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01:56 asciilifeform !q uptime
01:56 dulapbot asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 59d 22h 50m
~ 13 hours 59 minutes ~
15:55 asciilifeform !w poll
15:55 watchglass Polling 17 nodes...
15:55 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
15:55 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
15:55 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
15:55 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695910
15:55 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:55 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910
15:55 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:55 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.149s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910
15:56 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695910 (Operator: whaack)
15:56 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.220s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910
15:56 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.316s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910
15:56 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.336s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910
15:56 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.587s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=695910
15:56 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.279s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=695910
15:56 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
15:56 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
15:57 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
15:57 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $46079.94
15:57 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
~ 2 hours 45 minutes ~
18:43 signpost http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-13#1052497 << the idea that perfect foundations are accessible to mortals is nonsense.
18:43 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-13 00:11:55 verisimilitude: Once perfect foundations are abandoned, it's a matter of risk.
18:44 signpost http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-13#1052532 << never investigated, nor am I yet proficient with ada
18:44 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-13 14:56:54 asciilifeform: unless e.g. signpost happens to remember
18:44 signpost upstack, verisimilitude, there's this consistent tone of infantile narcissism with you. I'm curious if you're aware of it.
18:48 signpost aside the plain fact that it's true, there may be no unbreakable hash, there are *powerful* incentives on the table to break several hashes and encryption schemes.
18:49 signpost that it hasn't happened yet is not proof it will never happen, certainly.
18:50 signpost yet, where I smell narcissism with you is the absolutism by which everything you deem not "perfect" beneath you, which conveniently absolves you of engaging with the world as it is, necessitating tradeoffs.
18:50 signpost factually, you do make the same tradeoffs in kind which you're condemning here.
18:50 signpost tldr: yawn.
~ 43 minutes ~
19:34 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-15#1052593 << this imho very good point. bitcoinism is very thorough 'acid test' for sha2. (tho with somewhat obvious caveats)
19:34 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-15 14:44:11 signpost: aside the plain fact that it's true, there may be no unbreakable hash, there are *powerful* incentives on the table to break several hashes and encryption schemes.
19:34 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-10-20 asciilifeform: trinque: see thread. mining is not provably costing all of the participants anything.
19:34 dulapbot (trilema) 2016-10-20 asciilifeform: 'there are no alchemists because an alchemist could not POSSIBLY keep it in his pants' is no argument.
19:36 signpost yeah, can't prove a negative, though can reason about likelihood.
19:37 * asciilifeform would like a hash algo that's at least based on a number-theoretical conjecture (a la pubkey systems) rather than shell games. but none afaik ever discovered to date
19:38 asciilifeform asciilifeform's discussions of this q w/ mp resulted in the latter taking a massive shit onto the chalkboard, so to speak, and calling it 'a solution'
~ 27 minutes ~
20:06 signpost can't say I ever lifted the "fabulous hash function" into my head.
20:07 asciilifeform signpost: it was nonsense, of the 'dump errything on the shelf into the cauldron, and stir' witch's grimoire variety
20:08 * asciilifeform to his undying shame engaged with the bullshit as if it were a sensible artifact proposed by a sensible person
20:09 signpost eh, when one has a leader, one uses what powers he has to rationalize the output of same. imho the risk of this *increases* among the very smart.
20:09 * signpost did also.
20:10 asciilifeform ( bonus, mp intended it to be deliberately slow hash, rather like 'argon' and similar modern-day password-derivation widgets. then asciilifeform found order-of-magnitude speedup for the bullshit and he lost interest entirely )
20:10 dulapbot (trilema) 2017-08-15 asciilifeform: by not actually doing the flip-whole-thing bit
20:10 signpost heh, the pain fetish was foundational there, beneath it all.
20:11 signpost "this no longer produces enough pointless pain." (discards)
20:11 asciilifeform aaha.
20:11 * asciilifeform must bbl
20:12 signpost cheers asciilifeform
20:12 * signpost having a cognac and enjoying the rain.
~ 3 hours 5 minutes ~
23:17 thimbronion How does asciilifeform envision privmsg commands directed at nicks to work? Supported? Ignored?
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