00:22 |
asciilifeform |
aaaapparently all the random thrds today in #pest ! |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
historic!1 |
00:28 |
thimbronion |
lulz |
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~ 1 hours 18 minutes ~ |
01:46 |
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asciilifeform will add #pest logging eventually on dulap |
01:46 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-04 21:37:41 asciilifeform: intends to stand up a pestlogger on dulap as soon as we have a pestron w/ 'getdata'. until then the log is gonna end up fulla holes and frustrating. |
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~ 11 hours 13 minutes ~ |
12:59 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
12:59 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $41791.21 |
12:59 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
12:59 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
12:59 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
12:59 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=717868 |
12:59 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.132s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
12:59 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=717868 |
12:59 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.135s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 |
12:59 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 |
12:59 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=717868 (Operator: whaack) |
13:00 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 |
13:00 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.314s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 |
13:00 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.323s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717102 |
13:00 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.656s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 |
13:00 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.417s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 |
13:00 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
13:01 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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~ 2 hours 27 minutes ~ |
15:28 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 94.176.238.102 |
15:29 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 94.176.238.102 8333 |
15:29 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 143.202.160.10 8333 |
15:29 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
15:30 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
15:30 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile in heathen lulz, 'code that fits in your head' 'Addison-Wesley Professional; 1st edition (November 15, 2021)' (some c# rubbish, seems) |
15:34 |
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asciilifeform not read, if anyone has, plox to write in. |
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15:35 |
asciilifeform |
( vendor link ) |
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~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~ |
16:43 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: the cover looks like a book my mentor had me read during my internship at goolag, that book was called 'Clean Code' or something |
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~ 49 minutes ~ |
17:33 |
whaack |
test |
17:33 |
whaack |
!e view-height |
17:33 |
trbexplorer |
block_height: 717895 |
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~ 1 hours 22 minutes ~ |
18:55 |
mod6 |
Over in #pest, just ran `/quote unpeer whaak` and was about to enter his updated key and AT info. but now, blatta won't even restart. Just keep getting this message over and over on start up: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pgIv |
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18:56 |
mod6 |
Here's a peek at the IRC (irssi) client side: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=DmUT |
18:56 |
mod6 |
Do I need to nuke the .db and start cleanly? |
18:57 |
whaack |
mod6: i would backup the db and start again with a new db, you can also look at test_net_configs and start_test_net.sh to see how to manually write in the at tables + keys in a config file |
18:58 |
mod6 |
Sounds good whaak. Will do just that. Cheers! |
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~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~ |
20:13 |
billymg |
mod6: just saw this, unpeering before unkeying currently triggers this bug |
20:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-07 19:38:27 billymg: thimbronion: found a bug in blatta. if you /unpeer with someone you have keyed it will crash inside get_keyed_peers() in lib/state.py because it iterates though the peer_ids in the keys table, but one will be missing from the list of peers |
20:13 |
billymg |
you don't have to nuke the whole db, just go into sqlite and delete the key for the user you just unpeered |
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20:17 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071632 << could be, does look like it's part of a series |
20:17 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 11:35:41 whaack: asciilifeform: the cover looks like a book my mentor had me read during my internship at goolag, that book was called 'Clean Code' or something |
20:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071636 << you may've been the 1st to actually test that knob |
20:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 13:47:17 mod6: Over in #pest, just ran `/quote unpeer whaak` and was about to enter his updated key and AT info. but now, blatta won't even restart. Just keep getting this message over and over on start up: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pgIv |
20:23 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: 2nd, see http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-07#1071562 |
20:23 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-07 19:38:27 billymg: thimbronion: found a bug in blatta. if you /unpeer with someone you have keyed it will crash inside get_keyed_peers() in lib/state.py because it iterates though the peer_ids in the keys table, but one will be missing from the list of peers |
20:23 |
asciilifeform |
a |
20:27 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: another message that may gotten lost, i found a simple fix for your spam trap positioning |
20:27 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-07 15:27:46 billymg: asciilifeform: in my theme was one line that had to be moved to put the arithmetic test above the submit button, dunno how different our themes are though |
20:27 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-07 12:16:25 asciilifeform: btw whaack billymg or other wp aficionados -- if you know how to make the puzzler appear ~above~ the 'submit' button, plox to write in |
20:27 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: neato, will need to put in my queue of things to try |
20:27 |
billymg |
have* gotten |
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~ 1 hours 26 minutes ~ |
21:54 |
mod6 |
< billymg> mod6: just saw this, unpeering before unkeying currently triggers this bug << ahh, ok good to know for the future. some of this may also be, at least partially, related to the fact that I had whaack's nick in there misspelled. |
21:54 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-07 19:38:27 billymg: thimbronion: found a bug in blatta. if you /unpeer with someone you have keyed it will crash inside get_keyed_peers() in lib/state.py because it iterates though the peer_ids in the keys table, but one will be missing from the list of peers |
21:54 |
mod6 |
But, going forward, will remember. |
21:55 |
mod6 |
< asciilifeform> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071636 << you may've been the 1st to actually test that knob << sure, ditto the same with whaack's nick. |
21:55 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 13:47:17 mod6: Over in #pest, just ran `/quote unpeer whaak` and was about to enter his updated key and AT info. but now, blatta won't even restart. Just keep getting this message over and over on start up: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pgIv |
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23:02 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-07#1071542 << good observations. |
23:02 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-07 18:04:47 signpost: perhaps one could claim that the religious rendering protects against any particular mortal claiming they are the embodiment of the ideal, but in practice that doesn't appear to have stopped anyone. |
23:03 |
gregory5 |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071630 << I read the whole book. it was surprisingly good for "enterprise" genre. |
23:03 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 10:26:38 asciilifeform: not read, if anyone has, plox to write in. |
23:05 |
gregory5 |
I attribute this in a large part (sorry) to the author being Danish, not American. |
23:08 |
gregory5 |
the book is aimed at intermediate enterprise-programmers. `asciilifeform` might not learn anything. |
23:10 |
gregory5 |
the author was a former APL and Haskell programmer. before that, he was trained as an economist. |
23:10 |
gregory5 |
"The most important notion of encapsulation is that an object should guarantee that it never reaches an invalid state." |
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23:10 |
gregory5 |
"The maintenance of a valid state is no longer the caller's responsibility... The better the guarantees which are given," |
23:11 |
gregory5 |
"the less defensive the code which the caller needs to write." this was an excellent quote from the book, slightly paraphrased. |
23:13 |
gregory5 |
the author, like Naggum, also blames the rise of PCs in the 1990s for ruining software as a discipline. |
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23:14 |
verisimilitude |
I find this amusing. |
23:15 |
verisimilitude |
No, that's the wrong article. |
23:15 |
verisimilitude |
I find this amusing. |
23:16 |
verisimilitude |
In brief, some JavaScript pro hipster dipshit is upset his code primarily useful to corporations is being used by them without any payment. |
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23:16 |
verisimilitude |
This is a common thread with them. |
23:16 |
verisimilitude |
``All of the layers below me don't matter. My JavaScript linter configuration file is what needs to be funded, damnit!'' |
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23:17 |
verisimilitude |
In the idiocy regarding this, auditing the code is never even mentioned as an option. |
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23:22 |
verisimilitude |
It's a shame these people don't do anything important enough for their negligence to kill them. |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071668 << this reads rather like, say, 'the most important aspect of designing a rifle is to guarantee that the bolt never flies backwards into the wielder's eye socket' |
23:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 18:02:41 gregory5: "The most important notion of encapsulation is that an object should guarantee that it never reaches an invalid state." |
23:43 |
asciilifeform |
... i.e. while not ~false~, is not particularly 'pithy' observation imho |
23:45 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071678 << of course not. ( for folx who did not read the linked lul: story ended with microshit.shithub ~confiscating~ the repo and freezing in old version, the one w/out the infinite loop) |
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23:45 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 18:09:17 verisimilitude: In the idiocy regarding this, auditing the code is never even mentioned as an option. |
23:46 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. in fact microshit confirmed the imho obvious state of affairs re ownership of shithub-hosted liquishit |
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23:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071677 << reminiscent of that time mp frothed over nyt plagiarizing some ln from 1 of his articles |
23:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-01-09 18:08:46 verisimilitude: ``All of the layers below me don't matter. My JavaScript linter configuration file is what needs to be funded, damnit!'' |
23:51 |
asciilifeform |
for reference, asciilifeform's official position on subj. |
23:51 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-02-21 17:18:46 asciilifeform: the reality-based view is : 'intellectual property is what you keep to yourself.' |
23:52 |
asciilifeform |
( concretely, in detail. ) |
23:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-02-21 17:41:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 'the law' in fact worx exclusively against you an' i , and in favour of microshit et al (and the occasional popescu, patent troll, etc.) |
23:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-02-21 17:41:57 asciilifeform: the sooner you grasp this, the sooner can avoid blowing mental cpu cycles on dead end train of though 'how can i humiliate microshit using magick strings in my src files' |
23:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-02-21 17:42:13 asciilifeform: there aint a suitable magick string. cuz it in fact is not how reich law worx. |