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asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-10-10#1061025 << afaik most recently spotted officering the usg shell co which 'purchased' fleanode. |
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dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-10-10 19:55:31 vex: how does he earn a crust now? I lost interest, having never engaged with the biz |
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dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-06-29 12:18:05 puman: fucking Karpeles again? "One reason for staffers' virulent disapproval is Shells CTO Mark Karpelès" https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/ |
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asciilifeform |
(remember fleanode??) |
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asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
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dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 116d 20h 58m |
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vex |
I do |
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asciilifeform |
karpeles -- semiliterate patsy. presided over usg theft of coinz specifically for watering the waterfall. |
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dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 22:25:57 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052685 << >> http://dulap.xyz/pub/mirrors/qntra.net/2018/03/mtgox-coins-getting-dumped-in-waterfall/ |
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vex |
Yeah I can't even fathom the fuckery |
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asciilifeform |
vex: there was a rather long (and i fully expect -- continuing) series of these projects. all essentially identical. karpeles simply best known. |
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asciilifeform |
idjit runs a gox or whatever 'bitcoin biz'; collects buncha coinz; eventually assigned a handler, who offers him 'offer he can't refuse', choice b/w 1e3y of noriega or walk with x% of the 'oopsed' piggy |
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vex |
criminal elements in tokyo wouldv'e found him 1st |
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asciilifeform |
vex: asciilifeform aint a jp expert, but iirc their mob is well-integrated into the Official reich structure, and prolly compliant |
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vex |
most certainly |
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asciilifeform |
hence not obstacle. |
00:20 |
vex |
heya punkman, has the shaking dies down? |
00:23 |
punkman |
didn't feel any big one last week, but it's still going |
00:23 |
asciilifeform |
in fleanode lulz. apparently claims to still operate, nao with 'Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire' and 'Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication'. didjaknow. |
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vex |
shit |
00:24 |
punkman |
apparently the area directly above sank 15cm |
00:24 |
punkman |
0.8g vertical acceleration fucked them up |
00:25 |
vex |
we all live on a very fragile crust above a swirling ball of molten iron with a magnetic field that lets us live in the violent void |
00:26 |
punkman |
bunch of greek seismologists into predicting earthquakes working with japanese people too |
00:28 |
punkman |
Lebanon banks doing a "Sorry for your loss" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCdYapPCyI |
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punkman |
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-58861477 "The power grid shut down yesterday and officials said it was unlikely to restart for several days." |
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asciilifeform |
usg still stirring the 'arab spring' pot, eh |
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punkman |
doesn't seem like the same thing |
00:38 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: how not ? |
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asciilifeform expects there'll be usg 'peace keepers' there within the yr |
00:38 |
vex |
beiruit? |
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punkman |
no dictator to get rid of, they already have gays, etc |
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vex |
good old fashioned bank run, no need to send peace keepers |
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asciilifeform |
if that particular arab clusterfuck aint anglo-directed, will be i suppose 1st such one in 100y+ |
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vex |
that warehouse of ferts certainly when whoomph |
00:42 |
punkman |
maybe they needed new place after losing Syria? dunno |
00:42 |
vex |
big bada boom |
00:42 |
punkman |
the mega blast in Beirut last year sure was weird |
00:43 |
punkman |
Turkey also having currency problems |
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asciilifeform |
could even be 2nd-order side effect of usd's present 'currency problem' |
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01:22 |
thimbronion |
Can anyone point me to the source for vdiff? |
01:23 |
thimbronion |
Gotta figure out why I can't instruct it to ignore files/directories |
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01:38 |
scoopbot |
New post on Thimbron: Alcuin 9994 |
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12:42 |
PeterL |
thimbronion: could you copy everything to a working directory, delete the stuff you don't want in the vdiff, and then run vdiff? |
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14:07 |
shinohai |
One *can* also add flag to the old phf/sh vdiff `--exclude-from=<FILE>` and put all the locations and files you don't want in that. |
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15:17 |
thimbronion |
PeterL: I could but I would like to make sure it's impossible to exclude first. |
15:18 |
PeterL |
What version are you using? |
15:24 |
thimbronion |
PeterL: Looks like I got it here: http://ossasepia.com/vpatches/starter_v.zip |
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16:06 |
pete_rizzo_ |
Question for you all: Are any of you still running/maintaining this software? http://thebitcoin.foundation/ |
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dpb |
pete_rizzo_, check out http://atruechurch.info/ and don't go to hell like the rest of the world! |
16:24 |
shinohai |
pete_rizzo_: Many here still run it, watchglass bot is present in chan that shows nodes if you run `!w poll` |
16:25 |
pete_rizzo_ |
shinohai The claim by Bitcoin Core seems to be that this software is 'less secure.' Do you experience any usability issues versus just using bitcoin core? |
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shinohai |
I personally haven't experienced any usability issues with it. afaik Mike Hearn the loudest of the "omg trb less secure" folks. |
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pete_rizzo_ |
and you don't have issues interacting with other wallets or sending and receiving bitcoin? it just works exactly the same even though you don't recognize some of the soft fork rules |
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shinohai |
Yep works fine, I have 0 issues because 99% of time I don't need segwit/lightning/whatever .... if I do I can use an app and sweep funds back to a legacy address I control. |
16:38 |
shinohai |
Never had trb not work in that regard. |
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17:29 |
pete_rizzo_ |
you still have to download the extra data from segwit blocks though? |
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17:36 |
punkman |
pete_rizzo_: from trb perspective, segwit transactions are "anyone can spend" and have no signatures |
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18:08 |
signpost |
what's the rationale for "less secure"? |
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18:10 |
signpost |
I assume this refers to the fact that if the whole network ran trb, "segwit" funds could be moved by anyone. I don't see why I should give a fuck about that; they lost the block-size wars and are pleading otherwise. |
18:10 |
signpost |
they also *vastly* weakened the security of the chain by allowing this in the first place. |
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18:12 |
signpost |
note that every such innovation piles up more coin behind these "anyone-can-spend" transactions. |
18:13 |
signpost |
suppose you were a government that wanted to weaken bitcoin over time. would you attack the cryptography or the part governed solely by miner meat-consensus first? |
18:16 |
signpost |
dpb: hail satan. |
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19:40 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_rizzo: No issues with segwit nor downloads of segwit data. trb just works. Send/Receive works perfectly with trb. As long as the segwit address starts with 3 like a normal pay to script hash address sending to segwit is fine. Receiving from segwit is also fine. |
19:43 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_rizzo: If anything running trb is less demanding and less insecure than running "Core", it is the safest option for maximum backwards compatibility. Lowest chance of ending up on the wrong side of an accidental soft fork caused by changes to code that touch consensus rules. |
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19:59 |
asciilifeform |
pete_rizzo_: yes trb is maintained. asciilifeform is presently the maintainer. (and i use it for 100% of bitcoin-related work, and intend to continue using, haven't touched a heathen bitcoin client in many years and don't intend to start.) |
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asciilifeform |
all trb bug reports are to be addressed to asciilifeform. and posted right here. |