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01:33 asciilifeform verisimilitude: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=288#comment-20010
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01:51 vex still in skeeter country asciilifeform?
01:51 asciilifeform vex: aha
01:51 asciilifeform vex: ~3km from old pad
01:53 vex congrats
01:55 vex am I right in comprehending you have a little more room too?
01:57 vex racks in the wall ftw
02:03 vex hey shinohai, any news from the tweetosphere re bullshitoshi?
02:06 jonsykkel self/netchains are hash of 428byte message?
02:08 jonsykkel if so, you get duplicate hashes by just sending same msg twice within 1sec
02:08 vex $ticker btc usd
02:08 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $56852.81
02:08 jonsykkel or no
02:08 jonsykkel i see im retarded
02:13 jonsykkel another less dum q: deduping should be done based on hash of black packet? (aka use the hmac) or the message hash
02:14 asciilifeform jonsykkel: nope, hash of message
02:14 asciilifeform jonsykkel: black/red includes e.g. bounce which changes
02:14 asciilifeform (not to mention nonce)
02:14 jonsykkel right, so it serves multi purpose
02:15 asciilifeform 2 packets are dupes of 1 anuther if msg is ==.
02:15 asciilifeform and not otherwise.
02:16 asciilifeform and lolno they aint dupes if only time is ==
02:16 jonsykkel hehe
02:16 asciilifeform message must be ==.
02:17 asciilifeform selfchain and netchain are hashes of messages.
02:17 * asciilifeform thought this was 100% clear from the spec
02:18 jonsykkel a lot of text to fit at once in smal hed
02:19 vex you might need to wite the norske spec jonsykkel
02:19 jonsykkel i shud
02:21 vex was it not some norweigiens who bought a dtv license to strem the blockchain?
02:23 jonsykkel not me anyway
02:24 * asciilifeform prior to jonsykkel showing up, could name 3 norwegians , all dead : ibsen, quisling, and naggum
02:24 vex Its fucking cold up there.
02:25 vex walk outside. die
02:25 jonsykkel nah is nice
02:25 jonsykkel xept power bill
02:28 jonsykkel theres not too many more worth mentioning asciilifeform
02:29 jonsykkel me and those ppl
02:30 vex whats naraesiismin weegie?
02:30 vex I'm only joking jonsykkel, pretty sure it doesn't translate
02:31 jonsykkel its good attempt
02:33 vex fuck, you're good
02:34 vex zing
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03:04 vex in other black packets, ccd will appreciate my sincerity when I tell it that I have completely forgotten the prolblem I had
03:07 vex I do recall expecting a long wided solution
03:07 vex *wind
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03:35 jonsykkel sorry about the zinger
03:41 vex don't be. I luv the luls
03:42 jonsykkel must hve hurt tho
03:42 vex I heard it wizz past my eat fo sure
03:49 vex speaking of lulz, punkman, if you wanna play shitcoins in the evm space, the subcontinental l2 thing is the place to play.
03:50 vex up until last month, you'd get 1000 txs for half a rupee
03:50 vex some funny cunt was spamming erry two second block so it didn't get frontrun
04:05 vex buddha had a consenus on the new tx fee basically overnight
04:06 vex and devteam goes brrr
04:14 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWWHI7SE0KQ phf, can u traslate?
~ 18 minutes ~
04:32 vex hanbot's recent writing were powerful. I cried
04:34 vex not evertything is hypertext
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05:10 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKFsmZhQWtg
05:18 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lro80T1eV8
05:20 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO15jDxtVFc
05:22 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnb_3ibUp38 thanks google
05:32 vex why I want tarantino amogngst good pirate movies is anyones guess
05:46 vex https://vimeo.com/13194302
05:46 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaecIn0iLfU
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06:05 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmdiKePVUy8 don't have zips on your shoes. or velcro nitwit
06:05 vex lace and leather only
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06:47 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJKnZ5dnso
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15:18 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
15:18 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $57505.06
15:18 asciilifeform !w poll
15:18 watchglass Polling 17 nodes...
15:18 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov)
15:18 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
15:18 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
15:18 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.023s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:18 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
15:18 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect!
15:18 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.070s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:18 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.090s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710989 (Operator: whaack)
15:18 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.245s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.225s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989
15:18 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.583s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710989
15:19 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
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15:59 bonechewer I am sure asciilifeform has already noticed latest symbolics hw on eBay, remarkably expensive for item advertised as possibly DOA
~ 2 hours 21 minutes ~
18:20 asciilifeform bonechewer: most likely, dimwitted 'collectors'.
18:20 dulapbot (trilema) 2017-08-02 asciilifeform: https://symbolics.lisp.engineer/goals << in other lulz.
18:20 dulapbot (trilema) 2018-01-17 asciilifeform: fromloper: currently i suspect that many, possibly majority, of serious bolix collectors, ~do not want~ there to be an accurate emulator.
18:28 asciilifeform them.
18:28 dulapbot (trilema) 2017-03-22 asciilifeform: the 'collectors', in my experience, have been the farthest possible thing from a help -- quite a hindrance, in fact.
~ 1 hours ~
19:28 thimbronion Of possible interest: received some packets from gregorynyssa's pest station. Successfully decrypted but there's an issue with timestamps. My station seems to think his packets are stale.
19:30 asciilifeform thimbronion: iirc he baked own, yet-unpublished pestron; may be bug on his end
19:31 thimbronion asciilifeform: possibly on my end as well. Haven't had time to compare our timestamp output byte for byte.
19:34 thimbronion Meanwhile I've taken some steps to ensure messages are packed only once. Next up is hearsay message embargoing.
19:34 asciilifeform thimbronion: a++
19:35 asciilifeform thimbronion: dunno whether this relates, but on my station i'm seeing occasional duplicate AT entries (presently for billymg)
19:35 asciilifeform same ip, diff port
19:37 thimbronion asciilifeform: this is intentional. AT currently stores address history.
19:38 asciilifeform a ok
~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~
21:18 asciilifeform thimbronion: a useful pheature for debug log may be to show by how much / in what dir. timestamp stale.
21:19 asciilifeform (for instance possible that gregory5 has his thing sending 32bit epoch times by mistake)
21:19 PeterL did you check to see if your system clocks match?
21:20 thimbronion asciilifeform: possibly blatta is doing that? message.timestamp = int(time.time())
21:20 asciilifeform for that matter prolly useful to warn operator if his station is rejecting errything it gets as stale
21:21 asciilifeform thimbronion: possibly
21:21 thimbronion PeterL: yes
21:21 PeterL does python have a way to specify you want that to be a certain bitsize of interger?
21:23 * asciilifeform does not know
21:23 thimbronion https://docs.python.org/2.7/library/time.html#time.time
21:24 asciilifeform possibly not, even linux only recently (iirc 5.10) started offering 64b times
~ 1 hours 57 minutes ~
23:21 jonsykkel in section 4.2.1 step 8 it says add to dedup baffer. but then later in 4.2.3.2.2: "...embargo interval elapses and the original packet is not received -- the hearsay packet will be processed (placed into the deduplication buffer..."
23:21 jonsykkel imo order of operations is not clear here
23:22 jonsykkel my bad , vas looking at 0xFD spec
23:23 jonsykkel is fixed now
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