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01:43 * asciilifeform rather unsatisfied w/ the 'fork alarm' mechanism (for various reasons, e.g. the alarm won't go off until the 'original' actually speaks, 'skipping' the impostor's msgs) but to this day unable to think of anyffin substantially better
01:44 asciilifeform if a hero arises who comes up with an algo for forcing handles on a multi-level pestnet to actually stay unique -- let's all take off hats & use it
01:47 asciilifeform given addr cast, all peers oughta be able to connect directly at all times. (hence wai asciilifeform removed 'in-wot hearsay' section; tho fughot to specify that station simply should not route a hearsay purporting to come from an in-wot handle...)
01:48 asciilifeform so forks aint a concern when yer actually peered. still annoying tho that afaik there is no 'final solution' to l2+ collision.
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02:03 * asciilifeform then realizes that that last part is a 'square circle'. prolly oughta goto bed, lol
02:03 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 20:47:44 asciilifeform: given addr cast, all peers oughta be able to connect directly at all times. (hence wai asciilifeform removed 'in-wot hearsay' section; tho fughot to specify that station simply should not route a hearsay purporting to come from an in-wot handle...)
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02:59 jonsykkel wtf is going on here http://zzz.st/up/Y5u4JThB/
03:00 jonsykkel if i run this the first (read) returns as expected but the one inside (with) never returns
03:00 jonsykkel (notice im not using pipe for anything, always reading from stdin)
03:01 jonsykkel typing into stdin from terminal and pressing enter
03:03 jonsykkel output http://zzz.st/up/agnyYzFJ
03:09 jonsykkel or i gues it gets stuck at with-open-file "call"
03:09 whaack jonsykkel: i tried in my sbcl interpretter and it seems to work
03:09 jonsykkel whaack: weird
03:10 jonsykkel "pipe" is a mkfifo in same folder. i gues its something to do with that
03:11 whaack dunno what a mkfifo is, i had to create a blank pipe file in the running dir to get the program to work
03:11 jonsykkel ye indeed works as expected if its a file instead of pipe
03:12 verisimilitude Try using CLEAR-INPUT.
03:13 jonsykkel no diff
03:14 verisimilitude Don't play with pipes.
03:14 jonsykkel i need pipes
03:14 verisimilitude How inconvenient, then.
03:14 jonsykkel indeed
03:14 verisimilitude Try using ECL or CLISP.
03:15 verisimilitude I'm no longer available.
03:16 jonsykkel same thing clisp
03:16 jonsykkel if echo stuff into pipe it unstucks
03:25 jonsykkel ok i gues u need O_NONBLOCK to open() syscall
03:25 jonsykkel u lern something new every day
03:26 jonsykkel now how to do that from lisp
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04:08 gregory5 asciilifeform: to my understanding, motherboard-vendors such as Asus are given power/permission to circumvent Fritz, is that right?
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04:37 whaack blockexplorer graveyard: https://bitcoinchain.com/block_explorer/1 "Warning: SessionHandler::write(): write failed: No space left on device (28)"e
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14:49 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:49 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $35464.37
14:49 asciilifeform ohey moarcheap
14:49 asciilifeform !w poll
14:49 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
14:49 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.109s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:49 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.145s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:49 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=719907 (Operator: whaack)
14:49 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.320s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.368s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=718917
14:49 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.380s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.628s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:49 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.365s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=719907
14:51 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
14:51 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-21#1075636 << nope.
14:51 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 23:08:40 gregory5: asciilifeform: to my understanding, motherboard-vendors such as Asus are given power/permission to circumvent Fritz, is that right?
14:56 asciilifeform gregory5: yer prolly thinking of the purported bypass discovered in '17 for intel ME ;
14:56 dulapbot (trilema) 2017-08-30 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706252 << if you're actually convinced that 1) the published method fully and permanently disables the thing 2) it was the one and only fritzchip core in intelturd --- i got bridge to sellya.
14:57 asciilifeform gregory5: which 1) aint a bypass in the sense where can boot self-compiled bios 2) dollars to doughnuts , ME aint the only boobytrap in there anyways
14:57 dulapbot (trilema) 2017-05-02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally: i fully expect the ~next~ generation of intel fritz to use nic-independent trigger (e.g., magic string in memory)
14:58 asciilifeform gregory5: otoh for amd's 'PSP' boobytrap, no defusing, partial or otherwise, known atm.
14:58 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-10-04 asciilifeform: 'AMD’s PSP is based around a single 32-bit ARM Cortex-A5, with its own isolated ROM and SRAM but has access to system memory and resources. It contains logic to deal with the x86 POST process but also features a cryptographic co-processor.' << they stuffed, finally, their 'fritz chip', into the g-series.
15:01 asciilifeform for reference, 'kgpe-d16' is the last amd mb w/out 'psp', i.e. where can boot blobless bios.
15:02 * asciilifeform posting from a box w/ one of'em
15:10 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-21#1075637 << tsk.
15:10 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-21 23:37:25 whaack: blockexplorer graveyard: https://bitcoinchain.com/block_explorer/1 "Warning: SessionHandler::write(): write failed: No space left on device (28)"e
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17:34 scoopbot New post on billymg: New Logotoron Patches: Bug Fixes and Enhancements
17:40 whaack ^ nice
17:42 whaack does anyone have a particular favorite heathen block explorer / particular feature that they like that i may not think to include?
17:43 whaack this is the list i obtained a while back of block explorers i could find from a little bit of searching
17:44 whaack from those i have to give tokenview the W for best presentation, particularly for the clean tables i see when they list out transactions example
17:45 billymg whaack: my go-to has been blockstream.info lately, it used to be blockchain.info
17:46 whaack billymg: oh man that explains a lot, i always used to use blockchain.info and i was wondering how blockchain.com went to such shit
17:46 billymg i wouldn't say i necessarily like blockstream.info i just switched when blockchain.info moved to blockchain.com/explorer to put it alongside their shitcoin wallet
17:47 billymg heh, yeah, exactly
17:47 whaack right, i thought blockchain.info was the product of blockstream
17:47 whaack er, still was
17:47 whaack and i was like boy did that vc money contaminate their project to the extreme
17:47 thimbronion whaack: I check out tx fee charts occasionally
17:48 whaack thimbronion: right, i consider that a core real-use application, i am thinking of displaying that info prominently and also maybe showing example tx fees, say a recommendation for a 1 input 2 output txn
17:49 * whaack wonders what liquid is
17:49 whaack thanks billymg this is a top one, i am a fan of the color scheme as well
17:50 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075674 << ah, i think this got misinterpreted. i meant "it used to be blockchain.info" as in, my go-to used to be blockchain.info, not that blockstream.info used to be blockchain.info
17:50 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-22 12:45:59 billymg: whaack: my go-to has been blockstream.info lately, it used to be blockchain.info
17:51 whaack ah okay
17:51 billymg whaack: yeah, they keep it simple
17:52 whaack is 'virtual size' the size of the block as per trb?
17:54 whaack (seems to be so, goddamn doublspeak, 'virtual' means 'actual')
17:54 billymg lol yeah, good catch
17:54 * billymg usually only looks at tx and addr pages, not for whole blocks
17:55 whaack right, all block explorers prominently display all blocks, looks nice and 'hey we have a lot of info here!' but i don't plan to make that a main display on my page
17:55 whaack all recent* blocks
17:56 billymg re: liquid, it's another layer-2 scheme for fast transactions, like lightning. they wrote up a decent overview of both actually
17:57 whaack thx
17:59 whaack and above when i said 'display all blocks' i meant to say 'displaying a preview of the most recent N blocks', but this is information clutter on the screen, no one has ever gone to the homepage of a block explorer wondering how many transactions were in the 6th most recent block
18:02 billymg what do you think you'd show at the root level view?
18:03 billymg or just nothing and only a search box?
18:06 whaack billymg: Atm I think just a search box and fee recommendations
18:07 * shinohai switched to https://mempool.space/ as heathen explorer, blokechain.com got too retarded.
18:07 shinohai Buenas dias all o/
18:08 whaack shinohai: that doesn't even load on my old firefox browser
18:08 whaack blockchain.com definitely went full retard, their homepage banner now even has 'nft coming soon'
18:09 billymg whaack: a quick fee recommendation right on the homepage seems super useful imo
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19:21 thimbronion hey whaack what was the issue with the formatting of blatta notice messages you were talking about?
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20:10 whaack thimbronion: the error i get is 'Message without sender' , I don't get the error when i connect ot the server
20:11 thimbronion whaack: I see
20:11 whaack thimbronion: so the msg "Hi, welcome to pest" correctly sets the sender as my localhost, but the other Notice messages does not
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21:52 bonechewer Re: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075663 , next AMD boobytrap seems to be Microsoft product
21:52 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-22 09:58:30 asciilifeform: gregory5: otoh for amd's 'PSP' boobytrap, no defusing, partial or otherwise, known atm.
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22:09 asciilifeform bonechewer: aand that's just the ~advertised~ ones
22:09 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075669 << very nifty, ty billymg !
22:09 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-22 12:34:36 scoopbot: New post on billymg: New Logotoron Patches: Bug Fixes and Enhancements
22:10 * asciilifeform will bring own logotron up to date when gets a chance
22:10 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-22#1075671 << asciilifeform occasionally uses 'blockchair' but it's afaik entirely unremarkable, largely interchangeable w/ the others
22:10 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-22 12:43:04 whaack: does anyone have a particular favorite heathen block explorer / particular feature that they like that i may not think to include?
22:10 * asciilifeform will move to whaack's thing when it's baked
22:12 * asciilifeform spent most of day picking up his very 1st selfstanding 42u rack, 300kg monster from '70s, in 'pdp-8 blue'
22:21 whaack the main problem i have now is that looking up the typical information a heathen block explorer displays for an address takes 1-5 seconds locally
22:22 asciilifeform whaack: didja profile it? (what eats the cycles?)
22:22 whaack not yet but i have a good idea
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22:46 whaack i think i'm going to change up the standard way blockexplorers have been presenting the data related to an address to something that highlights the ticket idea. this is partly motivated due to the way my db is laid out, but i have a hunch that the ticket concept may prove a lot more intuitive and easy to understand when looking at one's address in a block explorer
22:46 * asciilifeform thinks is nifty idea, loox fwd to seeing what whaack comes up with
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23:07 mats damn, 300kg? alf is yolked
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23:56 asciilifeform mats: asciilifeform aint a circus performer : the thing, fortunately, came apart
23:56 asciilifeform was still a bitch tho
23:56 * asciilifeform has owned smaller racks which weighed less than merely 1 of the side panels of this thing
23:57 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform : 'soo where didja get this?' scrap man: 'defunkt law office' asciilifeform: ... )
23:58 asciilifeform wonder wtf lived in there ( asciilifeform's guess -- ancient pbx )
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