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01:39 asciilifeform bonechewer: see prev. riscvism thrd plz.
01:39 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-25 13:11:41 asciilifeform: bonechewer: what's the newsworthy part ? there's already 'over9000' riscv already posted, and some even fit in ice40. (the issue with all of these is that they either fit in ice40, xor have decent performance. typically for the latter relies on various proprietary ram controllers & other periphs not included in src)
01:40 asciilifeform afaik 0 of'em is, or even threatens to be 1) workstation-class iron 2) in any meaningful sense 'open' -- all deeply chinese, and, as is typical, rely on undocumented on-chip crapola
01:41 asciilifeform i.e. you get effectively similar level of 'openism' if you buy an rk. the main diff is that the rk is ~50 $ while similar calibre riscv is ~1000$+
01:43 * asciilifeform vaguely suspects that the riscv thing is, for lack of a better term, a 'stopper' -- i.e. exists to occupy the market niche just enuff to prevent the appearance of the real thing.
01:44 asciilifeform ( as in e.g. these )
01:44 dulapbot Logged on 2021-01-21 16:37:28 asciilifeform: as for encryption -- 99+% of what's 'out there' in the sense of 'readable by plebe armed w/ google' was written specifically to ensure that actual crypto aint there when you in fact do need it.
01:57 bonechewer subj. item is not risc-v, but OpenPOWER, and is open in at least the sense that the Verilog source code is available to bake into your own FPGA
02:00 bonechewer will be fabbed, like early proof-of-concept by TSMC
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02:27 asciilifeform a
02:27 asciilifeform massively gnarly arch, btw, still boggles mind that anyone salivates to it on fpga
02:32 bonechewer Yeah, I learned MIPS first and still think best in it
02:32 asciilifeform oblig. mipsism.
02:34 * asciilifeform fond of mips , w/ exception of the liquishit instrs w/ unaligned byte and 'halfword' access; fuck unaligned loads.
02:36 * bonechewer shudders in sympathetic half-remembered horror
02:37 bonechewer re: risc-v, libre-soc honcho Luke Leighton's rant when abandoning it for OpenPOWER is worthwhile: "the ISA is set up as a cartel"
02:38 asciilifeform meanwhile all patents on mips expired yrs ago
02:38 asciilifeform i.e. whole original premise behind the riscv nonsense evaporated, and w/ 0 comment from the perps
~ 11 hours 56 minutes ~
14:34 signpost asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Ip7h5 << to continue the theme of decadent late-empire.
14:45 cgra http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-01#1077594 << per trb code seems that 'block work' is not per the hash value, but per the block target value. every valid block at the same height always have same weight in this sense. the deciding factor between competing blocks appears to only be the order a particular node received them. and consequently, will only relay the first-received block.
14:45 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-01 14:06:03 asciilifeform: cgra: when 2+ blox 'meet diff', the 1 w/ 'moar' pow wins
14:45 cgra code refs: chain work, block work, and new best check.
14:51 asciilifeform cgra: loox like yer right, and i'ma have to reread properly.
14:53 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077735 << 'looking fwd' to riding on planes w/ 'safe' gc'd shitlang, lol
14:53 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-02 09:35:03 signpost: asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Ip7h5 << to continue the theme of decadent late-empire.
14:55 signpost they'll make sure the planes can be reflashed in flight for extra safety.
15:02 asciilifeform verily. (gotta patch those systemd 0days!111)
15:15 asciilifeform signpost: there was a much-earlier lul with 'safety-certified' cpp liquishit, but at least no gc there, and that labour force did not consist of webmonkeys
15:18 signpost remarkable to consider cpp "clean" in this context, but behold.
15:19 asciilifeform 'we thought we hit bottom, but then heard a knock from below'
15:19 * signpost chortles
15:19 signpost quite glad my old man's retiring from flying these soon.
15:20 signpost "hey dad, how's flying the MAX?" (loud groan)
15:21 asciilifeform meaning of 'safe' unsurprisingly being Officially redefined to include e.g. autos where engine cuts if suddenly can't ping server and similar marvels.
15:21 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 16:19:50 asciilifeform: tesla auto is afaik the textbook 'post-ownership society'(tm)(r) lizard product.
15:23 shinohai *shinohai lul'd watching tesla plaid in a circle-drag race vs trad muscle car .... tesla cuts power when opponent nudges close to yer side, giving them ability to power past you easily.
15:23 signpost iirc a bill was just passed that requires this for all cars manufactured after 2026
15:24 * asciilifeform pictures 2032 noose: ' isp ruled not liable for spontaneous copyright spikes injuries in sofas '
15:24 dulapbot (trilema) 2018-06-13 asciilifeform: there was an earlier version of this lul, where it had a credit card reader and retractable spikes, but i cannot now find it, it was from early age of drmism
15:24 signpost shinohai: bwahaha, automatic submission eh
15:25 shinohai It's an Achilles for sure, could beat you in a reasonably fast turbo car just by swerving into yer lane making your muskmobile freak the fuck out.
15:25 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077753 << unsurprise ( post link if you recall it ? )
15:25 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-02 10:23:29 signpost: iirc a bill was just passed that requires this for all cars manufactured after 2026
15:27 * shinohai 's car is 1988 vintage, but engine is a 93 single turbo conversion ....
15:32 shinohai I never worry about this car being stolen. Manual trans? check. Dials on gauges? check. Not a LCD screen in sight.
15:34 signpost asciilifeform: https://archive.is/a9fSY << sounds like more specifically they mandated that the car not drive "when driver is drunk" and left the specifics to the innovations of industry.
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16:22 asciilifeform lulzy
16:23 asciilifeform btw the #1 lizard use case for the remote-kill thing aint 'chases' (hardly ever happen) but rationing. 'odd-#'d license plates get to drive on tuesdays' etc
16:25 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077754 << >> ftr, subj
16:25 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-02 10:24:23 asciilifeform: pictures 2032 noose: ' isp ruled not liable for spontaneous copyright spikes injuries in sofas '
16:30 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077761 << ancient/unfritzed autos will prolly be stopped/searched/taxed at checkpoints, eventually
16:30 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-02 10:32:54 shinohai: I never worry about this car being stolen. Manual trans? check. Dials on gauges? check. Not a LCD screen in sight.
16:30 dulapbot (trilema) 2013-07-01 asciilifeform: all this talk of IDs at store counters will seem nostalgically quaint when start needing a working RFID beacon just to pass through public doorways.
16:31 * asciilifeform lives where there's a toll road where already if you fughot the rfid box at home / battery died / poor signal etc. you get automagick fine in the mail (if the license plate camera worx, seems to be ~coinflip)
16:35 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-02#1077762 << for folx outside usa -- this is where erry drinking hole has gigantic parking lot, 100% packed erry single night
16:35 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-02 10:34:42 signpost: asciilifeform: https://archive.is/a9fSY << sounds like more specifically they mandated that the car not drive "when driver is drunk" and left the specifics to the innovations of industry.
16:40 asciilifeform phunphakt -- tesla's 'powerwall' ups dies similarly to their auto if cannot ping hq.
16:40 * asciilifeform looked into 'whole house ups' systems, lolled at this one
~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~
17:50 bonechewer Mutual fund giant Fidelity declares in report (PDF): "bitcoin should be considered first and separate from all other digital assets that have come after it". Any shitcoiners jump from windows yet?
~ 15 minutes ~
18:06 asciilifeform bonechewer: in light of what actually motivates shitoinists, prolly nope
18:06 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-17 18:41:38 asciilifeform: aand shitcoins will prolly always remain an attractive nuisance to the dimwitted who reason (correctly!) 'the derps who were there around shitoshi in '09 were no better than me, wai can't i have 1000 btc, maybe can if we can replay history'
18:06 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-14 11:55:48 asciilifeform: i.e. as soon as perp starts to notice that he's no longer the dominant miner, will 'upgrade' the pow, and the chumps will eat it up (given as they ate a shitcoin to begin with, being chumps)
18:06 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-29 15:08:01 asciilifeform: shitcoinism is inevitable , like fungus in a grain silo (and i suspect that if it were possible to invest in the fungus -- some folx would do so) but is exactly in the role of fungus.
18:06 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-28 13:49:55 asciilifeform: shitcoins remain the most reliable scheme for turning over9000 morons' pocket change into some btc, afaik.
18:08 asciilifeform the schemes follow exactly same pattern, seemingly 4evah
18:08 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-10 16:55:27 asciilifeform: the algo hasn't afaik changed for yrs -- bake shitcoin, push via usg.media shills, build illusion of 'exchange rate' w/ wash trading at goxes, then slowly milk btc outta morons
18:08 dulapbot Logged on 2020-12-28 13:18:40 asciilifeform: adlai: i recall a long parade of various crackpot schemes , this & others. all had 1 thing in common -- peddled by, and discussed largely exclusively by, the enrichment-scheme (invariably premine scamola, or even straight boobytrap) shitcoin enthusiast culture.
18:09 asciilifeform afaik nobody involved, w/ the possible exception of penny-ante down's syndrome redditards, 'troo-believes' in $shitcoin 'replacing bitcoin'
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18:26 PeterL http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-01#1077733 << I came across an article today, apparently the company MIPS has switched to RISC-V instead of MIPS now
18:26 dulapbot Logged on 2022-02-01 21:38:24 asciilifeform: meanwhile all patents on mips expired yrs ago
18:28 asciilifeform PeterL: the orig. co had been a hollow shell for many yrs prior
18:29 asciilifeform (i.e. patent corral, begging for somebody, anybody, to pay. until evaporated)
18:31 PeterL How is MIPS different from RISC-V?
18:39 asciilifeform PeterL: for the most part, cosmetically. but lulzily offloads various functionality to unspecified liquishit which pseudo-'open' vendors are free to patent/withhold
18:40 asciilifeform PeterL: originally riscvism was a licensetard 'reaction' to the mips patents
~ 5 hours 5 minutes ~
23:45 asciilifeform !w poll
23:45 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
23:45 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.113s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562 (Operator: asciilifeform)
23:45 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.151s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.153s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562 (Operator: asciilifeform)
23:45 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=721562 (Operator: whaack)
23:45 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.322s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.277s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.380s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721160
23:45 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.652s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:45 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.493s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721562
23:47 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
23:47 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
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