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10:42 d4 verisimilitude:
10:42 d4 Reading it just now reminds me of
10:50 d4 And in case you missed,
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15:25 asciilifeform wb d4
15:27 asciilifeform d4: at one time asciilifeform counted himself as 'fan' of r.gabriel, but in recent yrs not so much, imho fella drifted off into vagueness
15:27 d4 asciilifeform: thanks. Still messing with internal network, docs and website. Wish to squash @/patterns/ into @/d4/, but first I have to move the services to another host I'm setting up.
15:28 * asciilifeform also for many yrs guilty of similar, wrote 'over9000' articles with one thesis, 'it *is* possible to write correct software'; but imho *demonstration* is worth over9000 such articles
15:29 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
15:29 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $51556.63
15:29 asciilifeform !w poll
15:29 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
15:29 watchglass : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998 (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:29 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.082s) V=70001 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.136s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr= Blocks=715998 (Operator: whaack)
15:29 watchglass : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : Alive: (0.245s) V=70001 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.260s) V=88888 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998
15:29 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.305s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925
15:30 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.326s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715925
15:30 watchglass : ( Alive: (0.179s) V=99999 (/ Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=715998
15:30 watchglass : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: asciilifeform)
15:31 watchglass : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
15:31 d4 asciilifeform: Do you mean the essay ``The Rise of Worse is Better''? I think everything if taken to an extreme will fail. When you look at `the right thing' without an objective you will always procrastinate looking for making it perfect.
15:32 asciilifeform d4: speaking of his subsequent works.
15:34 d4 I see
15:40 d4 Skimming a bit looks like he's looking for something philosophical that there isn't.
~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~
16:44 asciilifeform d4: r.gabriel followed the same trajectory as erry other fella who 'went philosophical' in the sense where he decides that he's 'above' actually writing programs.
16:47 asciilifeform d4: observe how the current lolcats have a rather useful word, 'based', i.e. 'reality-based'. well, if you stop actually programming, rather soon will no longer have with what to be 'based', and float off like a discarded birthday balloon into bloviation.
16:51 asciilifeform adding to this, recall that r.gabriel was 1 of the sad folx who personally participated in killing -- and feasting on the corpse of -- the golden age lispm world, then went on to write kilometers of lament re its demise.
16:53 asciilifeform ( and possibly seems to be cognizant of being 'has been', 'I used to be Dick Gabriel. Those days are long gone. Now I’m just Dick Gabriel.' )
16:57 asciilifeform dunno whether makes sense to say that there is a 'gorbachev of lisp', but if there were, r.gabriel is pretty good, imho, candidate for the role. 'shoe fits'.
16:58 asciilifeform (e.g. erann gatt is another.)
16:58 dulapbot (trilema) 2015-04-10 asciilifeform: eers seemed to work reasonably well there. It's just not a business model in which I wish to be involved, at least not on the component-provider side. So after a year at Google I quit and returned to JPL.' << the once well-known erann gatt, aka ron garrett.
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17:24 d4 Mhh
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17:51 whaack howdy all
17:51 asciilifeform wb whaack !
17:54 whaack ty asciilifeform!
17:55 shinohai o/ whaack
17:56 whaack hola shinohai
17:56 shinohai k tal de bueno?
17:57 whaack been on a surf trip, my life in CR has pretty much been one long surf trip, so i guess this was a surf trip within a surf trip
17:58 shinohai winter here so hafta travel to have any fun
18:00 whaack did you travel?
18:00 whaack idk where you are but is snow surfing not an option?
18:01 shinohai we were thinking of driving out to colorado to ski again, we went there the wnter mp was on the grand europe tour
18:03 * whaack misses skiing himself
18:03 whaack i'm considering going to europe and hitting up some wavepools
18:03 whaack i'm a little bored of ruralandia but also can't fathom giving up surfing
18:06 * asciilifeform admits, not been surfing, has only dim idea of how it's done
18:06 asciilifeform maybe if lives long enuff, will try..
18:09 asciilifeform whaack: how about your hands? still suffering from emacs wrist?
18:10 whaack yup, although i've gotten over the depression ohmygodicantdoanything bit
18:10 whaack i'm taking collagen supplements daily, using new keyboards, paying attention to my posture, and just living with mild pain not worrying about impending doom
18:11 whaack and i'd say the pain has reduced a bit, i hardly notice it while surfing anymore
18:12 whaack re surfing, of course you're welcome to free lessons anytime you visit cr, the tricky bit is timing and paddling around , doding other surfers, the balance part is easy
18:12 whaack dodging*
18:12 asciilifeform whaack: consider to try thimbron's prototype of 'pest', then, shouldn't require much in the way of keyboarding
18:14 whaack asciilifeform: will do, trying to ressurect my trbexplorer first
18:14 asciilifeform a, neato
18:14 whaack the irc interface, that is, block explorer is still running on
18:15 * asciilifeform aiming to post new rev. of protocol spec some time b/w nao & newyear
18:16 * asciilifeform doesn't anticipate major changes, but there's a lengthy list of minor fixes/refinements, and imho needs examples and diagrams to be truly edible
18:16 * asciilifeform in search of a decent text-driven diagram shitter, if not finds one may use latex
18:17 whaack do you have an eta for when dulapnet is replaced by blatta / pest?
18:18 asciilifeform whaack: i expect to keep dulapnet going in parallel, in near term
18:18 asciilifeform !q uptime
18:18 dulapbot asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 194d 14h 8m
18:18 asciilifeform at least until there are several 100% mature pestrons
18:19 asciilifeform (for sumthing as precarious as a 1-box irc net, dulapnet has worked surprisingly well. but it is rather unsuitable for long-term use, e.g. can't exactly announce isp outages on it, given as it lives in the rack)
18:21 asciilifeform when there's a 100% stable pestnet, will bridge dulapnet's #a to it, i expect.
18:23 * asciilifeform has been contemplating various long-term potentials of pestnet.
18:23 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-28 19:37:11 asciilifeform: signpost: somewhat apropos, thought of your lubytron in context of possible pheature: pestron takes a local dir and 'hosts'. peers (and optionally broader pestnet members, e.g. l2/l3) can visit e.g. http://localhost:8000/signpost and see his 'www'.
18:24 * asciilifeform sees pest, in 'big picture', as a generalization of the wot, rather than simply replacement for ircism.
~ 30 minutes ~
18:55 whaack !e help
18:55 trbexplorer whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, version, help, view-address, view-balance, view-raw-block, view-block, view-height, view-merkle-root, view-txn, view-utxos, view-raw-txn, verify-block, push
18:55 whaack !e view-height
18:55 trbexplorer block_height: 716011
18:57 whaack !e verify-block 716011
18:57 trbexplorer transactions hash to merkle and block header hashes to block hash for block 716011
19:01 whaack !e view-block 716011
19:01 trbexplorer height: 716011
19:01 trbexplorer size: 829618
19:01 trbexplorer version: 536895488
19:01 trbexplorer prev_hash: 0000000000000000000611707f2d54788c5f03be075dde6ac0f3d1fa1f57c8ca
19:01 trbexplorer hash: 00000000000000000006bd263b2b801b8546abf879bb3d964272ab3531e2735d
19:01 trbexplorer merkle_root: 5116d58b9fb12e975b142ef939776e5605fb74ef41a0a883cf113526b4c36677
19:01 trbexplorer timestamp: 1640629244
19:01 trbexplorer target: 386635947
19:01 trbexplorer nonce: 3553272722
19:01 trbexplorer num_txns: 2291
19:03 asciilifeform neato
19:03 whaack now to get a blatta node working
19:11 asciilifeform whaack: lemme know when you have one built, i'll pgp you a peering key for my station
19:11 asciilifeform (dunno if thimbronion is around atm)
19:12 thimbronion asciilifeform: here
19:12 asciilifeform shinohai and billymg are on pesttestnet currently
19:12 asciilifeform a neato
19:12 asciilifeform wb thimbronion
19:12 thimbronion asciilifeform: ty.
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19:43 signpost howdy whaack; I published a keyboard doodad recently that's been helping me with my own laptopism.
19:44 * signpost uses the thinkpad middle-click as most-used modifier key now
19:44 signpost iirc your issue was wrists though (which sounds like hand angle), whereas mine was just pulverizing left pinky and ring
19:45 asciilifeform wb signpost
19:45 asciilifeform 'emacs pinky'(tm)(r)
19:45 signpost trufax
19:45 * signpost will also stand up another blatta today, farting around the house with the plague
19:46 whaack thimbronion: do you have a location where all the blatta vpatches are hosted or do i need to get them 1by1 on your blog?
19:47 whaack signpost: thank you, i got a foot pedal for my main machine, but when i'm using other laptops i may use your script
20:01 thimbronion whaack:
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20:37 signpost 3
20:37 signpost aw crap
20:38 signpost (being the number that shall be counted)
20:39 signpost << 100%, communication is not separable from relationship/reputation
20:39 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-27 13:16:35 asciilifeform: sees pest, in 'big picture', as a generalization of the wot, rather than simply replacement for ircism.
20:44 whaack thimbronion: ty
~ 2 hours 41 minutes ~
23:25 signpost << what was the mistake? I have this error message also
23:25 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-29 15:59:19 billymg: thimbronion: i'm trying to run 9987, started the same way as before and went to connect in weechat, received this after trying `/join #pest`: irc: cannot create nick "" for channel "#pest"
23:25 signpost (next time say in logs, lol!)
23:26 * signpost probably an idjit and it's right under my nose
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