| 02:46 |
whaack |
cgra: http://ztkfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/cgra.txt here you go |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
| 03:18 |
whaack |
cgra: you can use this script http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=_LIA to get the rest of the blocks |
| 03:18 |
whaack |
!e uptime |
| 03:18 |
trbexplorer |
whaack: time since my last reconnect : 51d 9h 18m |
| 03:18 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: nb! |
| 03:19 |
whaack |
cgra: of course replace the numver of the last block with the last block as per the view-height command |
| 03:19 |
whaack |
!e view-height |
| 03:19 |
trbexplorer |
whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-block, view-merkle-root, view-txn, height, push, view-raw-txn, verify-block, view-raw-block, utxos, balance |
| 03:19 |
whaack |
!e height |
| 03:19 |
trbexplorer |
699706 |
| 03:25 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
| 03:25 |
dulapbot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 85d 0h 23m |
| 03:28 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: nifty |
| 03:28 |
* |
asciilifeform will hold off on this then, loox like whaack nailed it already |
| 03:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-08 10:46:05 asciilifeform: cgra: i'ma make it, then, but can't guarantee it'll be done today |
| 03:28 |
asciilifeform |
ty whaack ! |
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~ 1 hours 17 minutes ~ |
| 04:46 |
cgra |
whaack: got it, thanks! |
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~ 2 hours 42 minutes ~ |
| 07:28 |
jonsykkel |
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2071#comment-18560 << had the same question, since X'Length = Y'Length was alredy done, the last condition is checking XY_Lo'Length against a number added to itself then divided by 2 |
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~ 2 hours 40 minutes ~ |
| 10:08 |
jonsykkel |
+ are there solutions for the ch5 homevork problems anywher? prety sure my "optimizations" are wrong. curious about intended ones |
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~ 4 hours 12 minutes ~ |
| 14:21 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: the solution to that one is the subj of ch. 7. |
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| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: thinking about it, i had misread the orig. comment by PeterL, didn't realize that he was speaking strictly of the last line ( XY_Lo'Length = ((X'Length + Y'Length) / 2)); ) when suggested to replace it. you're both right, the division there is superfluous. |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: the egyptian mul is of course not in current ffa, but the precondition is, i'ma fix it in the next ch. (when i get a chance... the coad's been written for more than a year, but not the text..) |
| 14:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-30 16:23:38 asciilifeform: signpost: 'time problem' in fact in past yr got ~substantially worse~ for asciilifeform |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 14:49 |
asciilifeform |
!!key jonsykkel |
| 14:49 |
deedbot |
Not registered. |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: now that deedbot is back, register a pubkey with it. that way i can rate you; you can offer folx vpatches when yer ready; participate in other civilized activities later |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
!!help |
| 14:50 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel see ^ instructions. |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
!!key cgra |
| 14:50 |
deedbot |
http://wot.deedbot.org/C141C7B522C7AAC07171331B405683EA46572260.asc |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
!!rated cgra |
| 14:50 |
deedbot |
asciilifeform rated cgra 3 at 2020/11/27 11:35:21 << careful, attentive student of FFA & TRB. inquire in #asciilifeform. |
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~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 15:15 |
jonsykkel |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-09-09#1057075 << ah, was looking for it in ch6. shud have realized from the chapter name |
| 15:15 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-09 10:21:28 asciilifeform: jonsykkel: the solution to that one is the subj of ch. 7. |
| 15:19 |
jonsykkel |
"coad's been written for more than a year, but not the text.." << classic |
| 15:21 |
jonsykkel |
ill do key stuff, just i gotta make new ones first |
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~ 39 minutes ~ |
| 16:00 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: writing a proggy is much easier than to prove that it worx, and then to write a readable exposition of the proof. ( which is why most folx stop after 'write proggy'... ) |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 16:26 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: how complete was the FFA picture in your head, before published ch1? |
| 16:28 |
jonsykkel |
asciilifeform: no doubt |
| 16:28 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: or even, how complete per se? |
| 16:31 |
dpb |
jonsykkel, check out http://atruechurch.info/ and don't go to hell like the rest of the world! |
| 16:33 |
jonsykkel |
looks great, will take a look |
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~ 27 minutes ~ |
| 17:01 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: had (mostly correct) coad & proofs through ch12 -- some of it pasted in #t log -- before ch1 'properly' published |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
| 17:33 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: how complete per se, i.e. right nao? -- ch21c ( the coad , for extended-euclidean ) is done ; and also extensive revision of the peh interpreter (in particular, properly constant-time i/o of FZ) |
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| 17:33 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: still remaining after this, will be hashing; and 'breath of life' (iirc discussed in old #t, the feature for placing tape execution params in the head of the tape per se) |
| 17:34 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: after this, examples of usage (generation of rsa keys; cramer-shoup; various practical examples) |
| 17:34 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: also would like to have a replacement for 'litmus' (gpg compatibility program, for use with e.g. vtron) that doesn't rely on bash kludge. |
| 17:35 |
asciilifeform |
possibly other missing things (e.g. at one time asciilifeform promised to include a proof that M-R works; but then put this off, and referred folx to schoolbooks) |
| 17:41 |
asciilifeform |
asciilifeform has two uses for ffa -- general-purpose sign/verify suitable for use w/ generalized vtron ; and for the ecdsa numerics in ada trb replacement. |
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| 17:41 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-03-19 12:32:20 asciilifeform: why the hell is a typical public www bound to 1 box? specifically, why could not exist as an auto-mirrorable directory of signed material ? |
| 17:41 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-29 21:07:32 asciilifeform: jonsykkel: see linked thrd for basic outline of algo. idea is, if you have a www ('vvv' ??) of signed material, will then have as many mirrors as you have readers. and they'll all have up-to-date, authentic content of yours, trivially verifiably. nomoar ddos, expensive hostings, warez takedowns, etc |
| 17:41 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db . |
| 17:41 |
asciilifeform |
other people -- may have yet other uses. |
| 17:41 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: the last time i spent time following your ffa curriculum, i felt a need to go a full cycle before returning to ch1, for a review, and until then gaining a proper grasp. now figured must've been similar for a writer, too... fits-in-head after all |
| 17:42 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: indeed was; in fact i deliberately started w/ simple (but slow) 'egyptian' algos |
| 17:42 |
asciilifeform |
and then went back, replaced one by one with 'adult'. and reproduced this path for the reader. |
| 17:42 |
asciilifeform |
( why did this? asciilifeform wanted to see whether and if so how much optimization is ~actually~ required for reasonable performance on pc on real-life key sizes ) |
| 17:44 |
asciilifeform |
sooo, for instance, found that the most common heathen 'optimization' -- permitting variably-sized bignums and early termination in iterations -- aint needed at all ! |
| 17:45 |
asciilifeform |
( on account of branch prediction mechanics in modern irons, ffa in fact faster than koch's bignum, for the latter's 'worst-cases' ) |
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~ 1 hours 21 minutes ~ |
| 19:06 |
signpost |
jonsykkel: gimme a shout if registering gives you any issues. |
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~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 19:26 |
asciilifeform |
wb signpost ! |
| 19:26 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: didja get a chance to read asciilifeform's backbreaker ? ( current draft here, for ref. ) |
| 19:26 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-09-06 00:50:19 signpost: hail satan. can't wait to read this over coffee tomorrow asciilifeform! |
| 19:31 |
asciilifeform |
( and further discussion re same ) |
| 19:33 |
* |
asciilifeform must bbl |
| 19:42 |
jonsykkel |
will do signpost, ty |
| 19:42 |
jonsykkel |
speaking of keys, whats the #a consensus on least retarded gnupg version? |
| 19:43 |
jonsykkel |
saw some older ones had this bug affecting key generation |
| 19:44 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: you're probably thinking of this one |
| 19:45 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: if you're making a 4096b or bigger, and using 1.4.x ( e.g. asciilifeform -- 1.4.10) -- will probably want the patch. |
| 19:45 |
asciilifeform |
(koch's key gen is still imho rather shoddy even with fix for this bug tho.) |
| 19:46 |
asciilifeform |
for this & related reasons, asciilifeform intends to retire his gpg key (i.e. will promise not to emit new sigs w/ it) after completion of ffa/peh and signing his brand-new peh key w/ the old gpg pub. |
| 19:47 |
* |
asciilifeform genuinely bbl |
| 19:49 |
jonsykkel |
thats the one |
| 19:52 |
jonsykkel |
i see, guess ill make sure itis patched at least |
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~ 2 hours 42 minutes ~ |
| 22:35 |
signpost |
asciilifeform: haven't fully digested yet; will try to respond sometime saturday |
| 22:36 |
signpost |
definitely on my stack tho |
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~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: a++. |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: there's no reason to hurry. |