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04:58 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076246 I've no debt, and intend to keep it that way forever.
04:58 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-25 15:23:38 mats: oh right, i forgot, loans are haram
04:59 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076293 I also try to have a better posture when typing, I try and fail to break regularly, and I've been taking vitamins. I prefer when I was younger, and didn't really need vitamins.
04:59 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-25 15:41:22 whaack: mats: i have no idea if what i did helped or if i'm even actually better vs. just having reduce symptoms, but i've been focusing on keeping an upright posture, taking collagen and magnesium supplements everyday with store-bought water, and doing exercise on the slackline
05:00 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076317 My Meta-Machine Code is a structure editor of a sorts. All programming should be done in a human mind first, and in such tools second.
05:00 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-25 15:53:17 asciilifeform: structure editors would be a++ even for folx w/ working hands..
05:01 verisimilitude It also has the nice quality of heavily reducing the typing required for such hacking.
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05:22 mats http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-25#1076359 << no, theres a separate ladder for income tax now, since iirc trump tax cut and jerbs act
05:22 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-25 18:03:57 billymg: and what mats mentioned here i believe is based on your total income for that year. e.g. if you make $50k salary and then sell some asset for a profit you're already in that "kicks in at 40k" range
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05:39 mats nvm, i went to double check, think i misread something a while back
05:46 mats https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409 "The tax rate on most net capital gain is no higher than 15% for most individuals. Some or all net capital gain may be taxed at 0% if your taxable income is less than or equal to $40,400 for single or $80,800 for married filing jointly ... A capital gain rate of 15% applies if your taxable income is more than $40,400 but less than or equal to $445,850 for single"
05:48 mats there is a separate ladder but it didn't work the way i thought it does
05:49 mats cap gains tax treatment is still hella good compared to the fed income ladder, which is 35% up to 520k
05:51 mats and the carveout for primary home ownership sale, which protects (250k usd single/500k married) in profit from tax
05:56 mats or the 1031 exchange, which lets homeowners sell their (nonprimary, investment) home, buy another, and pay no capital gains tax. but i digress
~ 46 minutes ~
06:43 vex that sounds not too bad mats.
06:46 vex compared to oz. we're much closer to 50 pc. can sell your primary house & keep profit upto maxint tho
06:48 vex the quoted is kinda vauge tho huh?
06:58 vex this is correct in my book. jonsykkel et all might use puddi
06:58 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-27 14:49:38 signpost: repudiable could be used for blocks which have no children and have a competitor with no children, and repudiated when they are left behind.
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07:47 cgra signpost or whaack have any idea whether the jetbrains/intellij family also have a decent ada variant? (although now that i checked again, the GPS may be fine after all. forgot why i thought previously otherwise)
07:47 bitbot (pest) 2022-01-27 signpost[asciilifeform|billymg]: the refactoring tools are god-tier.
07:47 bitbot (pest) 2022-01-27 whaack[asciilifeform]: but i have paid for jetbrains products before and would happily do it again
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08:09 cgra re >6 block reorgs there's http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-11-05#1024349][this report]
08:09 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-27 15:00:58 asciilifeform: and iirc whaack turned up >6 long reorgs in early history.
08:09 dulapbot Logged on 2020-11-05 12:45:24 asciilifeform: in other noose, 8-block-long reorg earlier today (on .27 ; and the initial attempt to resolve it, in fact caused that noad to OOM)
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08:45 cgra re the 'orphan' misnomer, drawing the line between 'losing' and 'loser', instead of 'extinct' and 'resurrected', perhaps worth considering.
08:45 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-27 14:57:45 whaack: asciilifeform: given our emperical evidence so far i think it's fair to call loser/repudiated blocks extinct blocks, and should we learn that in practice losers can be revived, then that will be a resurrection
08:45 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-27 14:59:50 asciilifeform: ( the well-known tradition is 'declared dead after 6' but there's no fundamental physical basis for it )
08:45 cgra coupla examples: losing/loser, 'losing' until declared 'loser'. how about the chain that recovers after initial losing position, a 'runner-up'?
08:45 cgra dying/dead, 'dying' until declared 'dead'/'extinct', then a 'recoverer'/'recovering chain'?
08:45 cgra then there's that, say, the node operator had a knob to decide how long a lead declares the losers/the winner. then the operator found out he had underestimated realistic reorg length and wants to adjust: now a previously declared 'loser' and the old 'winner' are swapped. i kinda feel the term 'resurrected' fits this scenario better, but prolly someone better in english can find a fitting 'sports term' here, too
08:47 cgra * 'fits this scenario better' --> 'fits this scenario well'
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14:54 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077110 << asciilifeform was never able to get 'GPS' to build under dulap-gentoo. ( tried it on crapple & mswin, runs, but i dun ada there so can't comment in depth )
14:54 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 02:48:05 cgra: signpost or whaack have any idea whether the jetbrains/intellij family also have a decent ada variant? (although now that i checked again, the GPS may be fine after all. forgot why i thought previously otherwise)
14:55 asciilifeform cgra: afaik there aint any other 'ada ide'. ( asciilifeform uses classical emacs for all adaism )
14:55 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077115 << oh ha yes. possibly others in log
14:55 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 03:09:15 dulapbot: Logged on 2020-11-05 12:45:24 asciilifeform: in other noose, 8-block-long reorg earlier today (on .27 ; and the initial attempt to resolve it, in fact caused that noad to OOM)
14:57 asciilifeform the tricky bit re looking for mega-reorgs in one's trb db is that they'll only be there if the install is ancient (i.e. actually saw the now-'dead' chains)
14:57 asciilifeform if it was synced in modern times, will appear ~entirely linear w/ exception of very occasional 'splinter'
14:58 asciilifeform this was why asciilifeform did not catch but in own 'dumpblocks' for yrs
14:58 asciilifeform *bug
14:58 asciilifeform (the 1 whaack found last yr)
15:01 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077102 << for comparison, in e.g. ru (last asciilifeform knew) flat 12% .
15:01 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 00:50:04 mats: cap gains tax treatment is still hella good compared to the fed income ladder, which is 35% up to 520k
15:02 cgra somekinda eclipse ada thingy supposedly existed, which i so far didn't get around to dig up -- already deprecated, in favor of GPS i think. the thingy might also be a torso as well
15:03 asciilifeform cgra: one time on a mswin box installed some kinda warez commercial ada, the editor was a complete joke (no highlighting, no completion, etc), can't presently recall which one
15:04 asciilifeform there's afaik no equiv. of ms-vs for adaism. (this dun bother asciilifeform tho)
15:04 cgra asciilifeform: hehe, perhaps best forgotten
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15:23 signpost cgra: intellij ultimate has a plugin, which I found to be trash.
15:23 signpost crashed often, seemed left for dead.
15:25 cgra signpost: right
15:30 signpost https://github.com/AdaCore/ada_language_server << curious if this is any good. emacs-lsp is a thing.
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15:53 * asciilifeform still uses conventional 'ada-mode'
15:54 asciilifeform ( w/ 'flymake', 'auto-complete', and 'popup')
15:56 asciilifeform the lsp thing might be useful. ada aint imho an item which desperately needs one, tho (at least not in asciilifeform's style of adaing), typically they're direly needed for 'fat' langs w/ massive libs, when yer sweating over a pile of heathen coad which uses 'all but kitchen sink'
15:58 * asciilifeform has used similar item for 'd', for a commercial ugh
16:07 signpost yeah, imagine the explicitness of the code itself gets one quite far.
~ 2 hours 6 minutes ~
18:13 asciilifeform !w poll
18:13 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
18:13 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.091s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921 (Operator: asciilifeform)
18:13 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=720921 (Operator: whaack)
18:13 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.145s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921 (Operator: asciilifeform)
18:13 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.317s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.319s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.375s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720319
18:13 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.584s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:13 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.385s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=720921
18:15 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
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19:13 * asciilifeform thinking further about this -- would be interesting (if arduous) to bake a 'zoo' of deadchains. if the requisite fossils could be turned up.
19:13 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 09:57:22 asciilifeform: the tricky bit re looking for mega-reorgs in one's trb db is that they'll only be there if the install is ancient (i.e. actually saw the now-'dead' chains)
19:15 asciilifeform ( as things stand, afaik the only way atm to test long reorgs in trb is to bake synthetic alt-histories in the low-diff era )
19:18 asciilifeform this was 'aonix', ftr.
19:18 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 10:03:56 asciilifeform: cgra: one time on a mswin box installed some kinda warez commercial ada, the editor was a complete joke (no highlighting, no completion, etc), can't presently recall which one
19:18 asciilifeform ( still to this day, supposedly, avail. who uses / why, remains a mystery to asciilifeform )
19:19 asciilifeform ^ from the marketing maculature, seems to be merely a skin on adacorpses's '2012' nao
19:29 lc_hodl oh hi
19:29 lc_hodl \o/
19:30 shinohai heya lc_hodl I dm'd you
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19:47 shinohai !!v 938537DD4AD0E4620426E7D0E57E2C6E169648A7D9AAE3B4839BEC5E891ECEE7
19:47 deedbot shinohai rated lc_hodl 5 << mEmEtArD vet and gentoo-ist.
19:59 lc_hodl ^_^
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20:42 whaack http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077110 <-- no idea, not proud to say this, but i have never written even 1 LoC in ada
20:42 bitbot Logged on 2022-01-29 07:47:56 cgra: signpost or whaack have any idea whether the jetbrains/intellij family also have a decent ada variant? (although now that i checked again, the GPS may be fine after all. forgot why i thought previously otherwise)
20:43 whaack http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077116 <-- we should keep an updated bitcoin terminology page for the foundation's ministry of truth department
20:43 bitbot Logged on 2022-01-29 08:45:08 cgra: re the 'orphan' misnomer, drawing the line between 'losing' and 'loser', instead of 'extinct' and 'resurrected', perhaps worth considering.
20:43 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-27 14:57:45 whaack: asciilifeform: given our emperical evidence so far i think it's fair to call loser/repudiated blocks extinct blocks, and should we learn that in practice losers can be revived, then that will be a resurrection
20:43 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-27 14:59:50 asciilifeform: ( the well-known tradition is 'declared dead after 6' but there's no fundamental physical basis for it )
20:46 whaack http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077166 < -- seems like a worthy project
20:46 bitbot Logged on 2022-01-29 19:15:52 asciilifeform: ( as things stand, afaik the only way atm to test long reorgs in trb is to bake synthetic alt-histories in the low-diff era )
20:49 whaack best way to do that would be , imo, to make a patch that sets the genesis block's difficulty as low as possible, then feed blocks with fake timestamps to make it so that there are no difficulty adjustments
20:50 whaack these blocks also would need to have thousands of faux txns etc. to get the most accurate simulation
20:50 whaack no small feat, that's for sure
20:52 asciilifeform whaack: no particular need to patch genesis, if yer baking synthetic blox anyway
20:54 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077177 << come to think of it, asciilifeform may be the only 1 of folx currently tuned in to have ada'd
20:54 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 15:42:46 whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077110 <-- no idea, not proud to say this, but i have never written even 1 LoC in ada
20:55 asciilifeform ( tho e.g. cgra reads it just fine )
20:56 asciilifeform arguably may be easier to read it than to write edibly.
20:56 * asciilifeform found ~all published heathen ada to be ~total rubbish
20:57 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077179 << notbad idea. which reminds asciilifeform , he still owes a new trb www.
20:57 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-29 15:43:59 whaack: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-01-29#1077116 <-- we should keep an updated bitcoin terminology page for the foundation's ministry of truth department
20:57 * asciilifeform 1st gotta recover the ml from his mirror in some edible format
20:58 * asciilifeform must bbl: meat chores
21:05 whaack asciilifeform: the genesis starts with a decently high difficulty, it would take a while to generate the synthetic blocks on a home computer
21:06 whaack !e view-block 0
21:06 trbexplorer http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=1bDj 1 of 1
21:06 whaack block 0's hash = 000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f
21:07 whaack also timestamp is jan 3, 2009, i would put a timestamp way in the past (maybe even 0 epoch)
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