MINIMVS. I wonder why.
18:25 thimbronion wb BingoBoingo
18:25 verisimilitude I was never taught the full name of Jupiter in school, either, JVPPITER OPTIMVS MĀXIMVS.
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19:05 signpost ok, these propaganda videos with the hot ukr girls are pretty entertaining.
19:05 signpost https://twitter.com/JackPadula2002/status/1498360247328645133
19:07 signpost http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-21#1080233 << apparently, now that ukraine's been broken, can not only join NATO but perhaps EU!
19:07 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-21 17:50:37 asciilifeform: ( see also old man milosevic .)
19:13 asciilifeform wainot straight to 51st us state, lol
19:19 signpost asciilifeform: I was surprised to learn recently that there are, in fact, neo-nazi militias in the ukr army.
19:20 asciilifeform signpost: since '14.
19:20 dulapbot (trilema) 2014-03-12 asciilifeform: 'The guest post from Renée last week appeared on this blog because Huffington Post refused to run it. And now I hear that no comment linking the new Ukrainian government to the neo-Nazis or the neo-Nazis to the mass murder in Kiev can get through on any news site. It seems like there is an actual news blackout on this message.'
19:20 asciilifeform signpost: they have seats in parliament, private armies, etc. and eagerly cosplay
19:20 asciilifeform 100% usg noose blackout re subj tho
19:21 asciilifeform (ukronazis have public www's, w/out any shame, but conveniently none afaik in engl.)
19:22 asciilifeform were instrumental in the '14 usg coup in ukristan.
19:23 signpost makes sense; we're backing al qaeda in yemen now, or have we changed sides again.
19:24 signpost europe too looks like it's being brought to ruin to keep it subordinated to the US.
19:24 * signpost is not suddenly realizing this, but noting a new level of brazenness.
19:25 asciilifeform were ruined already in '45, when converted to satrapies of washington
19:26 signpost no argument to contrary, but seems like someone thinks the grass has gotten too tall over there.
19:26 signpost not like US can supplement their natgas, or agriculture, at sufficient scale.
19:26 asciilifeform '45..'16 was not so bad thing to be washington's sofa. cleaned, polished, not sat on too vigorously. then tighter belts in printoladistan, and sofa -- to furnace
19:27 signpost last boomer gift before death will be total loss of the empire.
19:29 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
19:29 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $41152.89
19:29 asciilifeform sadly empire very much still inbiz; ^ no chg in # of 0s
19:31 verisimilitude Oh no, not the Ukrainian neo-Nazis; they probably don't even believe a man can give birth!
19:32 signpost here comes the *chan guy making edgy pro-nazi comments.
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19:33 asciilifeform verisimilitude: this'd describe ~100% of orc world, not simply the cosplay folx parading in grandfather's ss uniform
19:33 verisimilitude I'm being sarcastic, asciilifeform.
19:34 PeterL sarcasm doesn't carry well over text
19:34 verisimilitude No ``neo-Nazi'' is a member of the German party; it's a misnomer.
19:34 verisimilitude The amusing exhaustion of the term ``nazi'' doesn't help.
19:34 signpost are communists not also such because they aren't all in the same national party?
19:34 verisimilitude I'd thought the exclamation mark would help, PeterL.
19:35 signpost by mass, earth's weaklings are mostly white, verisimilitude.
19:35 shinohai I just gave birth to a 1lb brown bundle of joy, wanna see pics verisimilitude ?
19:35 verisimilitude Communism, like Jewry, knows no such borders, signpost.
19:36 verisimilitude I don't want a toilet picture, no, shinohai.
19:36 shinohai ghehehehe
19:36 asciilifeform verisimilitude: ukristan is a kind of 'jurassic park' where plain old, w/out 'neo', nazis (i.e. direct inheritors of '41-'44 attempt at 'europeanization') still alive & kickin'
19:36 dulapbot (trilema) 2018-05-14 asciilifeform: there's a common set of jokes from su, q: 'if only we let germany win, we'd be drinking bavarian! riding in mercedes!' a: '... yes, ride in mercedes. but -- as the leather seat.'
19:37 verisimilitude Alright; personally, I don't care about Ukraine, but that's interesting to learn.
19:38 signpost verisimilitude: that jewry gave you many of your most important physicists, etc.
19:38 signpost you're a crass idiot from an easy life.
19:38 verisimilitude I'm not criticizing Jews, signpost, just making a comparison, since Marx was Jewish.
19:39 verisimilitude I admire some of the computing pioneers, such as John McCarthy, but I've not read much about his religious beliefs or lack thereof.
19:40 verisimilitude I'm anything but an idiot, signpost, regardless of what anyone thinks of me.
19:43 verisimilitude I seem to have struck a nerve with signpost, however; why not explain ``by mass, earth's weaklings are mostly white'', even though I didn't get upset about that, signpost?
19:43 PeterL I suppose the current conflict will help the nationalists in Ukr, "look at our brave heroes defending our homeland, we are so much cooler than anybody else"
19:43 asciilifeform verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
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19:45 verisimilitude While I appreciate these explanations, asciilifeform, they may be wasted on me.
19:45 asciilifeform at one pt, reich installed mole (gorby) and 'won', and feasted on the delish minerals + sawed-up su industrial base & manpower for all of '90s
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19:45 asciilifeform then 'unwon' and 'omfg111'
19:45 signpost verisimilitude: the 4chan "fascists" will not survive a great depression. you are among them.
19:46 signpost stating this fact does not mean I am upset.
19:46 verisimilitude I don't use 4chan's /pol/, signpost.
19:46 verisimilitude I don't use 8kun either.
19:47 verisimilitude I don't foresee any such survival woes.
19:48 asciilifeform today's cosplay fascisms -- project of same folx as baked prev. set in '30s.
19:48 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-09 13:06:33 asciilifeform: thimbronion: dulles for his part was working for same folx who had commissioned and funded hitler to begin with.
19:48 verisimilitude Why pick on the fascists, and not the insect-like communists swarming around in the cities, who are even worse off?
19:48 asciilifeform verisimilitude: exactly same people, lol, in diff. costumes
19:49 verisimilitude They're certainly just labels to an extent, yes.
19:49 signpost verisimilitude: the reason you will fail is that you think you will be recognized by something powerful someday, which is a slave's idea of power.
19:49 verisimilitude What's wrong about acknowledging most people shouldn't have even the illusion of any political power, signpost?
19:49 signpost "were the fascists in power they'd pat me on the head for my latin studies"
19:49 verisimilitude Now, signpost, I don't want to sling insults, but I don't think this way.
19:50 asciilifeform verisimilitude: the consistent pov would be to also not show up when they're handing out costumes & alt-illusion
19:50 verisimilitude Yes.
19:50 asciilifeform the costume, verisimilitude , dun do anyffin. recall the legendary warning printed on 'superman' costume in u.s. toystores -- 'warning: does not enable flight'
19:51 verisimilitude I wasn't aware, but that's amusing.
19:51 asciilifeform apropos.
19:52 asciilifeform ss costume needs similar tag: 'warning: does not enable blitzkrieg'; 'communist' costume needs similar; etc
19:52 verisimilitude I reject labels for this reason, but I could be considered ``fascist'' or ``authoritarian'' in my beliefs.
19:52 signpost heh, and "no step on snek" flag does not turn one into jefferson
19:52 verisimilitude Even a monarchy doesn't have some of the issues current society has.
19:52 asciilifeform signpost: for instance.
19:53 asciilifeform verisimilitude: iirc yer in favour of honest monarchism, i.e. where openly declared god-emperor, rather than current lizard's rule by illusion. cosplaying serves the latter.
19:53 signpost verisimilitude: listen, your use of "negro" and "jewry", you're the internet tough guy that thinks world *ought to* elevate you.
19:53 signpost go, elevate.
19:54 verisimilitude Honesty is always better, yes.
19:54 verisimilitude I'm elevating myself, signpost.
19:54 * asciilifeform does not begrudge folx their costume hobbies, but reserves right to lol when sees symptoms of folx thinking the superman cape enables flight.
19:54 signpost this exactly.
19:54 verisimilitude I'm not learning Latin so that senpai will notice me, but to learn for its own sake.
19:54 asciilifeform a++
19:55 verisimilitude I'm in this channel because I for now respect some of the people here as my betters, and wish to learn more from them.
19:56 verisimilitude I use the technical terms for referring to groups of people, signpost.
19:56 signpost you use them because they're cheap ways to say "and at least I'm not them"
19:56 asciilifeform verisimilitude: i rec to think re whether the contemplated groups actually exist as pictured, rather than in wardrobe of lizards' costume theatre.
19:56 verisimilitude I can't be glad I'm the way I'm?
19:57 signpost curious how far up the nazi racial hierarchy verisimilitude finds himself.
19:57 asciilifeform for instance, folx who think 'at least we're white, our shithole will never approach zimbabwe' have surprise coming (e.g. ukristan at approx. level of zimbabwe for 20+y nao, by whatever metric you like)
19:58 verisimilitude I think of it less that way, and more by intelligence. Everyone here is probably more intelligent than %95 of the population, signpost.
19:58 signpost look also at what the british did to themselves.
19:59 signpost verisimilitude: yes, and I'm potato irish, southern italian, greek, and a few other things the wehrmacht would've chewed up given time
19:59 verisimilitude I don't see how that's my problem.
19:59 signpost "hold still buddy, we'll cut those off of the british part"
20:00 signpost verisimilitude: those are all people with greatness. there is no problem.
20:01 verisimilitude Good.
20:02 verisimilitude I think signpost is trapped in the issue of ``The Nazis did eugenics, thus eugenics are bad.''.
20:02 verisimilitude Breed dogs and horses and everything under the sun, but man is special for some reason.
20:03 signpost yes, because man always thinks he can construct an authority greater than reality itself to decide who goes into the woodchipper.
20:03 verisimilitude Oh yes, it's so bad when the nazis do it, but what about the communists and every other group on the planet who also do it?
20:03 asciilifeform verisimilitude: the actual problem wasn't even the woodchipper, but w/ being tools of the lizards. (old man adolph discarded as soon as 'went off reservation')
20:05 signpost verisimilitude: rejecting naziism does not imply approval of communism. what is this, american politics now?
20:05 verisimilitude Every group kills others, with few exceptions, signpost.
20:05 verisimilitude This ``woodchipper'' is just nature.
20:05 PeterL what is even the difference between nazi and communist?
20:06 asciilifeform PeterL: the diff is what remains after take off the costumes.
20:06 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 14:43:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: moar interesting is the 'big pic' -- the current war in fact started from 4th crusade, and continues episodically in form of various 'drang nach osten' by impoverished western eureichs, who will not give up dream of 'lebensraum' and delish phree minerals from 'unfairly squatted by orcs' 1/6th of planet3
20:07 signpost verisimilitude: I take this as hopeless men projecting their suicidality on all they encounter.
20:07 signpost "there is nothing to do but decide who will be butchered" and there's a practically infinite universe to expand into.
20:08 verisimilitude Were I suicidal, I'd have killed myself already.
20:08 verisimilitude I chose to learn and create, instead.
20:09 asciilifeform PeterL: in 1900s, as inescapable consequence of industrialization planet3 was carved up into totalitarian reichs. these have gone and will continue to go by various names, issue costumes.
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20:09 signpost for example, men who were not cowards would've immediately sought alliance with the dissolved USSR.
20:10 signpost Putin asked Clinton about joining NATO. this was the correct move.
20:10 signpost even from the perspective of ultimate solipsistic selfishness.
20:11 signpost consider the achievement of the ISS; that was done as *enemies*
20:15 PeterL so is there a difference between reich of Putin and reich of Biden, other than the color of the uniforms?
20:17 verisimilitude Putin is cooler.
20:17 verisimilitude He's also not senile, right?
20:17 PeterL Biden has non-senile pushing the buttons, I assume
20:18 PeterL s/non-senilte people
20:18 PeterL bah, can't type today
20:19 signpost asciilifeform: entirely possible that orwell's wrong about one bit, the stability of the machine.
20:19 signpost looks to be ratcheting into use of the bombs.
20:19 signpost PeterL: I don't think it matters, because much of the counter-attack for any button press is automated.
20:20 signpost when one reads the history of the cold war, it's clear we survived entirely by accident.
20:22 verisimilitude I agree that space is cooler and a better pursuit; where do I sign up, signpost?
20:22 verisimilitude Should I pull myself into space by my bootstraps?
20:23 verisimilitude I do what I can.
20:23 signpost listen arguing with you isn't total condemnation.
20:23 signpost but yeah, most you can do is have kids so your great grandkids might have a shot.
20:24 signpost you and I are most likely going to live through war. the empire will be saying it'll stay provincial until it doesn't.
20:24 signpost well, most likely die through war, lol.
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20:24 verisimilitude Who knows. Maybe the lizards will finally show us the aliens instead.
20:25 PeterL you think more likely somebody invades US or US devolves into civil war?
20:25 signpost a friend of mine and I have an ongoing humorous thread about humans being a client species.
20:26 verisimilitude Explain, signpost.
20:26 verisimilitude I've read WWIII will be started before USCWII.
20:28 PeterL *citation needed
20:29 verisimilitude The reasoning is the USG would survive the former, but not the latter.
20:29 signpost verisimilitude: such as.. all our messianic and "end of days" myths are loosening us up for their arrival.
20:29 verisimilitude IVPPITER OPTIMVS MĀXIMVS
20:31 signpost side note, it'd entertain the hell out of me if whatever objects zipping around turned out to be actual non-human machinery, *and* they haven't even noticed we're here.
20:31 signpost we're just that uninteresting.
20:31 signpost they pop by to refuel on water, and depart a seemingly uninhabited planet.
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20:32 verisimilitude Oh, so this is more Lovecraftian is it?
20:33 signpost former is, latter is how I think it'd actually work.
20:33 signpost humans rounding to chimps by any lasting measure of civilization.
20:35 signpost imagine how easy it would be for an external adversary, should one exist, to cause total destruction on earth given that all of earth's weapons are aimed at one's own head.
20:35 verisimilitude There have been many jokes to that effect, yes.
20:48 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-28#1081436 << 'die not the straw death'(tm)(r)(allfather odin). fwiw asciilifeform likes to mention to locals 'washington real estate expensive cuz errybody wants to live on the bull's eye, not worry about fallout'
20:48 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-28 15:24:11 signpost: well, most likely die through war, lol.
20:50 asciilifeform ( moscow real estate fwiw costs similarly. )
20:50 verisimilitude That's amusing.
20:51 asciilifeform sadly not literally factual -- e.g. highest bull's eye density in usa in fact north dakota, and iirc still pretty cheap.
20:53 PeterL why would you target north dakota?
20:53 asciilifeform PeterL: silos
20:54 asciilifeform PeterL: almost all nukes traditionally aimed at the supposed location of other nukes
20:56 signpost I figure ports too.
20:57 PeterL I've heard that my town is a decent target if somebody wanted to disrupt production of e.g. consumer plastics, I'm not sure how true though
20:57 asciilifeform signpost: ports + errything else strictly 2ndary
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21:23 signpost probably the fragility of supply chains ranks far above nuclear attack, though even if we're talking about nukes only hitting other launchers, I'd expect substantial fallout. taking those out isn't going to involve detonation at altitude.
21:23 signpost re: supply chains and infrastructure, texas may even crumble at the next chilly day, needs no cyber-attacker.
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22:33 verisimilitude It's amazing how multiple countries have nuclear missiles, but LSI semiconductor manufacturing is increasingly concentrated; that shows how much more natural nuclear weapons are than computers.
22:33 verisimilitude Well, VLSI.
22:35 asciilifeform '40s tech moar distributed than '90s -- noose at 11
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23:33 asciilifeform meanwhile... cement testbed at 500+k.
23:34 * asciilifeform does not recall if at that height most blox already 'heavy', may yet walk even slower than previously if notyet
23:39 signpost $ticker btc usd
23:39 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $43275.48
23:39 signpost still truckin.
23:43 asciilifeform well, in circles, lol. but truckin
23:48 verisimilitude Running in circles is a sign of life, at least unless it be an ant death-spiral.
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