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09:07 feedbot http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug << The Tar Pit -- A cursory look at the infamous TRB "wedge" bug
~ 45 minutes ~
09:52 asciilifeform spyked: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-352
09:52 asciilifeform and s/DDOS/DOS
09:55 asciilifeform !w poll
09:55 watchglass Polling 11 nodes...
09:55 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.025s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635289 (Operator: asciilifeform)
09:55 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.084s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635288
09:55 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286
09:55 watchglass 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.116s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286 (Operator: asciilifeform)
09:55 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.171s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286
09:55 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.230s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635288
09:55 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.333s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635287
09:55 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.521s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635286
09:55 watchglass 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.764s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635289
09:55 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.400s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635289
09:55 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.488s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=635288
10:08 spyked asciilifeform, danke. fixed and answered: http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-353
10:14 asciilifeform spyked: ty. http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug#comment-354 answered.
10:19 asciilifeform spyked: in case wasn't obv., 'feeder' is a kludge. i wrote it strictly because the 'catch-up' problem were still open. it beats the shit outta having to restart 9000 times to resync.
10:21 asciilifeform it does, naturally, require having at least 2 nodes, 1 of which at the moment is keeping up w/ the net.
10:22 asciilifeform previously i had an even moar barbaric kludge, powered by dumpblock, eatblock, and sftp ! to do same job.
~ 3 hours 14 minutes ~
13:37 asciilifeform meanwhile, in the fishwrap, lulz 'a la qntra'.
13:43 shinohai LMAO "His final note, filled with anger toward Robinhood, says that he had “no clue” what he was doing. "
13:43 shinohai Don't hate on the platform you alone decided to use to "trade stonks".
13:44 asciilifeform shinohai: it's pretty lulzy, traditionally these shops had a 'pay tenbux per trade' biz model. loox like nao, instead, casino
13:44 asciilifeform where 'bet 1 $ , lose 1mil'
13:48 asciilifeform at e.g. vegas at least you can't lose moar than you walk in with ( and yes there are kiosks there where can mortgage yer house in 10min, etc. but gotta actually have one )
~ 30 minutes ~
14:18 dpb the article went on to say the kid wasn't actually in debt and it was an issue of being confused over the interface. The thing reads like an ad for the trading app veiled as a news story
14:20 asciilifeform dpb: entirely possible. i can't picture any stocks scamatron actually dumb enuff to extend $mil credit to rando penny-ante subscriber
~ 40 minutes ~
15:00 trinque sounds very much like someone looking for a reason to off himself
15:01 asciilifeform supposing even this element of story -- factual
~ 1 hours 34 minutes ~
16:36 thimbronion mandatory masks nao in kkkalifornia.
16:36 thimbronion got to get out of here
16:39 mats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddFI63dgpaI
16:39 mats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaylSdd4QyY also notable
16:40 asciilifeform lol mats for whom is this horror ? folx who lost hands in power saw accident ?
16:41 mats ...yes
16:41 asciilifeform i suppose beats arse joystick
16:42 * asciilifeform admits, never felt the slightest desire to control comp via voice grunts
16:42 mats theres a good chance you will someday
16:43 mats rsi doesnt discriminate
16:43 asciilifeform i guess if enuff time with saw
16:43 asciilifeform mats: it does seem to afflict folx who enter great heaps of text -- perhaps surprisingly, asciilifeform doesn't
16:44 mats ive interacted with talon users who dont have rsi at all
16:44 mats and others who are paralysed neck down
16:45 asciilifeform i met a fella who used 'dragon' (in 2010s, i had last seen it on warez in 1990s) , he had parkinson's disease
16:45 mats until talon i had completely given up on speech recognition tools, things like dragon were and still are garbage
16:46 asciilifeform mats: already lost yer hands, or practicing in advance ?
16:47 asciilifeform ( and -- can't resist to ask -- gonna learn braille also ? )
16:47 mats one hand has been lost since i turned 18, the other one is in an early intermediate stage
16:47 asciilifeform a
16:48 mats i briefly contemplated learning to type with my feet
16:48 asciilifeform ever tried e.g. these kbd ?
16:48 asciilifeform ^ variant of ye olde microwriter iirc
16:49 mats key chording is how i initially developed the injury
16:49 asciilifeform re feet -- asciilifeform has pedals for 'meta keys' but not attempted text entry via pedal
16:49 mats lots of vim and then custom key combinations for gaming
16:50 asciilifeform hm i thought vi/vim were all about avoiding chordage
16:50 asciilifeform (e.g. the dreaded 'emacs pinky' disease)
16:51 asciilifeform and afaik current theory re rsi disease is that only lateral movement of fingers/wrist contributes
16:51 asciilifeform so theoretically a purpose-made chorder would not
16:52 mats maybe
16:52 * asciilifeform not expert on subj. had early symptoms of wrist rot 20y ago but halted as soon as discovered proper spring kbds
16:58 thimbronion asciilifeform: the chorder I tried had ridiculously bad keys.
17:01 asciilifeform thimbronion: there are folx selling kits where you can solder yer favourite switches nao
17:01 asciilifeform for chorders
17:02 asciilifeform ( same fella even has cast iron variant so properly sits still. however, i haven't tried. found by chance via xah lee's www. )
17:02 thimbronion asciilifeform: wow cool. My hands seem to be in stasis with my current keyboard though.
17:03 asciilifeform thimbronion: i'm quite satisfied with my 'model f' circa '82.
17:03 snsabot Logged on 2020-05-10 23:12:50 asciilifeform: ( sadly can't buy'em anymoar, even heavily beaten ones. and mine i had to not only clean, but... paint, lol )
17:04 asciilifeform ( for thread-completeness, where to get controller board if you happen to come across this largely-extinct beast 1 day )
17:04 asciilifeform from above, pic of the particular item i use .
17:05 thimbronion asciilifeform: Have you tried a keyboard with a column stagger layout?
17:05 asciilifeform unlike the better-known 'model m', there's no rubber in these, nor rivets, 100% parts replaceable
17:05 thimbronion asciilifeform: I find with row stagger I need to contort my hands to fit.
17:06 asciilifeform thimbronion: have not. not sure what the point is ( plus they only seem to be available in heavily 'castrated' layouts, lacking not only 'left side f' but f keys in general )
17:06 asciilifeform imho if yer contorting, yer kbd is too small
17:06 thimbronion asciilifeform: was experiencing it on an 80s model m.
17:06 asciilifeform strange
17:08 * asciilifeform finds it odd that there's (afaik) no folx making custom-tailored kbd for individual measurements. when you get a suit, or prosthetic foot, or eyeglasses, it is ordinarily expected that it'll be cut to fit you. but for some odd reason not kbd.
17:08 asciilifeform it's rather like if erryone were expected to wear exactly the same shoes.
17:09 thimbronion hey well there are iphones of all sizes!
17:09 asciilifeform lol all 3 of'em or wat
17:09 thimbronion couple of different ipad sizes, maybe 3 different iphone sizes.
17:10 asciilifeform screen-drawn kbd ergonomic nightmare at any size
17:11 thimbronion indeed.
17:14 asciilifeform there's apparently a 'kbd customizing' subculture, but afaik 100% focused on cosmetic wankage ('lm-themed keycaps!111' etc). cuz actual shape customization requires cutting metal, i suppose
17:14 shinohai Best "modern" mechanical kbd I've found so far was unknown brand I found called "Redragon" ... been using the thing for 2 yrs now, handily cleans up in dishwasher nicely.
17:16 asciilifeform shinohai: i've thrown out, with disgust, erry 'modern' type bought so far -- they all eventually develop 'bounce' (contacts fatigue.) and none have left-side function keys, which i actually use, to avoid contortions
17:18 shinohai Yeah this one is "compact" and has no fn keys on side, but does sit atop the lappy keyboard just fine. (HP has a horrid keyboard on lappys)
~ 1 hours 14 minutes ~
18:32 asciilifeform shinohai: per asciilifeform's lights, if a kbd won't stop a .22 round (at least), then flimsy rubbish
18:33 asciilifeform e.g. 'model f', has ~6mm of steep b/w yer fingers and the desk.
18:33 asciilifeform *steel
18:34 asciilifeform 2 plates (1 holds the pistons, the other, 'anvil', is backstop )
18:34 shinohai https://www.amazon.com/Qwerkywriter-Typewriter-Inspired-Mechanical-Wireless/dp/B01KM6EJOY
18:34 asciilifeform ugh why
18:35 shinohai nfi
18:35 asciilifeform is exactly the kind of thing i was speaking of earlier
18:35 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-18 17:14:28 asciilifeform: there's apparently a 'kbd customizing' subculture, but afaik 100% focused on cosmetic wankage ('lm-themed keycaps!111' etc). cuz actual shape customization requires cutting metal, i suppose
18:36 asciilifeform homo redditus and his detritus.
18:39 shinohai https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/about-us <<< in case anyone present doesn't know what homo redditus and "muh diversity" looks like in a keyboard "company".
18:39 asciilifeform ugh 'can't unsee'
18:40 shinohai kek
18:43 asciilifeform for historical lulz, asciilifeform's 1st kbd. (museum photo, not actual unit.) was nifty thing, magnetic reed switches, ~eternal
18:44 asciilifeform sadly, sovok never invented 'clicky' springs
18:45 asciilifeform still beat the shit outta current-day konsoomer junk, imho
18:45 asciilifeform item could be used as a blunt weapon and still function..
18:46 asciilifeform the little red button actually toggled rst line on cpu.
18:46 asciilifeform pretty handy in msdos.
18:47 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform's brother introduced it to him as 'the any key' )
~ 31 minutes ~
19:18 feedbot http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-06-18 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Ellision Targeting toki pona
~ 1 hours 20 minutes ~
20:39 BingoBoingo http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014951 << Their mice and keyboards are sold at Tienda Inglesa of all places while noone's webcams are.
20:39 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-18 17:14:50 shinohai: Best "modern" mechanical kbd I've found so far was unknown brand I found called "Redragon" ... been using the thing for 2 yrs now, handily cleans up in dishwasher nicely.
20:40 BingoBoingo This not the make of the keyboard with mysterious entire left side failure.
20:48 shinohai I have had 0 problems with it so far, the last chinesium I ordered lasted maybe 6 months.
20:52 feedbot http://mvdstandard.net/2020/06/new-york-city-92-year-old-woman-attacked-by-31-year-old-male-registered-sex-offender-with-more-than-100-lifetime-arrests-atlanta-police-get-blue-flu-after-officer-charged-for-shooting-armed-suspect/ << The Montevideo Standard -- New York City: 92 Year Old Woman Attacked By 31 Year Old Male Registered Sex Offender With More Than 100 Lifetime Arrests; Atlanta Police Get Blue Flu After Officer Charged F
21:02 BingoBoingo Being displayed for sale at Tienda Inglesa isn't necessarily a damnation. Very good things and very awful things are sold there side by side. Does suggest the brand isn't entirely unknown.
21:12 shinohai I think it's an item more known amongst the pc-gamer populace. I bought simply for size and has backlit keys to make typing @ night much easier.
21:12 shinohai (Lappy also has backlit keyboard, but I hate chiclet keys)
21:22 asciilifeform verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014974 << in fact in 2007 (iirc) i wrote a lisp elizatron for toki pona. (sadly, lost in sands of time. not that much of a loss..)
21:22 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-18 19:18:51 feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-06-18 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Ellision Targeting toki pona
21:22 * asciilifeform hasn't had much truck w/ conlangs since
21:23 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014975 << y'know BingoBoingo , if you need irons from north ameristan, asciilifeform's magick iron teleportation service still inbiz
21:23 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-18 20:39:49 BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014951 << Their mice and keyboards are sold at Tienda Inglesa of all places while noone's webcams are.
21:26 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-18#1014977 << lol iirc this happened while i was there
21:26 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-18 20:40:47 BingoBoingo: This not the make of the keyboard with mysterious entire left side failure.
21:27 * asciilifeform wondered if in fact argentinian kbd
21:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not long ago had occasion to glue w/ cyanoacrylate, wondered 'wtf, came off right away' then looked -- argentinian tube. must've been from 1 of the expeditions to BingoBoingostan..
~ 1 hours 20 minutes ~
22:48 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Set on iron for a while.
22:48 * BingoBoingo has since found German cyanoacrylate here
22:49 BingoBoingo "UHU"
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