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06:37 adlai verisimilitude: you seem to have expected exclusivity for part, if not all, of the work. that is alright, and possibly even quite reasonable. I'll reconsider the offer's structure before acting upon asciilifeform's suggestion w.r.t. deeding a signed offer.
06:40 adlai as far as my availability during the time you might spend: please expect your investigation of the program, and the comments already found within, to more closely resemble that of a forensic toxicologist, than that of a parole officer.
~ 4 hours 59 minutes ~
11:39 asciilifeform !w poll
11:39 watchglass Polling 16 nodes...
11:39 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.023s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.100s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431 (Operator: asciilifeform)
11:39 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.111s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.113s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431 (Operator: asciilifeform)
11:39 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.122s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.130s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.167s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.220s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : (tlapnet-38-54.cust.tlapnet.cz) Alive: (0.236s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : (182518.pk.3pp.slovanet.sk) Alive: (0.237s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=413252
11:39 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.328s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:39 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.583s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=648431
11:40 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.798s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=554045 (Operator: whaack)
11:40 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov)
11:40 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
11:41 asciilifeform $vwap
11:41 BusyBot The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 10764.21 USD
11:44 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-09-14#1021726 << pretty much erryone who lived long enuff, had someone take his mug on www. the hysteria around the subj reminds asciilifeform of the indians, 'photo steals soul!'
11:44 snsabot Logged on 2020-09-14 23:08:40 mats: asciilifeform: i agree with you, unfortunately though its common to get volunteered into sharing photos publicly, by friends acquaintances and random passersby
11:45 asciilifeform asciilifeform, for instance, was photo'd by mp in '14. afaik still downloadable on his www, by nao prolly in iso standard pistol target format. i can't picture wai to give a damn.
11:48 mats intel is just information until there is context
11:51 asciilifeform mats: point is, mugs aint seekrit. for 20+y anyone w/ a coupla $ can get mug from $name .
~ 22 minutes ~
12:13 mats i get that, and there might be others in the shot, or exif data, or other useful metadata like where uploaded
12:27 mats maybe its a peer group peculiarity, i dunno. i've had a lot of photos taken of me without explicit consent, and that's fine even in this context because i'm not an interesting target for stalking. but i could see it becoming a problem for people i know
~ 1 hours 21 minutes ~
13:49 asciilifeform mats: near as i can tell, 'stalking' is a 'new age crime' concocted by hysteri-feminists et al. sorta like 'human trafficking' and similar.
~ 15 minutes ~
14:04 thimbronion asciilifeform: I have been stalked. It's annoying as hell - I'm not mp, don't have a gang to encourage people to leave me alone.
14:06 asciilifeform thimbronion: interesting -- what specifically consisted of ?
14:08 thimbronion asciilifeform: Constant phone calls, texts, unwanted birthday cake on front step. Unwanted chicken sacrifices. Had to change my number.
14:08 asciilifeform lol, here in maryland, usa folx sometimes pay to have this kinda thing fraudulently staged, so they can get pistol permit
14:09 * asciilifeform tries to picture why & why would send 'unwanted cake'
14:09 asciilifeform ... poisoned ?
14:09 thimbronion asciilifeform: unrequited love
14:10 thimbronion asciilifeform: I ended up eating the cake - not poisoned.
14:10 asciilifeform of chix?! what'd it cost you to simply agree to fuck'er ?
14:11 thimbronion asciilifeform: it'd cost me having other girlfriends.
14:11 asciilifeform could not offer a harem slot ?
14:12 asciilifeform if yer the sorta fella whom chix 'stalk', imho not unreasonable to presume that it'd work
14:12 thimbronion asciilifeform: I made the offer - it was rejected.
14:12 asciilifeform nuts.
14:16 asciilifeform even as described by thimbronion -- hardly seems moar than a light spam annoyance. asciilifeform for instance has no unrequited groupies, but simply from background radiation of spamiverse finds himself w/ whitelist-only phone and dedicated rubbish bin for junk snail mail..
14:17 mats asciilifeform: depending on how attractive your social group is, its not hysterical at all
14:21 mats whether its exaggerated is... in the eye of the beholder i guess
14:21 asciilifeform mats: tbf asciilifeform not only not yet earned sniper bullet, but not even spam cake like thimbronion , so not esp. experienced w/ subj
14:25 asciilifeform mats: but from my pov 'interesting people' often seem to work quite hard to deliberately create this type of problem for selves; from the isis commander who posted photo+exif of his hq on arsebook, to the porn chix who post daily cunt + exif on same, etc
14:25 mats kinda like the spam cake story, a friend has an attractive gf with a creepy, loaded classmate who would regularly take everyone out to lunch
14:26 mats at one point he would bring catered lunches several times a week, for two semesters
14:26 mats my friend was pleased and received a lot of leftovers
14:26 asciilifeform this is a sin ?
14:26 mats lmao
14:26 mats well, there were a lot of rejected advances and he would only give them to female classmates
14:27 asciilifeform wai wouldn't they 'laff all the way to the bank' ?
14:28 mats they did, and he was a harmless not-rapey type, but it doesn't always turn out so positively after n-th missed social cues
14:28 asciilifeform mats: in ru there are camwhores who set up so that rando idjits can wire'em money. some receive 6-fig $ routinely, and even find that they've been titled real estate, by such idjits. they make millions and laugh.
14:29 mats we have that in usa, its called patreon and cashapp
14:29 mats or onlyfans
14:29 asciilifeform if moron shows up to her penthouse with 'ideas', the guards break his limbs.
14:30 mats only looking to dispel the notion this is hysteria
14:32 asciilifeform mats: in my pov it's an economic calculation like any other. i.e. if the type of biz yer in routinely results in assassins at yer door, but doesn't bring in enuff to hire guards or live inside a minefield, possibly rethink the biz ?
14:32 mats the business of having a vagina and nice tits?
14:34 asciilifeform mats: not simply having the organs (plenty of these on planet3) but spamming'em on 'social www' etc
14:34 asciilifeform aka 'attention whoring'
14:35 mats its a reflection of the times when attention whoring is heavily normalized
14:35 asciilifeform suppose mats collects rare metals, and has 1e6$ worth of au bricks on his desk. he wouldn't take daily pics of it an' post on arsebook. given as he has a brain.
14:36 asciilifeform 'normalized' idjicy is still idiotic.
14:37 mats sure, i buy that
14:37 asciilifeform for instance i find it hilarious that folx in usa who own 5figs$ worth of e.g. rifles, and see nightmares at night re usg confiscators, still cannot resist to post detailed jpegs of same, erry other day
14:38 asciilifeform ( often enuff w/ exif etc )
14:38 asciilifeform one'd naively assume, who the hell needs to know that you have a 'barrett'.
14:38 asciilifeform yet idiot can't resist.
14:39 asciilifeform then very surprised that local police bringing unpaid traffic ticket show up w/ rpg.
14:39 mats maybe theres a qt you know who likes guns too
14:40 asciilifeform or consider '13337 d00dz' who can't hold back to brag about their virii.
14:40 mats when she comments you can invite her to a boba shop
14:40 asciilifeform lol suure
14:41 mats or a goat milk shop or whatever it is ukrainians are into
14:43 asciilifeform vanity, imho, is sin.
14:43 asciilifeform the kind that folx end up paying for.
14:44 mats its my least favorite sin
14:44 asciilifeform either pay for guards, walls, minefields; or be ready to pay w/ the goods that you flash like moron to the hungry & avaricious .
14:46 asciilifeform there's 'over 9000' stories of e.g. usg defectors to su, who were nailed because after 20y could not resist to buy mercedes.
14:46 asciilifeform 'how didja buy it on gs-13 wage?' '...'
14:48 * asciilifeform finds it interesting, that so many folx would in fact rather 'flash' than live.
14:48 mats i bought another air purifier today
14:49 mats california #1
14:50 asciilifeform oh hm mats i was under impression that you moved to northeast usa
14:50 mats i lived there for a long time but im in socal now
14:51 mats moved for the climate and now i have boogers every day
14:52 * asciilifeform over the years turned down many californistan work offers, incl. 1 that was already signed by $co. simply -ev, for just about any realistic amt (for worker bees) of dough
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14:53 asciilifeform mats: i know a fella there, who recently described fire alarm going off in his house w/ tightly closed windows/doors.
14:53 asciilifeform mats: i rec to evacuate before the 'lifetime california tax' thing is enacted.
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14:53 asciilifeform supposedly imminent.
14:55 mats good thing i hide my wealth in bars of palladium
14:56 asciilifeform it's interesting, ianal but i naively supposed 'californistan couldn't tax folx who live outside'. but if think about it, it's same thing usg does for escapees
14:56 asciilifeform so there is precedent.
14:57 mats you could domicile in south dakota as one of those rv transients
14:58 mats deriving nontrivial cali income and hiding that would be hard though
14:58 asciilifeform related recent lulzpiece
14:59 mats ah yes, nh, land of the free
14:59 asciilifeform mats: i suspect he simply picked dark spot on population map, or the like
15:00 mats kind of hard to live there as an asian man though
15:00 mats but otherwise my kind of people
15:00 asciilifeform ( worth noting, wherever the californistan inmates flee to en masse , will likely eventually turn into similar shithole )
15:01 asciilifeform mats: in dc/bmore area, asia raises no attention, lotsa folx
15:01 mats texans are complaining about ca refugees right now
15:02 mats i drew unbelievable flak in the first quarter, from randos and in parking lots, after coming back to socal and wearing a mask everywhere -- picked up the habit in taipei shortly after coronapocalypse began
15:03 mats apparently some public officials were telling people they didnt need them, reversed after a few weeks passed, what a mess
15:04 asciilifeform was Official usg proclamation. 'save masks for Official medics, don't waste'
15:04 asciilifeform then massive overproduction, and must sell, and suddenly 'mandatory'
15:05 mats being an asian man in rural new england is like wearing a red hat in blue country
15:06 mats asian women don't seem to have a problem though in my experience
15:06 asciilifeform it occurs to asciilifeform that in fact he hasn't been to anywhere in usa >100km from an international airport. so not deeply familiar w/ such locales.
15:06 mats nobody cares about asian american issues anyway
15:07 asciilifeform for all i know, there are villages where you'll be tried for witchcraft for knowing heathen tongues etc
15:10 thimbronion asciilifeform: I noticed a trend recently with younger hispanic girls - proudly esl. Spanish considered vulgar.
15:10 asciilifeform thimbronion: iirc similar process took place in early 20th w/ italians in nyc etc
15:11 thimbronion asciilifeform: it goes against the images I've seen of mexican flags at various rallies.
15:11 asciilifeform ( iirc trinque noted that he descended from these, but family did not speak italian )
15:12 asciilifeform thimbronion: maybe not same folx waving the flag as being 'proudly esl' ?
15:13 thimbronion asciilifeform: likely the case
~ 15 minutes ~
15:28 trinque yep, there was a split. great-grandfather considered english a "guttural, boorish language" as relayed by his translator, because he refused to learn it.
15:28 trinque his son taught none of his kids the language, and thus.
15:29 asciilifeform trinque: funnily enuff this is exactly how asciilifeform saw (and sees) engl. lol
15:31 trinque I buy it, lol
15:32 trinque in college an asian ladyfriend told me we all sound like we're barking and hissing at each other.
~ 3 hours 43 minutes ~
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