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00:07 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
00:07 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $57322.8
00:07 asciilifeform !w poll
00:07 watchglass Polling 17 nodes...
00:07 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov)
00:07 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
00:07 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
00:07 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
00:07 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect!
00:07 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733 (Operator: asciilifeform)
00:07 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.101s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733 (Operator: asciilifeform)
00:07 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.148s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.150s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711733 (Operator: whaack)
00:07 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.225s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.322s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.244s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:07 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.548s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:08 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
00:14 * asciilifeform will remove, on acct. of their apparent deaths, the following noades from wg roster: 213.109.238.156 185.163.46.29 84.16.46.130 185.85.38.54 176.9.59.199 and 192.151.158.26. if operators are tuned in and object, plox to write in.
00:14 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-10 11:50:22 BingoBoingo: 192.151.158.26:8333 can leave watchglass's poll
00:18 asciilifeform ... and adding to roster certain trb noades visible in billymg's nifty crawler which not yet been added.
00:18 asciilifeform !w poll
00:18 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
00:18 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711733
00:18 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733 (Operator: asciilifeform)
00:18 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711733
00:18 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.111s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:18 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.125s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733 (Operator: asciilifeform)
00:18 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:19 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.087s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711733 (Operator: whaack)
00:19 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:19 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.262s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:19 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.305s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:19 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.361s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711393
00:19 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.657s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711733
00:19 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.869s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711730
00:19 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
00:20 asciilifeform aaand as always if anyone has a noad he would like to see in wg, plox to write in.
00:21 asciilifeform ... ditto if yer noad is currently tagged 'unknown' but you'd like to officially name it.
00:22 vex https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/11/26/multiple-mining-pools-are-facing-connectivity-issues/ did you hear this asciilifeform?
00:22 asciilifeform nope
00:23 asciilifeform 'The issue is caused by domain name system (DNS) “pollution,” Binance Pool and Poolin said on their Chinese Telegram channels. F2pool also said the pool’s domain name is not being properly resolved' << lol dnstards
00:23 vex 14% off
00:23 asciilifeform fuck'em with red hot irons.
00:25 asciilifeform 'mining pools' were possib. single worst calamity ever to befall bitcoinism.
00:27 asciilifeform sooner they croak, the better, and best of all would be for erry last thief of mains current to sizzle in electric chair; but the latter is too much to hoap for imho
00:27 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-19 01:22:49 asciilifeform: (unless w/ stolen current ~and~ asics somehow..)
00:28 asciilifeform ( elementarily, mining will be carried out with stolen mains current whenever and wherever possible, and folx who actually gotta ~pay~ for their joules ~cannot compete )
00:31 asciilifeform iirc in cn, the theft was typically 'in broad daylight', what with massive centralized plants built in middle of nowhere; with the connivance of kpcn apparatchiks. some of whom now perhaps cooling their heels in gulag.
00:32 vex friedcat had half the hash, went missing. some of the forkcoin moved years later
00:36 asciilifeform vex: which phork was this?
00:36 vex lemme look
00:40 asciilifeform upstack, and at the risk of repeating self -- if whatever yer doing can be sunk by dns shenanigans, yer a tard, and deserve whatever pain reich (inexpensively!) may inflict on you via that entirely voluntary and avoidable string you attached to yourself.
00:40 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-27 01:28:12 atuttle: also, pest doesn't bootstrap itself from DNS. that is a huge, huge advantage that is very hard to find in protocols these days.
00:41 vex yeah, archaeology dept. is having mondaay off, mebbe gold?
00:42 asciilifeform that 'gold' ?
00:42 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-15 13:46:39 asciilifeform: ( the third, 'btg', appears to be dead in practice , was unable to find any means of txing on it )
00:43 vex bcg, wasn't that one?
00:43 vex ah btg. yeah I forget
00:43 vex which was the first fork?
00:44 asciilifeform signpost: somewhat apropos, thought of your lubytron in context of possible pheature: pestron takes a local dir and 'hosts'. peers (and optionally broader pestnet members, e.g. l2/l3) can visit e.g. http://localhost:8000/signpost and see his 'www'.
00:44 asciilifeform vex: bch iirc
00:45 vex In any case, I feel like hitting a block erry 15 minutes might've been more fun in 2009
00:45 asciilifeform vex: elaborate?
00:47 vex Well friedcat was out there in the middle of bumfuck nowhere hitting every other block, when it was more valuable
00:47 asciilifeform vex: the miner scum think in usd, and by that token they're 'moar valuable' nao
00:51 vex precisely, in 2009, there was no usd rate
00:52 vex they joy of hitting a block was it's own reward
00:52 asciilifeform vex: in '09 miners were (microshit-besotted) folx using spare cpu cycles
00:53 * asciilifeform strongly suspects that much of the 'flavour' of early bitcoinism was influenced by this
00:53 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-17 18:38:23 asciilifeform: shitoshi's war crime of yielding bitcoin to winblows morons in '09 will be paid for, for potentially very long time.
00:57 vex perhaps you're satoshi; me think alf doeth prostest too mcuhe
00:58 asciilifeform aha, and jack ripper, lol
00:58 vex fits
00:58 asciilifeform 'i was there, i did it'(tm)(r)(gore)
~ 15 minutes ~
01:13 scoopbot New post on Thimbron: Blatta 9987: hearsay embargo
01:13 asciilifeform oh hey
01:14 thimbronion megapatch ^
01:15 * asciilifeform goes to try
01:17 asciilifeform ugh thimbronion : /usr/bin/python2: can't find '__main__' module in 'blatta'
01:17 asciilifeform ah nm
01:17 * asciilifeform typo
01:18 asciilifeform sent helloworld, 0 output in billymg's pestlog, i'ma assume he'll need this ver to see any
01:18 thimbronion asciilifeform: I saw it
01:18 thimbronion Yeah his pest won't work with this version.
01:19 asciilifeform makes sense
01:20 thimbronion shinohai: sorry didn't get a host option in for your bot yet.
01:23 asciilifeform troo test will be when 3+ folx in there
01:24 thimbronion yep. hopefully we can figure out why some people can't dm each other. Messages dropped due to bounce count are logged now as well.
~ 23 minutes ~
01:47 * vex is reminded of schoolboy days treolling trucxkers on 27megz
01:49 vex had to meet up at school to coord the othernet
02:04 vex sad fuck thinks he's onto a good thing until he realises he needs to make a 20 point turn to escape
02:08 vex 10yo boys can't carry much loot anyway, never had any complaints
02:09 vex net went around. "that's those kids"
02:13 vex nothing to do with pest test at all, besides dulap there for testing
02:24 vex why u on da roof vex? just antenna mum
02:29 vex works best at night
02:30 vex carry on
02:39 vex meanwhile asciilifeform is skipdiving for an ecyclopedia
02:40 vex mp is electrocuting a chicken
02:44 vex signpost is likely running a similar scam, albeit slightly moar legal
02:45 vex BingoBoingo hadn't the worries on his shoulders yet
02:45 vex Juvov prolly walking by some mountain stream, scheming
02:46 vex Never expecting someone to mispell his handle far in the future
02:51 vex I could go on, but I'll only embarrass myself.
~ 32 minutes ~
03:23 vex meanwhile, in bali, I'll respectfully remind hotel guest not to update adobe on your winblows lappy if the 750 bc on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqIehWnEcU whaack ben10
03:37 vex meanwhile shinohai at a ruski hotel. test da net
03:39 vex this is novel. I know this
03:41 vex sir you need to check out.
03:41 vex look it up, I've already left
03:44 vex wait, what?
03:45 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhuOIbg-hM0
04:00 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk
04:01 vex https://deadline.com/2021/11/virgil-abloh-dead-fashion-designer-founder-louis-vuittons-off-white-label-was-41-obituary-1234881123/ I wonder is Pete Deushenski still reads
04:01 asciilifeform thimbronion et al : asciilifeform while rereading pest spec found a logical bug : in 4.2.3.3, station is asked to count distinct peers who sent duplicates of a hearsay msg ; but to simply count'em is flawed, as likely ~all~ the station's peers will send'em due to bounceback.
04:02 asciilifeform proposed alt algo is to take the bounce count of the copy with the lowest bounce count and only count such dupes whose bounce count is equal to it.
04:03 asciilifeform ( anuther obv. pill would be to abolish bounceback, i.e. relay of a msg to sender; presently these do no good whatsoever, tho earlier was thinking they make for good liveness confirm )
04:05 asciilifeform vex: i srsly doubt he's tuned in, went to his www not long ago and it was kilometres of shitcoinism as far as eye could see
04:05 vex I doubt it too. I still read him
04:05 asciilifeform ( subj, for the entomologically inclined )
04:05 thimbronion asciilifeform: actually blatta currently doesn't bounce back.
04:06 asciilifeform oh hm
04:06 * asciilifeform oughta nail down in spec
04:07 asciilifeform somehow omitted this
04:07 asciilifeform thimbronion: the problem described above still exists, because msg can travel in a loop
04:07 asciilifeform (until someone drops it on acct of bounce > cut)
04:08 asciilifeform and while on this subj, 3 is possib. too small of a default cut.
04:10 asciilifeform the 'who gave copies' thing is there to deal with the case where e.g. thimbronion peers asciilifeform and bitbot , signpost peers asciilifeform and bitbot , asciilifeform not peered bitbot but gets a hearsay from same via thimbronion and signpost
04:10 asciilifeform imho useful to distinguish such case visually from plain hearsay
04:11 asciilifeform ( incidentally on asciilifeform's 1stpass reading of thimbronion's 9987 patch, currently the indicator only triggers if in-wot hearsay ? )
04:12 asciilifeform per spec oughta trigger on all hearsays if multiple peers relayed
04:14 thimbronion asciilifeform: yes simiple hearsay is not embargoed currently
04:14 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-28#1068105 << thinking about it moar, would make just as much sense to count only such copies where bounce==1.
04:14 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-28 22:55:20 asciilifeform: proposed alt algo is to take the bounce count of the copy with the lowest bounce count and only count such dupes whose bounce count is equal to it.
04:14 asciilifeform thimbronion: a ok
04:23 thimbronion http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-28#1068117 << as it stands blatta will just pass on the first message received as hearsay and drop any additional copies as dupes since there's no hope of receiving an immediate copy.
04:23 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-28 23:03:12 asciilifeform: the 'who gave copies' thing is there to deal with the case where e.g. thimbronion peers asciilifeform and bitbot , signpost peers asciilifeform and bitbot , asciilifeform not peered bitbot but gets a hearsay from same via thimbronion and signpost
~ 15 minutes ~
04:39 asciilifeform right
04:41 asciilifeform ( per spec tho oughta indicate via which peer(s) came the hearsay; 1 of the uses of the embargo buffer is to give an extended 'now' moment (given as in reality msgs cannot actually arrive simultaneously, on x86 not even if via multiple nics, given there's 1 bus..) to make this possible.
04:41 asciilifeform )
04:42 thimbronion asciilifeform: currently indicates which peer (the first). I can change it to embargo simple hearsay messages as well.
~ 15 minutes ~
04:58 asciilifeform thimbronion: with your current logic, a msg which is coming via multiple peers will display one effectively at random.
04:58 asciilifeform so yea, per spec oughta embargo all hearsays
04:59 asciilifeform thimbronion: does asciilifeform's reasoning make sense to you ?
04:59 asciilifeform (imho oughta display the avail. info, given as it exists, rather than a random)
05:00 * asciilifeform recommends to readers to lay out the paths on paper/chalkboard to properly apprehend this and other 'complicated' cases
05:03 vex just don't have your shit entirely on whiskey soaked notepads
05:03 asciilifeform lol
05:04 asciilifeform vex: whiskey notepads actually a-ok for this, is for fitting in own head
05:14 vex lebih baik ada daripada tiada
05:27 thimbronion asciilifeform: makes sense. When implementing, I didn't reread 4.2.3.3 and in the preceding paragraphs the buffer was only mentioned in 4.2.3.2.2, if that makes sense.
05:39 thimbronion As for laying it out, I humbly request code reviewers to check out the unit tests corresponding to this portion of the code.
~ 2 hours 33 minutes ~
08:12 crtdaydreams asciilifeform: would it be too cursed to implement pest in python?
08:12 crtdaydreams wait
08:13 crtdaydreams err404 brain not found
08:14 crtdaydreams merry christmas mats
08:16 crtdaydreams before you know every hellhole "store" will be blasting whatizname michael bubble and jacking up the prices in prep for "sales"
08:17 crtdaydreams pest brainfuck impl wen?
08:32 punkman every store here doing "black friday", some upping the ante with "black week" or even "black month". And there are exactly 0 deals worth buying. Because we don't have the excess stock that americans have.
08:38 crtdaydreams it's an absurdist regime. impressionable people see the "50% off" when it's the same price it was 2 weeks ago.
~ 1 hours 11 minutes ~
09:50 crtdaydreams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRpCda2Sdxw
~ 5 hours 30 minutes ~
15:20 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
15:20 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $57033.27
15:20 asciilifeform !w poll
15:20 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
15:20 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.022s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:20 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.152s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:20 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711820 (Operator: whaack)
15:20 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.225s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.266s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.317s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.306s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711612
15:20 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.328s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711758
15:20 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.609s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:20 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.495s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711820
15:22 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068142 << i rec to read the log. ( thimbronion already has a ~90% to-spec prototype in python, asciilifeform et al are sitting on a testnet with it , etc )
15:22 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-29 03:05:09 crtdaydreams: asciilifeform: would it be too cursed to implement pest in python?
15:22 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068149 << they do this erry yr, is traditional, and worx (chumps load up)
15:22 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-29 03:31:25 crtdaydreams: it's an absurdist regime. impressionable people see the "50% off" when it's the same price it was 2 weeks ago.
15:24 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068140 << right, revised as of 0xfd spec.
15:24 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-29 00:20:41 thimbronion: asciilifeform: makes sense. When implementing, I didn't reread 4.2.3.3 and in the preceding paragraphs the buffer was only mentioned in 4.2.3.2.2, if that makes sense.
15:24 asciilifeform wb PeterL
15:24 PeterL oh hey
15:26 asciilifeform PeterL: thimbronion has new patch
15:26 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-28 20:06:31 scoopbot: New post on Thimbron: Blatta 9987: hearsay embargo
15:27 PeterL yeah, saw new patch. just tried to run it but crashed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=6Fi9
15:28 asciilifeform hm interesting. worx here
15:29 PeterL does it need the channel specified when starting blatta, I thought it defaulted to #pest?
15:31 asciilifeform not afaik. mine runs w/ same cmdline as prev.
15:31 * asciilifeform must bbl
15:33 thimbronion PeterL: dang. should be "logging" not "logger" there
15:35 PeterL aha. will change and try again
15:35 shinohai Buenas dias peeps.
15:35 shinohai logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-28#1068076 <<< no worries, will read new post and try patch here shortly.
15:37 thimbronion PeterL: no that option is not required. Here's the command I use to start: blatta-latest --irc-port 6667 --udp-port 55000 --debug
15:45 thimbronion PeterL: saw your message in #pest
15:51 PeterL thimbronion: http://thimbron.com/2021/11/blatta-9987-hearsay-embargo/#comment-470
15:52 thimbronion ty PeterL. I will investigate.
16:04 thimbronion jonsykkel: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=AbN3
16:06 jonsykkel thimbronion: message seems empty?
16:08 thimbronion jonsykkel: loads for me. I have seen empty pastes before from others that I think subsequently loaded, but here's another: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=L0t6
16:08 jonsykkel loads yeah, but no output from gpg
16:10 thimbronion jonsykkel: ah sorry here try this: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=VguE
16:11 jonsykkel alrite this one works
16:12 jonsykkel ty, will test december 1st, stuck with 40kbps internet until then
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16:56 thimbronion @jack is out: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720]
16:57 thimbronion Parag in
17:00 signpost looks like an ethboi from his feed
17:04 thimbronion looks like an ethboi period: https://twitter.com/TastefulTyrant/status/1465350841657872388
17:09 signpost reddit-tier physiognomy << bwahahaha
17:10 signpost anyway bitcoin-twitter is also a moonboy toilet.
17:10 signpost when the market's rallying they all agree it's going to go up, and when not, that it'll go up soon. pretty useless.
~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~
18:14 asciilifeform signpost: what, in this context, is a 'moonboy' ?
18:14 asciilifeform ( ... pumper ? )
18:21 PeterL "to the moooon!"
18:25 asciilifeform lol
18:33 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068199 << can someone familiar with subj expand ? asciilifeform has nfi what diff it makes
18:33 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-29 11:49:12 thimbronion: @jack is out: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1465347002426867720]
18:33 signpost yeah, the chorus of circlejerking bros that are more concerned with their USD-denominated holdings than BTC-denominated.
18:35 signpost asciilifeform: there were probably some hopes that jack being pro-BTC would have some positive effect on twitter in time, but I've never considered that likely.
18:35 asciilifeform a
18:35 asciilifeform that heathen pit is intrinsically redditous imho
18:35 * asciilifeform only reads twatterisms when linked here, and even then not always
18:36 thimbronion asciilifeform: most interesting place on the net besides here IMO.
18:36 signpost yep, modeled as the american famous-derp-and-audience social topology, total trash.
18:36 asciilifeform thimbronion: for all i know, there are occasional gibblets of 'interesting' on reddit also
18:36 asciilifeform simply, go and find
18:37 signpost the correct social topology is human-sized, e.g. the number of reasonable pest peerings.
18:37 asciilifeform aaha
18:37 asciilifeform 'monkeysphere'(tm)(r)
18:37 signpost ^
18:38 * signpost back shortly
18:38 asciilifeform >dunbar groups inescapably result in this.
18:40 asciilifeform and that's for a village, or army brigade; in a chat you defo don't want 150 talkers or anywhere near
~ 38 minutes ~
19:18 asciilifeform meanwhile, in earlier lulz, 1.1k $ and counting
19:18 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-23 10:52:44 bonechewer: I am sure asciilifeform has already noticed latest symbolics hw on eBay, remarkably expensive for item advertised as possibly DOA
19:24 asciilifeform interesting how morons have turned these into a kind of shitcoin.
19:24 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-23 13:14:12 asciilifeform: bonechewer: most likely, dimwitted 'collectors'.
19:26 asciilifeform notably, in 30+yrs not a single one of those fuckwads could even be arsed to take high-res photos of the thing. asciilifeform ended up having to buy one simply to get usable pics of pcb !
19:29 PeterL did you learn lots from taking the high res pics?
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19:48 asciilifeform PeterL: see link
19:48 asciilifeform ( and logs )
19:49 asciilifeform ( e.g. learned that there's a cpld handling the 'nubus' glue logic, and will be a bitch to reverse, for instance )
19:49 asciilifeform is actually why asciilifeform would've preferred to get the much slower ver.2 'ivory'. but none was avail.
19:50 asciilifeform subj.
19:52 * asciilifeform sadly not had time to push this effort along recently. was talking to a microscopist at local uni and right then covidiocy hit
19:52 asciilifeform place only recently reopened.
19:53 * asciilifeform purchased what appears to have been dks's entire remaining stock of cpus, for delayering+microscopy. they're still virginal, in crate.
19:54 asciilifeform for functional clone, need not only ic reverse, but board, tho.
19:55 asciilifeform an informant who did not want to be named sent asciilifeform what appears to be complete interfacing docs for the cpu, but it aint enuff to emulate the board as such
19:57 asciilifeform ( there's a proggy which runs on the 68k mac which talks to the board and does i/o incl. disk & video, board per se aint standalone machine )
~ 1 hours 9 minutes ~
21:06 billymg thimbronion: i'm trying to run 9987, started the same way as before and went to connect in weechat, received this after trying `/join #pest`: irc: cannot create nick "" for channel "#pest"
21:08 billymg actually wait, might've been my mistake, let me see...
~ 19 minutes ~
21:28 billymg yes, was my mistake, i'm now up and running on 9987, along with the bot which now appears to be working again and no longer crashing when trying to speak
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