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05:21 adlai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-30#1027873 << so?
05:21 snsabot Logged on 2020-12-30 12:15:56 asciilifeform: say what one likes about mp, but he didn't hotlink!111
05:26 adlai for the children: hotlinking is when you anchor a link to a URL of a resource hosted by a different computer, a practice that has already been mentioned previously in the logs here as not necessarily deserving of the bad rap it gets.
05:27 adlai maybe they're all hosted on the same computer, and the only melanoma is a quazicrystal of cloudflare wedged in between that and thou.
05:41 adlai someday, maybe verisimilitude will give a lik-bez re: gopher
05:41 snsabot Logged on 2020-10-22 12:00:55 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-10-22#1023451 << afaik no one had bothered to write a single-page likbez on the subj. the root of the matter is that it's a usg-sponsored (via mit) craftily-fraudulent item, built specifically as an instrument to undermine bitcoin and, as the perps hoped, to discredit the very concept.
05:41 snsabot (trilema) 2015-03-13 mircea_popescu: in the manner people write fucking books. or at least did, before the great usian likbez pogrom
05:42 * adlai avoids linking directly to /log-search?q=likbez&chan=all , and recommends similar heuristic
05:45 adlai my tl;dw is 'hypotext transfer protocol', although someone who's been dumping such baked brix in the web of liquishit for so many years might have a slightly less flippant treatment of the matter.
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10:58 trinque the whole topic is stupid in the context of a www based upon addressing "files" on "computers" rather than concepts in knowledge-space, maaan
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13:52 verisimilitude What relation has this to myself?
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14:42 trinque not sure what that question even means.
14:44 trinque oh right, adlai free-associating above
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15:25 shinohai dsdq
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16:45 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-13#1031522 << you realize why google et al force-feed sslism, right ? ( mainly -- to prevent effective ad filtration )
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16:45 snsabot Logged on 2021-02-13 16:06:12 adlai: is there no way to politely tell an HTTP 301 parrot to fuck off with the TLS and serve the insecure static page over HTTP?
16:45 asciilifeform from that pov, why would they serve you plain html ? the pretense of 'compatible w/ all browsers' went out the window long ago.
16:48 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-13#1031533 << chances are he's loading some atrocity that fetches most of itself via js etc
16:48 snsabot Logged on 2021-02-13 16:45:24 verisimilitude: Try using wget, adlai.
16:49 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
16:49 btcinfobot Current BTC price in USD: $48919.73
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17:05 verisimilitude http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-13#1031553 I didn't bother mentioning it, but I completely agree, yes; this is also why FTP is being attacked, because it works.
17:05 snsabot Logged on 2021-02-14 16:45:32 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-13#1031522 << you realize why google et al force-feed sslism, right ? ( mainly -- to prevent effective ad filtration )
17:07 verisimilitude I was reading this lately, and believe mine MMC to be the pair of glasses, asciilifeform, but this is primarily because I built the system for myself, moreso than its design qualities.
17:08 verisimilitude I'm looking to purchase a better input system, and see this: http://www.openstenoproject.org
17:08 verisimilitude I'd be grateful for any advice in stenography and chorded keyboards and whatnot.
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18:48 trinque verisimilitude: using only one finger at a time to type did always strike me as wasteful
18:48 trinque curious how this works out for you if you get one.
19:01 verisimilitude Most stenotypes I've seen have two rows of keys for each finger, but the odd design on the front page of that website is interesting. I'd like to not only reduce finger movement, but also see how I type more quickly. I do a great deal of writing, and recent changes to stave off hand issues has revealed things to me.
19:13 trinque yeah, I've been meaning to finally bother to try dvorak for the same reason.
19:16 verisimilitude I've been using Dvorak for years, but it's really not good enough.
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19:52 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-14#1031564 << see also my piece re chorders.
19:52 snsabot Logged on 2021-02-14 17:08:29 verisimilitude: I'd be grateful for any advice in stenography and chorded keyboards and whatnot.
19:54 asciilifeform verisimilitude: as for stenotypes, asciilifeform has never been interested in'em, given as they are narrowly specialized for transcribing monolingual human speech. if you try to use one for programming, where various 'not in dictionary' words, special chars, etc. -- will be quite frustrated.
19:57 asciilifeform the 200-300wpm bragged about by stenographists, is result of 'cheating' where the $lang is huffmanized, i.e. the most commonly used ~words~ (rather than characters) get the handiest chords; connectives frequently omitted; punctuation is absent.
20:00 asciilifeform the stenotype solved the problem it was designed to solve (transcribe speech in realtime, prior to invention of phonograph) but it aint clear that it'd win as 'keyboard replacement'.
20:01 asciilifeform chording kbd, otoh, imho ~would~ win, but 1) strictly in the context of 'less wear on musculature' 2) if taught from childhood.
20:05 verisimilitude So be there any reasonable hardware suggestions?
20:06 asciilifeform verisimilitude: try 1st asciilifeform's microwriter emulator on a standard pc kbd, to see whether chordism is even 'for you'
20:07 asciilifeform verisimilitude: if yes -- can try e.g. 'infogrip bat' or handmade similar.
20:08 asciilifeform ( for above -- you need a browser w/ js . just about errything from past 15y afaik worx )
20:09 verisimilitude I appreciate the help.
20:09 asciilifeform np
20:09 verisimilitude Much of what I do could be considered writing human words, so a stenotype isn't unreasonable.
20:10 asciilifeform verisimilitude: there are proggies that'll simulate, similar to above, stenotype on pc kbd. look around.
20:11 asciilifeform if worx for you -- pick up one of the various stenokbd.
20:15 verisimilitude In particular, mine MMC would need a new mapping, and would otherwise work unmodified with a new input device.
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20:55 verisimilitude I like this, asciilifeform.
20:56 verisimilitude Now, the Microwriter doesn't look like it can be used to replace a PC keyboard, and I've learned the CyKey email is inactive.
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22:01 verisimilitude That still doesn't answer why Gopher was mentioned, adlai.
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22:57 PDogJr sup
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