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09:09 feedbot http://thetarpit.org/2020/on-the-power-of-words << The Tar Pit -- On the power of words
09:09 feedbot http://mvdstandard.net/2020/07/seattle-dismantles-autonomous-zone-chazchop-invaded-by-police-catpuring-23-after-march-on-mayors-home/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Seattle Dismantles Autonomous Zone: CHAZ/CHOP Invaded By Police Catpuring 23 After March On Mayor's Home
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10:48 asciilifeform !w poll
10:48 watchglass Polling 12 nodes...
10:48 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
10:48 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
10:48 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637244
10:48 watchglass 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.158s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353 (Operator: asciilifeform)
10:48 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.161s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
10:48 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.282s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353 (Operator: asciilifeform)
10:48 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.232s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
10:48 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.230s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
10:48 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.339s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=189677 (Operator: jurov)
10:48 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.329s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637350
10:48 watchglass 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.339s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
10:48 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.545s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
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17:27 asciilifeform meanwhile, in idjit honeypots and their suckers, yet another one pops. ( archived )
17:27 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-24 12:58:47 asciilifeform: recall the demonstrative wank re ladar levison and his 'lavabit' etc.
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18:02 shinohai ^ can't read either of above linx :/
~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~
19:42 asciilifeform shinohai: copypasta
19:42 shinohai ty asciilifeform
19:42 asciilifeform np
19:50 shinohai lulzy "There's an app for that!" (tm)
19:59 asciilifeform shinohai: the morons' attempts at 'crypto' imho are quite reminiscent at '90s arab attempts to bake nuke (where they'd sell one another, and buy from usg provocateurs, 'mysterious artifacts' with cyrillic labels, + alchemical formulae to go with'em )
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20:02 asciilifeform aaand afaik this is at least the ~third~ well-publicized bust of similar snake oil vendor. (other 2 iirc were on qntra..)
20:02 asciilifeform and i expect will do 0 to discourage the 4th, n-th, n+1st.
20:05 asciilifeform entirely same as e.g. the tor idjits. 0 symptoms of learning from experience.
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20:27 gregorynyssa few programmers have had the courage to call out "never roll your own crypto" as propaganda.
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20:28 gregorynyssa but the FFA project is turning this into a reality. (=
~ 1 hours 38 minutes ~
22:07 asciilifeform gregorynyssa: the morons suffer from very different problem than 'no actual crypto avail.' consider, even ye olde gpg is galaxies ahead of the nonsense they were using (and PAYING! for.) but for'em may as well not existed.
22:09 asciilifeform may seem strange that professional criminals suffer from same disease as ameri-corporate 'culture', bureaucrats, etc. but it seems that they do -- will willingly prefer costly snake oil with veneer of 'luser-friendly' UI to anyffin that stands a chance of working.
22:13 asciilifeform neither ffa nor any other software will do idjit any good. esp. if he insists on stuffing it into a 'smart'pnoje-cum-nsa-os & similar.
22:15 asciilifeform nor is fitting into-head in any way optional or escapable.
22:17 asciilifeform this incidentally is why i regard jfw & co's proj. of 'sell trb kit to rich morons' as ill-conceived. ( if it were to succeed, will likely get the participants killed, moron will make inevitable coarse error of pilotage & blame the 'helper', whom else, mp types are biologically incapable of introspection and coming to terms with own intellectual limits in any other way )
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22:26 asciilifeform computing (and all fields peripheral to it) already suffers -- perhaps irrecoverably -- from the catastrophic effects of giving dimwit narcissists powerful tools and the illusion of understanding'em. rather like how earlier generation of literate folx gave same idiots the bomb.
~ 55 minutes ~
23:21 ben_vulpes buenos noches a tous
23:23 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: do you know "StJohn Piano" of edgecase.net?
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23:24 gregorynyssa asciilifeform: I guess some people find it hard to think abstractly, and need the GUI.
23:25 gregorynyssa asciilifeform: even the concept of the hierarchical filesystem goes slightly over the head of some users.
23:25 ben_vulpes pff ok buddy
23:25 ben_vulpes that it's not hierarchical, over others
23:26 gregorynyssa ben_vulpes: I liked the introductory article to V which you had written.
23:26 ben_vulpes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-28#1015442 << what has the scawwy mawwidge word have to do with either being boring or monogamous
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23:26 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-28 15:55:22 shinohai: Because life is too short for boring 'ol monogamy.
23:26 ben_vulpes merci, monsieur gregorynyssa
23:27 gregorynyssa the only VCS remotely similar to V is Fossil, which is written by Dr Richard Hipp, inventor of SQLite.
23:27 gregorynyssa both are based on transparent, well-documented file-formats.
23:28 gregorynyssa as opposed to being heavily implementation-defined, as with Git.
23:34 ben_vulpes well if the fellow comes around again, i'm leaving this here for 'im: http://cascadianhacker.com/rsi-is-a-lifestyle-problem
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23:34 ben_vulpes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-23#1015259 << this sounds amazing
23:34 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-23 17:33:47 adlai: incidentally, one of the most interesting conversations that I ever overheard was between two young israelis who were speaking modern hebrew with american ebonic inflection!
23:42 asciilifeform wb ben_vulpes
23:43 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-02#1015665 << he hung about in #t briefly, long ago
23:43 snsabot Logged on 2020-07-02 23:23:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you know "StJohn Piano" of edgecase.net?
23:43 ben_vulpes loha!
23:44 asciilifeform !q seen-anywhere stjohn_piano_2
23:44 snsabot stjohn_piano_2 last seen in #trilema on 2019-06-05 05:34:52: New article: http://edgecase.net/articles/the_value_of_software
23:45 ben_vulpes way the hell upstack asciilifeform i have 2 axes more or less wired up; i'm blocked on coming up with a good mechanism to connect the pan stage servo to the pan stage itself, but aside from that things are coming along rather swimmingly
23:46 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: funnily enuff, so happens that i've also been tuning cnc gear..
23:46 ben_vulpes bolted a "realsense" D435I to the tilt stage and wrote a pid controller last night, intended to plug the pid into error from facedetection today but mein herr the pianist trolled me into 3kw on ergonomics instead
23:48 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-02#1015677 << perhaps i'm one of very few folx who not suffers from this malady..
23:48 snsabot Logged on 2020-07-02 23:34:26 ben_vulpes: well if the fellow comes around again, i'm leaving this here for 'im: http://cascadianhacker.com/rsi-is-a-lifestyle-problem
23:48 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-18 16:43:55 asciilifeform: mats: it does seem to afflict folx who enter great heaps of text -- perhaps surprisingly, asciilifeform doesn't
23:48 ben_vulpes briefly looked at the pretrained "mobilenet ssd" and found that it's only trained on some 80 labels, one of which is "pottedplant", so i put it down and did something simpler.
23:48 ben_vulpes asciilifeform my problems only set in after i set 30 fence posts myself without a hydraulic drill
23:49 ben_vulpes all of my mistakes are all my own.
23:49 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what has you back on the mill?
23:49 asciilifeform laser, atm
23:50 ben_vulpes what'll you be lasing?
23:50 asciilifeform needed coupla flat acetal sheets ( rk+'eink' chasis )
23:52 asciilifeform fence posts ?! built fort in patagonia, ben_vulpes ?
23:52 ben_vulpes no, i'm a jew.
23:52 asciilifeform in gaza strip..?
23:52 ben_vulpes since when is being a skinflint about labor a strip activity
23:54 ben_vulpes !q help
23:54 snsabot ben_vulpes: my valid commands are: src, uptime, seen-anywhere, help, s, version, seen
23:54 * asciilifeform drove posts for garden w/ ordinary 10kg sledge , ladt time had occasion to , no hydraulics
23:54 ben_vulpes not even later? my we are living in trying times aren't we
23:54 ben_vulpes ;;later tell spyked http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug << neat stuff
23:55 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: we dun have the old luxuries, but folx do occasionally read log
23:55 ben_vulpes my dear asciilifeform these were 4x4s going into concrete and i demanded a 2/3 sub/surface ratio
23:56 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: the luxuries we had, nobody else has to this day
23:56 asciilifeform i thought one typically hammers it in, ~then~ pours concrete..
23:57 ben_vulpes first one must establish a hole for the concrete
23:57 ben_vulpes then lay a gravel bed, then pack the gravel (four feet down there), and only then can one rig the post and cast it
23:58 ben_vulpes there's no hammering a wood post 4 feet into the dirt, get out of herre
23:58 asciilifeform sounds moar like antitank hedgehog than what asciilifeform is accustomed to as 'fence'
23:59 ben_vulpes i have nfi what else you would do; metal stakes and hog wire panels?
23:59 ben_vulpes that's not a fence that's an eyesore
23:59 asciilifeform is what ~erryone has over here in east usa.
23:59 ben_vulpes and yes, that fence will stand until the pressure treat rots.
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