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10:46 thimbronion asciilifeform: how would you know if any public figure is not reading a script?
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11:33 asciilifeform thimbronion: you wouldn't necessarily (e.g. napoleon ~could~ in principle have read script from beelzebub). but usually quite obvious when ~is~ reading
11:41 thimbronion asciilifeform: the problem is that I have no way to prove that Trump, Sulla, Napoleon, Alexander wasn't reading a script. I would need access to the screenplay before the screening.
11:45 asciilifeform see above.
11:45 thimbronion asciilifeform: saw
11:46 thimbronion was infact involved in the thread
11:47 asciilifeform i'm satisfied, for instance, that e.g. kennedy deviated from his script.
11:48 thimbronion Did Zhirinovsky ever win executive office?
11:49 asciilifeform sat in parliament since '90
11:49 thimbronion If not, Zhirinovsky seems more like a David Duke.
11:50 asciilifeform what office did duke hold ?
11:53 thimbronion Some state congress - but not any executive office. Was for many years the media white nationalist darling used to assocate with anyone to the right of Trotsky.
11:53 thimbronion There is some other guy currently.
11:55 asciilifeform not quite same item then. 'zhirik' is well-known figure, initially put in charge of '1st non-kpss party' (by kgp, project curator), then reliably elected to parliament where he plays ru equiv. of 'maga' ( picks up microphone, 'let's reconquer estonia and use to store nuke waste', 'let's nuke istanbul in revenge for the plane in syria', etc )
11:56 thimbronion Anyway - not defending Trump - that gets you a lengthy federal trial. Just - viewing history as a series of automatons sucks the joy out of it to say the least.
11:56 asciilifeform exists, proverbially, to make his colleagues look 'moderate'
11:56 asciilifeform *kgb curator
11:57 asciilifeform thimbronion: 'history' is happening, but not in white house. there -- theatrical performances.
11:58 thimbronion Only point I disagree on is that script likely included war with Syria of Iran, but - somehow ended up on the cutting room floor.
12:00 asciilifeform dunfughet venezuela..
12:00 asciilifeform and indeed plenty of 'script on cutting room floor' in recent times, rather hilariously transparent to naked eye
12:08 asciilifeform !w poll
12:08 watchglass Polling 12 nodes...
12:08 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770 (Operator: asciilifeform)
12:08 watchglass 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770 (Operator: asciilifeform)
12:08 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
12:08 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.144s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
12:08 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.146s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639769
12:08 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.265s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=235865 (Operator: jurov)
12:08 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.229s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
12:08 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.397s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639770
12:08 watchglass 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.513s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639771
12:08 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.039s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=639771
12:08 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
12:08 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.)
12:10 feedbot http://thimbron.com/2020/07/july-search-update/ << Thimbron -- July Search Update
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17:21 asciilifeform hey whaack , tuned in ?
17:22 asciilifeform whaack: if yer looking for reference on the block format , can try mine . afaik it is complete (aside from scriptisms)
17:24 asciilifeform spyked when you get a chance, plz add whaack's www to the rss here, he has interesting proj.
17:29 asciilifeform whaack: comment in yer spam queue.
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18:38 whaack asciilifeform: approved and responded
18:38 asciilifeform ty
18:42 asciilifeform whaack: answrd
18:48 asciilifeform whaack: ask BingoBoingo re isps in CR, it is my understanding that he found several usable ones.
18:48 asciilifeform incl. at least 1 colo house.
18:49 BingoBoingo I am not unhappy with "Rack Nation"
18:49 asciilifeform whaack: if you really want a signed copy of trb db (with the understanding that it comes with 0 warranty) i'ma make 1 for you, lemme know.
18:52 asciilifeform whaack: if all you want is a very fast sync, simply bring up yer node with -connect 205.134.172.27 . almost same thing.
18:52 asciilifeform (be sure to restart it with the usual params once actually synced.)
18:59 whaack asciilifeform: would you consider that connect command "cheating" ?
19:04 whaack As per my response I just sent, I would like to both test a traditional sync process + get a speed boosted sync in a few places.
19:12 whaack asciilifeform: And thanks for the bitcoin data type reference, it seems to not mention whether those types are little or big endian, but maybe I need to take a closer look, I've just skimmed so far. Also ty for requesting my blog in your feed.
19:14 whaack asciilifeform: I'll hold off on requesting a tarball of blk data until I have aother box up somewhere, so as to make sure that speed-syncs are done in parallel with (as opposed to in-place-of) traditional syncs
19:20 Apocalyptic http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-17#1016427 << mats: what does that sub get you exactly ? Most ctfs these day publish the challenges on github, with docker containers so you can set them up easily on any machines if you want to practice
19:20 snsabot Logged on 2020-07-17 12:30:21 mats: 'hackthebox' is fun and only 10eur/mo, best sub money i've ever spent
19:24 Apocalyptic same goes for solutions and "walkthroughs", although if the set is really complete and goes quite a few years there might be some value to it
19:37 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-18#1016658 << meant 'cheat' in the sense where hypothetical 'from wild' sync not tested in the process, strictly. (it remains true however that ~all~ new trb users must know at least 1 working box, or cannot connect, recall)
19:37 snsabot Logged on 2020-07-18 18:59:31 whaack: asciilifeform: would you consider that connect command "cheating" ?
19:39 asciilifeform whaack: asnwerd
19:40 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-18#1016660 << 100% of what trb stores on disk is little-endian (or, rather, machine-local-endian) .
19:40 snsabot Logged on 2020-07-18 19:12:40 whaack: asciilifeform: And thanks for the bitcoin data type reference, it seems to not mention whether those types are little or big endian, but maybe I need to take a closer look, I've just skimmed so far. Also ty for requesting my blog in your feed.
19:41 asciilifeform in the block db, that is. ip addrs kept in the addr cache are big-endian (per unix tradition). (tho i dun expect these are relevant to your proggy)
19:42 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-18#1016661 << in principle, erry time somebody takes the trouble to do a 'from 0' sync, it is a 'health test' of the net. i.e. useful thing to do.
19:42 snsabot Logged on 2020-07-18 19:14:03 whaack: asciilifeform: I'll hold off on requesting a tarball of blk data until I have aother box up somewhere, so as to make sure that speed-syncs are done in parallel with (as opposed to in-place-of) traditional syncs
19:51 trinque I'm a little sad to see even more stuff being written in python.
19:51 trinque in other sads... "Some people find m4 to be fairly addictive. They first use m4 for simple problems, then take bigger and bigger challenges, learning how to write complex sets of m4 macros along the way. Once really addicted, users pursue writing of sophisticated m4 applications even to solve simple problems, devoting more time debugging their m4 scripts than doing real work. Beware that m4
19:52 trinque may be dangerous for the health of compulsive programmers."
19:52 asciilifeform trinque: 'at least aint perl'
19:52 asciilifeform (granted, this is rather like 'at least yer shooting morphine, and not heroin')
19:53 trinque perl's inextricable until somebody cuts off all the auto* bullshit from gcc
19:54 * trinque has returned to that mess, took a break
19:54 asciilifeform trinque: as for me, at finally picked back up docs for ffa ch21 , after lengthy break
19:55 asciilifeform trinque: since you mentioned script langs: considering, after ffa, to attempt a 'dethompsonizing' simple gc-less scheme in asm, in style of 'M' as a scripting lang. can't speak for erryone, but i've wanted a <32kB scripting lang that 'compiles with bare hands' for many yrs.
19:56 trinque this'd be a mighty fine thing.
19:57 trinque sits atop linux still yes?
19:58 asciilifeform historically it's been attempted before, but all the examples i know of made fundamental mistake (attempted to implement the reader in the proggy, rather than in the interp. bytecode. if you do the latter, whole thing is 100x simpler)
19:58 asciilifeform trinque: initially sit on linux. but no particular reason why would have to 4evah
19:59 asciilifeform trinque: for me, the big wake-up re 'there is NO reasonably clean script lang atm' was when wrote 'litmus' in what ( asciilifeform naively thought was ) pure 'sh'
19:59 asciilifeform ( turned out in only worx in bash , and possibly not even all vers of bash )
19:59 asciilifeform ... and there is NO native support for arrays in posix sh...
20:00 trinque shell script is a pretty heinous programming env anyway, legitimized only by precedent, as all interminable human idiocies are.
20:00 * trinque will be back shortly, has some ramen to collect
20:01 asciilifeform trinque: i'd dearly like to throw out the pythons, perls, sh atrocities, etc. in favour of sumthing that makes some semblance of sense (incl. when its binary thrown into objdump -D ... )
20:01 trinque meanwhile I've started another build of the spittoon, and have literally marked the root of the host as readonly to catch spit dribbles, which are apparently slooshing out despite the setting of DESTDIR.
20:02 asciilifeform trinque: interesting; dun hesitate to post the barfola
20:02 trinque brb
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22:35 asciilifeform thimbronion: (supposing you did not already know) yer crawler still loads 'robots.txt' 9000 times / site per crawl
22:36 asciilifeform ( still moar oddly, does it even when 404 )
22:37 * asciilifeform would offer to help find why, but thing seems to be written in a gnarly cobol..
~ 40 minutes ~
23:18 mats Apocalyptic: mostly convenience. its an accumulation - a web-based parrot instance (no need for docker/vm), 200+ labs+challenges+solutions in the same place, lots of AD labs i haven't seen anywhere else, gamification with a ranking system, jerb postings, automated cpe credit submission
23:21 mats well, you dont need to pay for ranking or the job listings, but anyway the integration is nice
23:22 mats for what amounts to the cost of one meal
23:30 thimbronion asciilifeform: I have it open. Will check it out now.
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