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00:56 asciilifeform thimbronion: supported if nick is in direct peer set
00:57 * asciilifeform was hoping to get the spec posted... then vacation as usual turned into 'workation'
~ 2 hours 43 minutes ~
03:40 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-15#1052592 I've been told similarly before, so it may be true, signpost.
03:40 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-15 14:40:25 signpost: upstack, verisimilitude, there's this consistent tone of infantile narcissism with you. I'm curious if you're aware of it.
03:41 verisimilitude One of my future articles will concern removing hash checksums from something, and perhaps making it better. Had I accepted them, this wouldn't have happened. I think we can agree unnecessarily using them is bad.
03:42 scoopbot New post on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: A Review of ``The Last Unicorn'' by Peter Beagle
03:42 verisimilitude I'd like to claim this channel is but chitchat, but that would be claiming ``Signpost doesn't know the real me, only how I act around him.''.
03:43 verisimilitude Hash checksums can be considered similar to ``AI'', in that they work but largely without good explanations as to why, and this is undesirable, even if they do work perfectly.
03:44 verisimilitude Lastly, it amuses me asciilifeform didn't argue much, because that would be akin to writing ``Hashes are voodoo, but where would we be without voodoo?''.
03:45 verisimilitude Feel free to offer suggestions on how I can improve my behaviour, signpost.
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16:49 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-15#1052627 << >> see also.
16:49 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-15 23:40:21 verisimilitude: Lastly, it amuses me asciilifeform didn't argue much, because that would be akin to writing ``Hashes are voodoo, but where would we be without voodoo?''.
16:49 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-08-08 asciilifeform: the unfortunate bit is that 'hash research' is presently not even yet at alchemy level, and stuck somewhere between haruspicy and astrology.
16:51 asciilifeform !w poll
16:51 watchglass Polling 17 nodes...
16:51 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
16:51 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
16:51 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.029s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
16:51 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect!
16:51 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.110s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084 (Operator: asciilifeform)
16:51 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.159s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.234s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084 (Operator: asciilifeform)
16:51 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.265s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.655s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696084
16:51 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.756s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=696084 (Operator: whaack)
16:52 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
16:53 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
16:54 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
16:54 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $46417.15
16:57 * asciilifeform looks at chart at randomly-picked gox, finds interesting how blatantly obvious is the work of the 'exch rate fire extinguisher'
16:57 dulapbot (alethepedia) 2020-10-11 asciilifeform: erry time usd-btc exch rate becomes 'dangerously high' (~10k seems to be the tripwire, ever since 'system' established) usg dumps (or presses on a compliant asset to dump) a truckload of coin. does not even have to be cosmic qty of coin; simply enuff to trigger margin calls and set the idjit dominoes falling
~ 5 hours 25 minutes ~
22:23 billymg anyone in here have any spectulation on the afghanistan situation? an actual USG defeat or just another CIA op?
22:24 billymg speculation*
22:29 mats its been a slow moving defeat for the entire time usg has been there
22:33 mats the taliban now has a real shot at governing the entire country without the northern alliance to resist them, and if they can maintain peace, the chinese will include circuits through afghanistan in the belt and road initiative
22:35 billymg in that case sounds rather encouraging for the patriots in idaho and surrounding terrain
22:35 mats i don't know what that means
22:35 billymg the people in red states who hate the feds and want to defend themselves with their rifles
22:37 mats what does that have to do with afg
22:39 billymg demonstrates that an indigenous people can defend themselves against a much more technically advanced and well funded adversary
22:41 mats that's really not the whole story
22:42 mats the reason why the soviets ultimately left afg is because the americans collaborated with pak isi to support and direct the afghan taliban
22:44 mats this time around, the americans let the taliban keep the narcostate infrastructure they'd helped them build to fight the soviets, with all the attendant revenues, and the americans never got the pak state on side with rebuilding afghanistan
22:44 mats the afghan taliban story of scrappy underdog is a good one, but it didn't happen under their own scrappiness
22:45 mats or the kurds would have their own state by now
22:47 billymg that's what i meant by my original question, whether this was an actual defeat or just some shuffling to put in place a different, but still friendly, regime
22:54 billymg if usg had to compromise and didn't get exactly what they wanted ("rebuilding" afghanistan with the cooperation of pakistan, if i'm understanding correctly) then i would consider that a loss for them
22:54 mats its not clear whether there was ever a plan beyond routing the taliban and AQ
22:55 billymg AQ
22:55 billymg ?
22:55 mats al qaeda
22:55 billymg ah
22:56 mats the generous view is that us involvement in afg was for some misguided, overpriced strategic depth, to stymie pakistan and china
23:03 bingoboingo One cynical view: cheap chinese fentanyl broke the CIA/etc's ROI in afghanistan
23:08 billymg hey bingoboingo, how's it going?
23:08 bingoboingo It's going
23:09 billymg in that case sounds like the area just ran out of usefulness, in which case hard to chalk it up as a loss
23:10 mats arguably one of the reasons why the taliban fell over so quickly in 01 was due to a prohibition on growing poppy the previous year
23:10 billymg bingoboingo: better than not going i suppose
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