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14:30 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:30 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $58847.28
14:30 asciilifeform !w poll
14:30 watchglass Polling 17 nodes...
14:30 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
14:30 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
14:30 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
14:30 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=706944
14:30 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.085s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:30 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.103s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:30 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=706944
14:30 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.095s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944
14:30 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944
14:31 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=706944 (Operator: whaack)
14:31 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.169s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944
14:31 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.244s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944
14:31 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.321s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706746
14:31 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.337s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944
14:31 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.574s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=706944
14:31 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
14:32 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
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16:22 cgra asciilifeform: so if you had a 27" 16:9 vertical display, smth like 22pt font size? when you're rummaging items like trb source, do you ever zoom out?
16:23 asciilifeform cgra: 3 x 30" verticals (2160x3840) currently. 18pt. on occasion emacs 'follow mode'
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16:23 asciilifeform (or what means 'zoom out' ?)
16:24 cgra in the series of noob questions, there's another, possibly related: what would make tab indentation superior (in c/c++ context, if nowhere else) to spaces?
16:24 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-01-21 mircea_popescu: in honesty, without any exaggeration, i would estimate the barrier to contribution that whitespace-for-tab puts in front of me is actually larger than the barrier blindness put in front of chetty.
16:24 asciilifeform cgra: folx who like tab indentation, usually like because adjustable (can set tab to x cols, for preferred x)
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16:26 * asciilifeform when working w/ other people's coad, usually uses 'dtrt-indent' to match existing style
16:27 cgra http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1061975 << i'm starting to getting a feeling it's because similarly want ~80 cols and deeply nested indentation will could seriously cramp things up. or smth else?
16:27 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 12:24:41 asciilifeform: cgra: folx who like tab indentation, usually like because adjustable (can set tab to x cols, for preferred x)
16:28 asciilifeform problem with 'just use tabs' is that it gives limited # of indent positions.
16:29 asciilifeform for e.g. commonlisp, this makes for ugly.
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17:10 asciilifeform meanwhile,
17:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://mvdstandard.net kaput ?
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17:51 asciilifeform !q seen BingoBoingo
17:51 dulapbot BingoBoingo last seen here on 2021-10-20 13:49:33: Uptober continues
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18:30 cgra unless i counted 2+1=4, your numbers seem to add up to about 160 cols, not 80 cols. but yeah, i begin to understand asciilifeform prefers pretty large font, compared to my usual 10-12pt (on 27" 2560x1440).
18:30 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 12:23:45 asciilifeform: cgra: 3 x 30" verticals (2160x3840) currently. 18pt. on occasion emacs 'follow mode'
18:30 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-26 13:53:04 asciilifeform: cgra: 80, lol
18:31 asciilifeform cgra: your #s aren't off, but i do have the runtime adjust feature (fughet where in config it was) for +/- font pt
18:32 cgra asciilifeform: so can view, say, in 120 cols if thrown such a pile at you?
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18:34 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-26#1061939 << do you have one of those old-fashioned line-printers? I have been meaning to get one.
18:34 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-26 12:46:52 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-26#1061936 << i do the paper thing for just about any nontrivial item (i.e. that takes >1d of thought) so muchly prefer 80.
18:36 asciilifeform gregory5: i had one for a while (well, not 'proper' lineprinter, but line-matrix) but retired it for colour laser duplex thing
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18:36 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-26#1061948 << having 80 columsn is not good for nested function-calls, unless both your variable names and function-names are very short.
18:36 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-26 13:53:04 asciilifeform: cgra: 80, lol
18:37 asciilifeform (it doesn't eat hole paper, sadly, but does eat 'legal size' (extra-large american paper) which almost as nice)
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18:37 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1061995 << nice to hear.
18:37 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:37:01 asciilifeform: (it doesn't eat hole paper, sadly, but does eat 'legal size' (extra-large american paper) which almost as nice)
18:37 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1061992 << so you have to use CUPS?
18:37 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:36:36 asciilifeform: gregory5: i had one for a while (well, not 'proper' lineprinter, but line-matrix) but retired it for colour laser duplex thing
18:38 asciilifeform gregory5: cups ~dunwork sadly. i use the print-from-usbdrive thing, lol
18:39 gregory5 I was so excited when I finally got CUPS to work with my Taiwanese inkjet-printer.
18:39 gregory5 printer-ink is very cheap in Taiwan, so inkjets actually make sense over laser-printing.
18:40 asciilifeform gregory5: there are even inkjets which take straight bottles (vs the scam-cartridge thing). problem is that if you don't print at least erry month, head dries.
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18:40 asciilifeform then you gotta scrub it
18:40 asciilifeform asciilifeform say nothx
18:45 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062003 << small price to pay for me.
18:45 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:40:21 asciilifeform: gregory5: there are even inkjets which take straight bottles (vs the scam-cartridge thing). problem is that if you don't print at least erry month, head dries.
18:45 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062003 << that is what I mean. the bottle-configuration is ubiquitous in Taiwan.
18:45 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:40:21 asciilifeform: gregory5: there are even inkjets which take straight bottles (vs the scam-cartridge thing). problem is that if you don't print at least erry month, head dries.
18:46 asciilifeform a
18:46 asciilifeform gregory5: i hadn't realized btw that you've made it to taiwan
18:46 asciilifeform how long ago?
18:47 gregory5 asciilifeform: I lived in Taiwan in 2019 and half of 2020. currently I am in Eastern Europe, and waiting for the Mainland of China to let me in.
18:48 asciilifeform aa
18:48 asciilifeform gregory5: visa bureaucracy ?
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18:49 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062015 << obtaining a visa has not been easy owing to additional requirements which were imposed during the pandemic.
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18:49 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:48:55 asciilifeform: gregory5: visa bureaucracy ?
18:49 asciilifeform a that.
18:52 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1061989 << often enuff (some people have no concept of col# at all)
18:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:32:29 cgra: asciilifeform: so can view, say, in 120 cols if thrown such a pile at you?
18:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-26 12:49:15 asciilifeform: working w/ commercial client who doesn't do 80col (or any limit at all) and the coad looks like shit on paper
18:53 mats https://onthebrink-podcast.com/lancium
18:58 asciilifeform mats: asciilifeform can very rarely be arsed to listen to tape -- anyffin remarkable in there ?
18:59 mats the show notes are detailed, if any of that interests you
18:59 asciilifeform curious re 'How different ASIC vintages affect the power price you can tolerate for the units and what interruptibility they can deal with'
18:59 mats i learned more about renewable energy arb in texas
18:59 asciilifeform ( why wouldn't all miners be 'interruptible' in this sense ? )
19:02 mats they are
19:02 * asciilifeform wonders whether anyone has tried integrating miner into pv panel. ~0 transmission loss, and if the panel gets shaded, the thing simply cranks down, and then cranks back up when cloud passes, etc
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19:03 asciilifeform tile'em together in whatever qty.
19:04 mats i wouldn't necessarily want to run a 2021 era asic at the same time as a 2021 pv in 2035
19:05 asciilifeform no need to make'em on 1 die lol
19:05 asciilifeform can go where the usual inverter box goes
19:06 asciilifeform this is simply 1 way to make use of the 'interruptible' aspect of miner, obv
19:07 mats i imagine there's periods during the day where you can get paid more by feeding into the grid than mining
19:07 mats but i'm just an idiot speculating about things i don't understand well
19:08 asciilifeform mats: as i currently understand, miners are often enuff folx who specifically want their output in btc, rather than fiatola (and hence willing to participate in what often enuff is -ev process for it)
19:08 asciilifeform i.e. it's a way to obtain coin w/out the obv disadvantages of buying it at market
19:10 mats energy producers who are mining presumably want to maximise profit per mw, and having a customer other than the grid is handy
19:10 asciilifeform re feeding into grid -- req's inverter and the attendant losses; not to mention it has to be near the grid, and in a jurisdiction where you can get moar than simply offset against your existing balance w/ the util co
19:11 asciilifeform whereas pv-miner could be just about anywhere, a single sat dish could easily serve any # of units in e.g. alaska
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19:12 asciilifeform (or oceanic buoy, etc)
19:13 asciilifeform (phree cooling!)
19:14 * asciilifeform suspects it isn't done (at least afaik) simply because conventional grid current too cheap atm
19:18 punkman http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062003 << these are the only inkjets worth buying
19:18 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:40:21 asciilifeform: gregory5: there are even inkjets which take straight bottles (vs the scam-cartridge thing). problem is that if you don't print at least erry month, head dries.
19:19 punkman let mine sit a little too long though, and it's clogged
19:22 punkman http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062029 << ASICs being scarce, it's not great putting them on intermittent power source
19:22 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 15:02:16 asciilifeform: wonders whether anyone has tried integrating miner into pv panel. ~0 transmission loss, and if the panel gets shaded, the thing simply cranks down, and then cranks back up when cloud passes, etc
19:24 mats in a random assortment of stale news, https://wccftech.com/car-thieves-arrested-after-using-a-nintendo-game-boy-knock-off-to-bypass-security
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19:24 mats https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-09-28/far-right-cryptocurrency-follows-ideology-across-borders pankkake cameo
19:24 mats https://cis.org/Bensman/Historic-United-States-First-National-Guard-Soldiers-Start-Arresting-Illegal-Migrants
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19:27 mats https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3150699/chinas-population-could-halve-within-next-45-years-new-study
19:28 mats https://asiatimes.com/2021/10/indias-quest-for-water 'It’s a serious matter if “21 Indian cities – including Delhi, Bengaluru, Chennai and Hyderabad – will run out of groundwater by 2020, affecting 100 million people, and 40% of India’s population will have no access to drinking water by 2030,” as NITI Aayog’s 2018 Composite Water Management Index reported.'
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19:34 mats are asics scarce atm though? hash is still way down from all time highs
19:41 thimbronion CR's immigration system is 'down' so my appointment was canceled. Relatedly, I was informed that work visas for IT workers are impossible to get because there is enough local talent.
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19:53 asciilifeform wb punkman
19:54 asciilifeform mats: they're only 'scarce' from a retail pov
19:55 asciilifeform (i.e. serious miners are vertically integrated and afaik have been for yrs)
19:56 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062054 << this reads like a lul -- if genuinely 'have no access to water' then population will reduce, via thirst and madmaxing, to a # which does
19:56 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 15:28:14 mats: https://asiatimes.com/2021/10/indias-quest-for-water 'It’s a serious matter if “21 Indian cities – including Delhi, Bengaluru, Chennai and Hyderabad – will run out of groundwater by 2020, affecting 100 million people, and 40% of India’s population will have no access to drinking water by 2030,” as NITI Aayog’s 2018 Composite Water Management Index reported.'
19:59 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062052 << from linked piece seems moar like a gesture (to pad abbott's resume for eventual potus campaign)
19:59 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 15:24:48 mats: https://cis.org/Bensman/Historic-United-States-First-National-Guard-Soldiers-Start-Arresting-Illegal-Migrants
20:01 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062050 << lulzy, esp. in re modern plasticars with radio keys (100% have widely known masterkey). they are built to be easily stolen w/out so much as breaking glass. (can speculate why, and you'll likely be right)
20:01 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 15:24:04 mats: in a random assortment of stale news, https://wccftech.com/car-thieves-arrested-after-using-a-nintendo-game-boy-knock-off-to-bypass-security
20:02 asciilifeform that someone's charging 27k$ for a hackrf cum lcd plus a little perlscript is also lulzy.
20:08 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062056 << i thought thimbronion had bought a house there ? (or even this aint enuff for a visa?!)
20:08 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 15:41:50 thimbronion: CR's immigration system is 'down' so my appointment was canceled. Relatedly, I was informed that work visas for IT workers are impossible to get because there is enough local talent.
20:08 asciilifeform (or hm, possibl. that was whaack ?)
20:08 asciilifeform !q seen whaack
20:08 dulapbot whaack last seen here on 2021-09-10 12:37:34: once i started getting symptoms i started to really feel just how uncomfortable the mac keyboard is
20:13 billymg i bought a property pre-pandemic but immigration has been gummed up ever since march 2020, to add to gregory5 and thimbronion's accounts
20:13 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 14:49:31 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062015 << obtaining a visa has not been easy owing to additional requirements which were imposed during the pandemic.
20:13 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 15:41:50 thimbronion: CR's immigration system is 'down' so my appointment was canceled. Relatedly, I was informed that work visas for IT workers are impossible to get because there is enough local talent.
20:13 asciilifeform billymg: i'd naively think 'i live here' is enuff for a visa
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20:13 asciilifeform 'investment visa' or whatever they call it
20:13 billymg i'm officially legal here now, as of 2 months ago
20:14 asciilifeform billymg: congrats!
20:14 mats in more car stuff, https://github.com/HackingIntoYourHeart/Unoriginal-Rice-Patty
20:14 billymg first of all, couldn't even file the papers until recently because immigration *completely* shut down for just over a year
20:14 mats http://samy.pl/opensesame
20:15 billymg second, now that i've filed i'm told that the wait is expected to be around 10-12 months from filing due to the backlog (caused by the shut down the previous year)
20:15 billymg vs. the typical 90 days in 2019 and earlier
20:15 billymg and add to that, i'm in a weird state where, can legally live here, but not legally drive
20:16 billymg must do "border run" to renew tourist visa for those privileges, apparently because "separate government department"
20:16 asciilifeform nuts
20:16 billymg and those border runs now are quite costly because when you return you're forced to buy the covid "traveler's insurance"
20:16 asciilifeform mats: it is interesting how non-joke crypto is de-facto banned in 'radio key' market
20:17 asciilifeform (it aint hard at all to make a proper one, if you think about it, a coupla MB of rom will hold onetime keys enuff for century+ of auto/garage opening/closing)
20:17 billymg and i hear that the tourist visa stamp they give you is now tied to how many days of insurance you purchased, which also has to line up with your "return ticket" if traveling by plane
20:18 mats tesla crypto is supposed to be pretty good
20:18 billymg if opting for the full 90 days of traveler's insurance it's apparently like $2-3k iirc
20:18 billymg so the whole thing amounts to a forced shakedown every 90 days
20:18 asciilifeform mats: tesla's cryto afaik is largely to keep 'owner' from enabling 'subscription' features w/out paying, lol
20:19 asciilifeform tesla auto is afaik the textbook 'post-ownership society'(tm)(r) lizard product.
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20:20 asciilifeform complete w/ undisableable gsm orifice.
20:22 asciilifeform billymg: i suppose tourists aint needed anymoar, Officially
20:22 billymg asciilifeform: right, just get money directly from IMF loans?
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20:22 asciilifeform aha
20:22 asciilifeform no need for the meatsacks to carry it in by hand
20:23 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062075 << if i was homeless, probably would be
20:23 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 16:13:29 asciilifeform: billymg: i'd naively think 'i live here' is enuff for a visa
20:24 billymg one more for the fishwraps collection
20:25 asciilifeform 'this is good for bitcoin'(tm)(r)
20:29 mats i mean the key fob crypto was previously broken by researchers and its been fixed
20:29 * asciilifeform suspects that lulzstories like this are simply to distract morons from the plain-as-daylight existing daily reich.confiscations
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20:29 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-13 15:40:34 asciilifeform: y'know , the 1 where plebe now expected to pay 2-3x for the SAME FUCKING CARBOARD BOX he lived in '19 in.
20:29 mats https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=31314
20:29 mats https://github.com/tomwimmenhove/subarufobrob
20:30 asciilifeform mats: they only ever get 'fixed' a la stuxnet
20:31 asciilifeform mats: for the obv. reason that Officially-approved car thieves (incl. 'repo man') like to be able to drive off w/out breaking glass or scratching paint.
20:33 billymg re: rents, i was recently looking at listings, both for sale and rent, in/around austin, tx. compared to the last time i looked (in 2019) sale prices and rentals of actual homes seem to have gone up 2-2.5x across the board. however, rents in the corporate owned towers downtown, completely flat
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20:34 billymg which sort of made sense, since those are more or less reserved as the dormitories for the applezon workers in the area
20:34 asciilifeform billymg: well noshit, what with the 'make plebes burn less petrol' 'pandemic' setup
20:35 mats seems like consumers don't give a shit about fob security
20:35 asciilifeform point being, morons get excited over a (notional) 'usg will drain from yer bank acct' but somehow draining yer savings (as well as future income) via inflationism is unremarkable
20:36 asciilifeform mats: at one time konsoomer couldn't even be arsed to lock doors
20:37 billymg asciilifeform: right, and i failed to see how an "officially" fed-based bank would be much different from the existing de facto fed owned system
20:37 asciilifeform 0 diff
20:37 billymg e.g. afaik can still monitor all transactions and freeze account whenever they feel like it now
20:37 asciilifeform already sop.
20:50 gregory5 asciilifeform: so the Establishment is trying to pressure people to live in apartments instead of single-family houses?
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20:51 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062112 << where is that extra demand for single-family houses coming from, though?
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20:51 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 16:33:22 billymg: re: rents, i was recently looking at listings, both for sale and rent, in/around austin, tx. compared to the last time i looked (in 2019) sale prices and rentals of actual homes seem to have gone up 2-2.5x across the board. however, rents in the corporate owned towers downtown, completely flat
20:53 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062106 << this is consistent with Patrick Wood's theory that the American deep state is trying to empty non-urban areas of residents, in order to turn those areas into exclusive wildlife-conservation areas and natural-resource zones.
20:53 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 16:29:14 asciilifeform: suspects that lulzstories like this are simply to distract morons from the plain-as-daylight existing daily reich.confiscations
21:00 billymg gregory5: my guess would be that the increased rents in the mom'n'pop owned units is a result of the same forces driving up the sales prices, e.g. mostly currency debasement
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21:01 billymg and the corporate owned buildings can stay flat, since they're essentially subsidized housing for the single 20-30 year old office workers
21:13 mats if the building has lot of debt, and a bunch of empty units, they might have to post more collateral in order to raise rents
21:15 mats and it might be easier to just leave them empty
21:23 mats https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/11/27/the-paradox-of-persistent-vacancies-and-high-prices related reading
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21:39 mats er, reduce rents
21:40 mats https://old.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/innhah/nearly_twothirds_of_new_york_restaurants_may_have/g49g4c5 this is pretty good too, if you're not bored yet
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22:38 billymg mats: these explain why the buildings can't reduce rents, but what i was describing is a situation where the entire surrounding market is up 2-2.5x and yet large buildings have not increased rents, at all
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22:53 mats well a lot of people have been fleeing cities
22:55 mats sucks to be in the city center, where there's not a lot of single family housing
22:56 mats but i don't know what the market is like now
22:57 mats early on i heard anecdotes of great deals, like first month free in sf and south bay
22:58 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062122 << warehousing plebes is a biz cost for the reich. so from that pov cheaper to pack'em like battery chickens. we had this in old sovok, 'уплотнение' ('densification') campaign of '20s
22:58 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 16:50:13 gregory5: asciilifeform: so the Establishment is trying to pressure people to live in apartments instead of single-family houses?
22:59 mats in more rf stuff, https://github.com/rfquack/RFQuack
22:59 mats used for this paper, https://maggi.cc/publication/maggi_industrialradios_2019/maggi_industrialradios_2019.pdf 'A Security Evaluation of Industrial Radio Remote Controllers'
23:00 asciilifeform mats: there's a great many of these. for sumreason very fashionable.
23:01 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062134 << iirc they also get massive tax writeoffs for vacant units (which often exceed the rent they could realistically ask for)
23:01 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 18:38:40 billymg: mats: these explain why the buildings can't reduce rents, but what i was describing is a situation where the entire surrounding market is up 2-2.5x and yet large buildings have not increased rents, at all
23:06 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062123 << from the folx who get their dough directly from the printing press.
23:06 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 16:51:20 gregory5: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-27#1062112 << where is that extra demand for single-family houses coming from, though?
23:06 asciilifeform ( and loox like billmg already said )
23:06 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-27 17:00:20 billymg: gregory5: my guess would be that the increased rents in the mom'n'pop owned units is a result of the same forces driving up the sales prices, e.g. mostly currency debasement
23:08 asciilifeform re: 'уплотнение' -- see also m.bulgakov's 'dog's heart' :
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23:10 asciilifeform 'We, the house management,' said Shvonder with hatred, 'have come to see you as a result of a general meeting of the tenants of this block, who are charged with the problem of increasing the occupancy of this house . . .'
23:10 asciilifeform 'What d'you mean - charged?' cried Philip Philipovich. 'Please try and express yourself more clearly.'
23:10 asciilifeform 'All right, I understand! Do you realise that under the regulation of August 12th this year my apartment is exempt from any increase in occupancy?'
23:10 asciilifeform 'We know that,' replied Shvonder, 'but when the general meeting had examined this question it came to the conclusion that taken all round you are occupying too much space. Far too much. You are living, alone, in seven rooms.'
23:10 asciilifeform 'I live and work in seven rooms,' replied Philip Philipovich, 'and I could do with eight. I need a room for a library.'
23:10 asciilifeform The four were struck dumb.
23:11 asciilifeform 'Eight! Ha, ha!' said the hatless fair youth. 'That's rich, that is!'
23:11 asciilifeform 'It's indescribable!' exclaimed the youth who had turned out to be a woman.
23:11 asciilifeform 'I have a waiting-room, which you will notice also has to serve as my library, a dining-room, and my study - that makes three. Consulting-room - four, operating theatre -five. My bedroom - six, and the servant's room makes seven. It's not really enough. But that's not the point. My apartment is exempt, and our conversation is therefore at an end. May I go and have supper?'
23:11 asciilifeform 'Excuse me,' said the fourth, who looked like a fat beetle.
23:11 asciilifeform 'Excuse me,' Shvonder interrupted him, 'but it was just because of your dining-room and your consulting-room that we came to see you. The general meeting requests you, as a matter of labour discipline, to give up your dining-room voluntarily. No one in Moscow has a dining-room.'
23:11 asciilifeform 'Not even Isadora Duncan,' squeaked the woman. Something happened to Philip Philipovich which made his face turn gently purple. He said nothing, waiting to hear what came next.
23:11 asciilifeform 'And give up your consulting-room too,' Shvonder went on. ' You can easily combine your consulting-room with your study.'
23:11 asciilifeform 'Mm'h,' said Philip Philipovich in a strange voice. 'And where am I supposed to eat?'
23:11 asciilifeform 'In the bedroom,' answered the four in chorus.
23:11 asciilifeform Philip Philipovich's purple complexion took on a faintly grey tinge.
23:11 asciilifeform 'So I can eat in the bedroom,' he said in a slightly muffled voice, 'read in the consulting-room, dress in the hall, operate in the maid's room and examine patients in the dining-room. I expect that is what Isadora Duncan does. Perhaps she eats in her study and dissects rabbits in the bathroom. Perhaps. But I'm not Isadora Duncan. . . !' he turned yellow. 'I shall eat in the diningroom and operate in the operating thea
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23:11 asciilifeform tre! Tell that to the general meeting, and meanwhile kindly go and mind your own business and allow me to have my supper in the place where all normal people eat. I mean in the dining-room - not in the hall and not in the nursery.'
23:11 asciilifeform 'In that case, professor, in view of your obstinate refusal,' said the furious Shvonder, 'we shall
23:11 asciilifeform lodge a complaint about you with higher authority.'
23:12 asciilifeform (whole warez here.)
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