02:01 |
bingoboingo |
Sorry, my bad. I was consolidating servers and... overlooked the DNS |
02:04 |
bingoboingo |
Names resolve, sorry PeterL |
02:18 |
asciilifeform |
wb bingoboingo |
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02:50 |
thimbronion |
Successfully tested gossip style message relaying between three nodes. More testing to do wrt dedup detection, but should be able to publish the changes soon. |
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04:43 |
punkman |
friendly web innovations https://css-tricks.com/choice-words-about-the-upcoming-deprecation-of-javascript-dialogs/ |
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13:40 |
punkman |
"$335M stolen from the Poly Network side-chain. They’re asking nicely for the hackers to return the funds, before they get really angry." |
13:41 |
punkman |
https://twitter.com/PolyNetwork2/status/1425073990012268556 "We call on miners of affected blockchain and crypto exchanges to blacklist tokens coming from the above addresses" |
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14:04 |
shinohai |
lolocopter |
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14:21 |
punkman |
actually might be over $600m. had 1k "wrapped" btc too |
14:23 |
shinohai |
Today is a good day, I *do* love the smell of DeFi rekt in the morning. |
14:34 |
punkman |
"@Tether_to |
14:34 |
punkman |
just froze ~33M $USDt on 0xC8a65Fadf0e0dDAf421F28FEAb69Bf6E2E589963 as part of the #PolyNetwork hack" |
14:35 |
punkman |
Binance "We are aware of the http://poly.network exploit that occurred today. While no one controls BSC (or ETH), we are coordinating with all our security partners to proactively help. There are no guarantees. We will do as much as we can." |
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15:03 |
asciilifeform |
punkman et al : is there any evidence against the hypothesis that such shitcoin 'heists' are perpetrated by the shitcoin author himself ? |
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15:04 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. the creator of whatever supposed-bug enables the 'ohnoez $xxx mil is gone' (and notice how always reported as an imaginary usd loss, RIAA-style!) |
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15:19 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: what's the 'RIAA style' refer to? |
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15:37 |
mats |
itd be a serious gamble that some other person doesnt audit the contract and exploit the vuln first |
15:49 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: recall, where they calculated 'losses' by multiplying '# of warez downloads' by what the disk cost |
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16:01 |
signpost |
seems a stretch that *nobody* is running such scams. |
16:01 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: obviously no evidence. how does anyone ever prove they didn't put in catastrophic bug in whatever software |
16:01 |
signpost |
but I'd expect mostly incompetence. |
16:03 |
punkman |
there's always someone throwing out the accusation, but I think most tards like to think "why would you sink own company, you'd make more than heist if you keep it going" |
16:03 |
punkman |
ties well into "proof of stake" ethertardation |
16:07 |
punkman |
lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8cN6PdUYAY_eV_?format=jpg&name=900x900 |
16:11 |
billymg |
punkman: so i see they've now 100% abandoned their "code is law" larping from 2017 |
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16:13 |
whaack |
billymg: gm, i almost have the python client done for trbexplorer |
16:14 |
whaack |
i just need to add error handling and review the spec to make sure there's nothing too stupid before i lock into the api |
16:16 |
punkman |
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x552bc0322d78c5648c5efa21d2daa2d0f14901ad4b15531f1ab5bbe5674de34f |
16:16 |
punkman |
"IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BILLION HACK IF I HAD MOVED REMAINING SHITCOINS! DID I JUST SAVE THE PROJECT? |
16:16 |
billymg |
whaack: awesome, def looking forward to trying it out |
16:16 |
punkman |
NOT SO INTERESTED IN MONEY, NOW CONSIDERING RETURNING SOME TOKENS OR JUST LEAVING THEM HERE" |
16:17 |
punkman |
guy asking for help "WONDER WHY TORNADO? WILL MINER STOP ME? TEACH ME PLZ!" |
16:18 |
punkman |
ton of people sending him tx with begging msg |
16:19 |
shinohai |
lol recall when MP published the "DAO hack" piece some showed up in comments with "plz Sir, mi familia!" |
16:21 |
whaack |
punkman: are those quotes from the 'hacker', if so where did you see them? |
16:25 |
punkman |
on his eth address |
16:25 |
punkman |
you have to click "see more", then decode as utf |
16:29 |
whaack |
ah, ty |
16:37 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: where's the quote from ? |
16:38 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: see etherscan link |
16:39 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: it loads, but does not display any of the quoted lulz |
16:39 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: is this the 'Private Note feature, you must be Logged In' rubbish ? |
16:39 |
punkman |
no, "click to see more" |
16:40 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: clicked, displays raw tx and nuffin else |
16:40 |
punkman |
"The smart contract (https://github.com/polynetwork/fisco-contract/blob/70428651b94e34d9ca25d2dffb712682a0dec8e4/contracts/core/cross_chain_manager/data/EthCrossChainData.sol) requires a majority of keepers to sign an action for it to execute. Basically, it's a multisig. That's all cool but I think we can all agree that a multisig should have more |
16:40 |
punkman |
than 1 signers. Guess how many keepers did Poly Network used?" |
16:41 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: you have to click the "view input as" button |
16:42 |
asciilifeform |
a! |
16:42 |
asciilifeform |
ty punkman , worx |
16:47 |
punkman |
people still believing "decentralized exchanges will save us from goxxing" |
16:48 |
punkman |
and along with the beggars, the spammers coming out with a bunch of "Polygon sucks! come on over to Triangle, it's super secure" |
16:49 |
punkman |
always the same |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: there's a very pertinent 1970s piece, 'artificial intelligence meets natural stupidity', where, approx, 'just because you have a lisp function UNDERSTAND in your proggy, doesn't mean it understands anything' etc |
16:49 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2014-11-14 asciilifeform: http://home.engineering.iastate.edu/~alexs/classes/2011_Spring_585X/readings/02_Principles/AI_Meets_Natural_Stupidity.pdf |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: similarly here; you can call e.g. a gox 'decentralized'; doesn't make it so (or for that matter make 'decentralized gox' anything other than a joke, conceptually) |
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16:51 |
punkman |
"WHAT IF I MAKE A NEW TOKEN AND LET THE DAO DECIDE WHERE THE TOKENS GO" ahahah |
16:51 |
punkman |
guy's also a comedian |
16:56 |
punkman |
"Blockchain security firm Slowmist said in the wake of the attack that they have tracked down the attacker, including email address, IP information and device fingerprint. " |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
oblig. |
17:04 |
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cgra learned today, fwiw, that trb's almost every peer-accessible rubber variable can be inflated by a random bypasser/coordinated inbound peers, until ~OOM. not unlike previously noted... got tired of demonstrating every individual case |
17:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-20 11:37:55 asciilifeform: whaack: the challenge is to find 1 part that worx 100%, lol.. they're all like this |
17:04 |
cgra |
mempool-, addr-, and inventory-related, send/recv buffers, the agent string. |
17:04 |
cgra |
for bonus: perhaps even "mapBlockIndex", if second hand old-gen miner reusable as bogus block generator. (operator-defined checkpoints, or the 'cement' ought to fix) |
17:05 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: now see logic of asciilifeform's earlier summary ? |
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17:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-01 15:27:34 asciilifeform: cgra: the common theme here is that a peer ought not to be able to eat arbitrary ram. and that the correct end of the funnel to plug, is to actually measure the consumption, and kickban mercilessly. rather than trying to find each and every one of 'over 9000' places where shitoshi&co defined a type that can stretch to infinity |
17:09 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: otherwise yeah, but still need time to grasp where can put a peer fence, without blocking convoluted, but vital, moving parts. otoh, also, while ~every part, still appear enumerable... |
17:10 |
cgra |
i mean, while ~every part needs fixing, this "every" still perhaps countable by own fingers |
17:10 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: seems to be than an equiv. of obey_sendbuffersize for the recv buffer, oughta suffice |
17:12 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: unless i run outta steam before, might write a detailed summary, can see all my proposed why/why-not's |
17:12 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: ok |
17:12 |
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asciilifeform promises to read |
17:13 |
cgra |
currently figuring out mempool and trying to grasp 'how should instead' |
17:14 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: a p2ptron where unknowns can connect will always to some degree remain sybilable. hence asciilifeform's past attempts to introduce notion of 'known' peer to trb. |
17:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-07-19 14:42:20 asciilifeform: whaack: at 1 time, asciilifeform wrote a mechanism, 'wires', to make it simple to create 'private' cliques of noads that can connect to one another. but abandoned from lack of in-wot interest. (didn't help that the 1st version was buggy, either) |
17:16 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: the correct way to do mempool is -- 1) fixed, operator-config'able memory size 2) tx relayed by known peers hard-prioritized over all others |
17:17 |
asciilifeform |
retrofiting this to trb obv. aint trivial. (and thus far not proven necessary. but imho it's the only possible permanent pill against spam.) |
17:20 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: anyone-can-spends apparently also throw off prioritization, assuming fee/byte ordering was used |
17:21 |
asciilifeform |
cgra: not related to the above -- where simply prioritize traffic from nodes operated by people you know |
17:22 |
asciilifeform |
(and they -- do likewise) |
17:22 |
cgra |
asciilifeform: ah yes, true. only for the lower priority part |
17:34 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: your "back to article" link is just a javascript back button so it doesn't work if i start by navigating directly to the calculator. it would be handy to have a normal href link back to the article |
17:34 |
billymg |
here: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/colo/calc_v4.html |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: problem is, it is linked from ~several~ articles |
17:35 |
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asciilifeform not sure whether he's ever actually clicked on a 'back to..' link, personally. always uses browser's built-in |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
y'know, alt-leftarrow |
17:36 |
billymg |
this one imo is most useful, as it contains all the hardware specs http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3557 |
17:38 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: exactly lol, a button for "browser back" is beyond useless |
17:38 |
billymg |
which is why i suggested putting in an href |
17:39 |
billymg |
imo original post should be converted to a "Page", linked to from header ideally, and updated as the details change |
17:41 |
billymg |
i don't even see it among the many sidebar links currently |
17:44 |
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asciilifeform replaced the 'back' link w/ 'catalogue' at top of pg. |
17:44 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: it's under 'services'. but deliberately not aggressively advertised on my www, because is exclusively for asciilifeform's wot, and erryone in it knows exactly where to find |
17:48 |
asciilifeform |
wb bingoboingo |
17:48 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: neato, the catalog link is helpful imo |
17:48 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: np |
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18:46 |
scoopbot |
New post on Thimbron: Alcuin 9997: Gossip Support |
18:49 |
punkman |
https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-is-changing-and-bitmex-is-changing-with-it/ |
18:49 |
punkman |
"Today, we are happy to announce that we have reached a resolution with the CFTC and FinCEN. This marks a new chapter for BitMEX." |
18:50 |
punkman |
"Most importantly, crypto is becoming more responsible. Comprehensive user verification, compliance, and robust anti-money laundering controls are a must have." |
18:51 |
punkman |
"BitMEX agreed to pay as much as US$100 million to resolve the charges." |
18:51 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: lol! and that's while already being usg honeypot |
18:52 |
asciilifeform |
( all goxes are guilty until proven innocent (lol, how) of being transparent to reich from birth ) |
18:54 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: nifty, i'ma look at whole thing when i get the time |
19:00 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: ty! |
19:01 |
thimbronion |
!q seen artifexd |
19:01 |
dulapbot |
The user artifexd has never been seen in #asciilifeform. |
19:02 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen-anywhere artifexd |
19:02 |
dulapbot |
artifexd last seen in #trilema on 2015-04-22 18:16:41: I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is. |
19:07 |
PeterL |
thimbronion: in your unpack function, it might be good to also check if the ts is more than 15 min in future to reject weird? |
19:07 |
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asciilifeform did say 'within 15min', thought it was obv. to mean 'in either dir.' |
19:14 |
thimbronion |
Thanks PeterL you are correct, will fix. |
19:25 |
punkman |
https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684902301/A-Letter-from-Our-CEO-Reflecting-on-Progress-and-the-Road-Ahead |
19:26 |
punkman |
"As I said at the end of 2020, compliance is a journey – especially in new sectors like crypto. The industry still has a lot of uncertainty. We also recognize that with the growth comes more complexity and more responsibility. " |
19:27 |
punkman |
" In 2021 so far, we have completed assisting 5,600 investigation requests already, which is 100% more than those in 2020." |
19:28 |
punkman |
all aboard the compliance train |
19:28 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: i was convinced that all of this went to its logical conclusion 5+y ago |
19:28 |
asciilifeform |
the only surprise is that 'the rubble bounces' still |
19:29 |
asciilifeform |
live by usd -- die by usd |
19:31 |
asciilifeform |
who doesn't understand that literally every possible interaction anyone has at any time with a gox is reported to usg (and archived for same) -- must be down's syndrome sufferer. |
19:34 |
punkman |
it's slightly interesting that they are all coming out "we love KYC" "more regulation is very good" at the same time |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: prolly required in the 'secret appendix' to whatever they're given to sign. |
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20:13 |
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bingoboingo probably ought to get my bouncer to stop pinging freenode and connected to dulapnet |
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20:29 |
punkman |
https://www.gasnow.org/ $95 in fees to make an account on opensea |
20:30 |
punkman |
such scale, very smart |
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20:56 |
asciilifeform |
bingoboingo: i fiddled for a while to see if could connect to fleanode, gave up |
20:56 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-03 16:43:09 asciilifeform: finally gets off fleanode for good. |
20:57 |
bingoboingo |
Yeah, its definitely dead |
20:57 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: whole thing (incl. the '600 million $!!111 losses!111') is scheme to portray shitcoins as 'worth money' |
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20:58 |
asciilifeform |
betcha the e.g. '600m$ heist' wouldn't yield even 10btc if the fella actually sold |
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20:59 |
asciilifeform |
the algo hasn't afaik changed for yrs -- bake shitcoin, push via usg.media shills, build illusion of 'exchange rate' w/ wash trading at goxes, then slowly milk btc outta morons |
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21:01 |
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asciilifeform presently connected to dulapbot and signpost's arsenet |
21:02 |
asciilifeform |
bingoboingo ^ |
21:16 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-10#1051671 << arguably this evaporated 100% at the time of the 'dao' incident. |
21:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-10 12:07:24 billymg: punkman: so i see they've now 100% abandoned their "code is law" larping from 2017 |
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21:36 |
thimbronion |
Grrr just realized I also forgot to force the endianness of the timestamp in the packet. |
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23:49 |
mats |
in more discussion on cryptodollars, https://unexpected-values.com/crypto-dollars |
23:49 |
mats |
https://medium.com/@duganist/hypercryptodollarization-ec78372ba4af |
23:51 |
asciilifeform |
'...the US has a much stronger economy than almost all global peers. The US has been home to most of the wealth generated from the recent secular growth period fueled by software and computing innovation, a fact you can confirm by looking at the deviation between the S&P500 and all other global indices over the last 30 years' << rofl |
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