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02:01 bingoboingo Sorry, my bad. I was consolidating servers and... overlooked the DNS
02:04 bingoboingo Names resolve, sorry PeterL
02:18 asciilifeform wb bingoboingo
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02:50 thimbronion Successfully tested gossip style message relaying between three nodes. More testing to do wrt dedup detection, but should be able to publish the changes soon.
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04:43 punkman friendly web innovations https://css-tricks.com/choice-words-about-the-upcoming-deprecation-of-javascript-dialogs/
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13:40 punkman "$335M stolen from the Poly Network side-chain. They’re asking nicely for the hackers to return the funds, before they get really angry."
13:41 punkman https://twitter.com/PolyNetwork2/status/1425073990012268556 "We call on miners of affected blockchain and crypto exchanges to blacklist tokens coming from the above addresses"
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14:04 shinohai lolocopter
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14:21 punkman actually might be over $600m. had 1k "wrapped" btc too
14:23 shinohai Today is a good day, I *do* love the smell of DeFi rekt in the morning.
14:34 punkman "@Tether_to
14:34 punkman just froze ~33M $USDt on 0xC8a65Fadf0e0dDAf421F28FEAb69Bf6E2E589963 as part of the #PolyNetwork hack"
14:35 punkman Binance "We are aware of the http://poly.network exploit that occurred today. While no one controls BSC (or ETH), we are coordinating with all our security partners to proactively help. There are no guarantees. We will do as much as we can."
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15:03 asciilifeform punkman et al : is there any evidence against the hypothesis that such shitcoin 'heists' are perpetrated by the shitcoin author himself ?
15:04 asciilifeform i.e. the creator of whatever supposed-bug enables the 'ohnoez $xxx mil is gone' (and notice how always reported as an imaginary usd loss, RIAA-style!)
15:19 whaack asciilifeform: what's the 'RIAA style' refer to?
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15:37 mats itd be a serious gamble that some other person doesnt audit the contract and exploit the vuln first
15:49 asciilifeform whaack: recall, where they calculated 'losses' by multiplying '# of warez downloads' by what the disk cost
16:01 signpost seems a stretch that *nobody* is running such scams.
16:01 punkman asciilifeform: obviously no evidence. how does anyone ever prove they didn't put in catastrophic bug in whatever software
16:01 signpost but I'd expect mostly incompetence.
16:03 punkman there's always someone throwing out the accusation, but I think most tards like to think "why would you sink own company, you'd make more than heist if you keep it going"
16:03 punkman ties well into "proof of stake" ethertardation
16:07 punkman lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8cN6PdUYAY_eV_?format=jpg&name=900x900
16:11 billymg punkman: so i see they've now 100% abandoned their "code is law" larping from 2017
16:13 whaack billymg: gm, i almost have the python client done for trbexplorer
16:14 whaack i just need to add error handling and review the spec to make sure there's nothing too stupid before i lock into the api
16:16 punkman https://etherscan.io/tx/0x552bc0322d78c5648c5efa21d2daa2d0f14901ad4b15531f1ab5bbe5674de34f
16:16 punkman "IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BILLION HACK IF I HAD MOVED REMAINING SHITCOINS! DID I JUST SAVE THE PROJECT?
16:16 billymg whaack: awesome, def looking forward to trying it out
16:16 punkman NOT SO INTERESTED IN MONEY, NOW CONSIDERING RETURNING SOME TOKENS OR JUST LEAVING THEM HERE"
16:17 punkman guy asking for help "WONDER WHY TORNADO? WILL MINER STOP ME? TEACH ME PLZ!"
16:18 punkman ton of people sending him tx with begging msg
16:19 shinohai lol recall when MP published the "DAO hack" piece some showed up in comments with "plz Sir, mi familia!"
16:21 whaack punkman: are those quotes from the 'hacker', if so where did you see them?
16:25 punkman on his eth address
16:25 punkman you have to click "see more", then decode as utf
16:29 whaack ah, ty
16:37 asciilifeform punkman: where's the quote from ?
16:38 punkman asciilifeform: see etherscan link
16:39 asciilifeform punkman: it loads, but does not display any of the quoted lulz
16:39 asciilifeform punkman: is this the 'Private Note feature, you must be Logged In' rubbish ?
16:39 punkman no, "click to see more"
16:40 asciilifeform punkman: clicked, displays raw tx and nuffin else
16:40 punkman "The smart contract (https://github.com/polynetwork/fisco-contract/blob/70428651b94e34d9ca25d2dffb712682a0dec8e4/contracts/core/cross_chain_manager/data/EthCrossChainData.sol) requires a majority of keepers to sign an action for it to execute. Basically, it's a multisig. That's all cool but I think we can all agree that a multisig should have more
16:40 punkman than 1 signers. Guess how many keepers did Poly Network used?"
16:41 punkman asciilifeform: you have to click the "view input as" button
16:42 asciilifeform a!
16:42 asciilifeform ty punkman , worx
16:47 punkman people still believing "decentralized exchanges will save us from goxxing"
16:48 punkman and along with the beggars, the spammers coming out with a bunch of "Polygon sucks! come on over to Triangle, it's super secure"
16:49 punkman always the same
16:49 asciilifeform punkman: there's a very pertinent 1970s piece, 'artificial intelligence meets natural stupidity', where, approx, 'just because you have a lisp function UNDERSTAND in your proggy, doesn't mean it understands anything' etc
16:49 dulapbot (trilema) 2014-11-14 asciilifeform: http://home.engineering.iastate.edu/~alexs/classes/2011_Spring_585X/readings/02_Principles/AI_Meets_Natural_Stupidity.pdf
16:50 asciilifeform punkman: similarly here; you can call e.g. a gox 'decentralized'; doesn't make it so (or for that matter make 'decentralized gox' anything other than a joke, conceptually)
16:51 punkman "WHAT IF I MAKE A NEW TOKEN AND LET THE DAO DECIDE WHERE THE TOKENS GO" ahahah
16:51 punkman guy's also a comedian
16:56 punkman "Blockchain security firm Slowmist said in the wake of the attack that they have tracked down the attacker, including email address, IP information and device fingerprint. "
17:02 asciilifeform oblig.
17:04 * cgra learned today, fwiw, that trb's almost every peer-accessible rubber variable can be inflated by a random bypasser/coordinated inbound peers, until ~OOM. not unlike previously noted... got tired of demonstrating every individual case
17:04 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-20 11:37:55 asciilifeform: whaack: the challenge is to find 1 part that worx 100%, lol.. they're all like this
17:04 cgra mempool-, addr-, and inventory-related, send/recv buffers, the agent string.
17:04 cgra for bonus: perhaps even "mapBlockIndex", if second hand old-gen miner reusable as bogus block generator. (operator-defined checkpoints, or the 'cement' ought to fix)
17:05 asciilifeform cgra: now see logic of asciilifeform's earlier summary ?
17:05 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-01 15:27:34 asciilifeform: cgra: the common theme here is that a peer ought not to be able to eat arbitrary ram. and that the correct end of the funnel to plug, is to actually measure the consumption, and kickban mercilessly. rather than trying to find each and every one of 'over 9000' places where shitoshi&co defined a type that can stretch to infinity
17:09 cgra asciilifeform: otherwise yeah, but still need time to grasp where can put a peer fence, without blocking convoluted, but vital, moving parts. otoh, also, while ~every part, still appear enumerable...
17:10 cgra i mean, while ~every part needs fixing, this "every" still perhaps countable by own fingers
17:10 asciilifeform cgra: seems to be than an equiv. of obey_sendbuffersize for the recv buffer, oughta suffice
17:12 cgra asciilifeform: unless i run outta steam before, might write a detailed summary, can see all my proposed why/why-not's
17:12 asciilifeform cgra: ok
17:12 * asciilifeform promises to read
17:13 cgra currently figuring out mempool and trying to grasp 'how should instead'
17:14 asciilifeform cgra: a p2ptron where unknowns can connect will always to some degree remain sybilable. hence asciilifeform's past attempts to introduce notion of 'known' peer to trb.
17:14 dulapbot Logged on 2020-07-19 14:42:20 asciilifeform: whaack: at 1 time, asciilifeform wrote a mechanism, 'wires', to make it simple to create 'private' cliques of noads that can connect to one another. but abandoned from lack of in-wot interest. (didn't help that the 1st version was buggy, either)
17:16 asciilifeform cgra: the correct way to do mempool is -- 1) fixed, operator-config'able memory size 2) tx relayed by known peers hard-prioritized over all others
17:17 asciilifeform retrofiting this to trb obv. aint trivial. (and thus far not proven necessary. but imho it's the only possible permanent pill against spam.)
17:20 cgra asciilifeform: anyone-can-spends apparently also throw off prioritization, assuming fee/byte ordering was used
17:21 asciilifeform cgra: not related to the above -- where simply prioritize traffic from nodes operated by people you know
17:22 asciilifeform (and they -- do likewise)
17:22 cgra asciilifeform: ah yes, true. only for the lower priority part
17:34 billymg asciilifeform: your "back to article" link is just a javascript back button so it doesn't work if i start by navigating directly to the calculator. it would be handy to have a normal href link back to the article
17:34 billymg here: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/colo/calc_v4.html
17:34 asciilifeform billymg: problem is, it is linked from ~several~ articles
17:35 * asciilifeform not sure whether he's ever actually clicked on a 'back to..' link, personally. always uses browser's built-in
17:35 asciilifeform y'know, alt-leftarrow
17:36 billymg this one imo is most useful, as it contains all the hardware specs http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3557
17:38 billymg asciilifeform: exactly lol, a button for "browser back" is beyond useless
17:38 billymg which is why i suggested putting in an href
17:39 billymg imo original post should be converted to a "Page", linked to from header ideally, and updated as the details change
17:41 billymg i don't even see it among the many sidebar links currently
17:44 * asciilifeform replaced the 'back' link w/ 'catalogue' at top of pg.
17:44 asciilifeform billymg: it's under 'services'. but deliberately not aggressively advertised on my www, because is exclusively for asciilifeform's wot, and erryone in it knows exactly where to find
17:48 asciilifeform wb bingoboingo
17:48 billymg asciilifeform: neato, the catalog link is helpful imo
17:48 asciilifeform billymg: np
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18:46 scoopbot New post on Thimbron: Alcuin 9997: Gossip Support
18:49 punkman https://blog.bitmex.com/crypto-is-changing-and-bitmex-is-changing-with-it/
18:49 punkman "Today, we are happy to announce that we have reached a resolution with the CFTC and FinCEN. This marks a new chapter for BitMEX."
18:50 punkman "Most importantly, crypto is becoming more responsible. Comprehensive user verification, compliance, and robust anti-money laundering controls are a must have."
18:51 punkman "BitMEX agreed to pay as much as US$100 million to resolve the charges."
18:51 asciilifeform punkman: lol! and that's while already being usg honeypot
18:52 asciilifeform ( all goxes are guilty until proven innocent (lol, how) of being transparent to reich from birth )
18:54 asciilifeform thimbronion: nifty, i'ma look at whole thing when i get the time
19:00 thimbronion asciilifeform: ty!
19:01 thimbronion !q seen artifexd
19:01 dulapbot The user artifexd has never been seen in #asciilifeform.
19:02 asciilifeform !q seen-anywhere artifexd
19:02 dulapbot artifexd last seen in #trilema on 2015-04-22 18:16:41: I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
19:07 PeterL thimbronion: in your unpack function, it might be good to also check if the ts is more than 15 min in future to reject weird?
19:07 * asciilifeform did say 'within 15min', thought it was obv. to mean 'in either dir.'
19:14 thimbronion Thanks PeterL you are correct, will fix.
19:25 punkman https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684902301/A-Letter-from-Our-CEO-Reflecting-on-Progress-and-the-Road-Ahead
19:26 punkman "As I said at the end of 2020, compliance is a journey – especially in new sectors like crypto. The industry still has a lot of uncertainty. We also recognize that with the growth comes more complexity and more responsibility. "
19:27 punkman " In 2021 so far, we have completed assisting 5,600 investigation requests already, which is 100% more than those in 2020."
19:28 punkman all aboard the compliance train
19:28 asciilifeform punkman: i was convinced that all of this went to its logical conclusion 5+y ago
19:28 asciilifeform the only surprise is that 'the rubble bounces' still
19:29 asciilifeform live by usd -- die by usd
19:31 asciilifeform who doesn't understand that literally every possible interaction anyone has at any time with a gox is reported to usg (and archived for same) -- must be down's syndrome sufferer.
19:34 punkman it's slightly interesting that they are all coming out "we love KYC" "more regulation is very good" at the same time
19:34 asciilifeform punkman: prolly required in the 'secret appendix' to whatever they're given to sign.
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20:13 * bingoboingo probably ought to get my bouncer to stop pinging freenode and connected to dulapnet
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20:29 punkman https://www.gasnow.org/ $95 in fees to make an account on opensea
20:30 punkman such scale, very smart
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20:56 asciilifeform bingoboingo: i fiddled for a while to see if could connect to fleanode, gave up
20:56 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-03 16:43:09 asciilifeform: finally gets off fleanode for good.
20:57 bingoboingo Yeah, its definitely dead
20:57 asciilifeform punkman: whole thing (incl. the '600 million $!!111 losses!111') is scheme to portray shitcoins as 'worth money'
20:58 asciilifeform betcha the e.g. '600m$ heist' wouldn't yield even 10btc if the fella actually sold
20:59 asciilifeform the algo hasn't afaik changed for yrs -- bake shitcoin, push via usg.media shills, build illusion of 'exchange rate' w/ wash trading at goxes, then slowly milk btc outta morons
21:01 * asciilifeform presently connected to dulapbot and signpost's arsenet
21:02 asciilifeform bingoboingo ^
21:16 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-10#1051671 << arguably this evaporated 100% at the time of the 'dao' incident.
21:16 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-10 12:07:24 billymg: punkman: so i see they've now 100% abandoned their "code is law" larping from 2017
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21:36 thimbronion Grrr just realized I also forgot to force the endianness of the timestamp in the packet.
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23:49 mats in more discussion on cryptodollars, https://unexpected-values.com/crypto-dollars
23:49 mats https://medium.com/@duganist/hypercryptodollarization-ec78372ba4af
23:51 asciilifeform '...the US has a much stronger economy than almost all global peers. The US has been home to most of the wealth generated from the recent secular growth period fueled by software and computing innovation, a fact you can confirm by looking at the deviation between the S&P500 and all other global indices over the last 30 years' << rofl
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