00:43 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066223 << It's been quite a number of years, but yes. |
00:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 10:33:50 BingoBoingo: cdd Have you ever seen Kindergarten Cop, the classic film? |
00:44 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066229 << AH AHAHA |
00:44 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 11:45:30 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=who+is+your+daddy+and+what+does+he+do&chan=trilema |
00:45 |
crtdaydreams |
I get it now, gee I've stale humor. |
00:46 |
crtdaydreams |
Sorry vex, pulling the stick out my arse in 3... 2... 1... |
00:47 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066231 << Is there a way I can change that on the WoT? |
00:47 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 11:46:29 signpost: btw "crtdaydream" is a way cooler handle than cdd |
00:51 |
crtdaydreams |
signpost: there's also a reason for being cdd, it's short enough to be a unix command. "cdd -v" etc. Perhaps I could make a website on that premise, a bit like cat-v.org |
00:52 |
crtdaydreams |
...or a shell util of some sorts, what it would do is beyond me though. |
00:56 |
crtdaydreams |
Could be a fun demo project, some ascii art and chiptune. |
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02:10 |
crtdaydreams |
Oh my god. le garden of eden |
02:12 |
crtdaydreams |
What in the ever living fuck is this. |
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03:11 |
* |
asciilifeform was out getting keyz to new pad, looks like coupla km of log, lol, to eat |
03:25 |
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asciilifeform deadly tired, will answr things tomorrow. |
03:31 |
signpost |
congrats on new fort |
03:32 |
signpost |
crtdaydreams either you like, doesn't matter to me. just sign a message to that effect if you want to change it. |
03:32 |
signpost |
just thought the name was neat. |
03:33 |
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signpost notices a profound sense of "something died recently" in the younger generation, gives me some hope. |
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03:33 |
signpost |
had a huge chuckle the first time I saw girls walking down the street dressed like my mother in the 90s. |
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03:59 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066321 << Not sure what you mean by that, could you elaborate please? |
03:59 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 22:33:25 signpost: notices a profound sense of "something died recently" in the younger generation, gives me some hope. |
04:06 |
signpost |
crtdaydreams: there's a lot of 90s nostalgia in the kids that were born after 2000 |
04:07 |
signpost |
and 80s |
04:08 |
signpost |
and I was drawing a parallel with that and your "crtdaydreams" |
04:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066232 << be prepared to pick up 'lcr meter' and recap. (e.g. asciilifeform's circa-2001 new-old-stock 21" already needs recap. |
04:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 11:47:13 signpost: been meaning to ebay himself a trinitron sometime |
04:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-09 22:45:45 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in sads, asciilifeform dusts off priceless 'trinitron', and picture wobbles. no known cure. |
04:12 |
asciilifeform |
( lcr meter for the innocent. ) |
04:13 |
signpost |
yeah got one of those kicking around |
04:13 |
signpost |
sounds like possibly more pain than it's worth |
04:13 |
asciilifeform |
depends, naturally, on how badly you want the perfect msdos eden. |
04:13 |
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asciilifeform sadly not had time to even contemplate |
04:18 |
crtdaydreams |
signpost: part of that 90s nostalgia is that I grew up with a CRT despite being of the post-millennium generation in a 1st world country. |
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04:20 |
crtdaydreams |
Having learned the history of hackerdom and personal-computing in it's infancy, I must admit that there is a silent wish that I were born into the days of the C64 and low-level low-complexity technology. |
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04:23 |
signpost |
reasonable and healthy perspective imo |
04:23 |
crtdaydreams |
Then again, should that've been the case I wouldn't be here reminiscing over a past that I never experienced. |
04:24 |
crtdaydreams |
I would not have learned of lisp, and it's related technologies. |
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04:25 |
crtdaydreams |
signpost: What sort of PC did you grow up with? |
04:27 |
signpost |
vaguely recall some packard bell thing, might've been a relative's. spent most of my young years on a "compaq presario" running win95 |
04:27 |
signpost |
booted into DOS for various games |
04:29 |
signpost |
whoops |
04:31 |
signpost |
later a neighbor gifted me a cobbled together tower and I put slackware on it |
04:45 |
crtdaydreams |
Neat. I think for a coupla years I was on 95/98 then went to XP for most of my younger years. |
04:46 |
crtdaydreams |
I had this HP tower at home, when I went over to my grandmas my uncle (who was living there at the time) had a dell laptop that I would play games on whenever I went over. |
04:47 |
crtdaydreams |
I pretty wasted away my childhood on video games and eventually yewtoob vidya. |
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04:48 |
crtdaydreams |
s/pretty/pretty much/ |
04:48 |
crtdaydreams |
I think that was most of my generation actually. |
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06:25 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066296 << sounds like too much coffee to me |
06:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 16:03:54 verisimilitude: I be not the only one here drinking six or eight cups of coffee each day, right? |
06:26 |
punkman |
if I go past 2-4 shots of espresso, I switch to decaf |
06:33 |
punkman |
also been enjoying cup of goat milk with 3-4 scoops of cacao, nice energy boost for the morning |
06:41 |
punkman |
giving yourself caffeine addiction is rather miserable, it's good to switch it up |
06:47 |
punkman |
nice https://twitter.com/AlexJonesWs/status/1460780913420382211 |
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06:55 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066322 << I wonder if all this "vintage fashion" is happening because the girls are too poor to afford new clothes (that are not H&M quality) |
06:55 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 22:33:47 signpost: had a huge chuckle the first time I saw girls walking down the street dressed like my mother in the 90s. |
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11:20 |
thimbronion |
punkman: confirmed in some cases |
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11:44 |
thimbronion |
For blatta debuggers, my live blatta log can be found here: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/blatta.log |
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13:06 |
PeterL |
my daughter (age 13) recently scored a big pile of clothes from an estate sale. 80's/90's fashion, it's all pretty sturdy stuff |
13:07 |
PeterL |
she also got a wedding dress, which she dyed a dark purple to use as a haloween costume |
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13:46 |
scoopbot |
New post on Thimbron: Blatta 9988: deduplication by message hash |
13:48 |
shinohai |
oh neat scoopbot is back |
13:48 |
PeterL |
yeah, I never figured out what was wrong with it, I tried running it again and it worked |
13:49 |
PeterL |
seems like for some reason it was having trouble connecting to the IRC network, but the problem seems to have gone away |
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15:07 |
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BingoBoingo routinely consumes 2-3 pots of coffee daily |
15:08 |
shinohai |
^ |
15:08 |
BingoBoingo |
signpost: 80/90's nostalia definitely seems to be a trend |
15:09 |
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BingoBoingo vaguely recalls wave of 60/70's nostalgia forced via television during 90's |
15:11 |
shinohai |
Montevideo Vice, where BingoBoingo and local sluts bust up pirate tit rings off the coast. |
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15:42 |
signpost |
BingoBoingo: sure, but from the 60s/70s nostalgia you get the psychedelic revival which had significant impact on the views/behavior of me and my peers. |
15:43 |
signpost |
it's easy to trivialize the young, then suddenly they own the world. |
15:46 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066340 << thought on this, and it's pretty self aware. the advantage of coming later is knowing how the story ended. |
15:46 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 23:24:18 crtdaydreams: I would not have learned of lisp, and it's related technologies. |
15:47 |
signpost |
to wish to have been there is to wish to fail with a lost cause. better to know why they failed and fix it. |
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15:48 |
signpost |
or to quote asciilifeform (and btw this is something I continue to dwell upon.) algo was always broken |
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15:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-12-17 19:02:50 asciilifeform: billymg: if it at any point even makes sense to discuss 'the fed of bitcoin' -- in any other light than you might discuss 'a 2 that is also a 3' -- the algo was broken. (and was always broken, then.) |
15:49 |
signpost |
can be as true of cultures as code, and really there's no distinction. code's just culture on a computer. |
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15:57 |
signpost |
$ticker btc usd |
15:57 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $59662.73 |
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16:16 |
shinohai |
$adj |
16:16 |
busybot |
The next difficulty adjustment for BTC will occur in appx. 1,492 blocks ~ 9 days, 20 hours, and 38 minutes |
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16:34 |
asciilifeform |
repasting from pestlog (which aint 100% working presently) : thimbronion : what is almost certainly happening is that msgs with lower bouncecounts are getting zapped by deduper, and identical copies bearing higher bouncecounts are the ones being rebroadcast some % of the time, leaving to ~random desaparecidos. |
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16:35 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: makes senes |
16:35 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: imho the only proper fix for this is to actually have the embargo logic |
16:35 |
thimbronion |
*sense |
16:35 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: yep |
16:35 |
asciilifeform |
that way if there's an immediate (i.e. direct from peer) copy of a given msg on the way to your station, that one is treated as canonical (and rebroadcasts will have bounce==1) |
16:36 |
asciilifeform |
(and if there aint -- the station has a chance to receive the 1 with the lowest bounce count prior to rebroadcasting) |
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16:37 |
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asciilifeform suspects that this could account for 100% of the desaparecidos observed so far |
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16:52 |
thimbronion |
I need a better local test net |
17:03 |
BingoBoingo |
signpost: there seems be be a connection with the 90's nostalgia and the era's stoner culture. Maybe it's just an echo, but it's palpable |
17:04 |
BingoBoingo |
And generally the young adults today seem less retarded than self and peers at their age, but maybe I'm just picky about the ones I entertain? |
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17:06 |
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BingoBoingo would not be surprised if Zoomers become the next Boomers |
17:08 |
signpost |
yeah, this is what I'm grunting at too. they seem less retarded. |
17:08 |
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signpost found 'em pleasant company at the last acl fest. |
17:10 |
signpost |
BingoBoingo: whereas the 90s stoner culture was peripheral, and most millenials were (and are) extremely conservative (either the lefist or right-wing versions), these ones seem like they're running the show. |
17:11 |
signpost |
and they're not as afraid as the millenials. |
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17:11 |
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signpost considers his generation to be comprised entirely of cowards. |
17:12 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: my 'within few days' is stretching like thick spit -- cuz this task also is starting to show 'spittoonesque' symptoms. realized getblocks/getheaders works as a DoS weapon, and then upon further investigation, getheaders is showing similar, mysterious node-shitting-itself characteristics. |
17:13 |
signpost |
hue, spittoon-c++ does not treat time estimates kindly |
17:14 |
cgra |
i mean, similar self-shitting as the 'getdata wedge' does |
17:15 |
cgra |
signpost: yea... if you have time estimate, you're already wrong -- no reliable estimates exist! :) |
17:16 |
cgra |
repeatedly forced to ask yourself how deep do you really want to dig |
17:16 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: this summarizes asciilifeform's entire history of work on the subj |
17:17 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: right! :) |
17:19 |
cgra |
anyway, just an ack that still intending to finish a summary |
17:19 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: a ok. no reason to hurry |
17:21 |
BingoBoingo |
signpost: I suspect it's the greater distance from having Boomers in their homes that is giving Zoomers that advantage over Millenials. Boomers just failed that bad. |
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17:24 |
BingoBoingo |
At least the Zoomers have a pragmatism the Boomer to Millenial span seems to lack |
17:38 |
BingoBoingo |
In other news, the F-35 flying brick is getting the "nuclear capable" designation soon... Southern hemisphere keeps looking better |
17:43 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: lol, did they finally install 'crm-114' box in'em or wat makes the difference there |
17:48 |
punkman |
I've been exposed to a bunch of zoomers via the local (board)game shop, they don't seem less retarded. perhaps a bit more "genre-savvy" in some areas. |
17:49 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066399 << this makes some sense. these kids don't remember a time before constant financial crisis, incessant surveillance, etc |
17:49 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 12:11:19 signpost: and they're not as afraid as the millenials. |
17:49 |
punkman |
millenials are getting to middle age, having accomplished nothing, lots of existential dread going around |
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19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform, Apparently so |
19:43 |
BingoBoingo |
CRM-114 and paperwork |
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20:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066283 << good find; prolly oughta change spec to simply require that all 3 happen prior to session being considered to start |
20:02 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 15:07:15 jonsykkel: re: "Must be the first/second/third command", ftr irssi seems to send in order PASS,NICK,USER |
20:02 |
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asciilifeform mistakenly assumed that the orig. given order is standardized |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066292 << seems eminently vulnerable to 'exam-taking' (e.g. suppose all the derps submit to it then only to start an npm-prime where same crapola immediately moves to) |
20:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 15:58:19 verisimilitude: Anyway, here's something stupid and perhaps amusing: I will pay you cash to delete your npm module |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
... this is the basic problem with any out-of-wot bounty scheme. |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066296 << seems that this'd give heroic tolerance and ~0 useful effect |
20:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 16:03:54 verisimilitude: I be not the only one here drinking six or eight cups of coffee each day, right? |
20:05 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066298 << iirc this aint even the 1st purported 'compatible client from scratch'. they aint necessarily uninteresting, but they aint, for fundamental reasons, plug-in replacements for trb, even if on the surface 100% correct somehow |
20:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 17:39:56 bonechewer: I expect asciilifeform will be too disgusted by the segshit'ism to do more than flame this, but I thought a from-scratch reimplementation of bitcoind in C might be newsworthy, even if only as an organ donor for useful coad |
20:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-10 09:43:25 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-10#1064697 << in #t asciilifeform & mp had kilometres of remarkably unproductive discussion about this. the heart of the matter aint complicated tho -- you don't necessarily need 'bug for bug compat.', but you do need sufficiently close emulation so that your noads cannot be induced to fork. |
20:07 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066336 << wait till you get chance to use a ~quality~ crt ! ( chances are you haven't seen one , they were coupla. thou. 1990s usd ! ) |
20:07 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 23:18:06 crtdaydreams: signpost: part of that 90s nostalgia is that I grew up with a CRT despite being of the post-millennium generation in a 1st world country. |
20:07 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066337 << the deep seekrit is that 'those days' aint over if you know where to look. |
20:07 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 23:20:56 crtdaydreams: Having learned the history of hackerdom and personal-computing in it's infancy, I must admit that there is a silent wish that I were born into the days of the C64 and low-level low-complexity technology. |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
( and could return en masse, if a sane iron were to be fabbed ! ) |
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20:09 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066348 << errybody 'wastes' childhood, in this sense, imho |
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20:09 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 23:47:55 crtdaydreams: I pretty wasted away my childhood on video games and eventually yewtoob vidya. |
20:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066356 << lizards won't fire smallpox, not only ultra-simple to defend, but lotsa folx already immunized ( e.g. asciilifeform & his + previous generations of orcs ) |
20:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 01:47:17 punkman: nice https://twitter.com/AlexJonesWs/status/1460780913420382211 |
20:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066366 << curious what this was ( do you have logs ? ) |
20:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 08:49:24 PeterL: seems like for some reason it was having trouble connecting to the IRC network, but the problem seems to have gone away |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
20:11 |
dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 154d 16h 8m |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
^ wasn't a fullbore outage |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
20:11 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $60219.01 |
20:11 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
20:11 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
20:11 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov) |
20:11 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
20:11 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
20:11 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
20:11 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect! |
20:11 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710179 |
20:11 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 |
20:11 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.111s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 |
20:11 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
20:11 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710179 |
20:11 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.087s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
20:11 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.170s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 |
20:11 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710179 (Operator: whaack) |
20:11 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.284s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 |
20:11 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 |
20:12 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.937s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 |
20:13 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
20:16 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066417 << what did typical plebe 'accomplish', historically? (other than questionable point of breeding) |
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20:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 12:49:59 punkman: millenials are getting to middle age, having accomplished nothing, lots of existential dread going around |
20:17 |
asciilifeform |
seems like current (i.e. post- Great Theft) situation is a return to the ancient norm, as intended by the lizards, where 'you work a day, and what do you get? anuther day older and deeper in debt'(tm)(r) |
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20:17 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-13 14:38:31 asciilifeform: mats: it doesn't seem like we disagree re 'what' is happening. but possibly disagree in pov. per asciilifeform , what it all is -- is a massive theft. |
20:18 |
asciilifeform |
near as asciilifeform can tell, the 'dread' is mainly an affliction of folx who were hooked on the drug of 'feeling significant' (typically via bureaucracy) and 'their lying eyes' contradict |
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20:20 |
asciilifeform |
(rather like how in e.g. 1990s ru , impoverished former 'significants' drank to death by the thou.s) |
20:20 |
asciilifeform |
incl. yeltsin himself. |
20:20 |
asciilifeform |
illusory 'significance' has a cost. |
20:21 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066379 << cultures, like organisms, seem to have finite lifespan. |
20:21 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 10:49:11 signpost: can be as true of cultures as code, and really there's no distinction. code's just culture on a computer. |
20:22 |
asciilifeform |
they are born, they senesce, they die. |
20:29 |
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signpost quite happy as an ephemeral bag of shit and saltwater |
20:30 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066410 << proximity to boomers for any length of time is 100% a health hazard |
20:30 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 12:21:21 BingoBoingo: signpost: I suspect it's the greater distance from having Boomers in their homes that is giving Zoomers that advantage over Millenials. Boomers just failed that bad. |
20:32 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066436 << many of the precocious fail later because narcissism deranges |
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20:32 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 15:09:13 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066348 << errybody 'wastes' childhood, in this sense, imho |
20:33 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066466 << I think the point is that where are the millenial elites? |
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20:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 15:16:19 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066417 << what did typical plebe 'accomplish', historically? (other than questionable point of breeding) |
20:33 |
signpost |
elite boomers at least tagged the moon with a couple ICBMs with doods strapped on |
20:34 |
signpost |
eh no, that was the war generation, nvm! |
20:35 |
signpost |
anyhow the millenials still have time to do something, and perhaps bitcoin turns out to be it, but time's ticking and so far their contributions to bitcoin appear to be "shit bolted to side" |
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20:35 |
bonechewer |
"born, senesce, die" documented imho well by John Glubb |
20:37 |
bonechewer |
Not a single milennial at my $SALTMINE can coad in C++; task falls to grizzled me |
20:38 |
signpost |
lol, of c++ I'm forced to say "cowards aren't always wrong" |
20:39 |
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bonechewer detests C++ but will do quite a few things for money |
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21:02 |
signpost |
sure, just chuckling |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066482 << likely not exists yet -- gerontocracy a la sovok |
21:11 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 15:33:26 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066466 << I think the point is that where are the millenial elites? |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066480 << possibly not merely many but most |
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21:12 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 15:32:09 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066436 << many of the precocious fail later because narcissism deranges |
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22:21 |
PeterL |
thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Cevk << crashes if you try to send a dm to a handle that you do not have as a peer |
22:34 |
thimbronion |
PeterL: ty! |
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23:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066486 << there's imho a quite serious systemic defect in bitcoin (and no, i'm not aware of any possible 'fix') -- the reward structure favours early-adopting morons |
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23:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 15:35:23 signpost: anyhow the millenials still have time to do something, and perhaps bitcoin turns out to be it, but time's ticking and so far their contributions to bitcoin appear to be "shit bolted to side" |
23:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-17 10:48:39 signpost: or to quote asciilifeform (and btw this is something I continue to dwell upon.) algo was always broken |
23:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-11 15:08:31 asciilifeform: because, as things now, there is absolutely ~nothing~ productive you can do that will get rewarded 1/1000th as much as 'having loaded up on hodl in 2011' |
23:34 |
asciilifeform |
... favours so heavily that if somebody 'was there in 2011' and lost 99% of his hodl, is still fatter than anyone who 'is hero' ~today~, regardless of the latter's actual valuable contribution (to anyffin at all, incl. maintenance of troo bitcoin & assoc. systems) |
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23:35 |
asciilifeform |
would go as far as to say that the ~only means to seriously (i.e. by 2010s measures) profit today is via fraud. hence the abundance of 'shit-bolted-to-the-side artists'. |
23:35 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:56:58 asciilifeform: and given as the entire purpose of a shitcoin is to 'replay history' with perp at the center. |
23:38 |
asciilifeform |
shitoshi's war crime of yielding bitcoin to winblows morons in '09 will be paid for, for potentially very long time. |
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23:41 |
asciilifeform |
aand shitcoins will prolly always remain an attractive nuisance to the dimwitted who reason (correctly!) 'the derps who were there around shitoshi in '09 were no better than me, wai can't i have 1000 btc, maybe can if we can replay history' |
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23:41 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:55:48 asciilifeform: i.e. as soon as perp starts to notice that he's no longer the dominant miner, will 'upgrade' the pow, and the chumps will eat it up (given as they ate a shitcoin to begin with, being chumps) |
23:48 |
asciilifeform |
naggum described microshit as a once-in-a-civilization mistake, not the least reason being the damage done by the morons trying to 'repeat its success'. similar here. |
23:48 |
asciilifeform |
when stupidity is massively rewarded, you get (surprise?) massively moar of it. |
23:56 |
asciilifeform |
afaik the ~only ways to get hold of the proverbial 1000btc today, is 1) fraud&theft 2) direct access to money printer with which to buy it |
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23:57 |
asciilifeform |
plebes are laser-focused on #1 ; lizards on #2 . |
23:59 |
asciilifeform |
lizards aint actually interested in ~spending~ their hodls, they need'em strictly for paperization, maintaining volatility so as to prevent their pyramid of traditional fuffles from toppling |
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