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00:14 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Devuan's been around a while. http://qntra.net/2015/02/gpg-criticism-reaches-new-low-as-use-cases-expand/
00:14 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: 10 miles is the single day tourism distance to beat
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01:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: pretty sure we did >10 last time
01:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I suspect we indeed beat 10, but we did so with greater looping through the feria which makes map reconciliation harder
01:24 BingoBoingo Due to time constrains we however "cheated" and took a taxi from Pocitos to the far end of the feria which simplifies things a bit
01:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: enjoyed visit of jfw? ( and is he still there ? maybe i can catch him also..? )
01:26 * asciilifeform to appear on friday
01:26 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It was indeed enjoyable. He's leaving early tomorrow, so we did a greatly compressed tour of the city
01:27 asciilifeform aa was in hurry
01:27 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Indeed, and the Mirador was closed despite posting extended hours now that the rennovation was done.
01:28 BingoBoingo So to see the old city and get a view of the ancient fort across the bay we had to hoof it.
01:28 * asciilifeform will leave on tues. 17 in wee hours
01:28 BingoBoingo On the plus side we saw the bulk on the Navy's actual ships in port.
01:29 asciilifeform neato
01:29 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Thing about ways to destroy the incredibly sturdy new RK drives without building a fire where It'll get the wrong sort of attention
01:30 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: microwave
01:30 BingoBoingo I actually never acquired one here
01:30 asciilifeform a
01:31 asciilifeform did any rk people actually req cremation ?
01:31 asciilifeform i thought it was by-req. strictly
01:31 BingoBoingo No one specifically requested, but it seems some sorta physical destruction of the drives is the ethical thing to do.
01:33 asciilifeform nuffin short of thermite ( or lengthy exercise w/ bandsaw ) i suspect will eat those.
01:33 asciilifeform i assume yer thinking of the ones with iron shell
01:34 BingoBoingo Those ones indeed. It might be possible to pop the electronic part out through the USB opening. I'll give that a try.
01:35 asciilifeform if you've a drill an' a vise, can also that
01:35 BingoBoingo That's probably cheaper than the microwave
01:35 asciilifeform vise alone, if good one, will do..
01:36 asciilifeform or anvil/sledge.
01:36 asciilifeform use what's at hand.
01:39 BingoBoingo The metal's actually rather soft on these. Went to pry the chip out and the flathead screwdriver instead made a cutting tear.
01:40 asciilifeform suggests hammer time
01:41 BingoBoingo Pliers got the chip out. tiny little thing.
01:43 BingoBoingo Surprisinly no epoxy or glue in the construction. Small plastic spring/wedge is all that secure the working part to the shell
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02:04 Vexual one handed sledge that powers from the shoulder rather than over is known as "lump" hammer to me
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02:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It'll be substantially warmer than the last time you were here. Pack that bathing suit https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-semana-comenzara
02:23 BingoBoingo https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-semana-comenzara-con-calor-y-sin-precipitaciones-segun-Inumet-uc738053
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02:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: asciilifeform has globe, so knew -- and already packed..
02:50 asciilifeform 3d of time on the ground imho oughta suffice to pack machines and then r&r
02:51 asciilifeform (4d, but i expect to sleep most of fri.)
02:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Packing will take an afternoon, maximum
02:52 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: is that vz chix there ?
02:53 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: She arrived back in town last week. Her girlfriend took the week off. Met up with the Friday.
02:54 asciilifeform neato.
02:54 asciilifeform re packing, i expect will be quick, i'm bringing the same rotten rags the boxen orig. went in.
02:55 BingoBoingo If you have any weight left after packing machines, the recommended shelf stable item to take out is the local olive oil
02:57 asciilifeform noted. i expect will have weight remain
02:57 BingoBoingo Anyways, do let me know if there is anything you want me to put together into a care basket to drop off at the hotel.
02:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i'ma hit that flea market even.
02:58 BingoBoingo I wouldn't expect anything less.
02:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: need anyffin from gringolandia ? i have gigatonne of slack weight in usa->uy dir..
02:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you want sumthing bought in usa an' ferried over, gpggram asciilifeform , we can make arrangement.
03:00 asciilifeform feels like a waste to only carry rotting old blankets, lol
03:00 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Aite, I'll put together a short list of things unavailable here.
03:00 asciilifeform cool
03:01 BingoBoingo Won't be a long list, but there are a couple things unavailable here that a Walmart will have
03:01 asciilifeform lulazon part #s also ok
03:02 asciilifeform ( i've a permanent next-day-shitting subscr. there )
03:03 BingoBoingo Aite
03:05 BingoBoingo jfw did leave the 48 port switch here for being too heavy.
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15:35 danielpbarron nothing to back up, i messed it up right off the bat and then got too busy to ask about it
15:35 danielpbarron suppose i need to sign a message to confirm this though
15:48 danielpbarron asciilifeform, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=3IuI
15:52 asciilifeform danielpbarron: got it! and will be done today.
15:58 shinohai ./ticker btc usd
15:58 btcinfobot Current BTC price in USD: 7425.52
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19:09 BingoBoingo_ http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=SwwQ << asciilifeform the nice things to have list.
19:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: got it.
19:11 BingoBoingo tyvm
19:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: para. 1 & 2 items ordered (arrive tomorrow) , para 3 will req. going to town, will do in coming days
19:16 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: A+++
19:16 asciilifeform np
19:22 asciilifeform btw very interesting list. i had nfi these were scarce in BingoBoingostan.
19:24 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: They are indeed. The where and what of supply chains running thin is an odd thing.
19:25 BingoBoingo I've managed to find some nearly civilized sunglasses that do block the UV, but... Just not a big fan of the tint or build quality on them
19:27 BingoBoingo Hard for the locals to know that thing's they have never had are missing.
19:29 BingoBoingo Also https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Operativo-realizado-en-Kibon-para-prevenir-incidentes-se-repetira-hasta-fin-de-ano-uc738087
19:29 BingoBoingo You too will have the chance to view incredibly energetic helicopter spotlight dancing
19:32 asciilifeform still lively eh
19:33 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: No arrests, rather muted crowd when I walked by. Just derpy helicopter and other acessories making an effort to be seen.
19:33 BingoBoingo The amount of time the helicopter spent with the spotlight on the water seemed to me a signal that they weren't at that time actually looking at or for anyone in particular.
19:35 asciilifeform around here choppers also used quite similarly ( i.e. loiter around and make noise, presumably as 'fanfare for the majesty of the inca' somehow.. )
19:36 BingoBoingo I got hit with the spotlight a couple times. Numerous apartments got hit with the spotlight. Kept its altitude lower than the tops of the WTC towers, except when nearing the towers.
19:37 asciilifeform i live near a place they use as fuel station, it was annoying at 1st but naodays sleep through it. sorta like when i lived by the railroad, 40m from the track. 1st coupla wks was annoying, then after properly bolted down shelves, etc. stopped noticing.
19:39 BingoBoingo It took me a bit to get used to this barrio being where airplanes start to get rather low on their approach to the airport, but no longer a particular bother.
19:39 asciilifeform re choppers -- at uni there was an antique wreckage (from 'nam' ? nfi) , liked to climb inside, controls sorta worked. but never had occasion to ride in a working one
19:43 * asciilifeform off to the dc to repair danielpbarron's unit
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21:28 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/12/one-week-after-grave-vulnerability-revealed-wireguard-moving-into-linux-kernel-for-5-6/ << Qntra -- One Week After Grave Vulnerability Revealed, WireGuard Moving Into Linux Kernel For 5.6
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21:49 asciilifeform danielpbarron: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=BA8h and plz confirm.
21:50 asciilifeform jurov: i sent back your elbowed keyboard coin from earlier today , via deedbot pm, plz confirm .
21:50 snsabot (trilema) 2019-12-09 deedbot: jurov paid asciilifeform 1
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22:09 danielpbarron asciilifeform, ack
22:12 danielpbarron so can I use emerge to install stuff as long as i don't sync?
22:24 asciilifeform danielpbarron: correct
22:25 asciilifeform danielpbarron: the mirrors presently in make.conf for the most part still work. ( and you can of course build proggies from source in the traditional way, bypassing gentoo's collection when need )
22:25 asciilifeform when the cuntoo folx birth a reasonably-complete kit, i'ma port it to rk and offer as option. until then, this.
22:27 asciilifeform danielpbarron: the reason why must NOT 'emerge --sync' is that gentoo's upstream went full-bore tard in late '17. if you sync, 'emerge' simply becomes paperweight, as no longer accepts the systemdism-ban flags
22:30 danielpbarron i noticed
22:32 asciilifeform this situation already was in place at the time of pilot plant at piz, so i assumed danielpbarron knew. for future rk users will include in setup instructions tho.
22:33 danielpbarron i didn't have a rk on pizarro so never used emerge
22:33 asciilifeform hm for some reason i was certain danielpbarron at one pt had rk
22:34 asciilifeform but yes, can use emerge, and lemme know if need vintage tars at any point.
22:35 asciilifeform iirc for mp's wp in particular, need manually-built mysql ( BingoBoingo , diana_coman , lobbes , published material on this subj )
22:43 danielpbarron trying to install vim, i get this failure http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=7JTa
22:48 asciilifeform danielpbarron: the usual thing to do in cases like this, is, e.g. ls /usr/portage/app-editors/vim and see what older vers. there were, and then e.g. emerge =app-editors/vim-8.0.1298 rather than emerge vim
22:48 asciilifeform ( alternatively can track down the orig. tarball somewhere on the net , but this can be difficult )
22:49 asciilifeform ( when found a tarball manually, drop it into /usr/portage/distfiles and retry the emerge )
22:50 asciilifeform this is what life is like with 'frozen in amber' vintage gentoos. ( not only on rk )
22:52 danielpbarron ok
22:54 * asciilifeform never discovered this particular breakage because, must admit, never used 'vim'. but currently reproducing it, for to find workaround for other folx, supposing danielpbarron not finds 1st.
22:56 shinohai I use vim, but always build manually because emerge doesn't enable configure options you need for slimv.
22:58 asciilifeform shinohai: can plz share your recipe for danielpbarron ?
23:01 * asciilifeform testing workaround (made via above algo) atm
23:02 asciilifeform danielpbarron: emerge =ctags-20161028; emerge vim
23:03 shinohai Is pretty simple, I do: http://btc.info.gf/paste/aec7af@raw
23:04 shinohai (then `make && sudo make install` of course)
23:06 * asciilifeform found that errything he personally uses on rk builds w/out gymnastics like this; but naturally impossible to guarantee for whole known universe of shitware. fwiw ^above worx for vim. ( and shinohai's method prolly also worx. )
23:06 * asciilifeform tested, vim built thusly runs.
23:06 * asciilifeform bbl:meat
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