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00:00 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-10#1061025 << afaik most recently spotted officering the usg shell co which 'purchased' fleanode.
00:00 dulapbot Logged on 2021-10-10 19:55:31 vex: how does he earn a crust now? I lost interest, having never engaged with the biz
00:00 dulapbot Logged on 2021-06-29 12:18:05 puman: fucking Karpeles again? "One reason for staffers' virulent disapproval is Shells CTO Mark Karpelès" https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/
00:01 asciilifeform (remember fleanode??)
00:01 asciilifeform !q uptime
00:01 dulapbot asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 116d 20h 58m
00:01 vex I do
00:02 asciilifeform karpeles -- semiliterate patsy. presided over usg theft of coinz specifically for watering the waterfall.
00:02 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-16 22:25:57 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052685 << >> http://dulap.xyz/pub/mirrors/qntra.net/2018/03/mtgox-coins-getting-dumped-in-waterfall/
00:02 vex Yeah I can't even fathom the fuckery
00:04 asciilifeform vex: there was a rather long (and i fully expect -- continuing) series of these projects. all essentially identical. karpeles simply best known.
00:05 asciilifeform idjit runs a gox or whatever 'bitcoin biz'; collects buncha coinz; eventually assigned a handler, who offers him 'offer he can't refuse', choice b/w 1e3y of noriega or walk with x% of the 'oopsed' piggy
00:06 vex criminal elements in tokyo wouldv'e found him 1st
00:07 asciilifeform vex: asciilifeform aint a jp expert, but iirc their mob is well-integrated into the Official reich structure, and prolly compliant
00:07 vex most certainly
00:07 asciilifeform hence not obstacle.
00:20 vex heya punkman, has the shaking dies down?
00:23 punkman didn't feel any big one last week, but it's still going
00:23 asciilifeform in fleanode lulz. apparently claims to still operate, nao with 'Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire' and 'Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication'. didjaknow.
00:23 vex shit
00:24 punkman apparently the area directly above sank 15cm
00:24 punkman 0.8g vertical acceleration fucked them up
00:25 vex we all live on a very fragile crust above a swirling ball of molten iron with a magnetic field that lets us live in the violent void
00:26 punkman bunch of greek seismologists into predicting earthquakes working with japanese people too
00:28 punkman Lebanon banks doing a "Sorry for your loss" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCdYapPCyI
00:31 punkman https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-58861477 "The power grid shut down yesterday and officials said it was unlikely to restart for several days."
00:32 asciilifeform usg still stirring the 'arab spring' pot, eh
00:32 punkman doesn't seem like the same thing
00:38 asciilifeform punkman: how not ?
00:38 * asciilifeform expects there'll be usg 'peace keepers' there within the yr
00:38 vex beiruit?
00:39 punkman no dictator to get rid of, they already have gays, etc
00:41 vex good old fashioned bank run, no need to send peace keepers
00:41 asciilifeform if that particular arab clusterfuck aint anglo-directed, will be i suppose 1st such one in 100y+
00:42 vex that warehouse of ferts certainly when whoomph
00:42 punkman maybe they needed new place after losing Syria? dunno
00:42 vex big bada boom
00:42 punkman the mega blast in Beirut last year sure was weird
00:43 punkman Turkey also having currency problems
00:44 asciilifeform could even be 2nd-order side effect of usd's present 'currency problem'
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01:22 thimbronion Can anyone point me to the source for vdiff?
01:23 thimbronion Gotta figure out why I can't instruct it to ignore files/directories
~ 15 minutes ~
01:38 scoopbot New post on Thimbron: Alcuin 9994
~ 11 hours 3 minutes ~
12:42 PeterL thimbronion: could you copy everything to a working directory, delete the stuff you don't want in the vdiff, and then run vdiff?
~ 1 hours 24 minutes ~
14:07 shinohai One *can* also add flag to the old phf/sh vdiff `--exclude-from=<FILE>` and put all the locations and files you don't want in that.
~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~
15:17 thimbronion PeterL: I could but I would like to make sure it's impossible to exclude first.
15:18 PeterL What version are you using?
15:24 thimbronion PeterL: Looks like I got it here: http://ossasepia.com/vpatches/starter_v.zip
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16:06 pete_rizzo_ Question for you all: Are any of you still running/maintaining this software? http://thebitcoin.foundation/
16:17 dpb pete_rizzo_, check out http://atruechurch.info/ and don't go to hell like the rest of the world!
16:24 shinohai pete_rizzo_: Many here still run it, watchglass bot is present in chan that shows nodes if you run `!w poll`
16:25 pete_rizzo_ shinohai The claim by Bitcoin Core seems to be that this software is 'less secure.' Do you experience any usability issues versus just using bitcoin core?
16:27 shinohai I personally haven't experienced any usability issues with it. afaik Mike Hearn the loudest of the "omg trb less secure" folks.
16:34 pete_rizzo_ and you don't have issues interacting with other wallets or sending and receiving bitcoin? it just works exactly the same even though you don't recognize some of the soft fork rules
16:38 shinohai Yep works fine, I have 0 issues because 99% of time I don't need segwit/lightning/whatever .... if I do I can use an app and sweep funds back to a legacy address I control.
16:38 shinohai Never had trb not work in that regard.
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17:29 pete_rizzo_ you still have to download the extra data from segwit blocks though?
17:36 punkman pete_rizzo_: from trb perspective, segwit transactions are "anyone can spend" and have no signatures
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18:08 signpost what's the rationale for "less secure"?
18:10 signpost I assume this refers to the fact that if the whole network ran trb, "segwit" funds could be moved by anyone. I don't see why I should give a fuck about that; they lost the block-size wars and are pleading otherwise.
18:10 signpost they also *vastly* weakened the security of the chain by allowing this in the first place.
18:12 signpost note that every such innovation piles up more coin behind these "anyone-can-spend" transactions.
18:13 signpost suppose you were a government that wanted to weaken bitcoin over time. would you attack the cryptography or the part governed solely by miner meat-consensus first?
18:16 signpost dpb: hail satan.
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19:40 BingoBoingo pete_rizzo: No issues with segwit nor downloads of segwit data. trb just works. Send/Receive works perfectly with trb. As long as the segwit address starts with 3 like a normal pay to script hash address sending to segwit is fine. Receiving from segwit is also fine.
19:43 BingoBoingo pete_rizzo: If anything running trb is less demanding and less insecure than running "Core", it is the safest option for maximum backwards compatibility. Lowest chance of ending up on the wrong side of an accidental soft fork caused by changes to code that touch consensus rules.
~ 16 minutes ~
19:59 asciilifeform pete_rizzo_: yes trb is maintained. asciilifeform is presently the maintainer. (and i use it for 100% of bitcoin-related work, and intend to continue using, haven't touched a heathen bitcoin client in many years and don't intend to start.)
20:00 asciilifeform all trb bug reports are to be addressed to asciilifeform. and posted right here.
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