| 07:53 |
feedbot |
http://mvdstandard.net/2020/12/airstrip-one-isolated-london-evacuated/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Airstrip One Isolated London Evacuated |
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~ 3 hours 28 minutes ~ |
| 11:22 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-20#1027156 << ty billymg. congrats on renewing your subscription ! |
| 11:22 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-12-20 22:04:16 deedbot: billymg paid asciilifeform invoice 3 |
| 11:22 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: you are now good through 11 feb 2022. |
| 11:22 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 11:22 |
btcinfobot |
Current BTC price in USD: $23184.49 |
| 11:22 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
Polling 16 nodes... |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.064s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=662140 |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
71.114.46.209:8333 : (pool-71-114-46-209.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.097s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=662376 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.119s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=662376 |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.145s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=662376 |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.148s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=662376 |
| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:22 |
watchglass |
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| 11:24 |
asciilifeform |
attn. trb noad operators : asciilifeform's .27 noad will be take offline for maintenance today. i expect to bring it back after new year, likely under new ip. |
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~ 7 hours 11 minutes ~ |
| 18:36 |
trinque |
heh, after a certain -jN the gnat build process just says "fuck it, no RTS for you", and succeeds, happily trashing your existing rts and therefore your existing gnat in the process. |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 18:58 |
trinque |
and in other things I never wished to know, gnu make has a dynamic loader! |
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~ 34 minutes ~ |
| 19:33 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: pretty interesting on both counts. why btw was it able to trash existing rts ? was building while root ? |
| 19:47 |
trinque |
yep, working on "pentacle" (actually like the name; it's sticking) and the build process on that thing doesn't do any kind of sandboxing |
| 19:48 |
trinque |
make 4.2.1, not a particularly ancient vintage |
| 19:50 |
trinque |
anyhow, got this turd bootstrap-building on a debian oldstable, which is nice. seems like gcc's gnat of around version 6.x can build gnat-2016 without much complaint. |
| 19:51 |
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asciilifeform had a rather unpleasant week+ re-capping ye olde s2915. finally threw in towel and replaced w/ kcma-d8, only to find that it has rotten pcie... |
| 19:51 |
trinque |
what'd they do to it? |
| 19:51 |
trinque |
broken by design or bad life? |
| 19:53 |
asciilifeform |
it aint clear. middle slot doesn't seem to function properly. and apparently not only on mine. the hilarious bit, is that fsftards are selling these at 1000% markup! (mine's from elsewhere, lol) |
| 19:54 |
* |
asciilifeform will prolly try the infamous kdpe-d16 next. this an' the other one, were the last 2 opteron+ecc mobos before the great fritzchipping. |
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| 19:55 |
asciilifeform |
went through ~3~ s2915 spares, all had rotten caps. plague years. |
| 19:55 |
asciilifeform |
recapping'em is a 1st class bitch, also, they're all 1) pb-free solder 2) sitting on massive copper traces. 20+min. per. even w/ 100w iron. |
| 19:57 |
trinque |
curious how long these things will be available in working order |
| 19:57 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: atm regularly found on e.g. ebay (and in this particular example -- factory-sealed) for ~100 $ |
| 19:58 |
asciilifeform |
as for the s2915, apparently even virginal spares rotted from time. electrolyte in 'plague' caps evaporates even on shelf. |
| 19:58 |
asciilifeform |
it's a 2006-7 vintage board. prime plague yrs. |
| 19:58 |
trinque |
yep, unsurprising. the cheapening of industrial processes was already rolling well before the time of opteron |
| 19:59 |
trinque |
not that I discourage anymoe from collecting; I've got a fat stack of ppc mac waffle irons |
| 19:59 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: not mere cheapening. the great capacitor plague (tm)(r). |
| 20:00 |
asciilifeform |
just about all gear '05--'08 afflicted. (and often enuff, later vintages. the dud caps sat around in warehouses, and sold 'hot potato' for years after scandal blew) |
| 20:00 |
trinque |
ah, I wasn't even aware of this |
| 20:01 |
asciilifeform |
1 of the costliest -- even if not 'sexy', a la chernobyl -- technogenic catastrophes in history.. |
| 20:02 |
asciilifeform |
infested not only mobos, but hdds, ps, even turned up in autos etc |
| 20:03 |
asciilifeform |
see e.g. my monument to subj circa '17 (when the 1st ones finally blew in mine) |
| 20:07 |
trinque |
knock on wood, my macs still run, and they're over two decades old by now |
| 20:08 |
trinque |
what was your critique of sifive again btw? not that I have a counterpoint, just don't recall |
| 20:08 |
trinque |
seems like the only even remotely open-ish contemporary hardware |
| 20:08 |
trinque |
(aside fabless, of course) |
| 20:13 |
asciilifeform |
which sifive item ? iirc they make a (virtually undocumented) small fpga; and a riscv microcontroller |
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~ 28 minutes ~ |
| 20:41 |
trinque |
I've got one of their tiny devboards otw, was thinking of picking up this too https://www.crowdsupply.com/sifive/hifive-unmatched |
| 20:42 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: i have their little riscv micro board |
| 20:49 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: iirc the 'unmatched' came up last yr in a thread -- it's rk-level box -- but priced (new) like the princely 32core vintage opterons i've racked |
| 20:51 |
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asciilifeform doesn't see a board w/out at least 2 pcie x16 orifices as a workstation -- where to put the 3ware raid an' the 4-output video card ? |
| 20:51 |
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trinque just noticing that arm appears to be in questionable hands, exploring alternatives |
| 20:52 |
asciilifeform |
arm always sucked from 'head' pov |
| 20:53 |
asciilifeform |
700+ instrs!! |
| 20:54 |
* |
asciilifeform dug into riscvism, found that it resembles mips (i.e. very fascist 'no flags' pipelined thing) , i suppose not surprise given that it was originally birthed to circumvent mips patent (since long expired) |
| 20:55 |
asciilifeform |
'unmatched' would make a rather spiffy replacement, imho, for rk -- if not for the fact that it costs like 14 rk's... |
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| 20:55 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: whole thing reminds me of raptor co. an' their ibms |
| 20:57 |
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asciilifeform understands perhaps better than most, the fact that baking pcb in small runs is costly. but at same time not eager to pay opteron workhorse price for the equiv. of a rk. |
| 20:58 |
asciilifeform |
esp. since would have to bake gentoo for it from ~0. |
| 20:58 |
asciilifeform |
(similar tru re the ibm thing and similar exotic irons) |
| 20:58 |
trinque |
will have to see if their prices decrease at scale |
| 21:00 |
asciilifeform |
wonder wai they (like arm vendors, somehow solid wall..) skimped on expandable ram |
| 21:08 |
trinque |
not sure why that became ubiquitous; the brackets and connectors can't be expensive |
| 21:09 |
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trinque afk for a while, later |
| 21:09 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: i suspect it makes board easier to route |
| 21:09 |
asciilifeform |
from some forum, re subj, imho pertinent comment : |
| 21:09 |
asciilifeform |
'Once development pc meant cheap hardware, no frills, where the manufacturer most of the time sold it below price so that it could be adopted and tested by as many people as possible. Now it’s completely the opposite: this hardware is sold at crazy prices and bought most of the time by people who will keep it in a museum.' |
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| 21:09 |
trinque |
figured it had to be cost of *something* |
| 21:09 |
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asciilifeform also bbl |